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  • but where is part 2

    i am dying to watch it

  • Read Krishna's Vedic teachings ;Srimad Bhagavatam and Bhagavad-gita by Srila Prabhupda. Infinite is explained.The material world is 1/4 infinite and the spirit world is 3/4 infinite. Vedic cosmology is mindblowing and fits in with quantum physics sofar. When you understand youe own consciousness you understand eternal time, nature,soul and God.

  • watch nithyananda videos on eNMiracle - A Living Legend - Avatar

    in nithyanandam ma advait

  • AMAZING DOCUMENTARY!

  • Talking so slow.

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  • @derrenbrown100

    Have you got a copy of Everything and Nothing - Nothing that you could upload?

    My video recorder broke down half way through !$£&^*%£

  • ok, does anybody else see the mendelbrodt picture in the light of 21:55?

  • good documentary

  • 4 thick chavvies didn't like this, they thought everyone on it had "swallowed a dictionary or summink!"

  • @merjobrothers Ah ha ha, i know complicated mechanism of everything

  • I love the style of Al-Khalili. He's good. I feel I can't grasp everything at once (it's OK; Rome wasn't built in a day, neither was this documentary), yet it's... it's... it's obvious we, knowing few things, know a lot and yet... it's like only small steps and just some beginning... or we're closer to the end now? I dunno... it's questioning everything you know...

  • AWE expresses nothing of the feeling I get, gazing starward, knowing this gleams there - and everywhere!

  • Is this sxpantion happenning inside an atom too? Is the space beatween Particles of an atom expanding also?

    Why not?

  • Number of stars is more than all sands of the world orall sands of the Earth?

    We should say the sands of the Earth, for every star has plannets and every planet can have sands.

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  • May you upload the 2nd part- Nothing, please? It is really a fascinating scientific film.

  • Absolutely perfect! bravo well done truly well done

  • amazing. downloading part two

    

  • where's part 2? =(

  • Awesome 2 parter, but...

    Where's part 2? - Nothing.

  • If all space is expanding - is the space in the quantum world also expanding? i.e. does that mean I'm going to put on more weight? Drat...

  • @SASNIGHTCRAWLER A lot of scientist are religious or were once. It was Edwin Hubble who was brought up a Christian that discovered the universe was expanding and we have had no proof otherwise to say he was incorrect. I have rarely read a book by a credible scientist (depending on his chosen subject i.e Richard Dawkins) state that god doesn't exist. Our drive to look for the answers come from our constant curiosity to look up and wonder what is out there...

  • Ok, turns out they do credit their tracks... silly me. For anyone who wants to know any of the pieces used on both parts one and two, here's the link. Scroll to the bottom of the page : bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00yb59m

  • This looks interesting! Thanks.

  • I believe our universe came from the Big Bang - but where did the Big Bang come from? If God created the universe - what created God? These are questions NO ONE can answer. Existence itself is illogical, it's a paradox. If the whole of existence is finite and had some beginning - what caused it to begin if there was NOTHING prior? Equally, if existence is infinite - how can you accurately define something as always was, is, & will be? How did it start in the first place? None of it makes sense.

  • There was no 'big bang' - just an expansion from a primordial and infinitesimal speck whose origin our current intelligence is not mature enough to comprehend yet. The same applies to the microcosm of the sub-atomic world where we are barred from delving further because of the uncertain principles of quantum physics. You are meant - if you like - to not understand it. It is beyond anyone's intellect at the moment - microcosm or macrocosm.

  • There was no 'big bang' - just an expansion from a primordial infinitesimal speck whose origin our current intelligence can’t comprehend yet. Same applies to the microcosm of the sub-atomic world where we are barred from delving further because of the uncertain principles of quantum physics. You are meant - to not understand it. Microcosm or macrocosm.

  • where can i find part 2?

  • What is the universe expanding in? Is the universe (Fabric of space and time) expanding in nothing?

    Every expansion needs a place for expansion. What is the place that the fabric of space and time is expanding in called? What is that place made of?

    Can we say that: the fabric of space and time is expanding in nothing? Or can we say: It is expanding in itself?

    would you please help me for an answer?.

