911 Morphing VicSim Report

[Salsuscanis]

WOW gee you got it there. DO me a favor look up a few people that died in the planes, go contact their family, sit down and do a interview with them and then show them this bullshit. I wonder if they will make a youtube video of you being hung by your balls will being beaten like a Piñata. I would love to see that video

[euro944t]

@Salsuscanis

When you guys locate the 911 plane victims next of kin, be sure to remind them that they have $1,000,000 in unclaimed compensation checks from airlines and gov't. Maybe they will give you a cut ?

Oh and don't forget to locate the Wallstreet put options stock traders banking on fall of United Airlines and WTC insurance stocks (Unclaimed also)

[euro944t]

@Salsuscanis

Blackopradio has the single victim family member who was paid, she curiously wanted to reach out to other members and make sure they got compensated for the lost love ones, long story short she has NOT found any, NOT even a long lost cousin, neighboor.

She started the rumor and it has grown because these names & faces on the flights are mysteries to us all.

Proving 1% of the passengers were real just adds to the mystery, especially if the 1% you find started the mystery.

[Salsuscanis]

@euro944t LOL what?

[euro944t]

@Salsuscanis

Why aren't the families of dead picking up the big bucks SSID checks passed out by joo Feinberg and his joo wife ?

"JINSA joos have seiged the Pentagram"-Colon's Bowell 2004

shalom

[Salsuscanis]

@euro944t fucking retard no one can pick up ssi checks after death

[chunkyboy100]

fuck me now simon shack is an infiltrator??? thats just about everyone then,

how do we know shack aint 4 real and 11september2009 aint the insider?

[Dirkzero1]

2:21 Tom Hanks!!!

[nameofthepen]

List of many of my heroes @ 4:56.

[nameofthepen]

@KimmoKuopio - I have great admiration for people like you who speak more than one language.

I also realize that there are often misunderstandings which occur in ANY interchange between two people, even when they are speaking in their native language.

So, I'm sure you will forgive me if I am skeptical that Simon Shack ever said such a thing.

Could you please show me where I can see/hear that for myself?

[KimmoKuopio]

Yes,

Go to simonshack's Channel

Channel Comments (478)

On the bottom click number 5 then 7, 9 and 10

simonshack (3 months ago)

no victims at all on Sebtember11, 2009

There are also vids about it...

/watch?v=fQyYlCokhog

/watch?v=farzLddbc-Q

[nameofthepen]

@KimmoKuopio - Thank you, found it. But you did misquote him slightly:

simonshack (3 months ago)

"...and most likely no victims at all [,,,]"

"most likely" is what he said.

I trust SS 1,000% more than I do the media. I might just have to suck it up and wade through that Vicsim Report someday. :-p

Meanwhile, keep in mind that surprised, frightened "witnesses" are easily tricked into believing the most absurd things:

watch?v=_KGPzsLm62k

Let's all pray for a REAL investigation, OK? :-)

[nameofthepen]

@Kimmo - that's fine. I believe that most good people (like you and me) are simply trying to do the best they can in life.

I am happy to agree to disagree, if that is OK with you.

And BTW, taxpayer money is everyone's money. Including those you call "hippies". Therefore, I think it should be used to benefit everyone by finding the truth once and for all.

Don't you? :-)

[nameofthepen]

@Kimmo - Our conversation here caused me to spend much of today finally reading the VicSim Report.

And I suddenly realized that somewhere, somehow, sometime, I had subconsciously accepted someone's statement that the stairwell doors inside the WTC's were locked, trapping all the people inside, dooming them to death in the collapse.

Well, that makes NO sense to me at all now. So, if it is not true, then that changes everything, doesn't it?

[nameofthepen]

@Kimmo - and now Kimmie, I have a question for you, please.

This is a very underrated and ignored video. (640 views). Not much going on. Before today, no one had commented for the last month.

You and I had already been and gone 2 months ago.

So...what brought YOU swooping over here, out of the blue, to MY old comment after all that time?

[11September2009]

Kimmie,

The investigation was not financed by hippies or tax payers money. This is the investigation. It proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that no airplanes and therefore no plane victims occurred on 911. The civilians who chose not to accept public passivity and propelled the knowledge about the real nature of the attacks into such high standards are indeed suited with the classification of heroes.

