Dating Outside the Subculture (Request)

[svennbreng]

You look lovely just the way you are mistress.

[TheHorrordivas]

stop make videos please you'r UGLY !

[toolerloot]

@TheHorrordivas hate her or love her, yeah i think this girl is way to focused on being goth then just being goth and personally i dont get the whole wear a costume and pounds of make up to be who you are thing, but dont call her ugly man...your being an arse, comment on her goth thing or her dating thing but she didnt put a video up on being ugly or not so why comment on that.

[Oromotiti]

wat is dis

[homicidalturkeysub]

I hate when people(ex. grandparents, teachers) say thankyou for not wearing black to a certain event.

this is my face the entire time theyre talking.

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[CosplayersFantasy]

@homicidalturkeysub i hate it to. its super annoying.

[DragonArrow2776]

I personally date a metal head and we love each other very much. He understands my gothic interests and hobbies. He enjoys my dark outfits and humor. It just goes to show that you don't have to date other goths. If someone really loves you they will love you even if you have a fondness for the macabre side of things.

[JeffnDenmark]

I guess if I was Herman Munster I would date you....

[thesmithfamily99]

WILL U MARRY ME 

[JayJenocideTM]

4:03 ahhh my phone LOL:3

[PickledYoshi]

wtf is this

[AspergirlSithstress]

I used to dress up Goth on purpose in middle school because I had a boyfriend who considered himself Emo and Metalhead. But it didn't work out with him anyway (what middle school relationships do??) and I started to realise that I just think darkness is beautiful, and that's probably partly why i was attracted to him.

[immacookielover]

I have that comforter >:)

I was goth when I was younger. I enjoy your video very very much :)

[kaputtohrring]

I've almoste only dated people that are not goths, but i really would like to do, but i find it hard finding people that are goths... theres not many in my area and i don't know where to look :(

[missXmarie0990]

I'd trust you to know when it's appropriate to dress in certain ways, just like how it is with every group though. Like how it's common knowledge to tone it down when going to a funeral, if you usually dress very dramatically. Ya know? I don't think you should have to tell people.

[FrankenX13]

I'm the only goth where I live as well and I've dated out of my subculture, had to basicly but now I'm with a farmer guy and he loves me for who I am. And we're about to be married some time soon. But I really like this video, opposite sometimes attract.

[Ettra]

All I have to say is, amen to this. One of my biggest pet peeves: when a guy tells me, "You would be so pretty without all those piercings". Kindly shut up. If you don't like me with piercings, then goodbye.

[16Darius16]

O_O

[lilithrozz]

i knew people that were goths and they dated non goths, that after a while of dating the non goth started to make remarks like "oh you would look very cute if you didnt wear black all the time" and they stop dressing dark so they can please their non gothic lovers. its allways good to date alternative people or someone VERY open minded

[NotCreative1000]

-3

[DelaneySpeaks]

wtf.. baby bat?

[MaddieRawMassacre]

I love how your eye make up matches your expressions you do. its so cool! :D

[TheOn3LeftBehind]

I completely agree. Connections are important. What I've noticed, though, is that once people find out you wear "weird clothing" and are into "weird, macabre things," they are IMMEDIATELY reject you.  This is my personality. I like the darker things in life. No wonder I always try to find someone that is "gothy."

[bluebeeem]

cute

[Gothdancer67]

You're so cute when the phone rings specially the second time

[Gothdancer67]

An ex suggested i buy a brite yellow shirt with wavy lines. I commented that it was a charlie brown shirt but got it cuz she said it looked kool. At home she said the nerd look was in.

:( it wasn't me and I knew it from the beginning and I should of said something.

[Beautystar345]

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WINNERS WILL BE CHOSEN ABOUT HOW GOOD I THINK THEY ARE

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[albatros777]

Even if you treat goth as less a culture and more of an obsessive hobby, sharing a hobby I think is a good way for a couple to learn to grow together. I think that is the most important thing for a relationship to last is finding a way you can grow together.