  • @apspacking As far as I understand physicists ideas on this question; from the moment of the Big Bang (before which there was nothing, literally NOTHING, including no 'space' ) space itself began expanding as it continues to expand today, taking all the stars, planets and 'stuff'' it may contain ( dark matter, dark energy etc) along for the ride. It seems that space is not expanding INTO anything; it is itself swelling and so space is getting bigger.

  • @apspacking It all comes down to the sub-atomic world. The space between the atom and its electron hosts in what we perceive as empty space are expanding, while an unknown force is keeping what we perceive as matter - together. So the stars and planets remain the same size - but the space between them gets bigger.

  • @SASNIGHTCRAWLER See what I mean? Scientists do not cause global warming (if it exists); there are not enough of them. But we get the blame. And even that subject is distorted by ignorant media-people. Global warming, as first pointed out by Svente Arrhenius, is essential: we could not survive at our distance from the Sun without it. The real threat is RUNAWAY global warming, which could turn us into another Venus.

  • @SASNIGHTCRAWLER Scientists have power only within their own laboratories. They often control billion-dollar equipment while being badly paid (in comparison with those in other professions). Their advice is sought by governments but, as far as I know, there is not a single MP who holds a science degree. Nevertheless, scientists somehow get blamed for all sorts of things. These are often things that the general public would not even know about if scientists did not tell them.

  • @SASNIGHTCRAWLER thanks for understanding. The sad part is that to this very day we are still fighting the fight of Copernicus and Tycho when we do not have to. There is a BIG difference between believing in God and believing in religion. A religion is a set of man made rules manipulated from the teachings of a philosopher ages ago. The belief in God is the belief in an all prevailing source of energy from which all things came and to which all things will return to.

  • @SASNIGHTCRAWLER science is a belief ye? like not playing football is a hobby perhaps? and being unemployed is a job too? please, I'd like tot see this limitation that we have, every year things get discovered and we push ourselves further. All the things in the universe work in a particular way, so we should be able to understand it , as long as we keep trying to.

  • The scientist and the theologist. The atheist and the believer. Every single video on physics is filled with commentary debates by two factions with closed up minds that refuse to acknowledge or at least be opened to the other. Is it just for once not possible that both are right? That there is an entity that encompasses the entire universe that works on the principles of physics and quantum mechanics to create and maintain all that we have today? Just try to consider it before discrediting

  • @tgkessler No, there cannot be any common ground .... by definition. The only 'value' of religion is that it is the fastest means of brainwashing an uneducated society. Would you become a suicide bomber for the sake of E = mc^2? No. Would you become one on the promise of 72 virgins in paradise? Lots of idiots do so. An otherwise secular nation like the USA then has to pay lip-service to religion so as not to alienate its reservoir of jarhead cannon-fodder from the 'bible-belt'. Ironic, eh?

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  • Sorry to be a pain in the bum, but I have to ask again: what's the music at 31:40 ? If anyone knows, please tell me... why don't the BBC credit the music they use??? Thanks all!

  • There is one thing I don't understand and I wonder if someone can help me. He talked about why it gets dark night and the reason for that is the light of stars that has reached us. I don't understand :/

  • @sibzter The reason why the night sky isnt full of stars shining from all directions is because light did not reached us from all the universe.

    This means our universe isnt stable (eternal), it grows which means it has an age and this means it has a start/beginning (Big Bang).

  • @sibzter If light was instantaneous - i.e. if there was no such thing as the speed of light - the sky would be gloriously very bright forever (there would be no night!). It may seem that light has no speed to you as you switch on your flashlight - but it actually takes time for the light to come out of your flashlight and hit the deck - too fast for you to notice.But, over great distances it takes a long time. We are still waiting to see the light from stars that were born a long time ago.

  • does anybody have the details for the music played from 42:22 - 43:40? Thanks

  • The problem is that this sort of programme is not about science, but about scientism. That is, viewers are invited to gasp in awe at what is known, but are not taught exactly why scientists prefer one theory over another. Because the audience then has no critical faculty of its own, it is wide open to deceit practised by cranks who present their crazy ideas using the same televisual tricks and style.

  • i hate it when moronic (sometimes religious) youtubers think their stupid views and ideas are more reasoned then theories debated by some of the most educated and experienced men on the planet....

  • @TheRacketBoss i couldn't agree more

  • fuck... anyone else feel small?

  • the answer is..... 42 !

  • WTF MY MAC JUST REFRESHED THE PAGE WHILE I WAS WATCHING! W T F

  • Can anyone please tell what the piece of music is at 3.42?