Were you looking for Mark Humphrey revisited?

[11September2009]

Kimma,

The importance of televised sports is to incute oppugnancy into objective events, so that the masses function according to that principle. It´s your hobby: The "It wasn´t fault - my club is better than yours" type of ideology.

For money or fame? Only the one you have donated in my name.

[nameofthepen]

@Kimmo - OK, thank you, that makes sense.

And I didn't intend to antagonize you by using the "affectionate" version of your name - quite the opposite. :-)

And, yes, I accepted a long time ago that I was not the brightest bulb on the string, and never would be.

But I try my best to be at least an honest idiot.

[nameofthepen]

@Kimmo - Yes. One more thing we agree upon.  :-)

[rhonieme]

@nameofthepen Mu brother died 4 years ago, my dad died 7 years ago, and my uncle died 11 years ago...and none of them are in the SSDI so simon fails in stating that the victims were not in the SSDI is misleading because it has been proven to be a farce the majority of the time.

[nameofthepen]

@rhonieme - you posted on "September Clues - Busted! U-Tube version" /watch?v=B6jS2Ah22us :

"they ...place their bunk on You Tube ...the conspiracy theorists wet dream come true spot....then go to different postings (usually under several accounts) ....if they really believed this crap they would be out there in real life and not behind a screen yelling it out..I even invited one to my show and they declined."

That's a bit of pot-kettle-black, don't you think? BTW, what "show" do you run?

[sxmadrid]

Btw; 301 hits (Oct 12, 09)

[sxmadrid]

They're not wrong. They lied.

[notitbros]

Cool vid. Makes scary sense when you show the Vicsim Report's findings in action.

I think 911movement forum was destroyed because this and the MITRE Corporation thread were getting close to the core truth of 9/11

[simonshack]

To read the full VicSim Report, please go to :

septembercluesDOTinfo

To follow the in-depth discussion about the 9/11 VicSim research, please go to :

911movementDOTorg

and search for the VicSim Report thread

[notitbros]

vicsim had something like 14,000 views in 25 days, and your thread was at 54,000 when 911movement went down.

[mindfreak419666]

Are you claiming there were no victims on 911?

[11September2009]

Nowhere near 3000.

[01psd]

I have seen some fucked up theories, but damn if that dint take the cake. Its a damn shame you cant vote -10 stars. Fucking no planers.

[11September2009]

That is actually quite rewarding.

The wicked common sense that builds up this corrupt society, should exude that type of reaction when exposed to real facts.

[KimmoKuopio]

:o

1S2

Why u removed simonshack's comment?

And my comment?

[11September2009]

I did not.

[KimmoKuopio]

:o

Ha ha

Ghost, I think ghosts stole it

[11September2009]

It is not the first time I have seen comments disappear and other type of abnormalities here on youtube.

This video itself is based on information retrieved from Simon Shack´s web site who I very much respect.

The comment was: "Perfect. 5 stars".

I would never take that out.

[JLaw012]

What "real facts" do you have exactly? if 9/11 was an "inside job" then please show me the Evidence of ONE PERSON from the government who you can Prove was "in on it", please support your claims....

[11September2009]

One person only?

Can it be the president himself?

Bush lied about his movements on the morning of 911, inventing a story that he was already at the school when the first WTC strike happened. Bush also claimed that he'd seen the first crash live on TV at the school and had thought it was an accident. This is also a lie because the first strike was never broadcast live.

My question to you is: Why would he have to lie?

/watch?v=BUXglJU2w6U&feature=r­elated

[JLaw012]

Bush was at the school, remember when he was told the Second plane was hit? he was in the class room. there was not a lot of time between the first and second plane, so if he was not already at the school he was at the very least on the way, so who cares?? Either way this is NOT evidence someone was "in on it". How would lying about this mean he was in on the plot? does not make sense.

[11September2009]

How could the govt claim to have been completely taken by surprise, if it somehow had no trouble in naming the alleged perpetrator - Bin Laden - within hours, and immediately threatened to invade Afghanistan?

Don´t you smell a rat?