[wickedgothchick]

and thats why they shouldnt date just like you said they say things like oh youd look nice in color or what ever.apparently they dont like the gotj look.so its better to stick to the same LIFE STYLE as your own...here in nyc the crazyest and mist open place ever you will not see a regular person an a goth.we go with our own kind because people always think they NEED to Chang the person.

[Gothdancer67]

Hey, what's your problem with clingy weirdos? Climgy weirdos are people too.  :P

[Gothdancer67]

Dating should be about learning someone's likes and dislikes. If someone doesn't wear anything other than black then don't suggest they wear something else. As an example: I dated someone that didn't like flowers. She never got them for affection, she got them when she was sick therefore flowers made her nauseous. I bought her a dozen roses for valentines day and she took that as a sign I didn't know how to listen.

[hathorrox]

I love ur videos i agree with so much that you say. i hate when i am dating someone and they bring up that i would look good not wearing any makeup. i am 23 years old, i am not an insecure little girl. i wear makeup because i like the way it looks, not because i am afraid to show my "natural beauty." it pisses me off because i am compromising by being with them in the 1st place since i like men who wear at least eyeliner. but biggest problem has been guys thinking im a dominatrix

[MrRicarium]

I think you're beautiful the way you are! >:O

[PrototypeMacabre]

（＾∇＾）yay! Good video!

[ShadowOfKillerLords]

wonderful vid

[Asisan1]

I'm a punk, I have a tendency not to date punk girls, They're better friends than girlfriends from my experience.

[nenekha24]

I just have a couple of goth friends, all the others are "normal" people, we're all different, it's so cool because here in portugal the goth kids at my age (17) are just a bunch of marilyn manson worshipers (I love him) but they don't know anything more about the goth subculture, they're kinda like Vladimir from the other video, and that's veeeery sad

[CuteMachineLottie]

I get told by friends and such to wear colours, not be so pale or wear as much black make up and to not straighten my hair and so on. It does kinda upset you cause it's how you wanna look and they shouldn't try to change it. So I know how you feel.

Awesome vids btw! You're amazing<3

[KajePanik]

It seems like you should just go out with whomever you want. It will work out if it's meant to work out.

I mean. That seemed like the case in point here and should just apply to everyone. I mean sure, being goth makes you a bit "odd in the eyes of normal society" but that doesn't prevent anyone from functioning normally... that being having a regular relationship. (or whatever kind of relationship you're looking for)

[snuffie205]

Gothick!

[GrrlyGore]

Actually this video is one of my favorites.

Your facial expressions are adorable.

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ

[95lucida]

@SebastianTheGirl so I'm kinda in a dillemma I ha e always been attracted to guys outside of the subculture for some weirs reason. I guess in my case opposites attract for me. So theres this guy @ my school that I really like he's Christian and non goth and I wish I could talk to him but each time i pass him by he gives me weird looks. I'm really afraid he thinks bad things about me bcuz of the way I look what should i do? Should I just leave it an try dating within the subculture or should I g

[laughitupgothgirl]

Thank you :-)

[ZxiriMask]

my problem is that many non-goths (i don't know any goths really) assume that just because im goth i'm into sex and kinky crapand they're only into me because they think im easy or something. and its only because im goth. not because of how i dress or act or anything. most of the time i have either a victorian/lolita look, or a more layed back corprate look. and im the kid of girl that would rather hide out in a corner and read or draw or something.

its just so annoying.

[marquardtle]

Are u emo

[Gothtecdotcom]

I have tried to date outside the subculture, never really worked out!!!

[cipher10000]

@sebastianthegirl

you have good videos you remind me

of so many people I grew up with

[rec0ncile]

Dont take this offensively but do you ever smile?