  • @skyflynite It's by "Harmonic 33" and the piece is called "marionette"

  • @1empathy Thank you so much, you're a diamond!

  • @skyflynite No worries. Check out their other stuff on youtube (if you haven't already). They are real space nuts and their music is so evocative. No wonder they get used in tv and film like this.

  • are they implying a galaxy could move faster than light?

    I mean how could that be possible.

    also

    I thought lightspeed was the same relevant to anything no matter how fast it goes.

    doesn't that mean that galaxies wont dissapear out of sight? I could be wrong.

  • @xXSkullsawXx No they do not implying that a galaxy can move faster than light! You are correct - nothing can move faster than light. However, General Relativity allows for space itself expand faster than the speed of light. When we say that galaxies are moving away from us, we mean that it is the space expanding between galaxies. I hope that helps a little.

  • Also the scary thought for me, is that if we can only view far away objects in deep space as they were in the past (because it takes awhile for light to get to us) will we ever be able to reach anything before it has already long expanded and left?

  • @godly04 Why is that scary? The Sun and Moon are also never where they appear to be.

  • Dayum those TEEF

  • Wow. I hope that the intelligent life on earth in the future would watch this.

  • Anyone know the song at 3.46 ?

    

  • Bad teeth. 19:39

  • @jmitterii2 - This is science, not a beauty pageant.

  • @goldie0800 But didn't science invent dentistry? And did I ever say bad teeth weren't beautiful? Okay, I'm being really silly, but it was a distraction LOL! I know personally family members who have just as bad of teeth.

  • @jmitterii2 - Ok, you're forgiven, dearie. ... ;- )

  • Wow this is incredible!

  • 3 dislikes, guarantee you they were 3 Americans, most likely from the south or mid-west

  • :)

  • Seriously? Being a human is so embarrassing... How dumb? Continuing to ask the most ridiculous questions, then come up with more ridiculous answers!? Look inwards, look outwards, all infinite and only limited by the level of technology available in that moment of time... And then what? As before you were born, you cease to exist (die), and it ALL disappears... There are no truths in a universe where ANYTHING is possible... Chill out & enjoy the ride as none of it matter anyway :)...

  • @sambawomen you talk like a sociopath. Admitting life is meaningless is the first step to leading a meaningless life. Should we sit down and cease to create new frontiers of reason then?

  • @BrandonFound As a child, there was no meaning 2 anything; the purpose of life was simply life. As we grow into adults life is not enough, we need to give it reason or meaning. The most beautiful thing about life is the unconditional love & passion life has for itself. If u feel adding the condition of meaning 2 life 2 justify or judge the worth of "lives", then u may b missing the unjustifiable beauty of life itself? Live 4 1min & u did wht u came to do, u experienced life, what more do u need?

  • @sambawomen as a child, alot of things dont make sense. kids are stupid. thats why they need parents or else they would die.

  • @quaiddd Satisfying the bodies instinctual needs has nothing 2 do with making sense, the body is made up of infinite living organisms, & left un-programmed will find a way to sustain itself; a mother does not teach a baby 2 suck, she just provides the breast, the babies body has it's own desires regardless off any teaching. Adults only teach the unoriginal meanings taught 2 them by others; language is just sound & we assign a meaning 2 that sound, all just programming nothing 2 do with survival

  • @quaiddd Also the meaning we apply to that sound (that which we call "language") has nothing to do with intelligence or truth... A tree is only a tree because we were programmed to call it "a tree", to an Italian it is "un albero", to a bird it is a place to build a nest, and to another tree it is nothing but itself ... Where is the truth in language? Where is our self proclaimed human intelligence? Man built a plane because he wanted 2 fly, the birds did not as they could fly already...

  • @sambawomen I completely agree, but I guess there is this sense of need for meaning, the best thing to do is to simply ignore it and reinforce your appreciation for what we already have.

  • 2 people have never seen the stars thru a telescope...sad.

  • @TheDevilMightJustCry it's 3 now :P

  • Two English literature majors disliked this.

  • 12:03 this guy has a black hole in his mouth xD

  • Well things are only static in relation to something else (that's what relativity is all about), but simply; our galaxy is static. It is the space itself expanding, not that the galaxies are moving away...although of course, that is the result of the expansion.