[JLaw012]

You should watch all the research by National Geographic into this very subject, to make a long story really short, they knew it was bin laden because he and al-quada were behind most of the attacks on the US since the early 90's when he declared war in the US on a taped interview with al-jezzera. They also knew Al-Quada was planning an attack they just did not know when or how.

Also They saw the passenger list and airport security videos of the Arab males and had intel on some of them.

[11September2009]

Where is the airport security footage of any of the 19 ? How did they (allegedly)

get on board with knives, guns, and electronic guidance systems, while

being searched, but somehow avoiding security cameras and not being on the passenger lists?

It has become a common myth that Bin Laden has admitted to the attacks.

Bin laden's supposed confession is based entirely upon a video tape

released by the Pentagon. The tape is a fake,and the translation is fraudulent.

[JLaw012]

You can find the footage, online. I have it in court documents used in the Zaccurus Musssauwi trial. What the hell are you talking about Guns? Knives? Try Box Cutters which were allowed pre-9/11.

There has been over 60 tapes of al-quada members talking about the plotting of 9/11 most of them are from mid-eastern news stations NOT faked, not only that Zaccurus Mussawi and Kalid S Muhammad openly admitted to it in court while defending themselves.

[11September2009]

One of the many oddities of 911 was the report that Daniel Lewin, a passenger on flight 11, was shot with a gun by one of the hijackers.

The tape issue is a major blunder. If we know for a fact that the ones by 911 "mastermind" and "leader" Bin Laden are fake, how come there are over 60 other genuine al qaeda tapes?

Bib Laden did not admit, and in fact said the attacks were anti islamic.

watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0&feature=re­lated

[JLaw012]

Did you not read my last post, Zacuraaus Mussawi and kalid s Muhammad admitted it in open court while defending themselves, one of your videos VS dozens of mine plus court room testimony means shit.

[11September2009]

That was new advanced by Reuters.

Need I say more? Ok.

Do you have any evidence that KSM was not an actor or that the trial actually took place?

Even if he was the legitimate suspect, there is clear evidence that the US armed forces have made extensive and systematic use of psychological and physical torture.

That completely invalidates his confession in any honest court room in the world.

[JLaw012]

Oh let me guess Reuters is "in on it", does not matter anyway because i have the official court documents, if you want me to send them to you let me know.

I have no reason to belive KSM is an actor, it is YOU that has to prove he IS an actor, he is innocent until PROVEN guilty. So unless you have evidence to suggest he is an actor then you assumptions are meaningless.

Also, KSM admitted to this in court while defending himself and not under duress so it his confession is legit.

[sxmadrid]

JLaw, confessions still need to be backed up by a case, else they're worth nothing. I'd like to know exactly what he's admitting to, how he destroyed the Towers, faked TV images of aeroplanes hitting buidlings, brought down WTC7... Also query your term 'open'; there's little open about KSM's legal process.

[JLaw012]

The confessions ARE backed up, in fact i have the entire Mussauwi trial which has evidence from A-Z documented along with photos and video and expert testimonies from the VA court. i will send it to you...

[sxmadrid]

JLaw, Thanks for the trial notes. I retract the statement that the trial was not 'open'. Either way, I dont have time to go wading thru hours of stuff connecting a lone nut to a bunch that remain to be convicted of a crime which patently never took place. If its war with the world you want, you got it ,kid. But if youre interested in the who did what and how of 9/11, youll have to stop trusting the people who brought you the impossible story and continue to bad-mouth its opposition.

[JLaw012]

Lone nut? he was not alone, and he was not the only guy that was convicted Kalid Sheik Muhammad also pleaded guilty in court and Wanted the death sentence they openly talk about the plotting of 9/11 along with that are over 60 video/audio tapes of interviews with al-quada members from al-jeezera TV in the mid east where they talk about plotting 9/11. i see their words and their actions it is reality it has nothing to do with trust...

[sxmadrid]

Zac M was barmy (perhaps due to mal treatment but who knows or cares) confessing and unconfessing by the hour, and KSM was beaten to shit for years and fessed to over 30 crimes some of which couldn't have had anything to do with him since he was in US custody at the times. What is audio/visual evidence worth from government when they faked the damned planes for christ's sakes?