[mynameisdifferent101]

I love your video description. -3

Oh, I have a question. When you were a baby bat you said you were like 11 or 12, right? Well, I was curious, how much make up did you put on??? (I'm an 11 year old baby bat •3•)

[SebastianTheGirl]

@mynameisdifferent101 Like none, my family had a lot of problems with it when I only wore a little bit.

[GrrlyGore]

@mynameisdifferent101 Since you are so young I just wanted to wish you

good luck with your parents and such.

[punkrawkchick101]

This is very much off topic, but I laughed so hard when your phone went off the second time and you just stopped talking, looked annoyed and gave that fake grin. ^^"

[Nikora373]

this is actually the most interesting of videos, because you discuss a topic that I have been worrying about a lot myself lately. I had to do a lot of introducing people around me to myself in my baby bat years, because they didn't know that the real me was a goth to begin with. Thats why I think people who don't know me at first and are not goths might not be as ok with it as the people that already know me, or obviously those who are goths themselves.

[HeartsDecay4200]

She's so smart :D

[LunaFayBFWP]

i am so greatful for my Boyfriend, he never wants me to change and he loves me for me, and hes not inbarased when i go out with him and being my Gothic self -^_^- "Love you baby"

[cmrocker3]

Could you do a video on parents cuz I want to be goth but my rents would do a heart to heart talk with me and tell me it's just a phase.

Any tips?

[SebastianTheGirl]

@cmrocker3 I have a video for parents

[riniluna666]

I think it is a lil important, cuz da person ur wit maybe like u bt not da goth stuff. I dated a guy who didnt care abt it cuz he understand da way of da life he said tat he was gothic (mostly emo) so it was a thing tat me n him had. I did dated a few guys tat werent goth, it didnt least long. Bt da guy who was goth(emo) didnt leasted a long time. I think dateding emos is ok too. I know tat they look 2 much of a wannbe bt they want love like us. ~Emo/Gothic Love~

[riniluna666]

@riniluna666 Iam so sorry I meant 2 say tat It did least a long time when I dated da goth (emo) guy. My bad, =)

[MindKry]

Worse: Go out with someone who you think is kind of cool and then they try to emulate someone from within your perceived subculture because they think that's what you like OR they just change to be more like you for some mysterious reason even though that's not really who they are.

This is the fucking worst. I've been in this situation a few times.

Some chick tells me she doesn't like what I wear or do, I don't really get offended, I tell her to take a hike.

[xlizzyx]

I had a boyfriend who would always say you would look so nice in colour, supprisingly that relationship didnt last :P . I think some people make the mistake of going out with someone just because your both goths, and then realise they have nothing else in common. I've had good relationships with goths, punks, skaters and non-goths as long as they accept me and don't try to change me I don't care what they are.

[AuReLiaCloVen]

hahahaha when the phone rang in the video i thought it was my cell-phone! :P

[xXBarbeloXx]

I have girl friends who try to dictate to everyone, especially boys, what they should wear and how they should dress and they seem to think they're helping when they're just being jerks. I think that's one reason why my boyfriend really likes me: I don't try to change what he likes. I already like him. And he does the same for me.

[GabZiiGlaM]

This question goes for all alternative styles. Its the worst feeling when the person who is meant to understand you and be the one person you confide in, asks you to not be who you are. Guys have done it so much with me, and Im not even goth. Often guys have hurtful comments bout the amount of makeup i wear, or how i tease my hair. But now I have a boyfriend who does my makeup for me sometimes, and we stand together doing our hair :) <3 its the best.

[Gothicdolllolita]

I go through the same dating problems as you. I found it so diifuclt to go out with someone who doesn't really appreciate and understand your goth side. We need more devious boys in this world. XD

[HowardWolowitzFan]

@Gothicdolllolita I'm attracted to goths but there are hardly any in London considering its a popular city.

[LMmayhem]

@HowardWolowitzFan Go to Camden Town lol.... or are you reffering to a London that isnt in England? :]

[Gothtecdotcom]

@HowardWolowitzFan There used to be loads, or your going to the wrong places!!