  • i dont understand the last part of this program where proff says that we would not see other galaxies as universie is expanding? Is our galaxy static? its also moving along with other galaxies so if galaxy A moves away our galaxy will follow it?

  • @Faraz70 My last comment was in reply to you

  • everything created by nothing

  • religion and religious people have no place in a modern society. I for one don't take religious people serious with their uneducated views because people that have them tend to be simply incapable of reason and should not be allowed to discuss their fairytales in a place where reason and scientific research is being conducted.

  • @oegaboega r u mad?

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  • @oegaboega - Ah, so you are in favor of censorship! Even among those who agree with you regarding the importance of reason and logic are many who understand that what you propose would also hinder the progress of scintific knowledge itself. Why disallow others their views, opinions, and beliefs; you are not threatened nor hindered in your own by theirs.

  • @Jefferdaughter I think in a perfect world this would work but unfortunately I have to agree with oegaboega. I personally work with two religious people a Muslim and a Christian (one that actually goes to church) and unfortunately they just are completely unable to listen to any arguments that they cant see happening in front of there eyes, I.e. evolution and the 'Big bang'. And as soon as you say thing about our evolution from apes they call you bigoted and start arguments... just not worth it

  • @oegaboega I IN ALL CAPS RAGE COMPLETELY AGREE WITH U SIR !! XD

  • @oegaboega "are" being conducted

  • The CREATOR is GREAT

  • @Jgchris1981 The religious dont have a leg to stand on anymore!! The internet has destroyed their belief system I didn't know what to believe ,before the internet cause I've been surrounded by NARROW-MINDED morons in the bible belt my whole life.I did the Pascal's wager thing,BUT the internet opened my eye's. I realize the closest thing we have to a god at this point is Darwin!! He's given us the best explanation to date.(outdated,but brilliant).Darwin is GOD and the internet is his sword!

  • @MrAmericanzombie If you research you'll find that Darwins inspiration for the "evolution theory" given to him by the devil (father of lies/deception/manipulation)..­..It's tough in a world ruled by the devil. Science is real so is magic and God is Creator of all things.  When Satan fell he gave knowledge that was only designated for spiritual beings to humans...Here check firmament-theresolve . com. If you love the TRUTH you'll find it but if you give up it will always be out of reach

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  • love this guy 

  • pshh... the mysteries of the universe are lame. Only track & field is interesting.

  • why was there sound during the super- nova at the start?.. there is no sound in space .. sounds needs oxygen to travel through so i dont get it!

  • @illuminatisos for the purpose of the movie they put sound in it. and sounds need something except vakuum to travel not just oxygen.

  • @illuminatisos

    Wrong. Sound needs ears. Listen ! Thank God you've got a brain :-))

  • could it be gravity itself pushing everything away ?

  • hahahaha the british discovered everything...just ask them

  • @2ndhandjoke But Herschel was German, Galileo was Italian, Shirazi was Persian and there was a lot of astronomical knowledge from India and China.

  • The history of science reads as the history of self-refutation. That is a fact.

  • I NEED SOMEONE TO TRANSLATE THIS TO SPANISH, FOR MY TEENAYERS STUDENTS IN MEXICO, PLEASE!

  • I love how this was filmed and the speaker does a brilliant job. I would love to see a lot more videos like this with the same guy. I learned a lot.

  • I find that anyone who has their view of scicne and the so call scientific method challenged are equally stuck. Ironically.

    Science is/has been used as a political tool of mind control as much as religion. Yes there is truth in it....but then.

  • What's the song at 53:22?

  • @tylerzak7 it's justin bieber i think

  • It means that the amount of space light has to traverse is increasing, not that it's doing so ftl.

  • Funny how those with a religious bent tend to be utterly intolerant towards any view other than their own. Oh, hold on, no it's not.

    If you aren't even able to consider the possibility that you are wrong in your belief, why bother watching anything other than self affirming religious videos.

    Leave the untold wonders of the universe to those willing to consider them.

  • doesnt this mean that space is expanding faster than the speed of light?

    how is that possible

  • This music and visuals of this video reminds me of 2001 A Space Odyssey

  • 41:00

    this has absolutely enlightened me

    now i understand what it means that gravity is an effect of space curvature

  • @tcorp Too right!

