Did Jesus & Paul teach the same thing?/Dr:Wisam Abdullah/P1

[1treim1]

if you cant understand paul dont speak on him please paul never contridicts nothing

[faithbyloving]

Dr. Abdullah, quotes two scripture verses, written by the same author, which he believes contradict each other! Well, I don't know if Dr. Abdullah contradicts himself, but when it comes to Luke writing Acts accounts, we can be sure that he checked everything he wrote. In Acts 9:7 the companions hears a sound like a voice, but NOT the words. In Acts 22:9 it means again, that they did not hear the words of the voice. Luke knew perfectly well what he was writing, even if Abdullah doesn't

[faithbyloving]

The Next witness who Testified of the Apostle Paul's service to God was Barnabus:

Acts 9:27 "But Barnabas took him, and brought him to the apostles, and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus" - So yet again Another Testimony on Paul's behalf, this time by Barnabus.

As you read through the book of Acts, you begin to realise that ALL the Apostles, including Paul, were knew each other

[faithbyloving]

The Next witness who Testified of the Apostle Paul's service to God, was Ananias:

Acts 9:11 " And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,

Act 9:12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight" - Here we see God spoke directly to Ananias and told him to go and meet Paul and heal his blindness

[faithbyloving]

So here we see plainly that the Apostle Peter Testified on the Apostle Paul's behalf and agreed with him. This is not to say that there not disagreements at times, but that these were later resolved.

[faithbyloving]

Peter describes these people who argue against Paul's writings, as "WICKED" - "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, BEWARE lest ye also, being LED AWAY WITH THE ERROR OF THE WICKED, fall from your own stedfastness" 2 Peter 3:17

Note: This situation describes the Muslims/Islamic doctrine perfectly, as they are those who Argue against Apostle Paul's teachings and Peter describes such people as "WICKED" and "LED AWAY" and going to their "OWN DESTRUCTION"!!

[faithbyloving]

so we see that even in the writings of Peter, we learn that those who argue with Paul's writings are "unlearned" and "unstable" and also argue against the other scriptures" to their own destruction!! " which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest(argue against), as they do also the other scriptures, unto their OWN DESTRUCTION" !!

[faithbyloving]

Further, Peter states that Paul also wrote of the same Salvation which Peter preached in Paul's Epistles: "As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things", but that the "unlearned" argue with just like the muslims today argue with his writings! "in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction" -

[faithbyloving]

Note that Peter Testifies about Paul, that God gave him WISDOM! "the wisdom that God gave him" and Peter also states that Peter wrote of the Salvation through the suffering of the Lord: "And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is SALVATION; even as our BELOVED BROTHER PAUL also according to the wisdom given unto him HAS WRITTEN UNTO YOU"

[faithbyloving]

Now Dr. Abdullah, makes the false claim that no one "witnessed for Paul" and "no one agreed with him"! But this is patently untrue! Lets look at what the scripture actually tell us!

PETER'S TESTIMONY: 2 Peter 3:15 "Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as OUR DEAR BROTHER PAUL also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him" - so we see even here that Paul was "beloved" not because Peter "disagreed" with him, but because Peter recognised The Lord working through Paul.

[faithbyloving]

So this was the testimony about Jesus by John the Baptist.

Now the Testimony of God the Father:

Matthew 3:16 "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, in whom I am well pleased."

[faithbyloving]

John 1:33 "And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Joh 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

Joh 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

Joh 1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!"

[faithbyloving]

Dr Wisam Abdullah appears to be making quite a few bad mistakes here!

First he talks of "witnesses/testimony" in regard to Jesus. Here are some:

John 1:32-1:36 "And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

[j919or]

I tried to debunk his other vid but no comments allowed. In Mt16 he said that some wouldnt taste death til they saw the kingdom of God come. Next chapter has 2 reps from the OT and Jesus transformed before 3 of the apostles. The prophecy of this generation etc was fulfilled in 70ad. Prophecy has an immediate application to the hearers and a later application to future readers. The second fulfillment is still to come.

[datbwoity]

@Kbdory

Wrong cause the lord says if you do not have any witness you are a liar. You see, he says this so that scenario won't happen, because he will only tell something like that IF someone else is around to hear it. He wouldn't tell you that one on one

[kbdory]

If God told me to go to Atlanta, and later on tell you to go to Atlanta. When I get back, I can tell people that God told me to go to Atlanta, not you(because I did not know that God told you). Then when you get back, you can say the same about me(Because you did not know that God told me also). But in reality, he told us both. Some people will not see it this way, and will say one is lying, when in fact both are telling the truth.

[mobarkme]

Mithraism and Judaism merged and became Christianity. Jesus, son of the Hebrew sky God, and Mithras, son of Ormuzd are both the same myth. The rituals of Christianity coincide with the earlier rituals of Mithraism, including the Eucharist and the Communion in great detail. The language used by Mithraism was the language used by Christians. St Paul as the first "Christian" bears much of the responsibility for merging the two in his preaching and teaching, and also comes from Tarsus.

[j919or]

@mobarkme ""Mithraism and Judaism merged ""

That in itself is a myth and has been debunked. But you spout it without research thus wishing it to be true and venting ur own hostility towards the creator and your worthiness of hell and choice for hell. The only commonality was December 25 and that wasnt even close to Jesus' birth time.

[YahSedQanu]

The man of sin being revealed. Important for us all to note! the falling away did happen in that time when people started to follow this man Paul (mr. sin) of Tar´si(n)s, instead of the teachings of the unique teacher Yah Ho Shua!

[brayguru]

why do these who call themselves ishmael hate those called isac

can a man by rightous works equeal a G()D? NO a man can come to a lesser god but not the FATHER but by a true man who never sined [for to sin is to seperate us from G()D] must do a work we canot for we are siners and canot see the FATHER except through HIM by faith and trueth in his sacrifice to conqer death and take the sting of the grave to enter the FATHERKINGDOM and us in him covered by CHRIST through faith baptised in love

[YahSedQanu]

To sin, is to transgress Hatorot...the law the man Yahoshua came to teach the children of the house of Ya´aqub... there is no other definition of sin then the transgression of the 10 commandments and the 613 statutes in which even Yshma´yl was instructed. But his sons abbandoned them as did the house of Yaaqub. Faith is nothing without work. We WORK by keeping Yahs commanmends in Love and obediance to Yah.

[faruk715]

No they didn't. Jesus was a jew even Paul. But Paul created his own theology which became later todays Christianity.

[Xeonxtreme]

Read 2 Peter 3:14-16 (Written of Simon Peter)

Xeonxtreme interpet: Those of Christ look attentively for his coming, be without fault. State the longsuffering(and death) of Jesus Christ is our salvation and the salvation of our beloved brother Paul whose writtens(epistles) is to you according to the wisdom given(of God), which they that are unlearned and unstable turn/twist, as they do with other writtens of God(scriptures) to their own destruction.

It then warns you not to be lead astray.

[iaa88]

جزاك الله خير يالغالي

[salam752]

وإياك أخي الكريم