[JLaw012]

OMG, are you a fucking No Planer?? hahha i am wasting my time, you guys are the biggest fucking idiots in the world. Seriously...

[mindfreak419666]

No brainers is what i call em..

[sxmadrid]

Is it? Is it really, darling? That's marvellous Sweety. Really marvellous.

[11September2009]

Stay cool, stupid. You are losing control

The laws of physics are worth more than the offical story. Believing in planes that travel at impossible speeds, do impossible stunts and crash impossibly, just because that is the established panorama is the strongest type of betrayal to your Godgiven faculties

The incapacity to equate the massive holes in the official story, with climate of crisis propelled through the media, also denotes how limited and cartoonish your perception of the world is

[JLaw012]

You don't know shit about airplanes then, i love it when you guys go to the old "physics" routine but never explain what law was broken and how. Typical, you guys talk out of your asses.

[11September2009]

Every single law:

"For every action there is an equal an opposite reaction."

911 airplanes did not suffer any reaction from the towers = Impossible

Google Newton.

[lmfecher]

I know a great deal about aircraft. I worked on them for six years. Airliners are hollow aluminum tubes. The fuselage, wings and tail sections are all hollow. If airliners did hit the towers, we would see an IMPACT. Instead we see the airliners fully PENETRATE the towers and THEN explode. This violates Newton's Third Law. No planes were used on 9/11.

[sxmadrid]

Yip. Some bunch convinced the world that planes had struck buildings in downtown NY in broad daylight when they had not. Producing the vicsim list seems easy in comparison. Its breathtaking, I admit. It beats the cleverest of my friends and colleagues (here at the asylum), and even the most respected have deteriorated as you have into smug or outraged incredulity; though have so far stopped short of name-calling.

[AvonBarksdale101]

Jlaw why do you try so hard and go out of your way to prove something that is clearly a sick hoax is not? You must be a gov worker.

[sxmadrid]

Nat Geo is in bed with Fox, the people who brought you the laughably faked 'live' shot of a charcoal plane going right through the building, and then buried the footage. You're mad to trust either brand name on political matters these days unless it's high octane propaganda you're looking for.

[JLaw012]

You're talking out of your ass, guess who else researched the conspiracies and found no truth in the conspiracy claims...MIT,Purdue U,Columbia U,PBS,History Channel,Popular Mechanics,American Architecture,Civil Engineer weekly,Scientific American,Implosion World Demolitions Etc...

Science has spoken..

[sxmadrid]

Beware politicians and soldiers in white coats.

[01psd]

I been waiting for 8 years for truthers to show me the "facts" of a inside job, they have failed to show me anything as proof.

[11September2009]

19 arabs with box cutters?

Then how come 7 of them were found alive?

Robert Mueller, Director of the FBI, has twice been forced to admit on CNN that there is "no legal proof to prove the identities of the suicidal hijackers".

[01psd]

There was confusion about the list that the boston globe and others got. the confusion came from the highjackers using varied spellings of their names for activites.

[11September2009]

If they are alleged to have been using non- Arabic aliases (19 obviously

Arabic men got on board using non-Arabic ID, with 100% success rate ? ), why did the FBI claim that they were traced through the use of credit cards to buy tickets and rent cars in their own names? By what means were the false

IDs traced so quickly to their real IDs ? Why, 8 years later is their

no confirmation of which names they are alleged to have actually used?

[blueshadow1996]

Thats odd. Why were ther victims and real family members? Real planes and true heroes givning up their lives? Also real truthers trying to create confussion.? Would this post even be posted?

[11September2009]

There were no real planes, and most possibly nowhere near 3000 victims.

[blueshadow1996]

Really? No first responders.Now world reaction. I dont exist?

[Denierbud11]

and you say this with no basis other than your delusions

tell us again how truthers are doing this for the victims, to gain them justice

[The911Conspiritard]

I wish you were one of the vicitms on 9-11. That way you can save of form your retarded nonsense. and save the world form your useless carbon footprint.

[11September2009]

911 was a catalyst. The true consequences are not yet fully expressed.

We are the victims.

[Denierbud11]

This is an insult to those that died on 9/11

shame on twoofers

[11September2009]

Au contraire.

[simonshack]

Perfect. 5 stars.