  • Experiment:

    - Spin a ferromagnetic super-fluid in a strong toroid vortex enclosure.

    Wrap the enclosure with a 6 or 9 fold symmetry copper wire with a 150 Kilowatt inducted voltage. Frictional heat generation will need to be countered with nitrogen cooling.

    Now build a second disc to rotate the vortex magnetic liquid in the opposite direction. Spin both enclosures in the opposite direction to the electrical current.

    If you understand how a gyroscope works, you will understand what you've built.

  • @bloodstone1445 can i do this at home?

  • @huntinhumans @huntinhumans You can make ferromagnetic liquid by mixing printer toner and vegetable oil,

    but it will be far too viscous to be spin at high speed without causing extreme frictional heat.

    Chemical: mercury-thallium-barium-calciu­m-strontium-copper-oxide [Hg12Ti3Ba39Ca30Sr?Cu450125 will fit the bill, it's a cuprate-peroskite material and can be cooled to 138 kalvin at 1psi

    You will need an industrial chemist to make this for you. Luckily liquid nitrozen cools to 77 Kelvin.

  • "Science is interesting and if you don't agree, you can ƑƯĊĶ ŎƑƑ."

  • Using religions as a means to discribe who we are and where we came from is both ignorant and illogical. When i watch programs like this, or read books to answer questions for myself, i find it simply illuminating, because what is and should be held in the highest regard is truth, provable measurable truth. But more and more nowadays this kind of evidence is not enough for some members of the human race, perhaps there is a kind of regression going on, WHAT SAY YOU?

  • thx

  • One thing I still don't understand. We know that earth contain living things, Our solar system contain planets, milky way contain countless of stars/solar system, universe contain countless of galaxy. So, what contain the universe? What is holding the universe? Why is it dark? Is it because something is covering the universe?

  • @xiaoquan if you'd watched the whole thing, you'd know.

  • @xiaoquan yeah! You need to watch the documentary, and listen!! He actually tells you that!!

  • amazing that it took 200yrs to understand why the sky at the night is dark.

  • Shivers

  • The conclusions reached in the film are arrived at using the Scientific Method. Most technology (including the internet and computers) is also arrived at in this way. If you don't want to at least fairly consider conclusions arrived at using the Scientific Method then you should forfeit the right to use anything else invented that way. You can't cherry pick. Go back to living in caves and let the rest of the rational human race evolve and get the hell off this planet....

  • I dig this documentary, that is the truth. That is a fact.

  • Why are so many imbeciles watching this? If you do not believe in science, or have a great enmity for it (pssst...that means hate), why watch it? Is it just like talk radio? Yet another thing for people with the intellect of a houseplant to listen to, go around pissed about it, and, of course, inform the world of their views ad nauseum, which, no one except the remainder of full-stop morons like yourself care to read.

  • @painxtreme shut the fuck up you fucking fuck, don't try and portray yourself like better than anyone else you FUCK

  • @astupidnick It's plain that there is zero need for anyone to have your inferiority portrayed to them. Between your spot-on screen name, and your inability to add anything coherent to the conversation, aside from fitting 4 fuck words into a 19 word post, it is plain to anyone that you are butthurt because my remark hit a little too close to home for you.

  • @painxtreme Stuck up morons like you always miss the point and judge the book by it's cover. You replied just as I anticipated, nothing new there. Maybe I'm more intelligent than you and maybe I'm not. Only a retard would start take higher ground over the internet and assume he's more intelligent than someone else. An obvious difference between you and me though seem to be that I'm able to see beyond the superficial and read between the lines. Now fuck off you fucking fuck, you bore me.

  • @astupidnick Cool, leave. Read between the lines? Which ones? Is it buried somewhere in "shut up you fucking fuck"? Though I do not care one way or another about you, don't call yourself a retard, that's just beating yourself up for no reason. When an idiot speaks on something I know very well, and they know little to nothing about it, yes, I am very confident I know more. Why did you post to me anyway, since I never addressed you? Do you just automatically turn when someone says imbecile?

  • @painxtreme You're an idiot, plain and simple. It is now proven and once again I would like to remind you to fuck off you fucking fuck.

  • @astupidnick God, you're clever, I guess I don't have the creativity and breadth of vocabulary as you. Id never thought of fuck you, you fucking fuck, it is almost a miracle, it would be a real miracle if you could create a sentence, only using fuck. I bet you can, I believe in you. I am comfortable in the fact that the written history documented here reveals the imbecile, idiot, moron, apoplectic waste of air, that is you.

    Another thing, I'll go when I decide, Savvy? You impertinent Child.

  • @painxtreme I see that you're also a whiny fuck.

  • @astupidnick You have nothing. Nothing of substance or interest to add. It was funny for a little while, but just go. Enjoy YouTube, and leave it. You say nothing new, just enjoy the videos you like, leave it,& move on...It's that easy. I'm not responding to you again, so if you will die without having the last line of fuck you's and such, have at it, hoss. It's a waste of keystrokes for you, since I wont even be back to read it. Now you can get into a new argument to keep it new & fresh.

  • @painxtreme Stop whining so much you fucking fuck.

  • @astupidnick HA HA HA HA HA, you just never have any new material do you. What are you? Carrot top? You reply as everyone anticipates by now. Its all understandable, children love repetition.

  • @painxtreme

    full-stop morons, LMFAO, I find it difficult to respirate from laughing.

  • holy crap austin powers is in this documentary!

  • Our neurons aren't flying apart at thousands of miles per second! :)

    There's a very good reason why things resemble each other: they all are formations operating under the same laws.

  • @TheSpearthrower Good poin! However, based on some of the comments I see posted, it seems that some people's neurons are flying apart!

  • It's amazing how the structure of our entire Universe resembles the structure of our brain! Every large local cluster of galaxies resembles neurons... Maybe it's far more to this structure than we see and know...

  • no one who posts there meaningless opinions on you tube has any right to think they are intelligent ,sorry guys make your own documentary with all your" facts " an incontrovertible evidence so then more time can be spent by other viewers telling you your wrong.. look there are no whole truths only half truths deal with it

  • @007shanntytown I was waiting for one of them to say "fuckin magnets, how does they work?:" Miracles guys, its all miracles. They are my vote for the Thickest Duo of the Week...and it's only Monday.

  • Loving your BBC uploads mate. Are you going to get part two of this programme - 'Nothing' - uploaded soon?

  • why doesnt the famous professor get his toofers fixed

  • Scientists....they always point out that it was `once` thought to be like this or that...until some scientists changed that thought to some other this or that....but they always insist....just as those others `once` did, that they now have the answer. The answer is that science is theory, never fact.....and this present day theory is beyond any doubt as much bullshit as all past...and all future theories.

  • @gillsimo Lol im sure there is some truth to the world. Keep looking.

  • @gillsimo and that's why because scientists are always wrong you have the computer on which you are writing this "bullshit"

  • @TheLicznik science-the pursuit of knowledge not knowledge itself & it's only truth 2 numpty's such as you until it's proven wrong...& history clearly shows it always is in time. This nonsense is thrown at us as truth, scientists always push their propaganda as such...more fool you if you fall for it. Truth is it's desperation 'cos they can't find the truth. As for my PC? The ability to construct & wire millions of v fast on/off switches that interact with each is technology...logic not truth.

  • @gillsimo how can one take theories as the truth?Some theories have been proven by practical use in real life (GPS and different time flowing here and there because of gravity) some have been proven wrong. You belive that you know the truth about that what I or sb else are thinking and apparently"it's only truth 2 numpty's such as you" Sorry but this movie is only interesting for me like books or dreams sometimes inspiring but really I didn't take it as the truth.

  • @gillsimo besides" Technology is the making, usage and knowledge of tools, techniques, crafts, systems or methods of organization in order to solve a problem or serve some purpose. " first you have to create the tools without theories and science you don't have them

  • @TheLicznik you ignorant retard. the computer, the most advanced object the common person owns, is ran primarily by physics and mathematical theories.

  • @gillsimo Your ignorance astounds me. You have no idea how science work or how scientists think. I've never heard of a scientist who claims we now have the answer. Just because you don't understand something, and you don't, it doesn't make it wrong. Your ignorance isn't proof of your god or evidence against science. Don't bother bringing your religious garbage to an intellectual forum.

  • @gillsimo 400 years ago, most people would think that the earth was flat. Today science has a theory saying that earth is spherical. Yes, it is a theory, because observations say that it is spherical, but i have only seen it in television, so actual i dont know for sure!! Do you still believe that this could be proven wrong in the future?