[DarkCandelle]

@HowardWolowitzFan have you been to Camden?  There's plenty of alternative people that are there

[MischeviousGoose]

@HowardWolowitzFan Camden town?

[lilithrozz]

@HowardWolowitzFan how about camden?

[ezmereldagreen]

@HowardWolowitzFan There are lots of gots in london - you just have to look in the right places....some of them are part timers...

[LarkLovesYou]

i agree....if you like them, you like them. it doesnt matter if they're different.

[pnkrk1039]

I don't think you even needed to make a video about this, but I guess some people are stupid!

[Jujurasik]

you would look good in color but you look 100 times more amazing in black because its what you love the most. i love your videos<3333

[vesperwysteria100]

On the other hand, if you date a non-goth, beware of the people with goth-fetishes who are only into goths sexually and seek them out but don't understand the culture.

[shikario1]

@vesperwysteria100 Those are the worst. Especially when not only do they not understand it....but actually have a hatred for it, only having a fetish for the "look"  (...my last boyfriend was like this.....it does not make for a healthy relationship.)

[aragorn1780]

in conclusion: dating exclusively in the subculture kinda roots out a lot of things that it stands for, and will make you miss out big time on potential mates. Although on the other hand, dating within the subculture will guarantee a lot of common ground to connect over. If you don't mind doing someone else a big favor, dating outside the scene will create a very open mind out of whomever it is you date (unless it goes the other way and they try to make you "normal".....)

[Lenighma]

Completely agree with you. I have those problems with people I know. They ask if I could wear some color, and I'm offended. I am. Glad to know I'm not the only one. And then just last Friday someone asked about my future husband and how I should rethink my choices because "I might grow out of this". Mm hm...

[aragorn1780]

@Lenighma so you know, I am friends with plenty of people in the community that have dated for a long time, others are even engaged or married (some even have children, and yes they were planned!). Though some of these older more mature "goths" may lose some of their flamboyance with age (aka they may not dress down as much), they stay connected to the community and find time to make it out to clubs and gatherings. Goth is not so much a phase as it is a lifestyle

[Domara117]

*ring...ring* `dancing..~ ~eyebrow raise~ Hmm?!

:D you're too cute

[Staniakdowns]

If they really liked you, they wouldn't complain about the way you dress or the way you look, so, relax girl. I'm a goth guy and the same thing happened to me, it shocked me, it really put me down, so, let's not care about those people, they're not worth, I'll be glad when I find someone who can understand me and like me the way I am.

Well, you have basically get to know the person before you start a relationship, don't go too fast.

[FarcusNS]

Lol I've never dated within my subculture.

Of course I've never met another 80's style goth before. xD

[Jannibean]

im vain I cant help it. I like to date certain people with certain traits, including personality, and if you lack them it automatically turns me off/ make me uninterested and I wont pursue it.

[SalmaSparkly69]

i know i dont like it when people KEEP telling me i look better wearing colour or not as much black makeup or something =/ i mean i know, i may look better with more colour but i dont think its really NEEDED you know? i feel MUCH more comfortable in black than colour...

[elm1230]

lmao! The phone ringing part is humorous!

I think one should date whom ever they want. I don't understand why people would date someone but feel uncomfortable or embarrassed. If you feel that way then don't pursue the relationship. I do understand why most people do try and date other like them. Things are probably much easier. At least the basics.

[BriexGore]

you make very good points in this video (: Thank you

[6FaceDrak]

:3

[anaisabel221]

thats right i agree with u ..

[Imverycareless]

is your camera acting weird? your face looks blurry and then the background is in focus, shouldn't it be other way around? ._.

[bessiemooo]

im not goth, but i think goth girls are very very sexy most of the time :D

[RainbowUnicornMagic]

Love you! You're greatt(: