You "Young Turks" have your heads in the clouds on firearms ownership and regulations. Rallying behind the facade of safety to hide the fact that you're a wimp is counter-productive. Go exercise your 2nd Amendment Rights, and quit fuckin' with mine.
You want to know what the "other lies" are? Look at all the grand promises he made. Now look and see if he accomplished them. Enough said on that.
The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting, but since you're a liberal I am not surprised you are completely misguided. The 2nd Amendment is for protection, for the people to protect themselves from the aggressors and criminals of their society and a government that has become corrupted and out of control: much like this government.
@Mr2ndAmendment "a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." That is the 2nd amdt word for word. This was written when the US didn't have a large, formal military, and had to rely on everyday people for the security of the state (i.e. for military purposes). It was also written when guns weren't nearly as deadly as they are today.
So you're kinda right.. but also completely misguided.
You have obviously not read the Federalist Papers, or Common Sense, or read through Jefferson's and especially Washington's own personal quotes on the matter of individuals having guns. They used personally-owned firearms to create this country. Back then, everybody had a gun and knew how to use it and carried it with them within their possession at almost all times. The 2nd Amendment clearly means every person shall have the right to own firearms on an individual level.
@Mr2ndAmendment I think we have different definitions of the word "clearly." The amendment itself is pretty vague, and regardless of the common practices back then, I think the interpretation of it is up for debate. I seem to have overlooked your user name though, before typing my last comment. so I have a feeling neither of us are going to budge on the issue.. later
What a DORK !! The 2nd Amendment is NOT about hunting !! It's about AMERICANS being able to protect themselves from TYRANNY in their OWN GOV'T !! Just as AMERICANS did during the Revolutionary WAR !! Like Taxation w/out representation ! Like "deeming" bills passed, fast & furious was the first tentacles of the gun grab, blaming legal owners / dealers for the problem, immediately start floating the idea of more gun control.......
We don't need guns because every form of law enforcement will protect us when we need it right? Because evil doesn't exist right? This liberal crap makes me sick.....
I bet when you have some drug crazed murderer in your house ready to kill your stupid ass you would REALLY believe in gun ownership. If you don't like guns, move to MEXICO. I guarantee you won't have to deal with guns there. Not from law abiding citizens anyway. I am a law abiding citizen who owns AND carries a firearm on a daily basis. I will never harm a fellow human out of malice and I will NEVER surrender my second amendment right to please brain dead liberals !!
Wayne LaPierre is the Executive Vice President of the National Rifle Association, and John C. Siegler is the President of the National Rifle Association.
the young turks are fucking morons and should be shot with my legal and highly powerful barrett .50, but, im a law abidding former navy seal who only dreams of putting retards out of REAL AMERICANS misery!
Everyone needs to be anti-gun! If you want a gun, join the army idiot. What we don't need are untrained, trigger happy civilians out there just waiting to use a gun during a violent conflict. If you morons want to carry a gun, join the police or armed forces. You see how effective carry a firearms is, violent crime is at an all time high. Civilians have NO justification for carrying any firearms. All this does is strokes their egos and makes them WANT to get involved in violent confrontations.
I'm an NRA member but yeah LaPierre is a nut case and I certainly don't support his nonsense. He;s just a republican pawn. I do think Obama has been doing a good job on this issue so far. I don't know what he's complaining about. The NRA is supposed to be a one issue lobby and they should get behind whoever does the right thing on that issue. Their are democratic politicians who aren't gun-grabbing loons and the NRA should support them.
lol mojo , you twat ..the NRA promote gun safety, hunter's rights ,sensiblegun legislation and the protection of the 2nd amendment ..for a $30 donation ,ANYONE can join the NRA they dont require a background check for new members ..as a percentage of those convicted for gun homicides ,i would BET that NRA members make up LESS than one percent ..want to bet me ?....hmmmm?
2 million NRA members murder 10,000 Americans every year. They promote the proliferation of handguns and rifles with lies, propaganda, and fear. In Afghanistan they are called Taliban and Jihad. In America, NRA is all you need to know about homegrown terrorism.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed..Why liberals should love the Second Amendment
by Kaili Joy Gray aka Angry Mouse
What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is so hard to understand ???
the 2nd amendment is NOT even slightly about "hunting " you odious, ignorant poltroon ..and btw, its becoming ever more obvious the this "fast and felonious operation " was merely a cynical political gambit to pad the numbers of narco crimes commited with legit US guns bought in border states ...thats right ,liberal "progressives " INTENTIONALLY armed the narco terrorists KNOWING that thousands of innocent mexicans and cops would die by those SAME guns its.hope and change ..comrade
@woodenmajor, Legit sales. That is the problem. The NRA promotes the proliferation of guns and you NRA terrorist want to transport the carnage to Mexico. With Osama Bin Laden gone you NRA terrorist need to amp up the killing of Americans. VT cop, murdered by the NRA. The prior massacre there, murder by the NRA. The 2000 kids that get shot by guns, murdered by the NRA. No they were not murdered by spoons because guns kill people.
@guitarkram “I believe that Heller II . . is our most
significant loss in court to date.” Oct, 2011, a conservative
U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit issued a decisive
ruling in favor of strong gun laws, refusing to strike down Washington,
D.C.’s gun laws, which are among the strictest in the nation. The laws at issue were enacted by the District after that decision, and included registration requirements and a ban on assault weapons and assault clips.
@guitarkram, How do you make up this insipid blather? What do guns used by the military have to do with civilians having too many guns? You NRA people may get away with comparing apples to car tires when you are in each others' company but those of use with brains and knowledge know you are paranoid, impressionable, dull people who misinterprete the Constitution. Guns kill people; other objects are not as lethal or designed for this one thing. Handguns are made to kill.
Fucking brilliant observation skills there. We've established handguns are used to kill humans (actually they are used to hunt often but let's ignore that for the sake of argument) what now?
Why should they be banned? Why is it gospel to you anti-gunners that "Civilians should not own weapons designed to kill people"? Because I fail to see the self-evidence of that statement.
A man with a valid concealed-weapon permit died after a semi-automatic pistol without an external safety discharged investigators have concluded.
The 45-year-old man was sitting in the front seat of his family's minivan in a shopping center parking lot on Sunday when his .40-caliber Glock discharged.
The detective thinks that in doing so in just grabbing it he inadvertently grabbed the trigger. The single shot struck the man in the hip, he bled to death in a matter of minutes. AN NRA FOOL. LOL
Before you gun owners get too wound up, you should bear in mind that there is no constitutional right to gun ownership. The second amendment states a right to bear arms only as part of a "well-organised militia". There is no constitutional right to own guns, carry guns or to keep them in your home. Only weaklings need them anyway, so grow up.
@AlbortRoss Yes their is the US supreme court ruled in 2008 in heller vs dc that the second amendment is an individual right to keep and bear arms outside service of a militia for lawful purposes such as self defence with in the home. In 2010 the supreme court ruled in mcdonald vs chicago that all state and local governments are subject to the second amendment. Both cases struck down bans on handguns. It says the right of the people, not the militia you didn't read it correctly.
"ONLY WEAKLINGS NEED [FIREARMS]". Brilliant Mr. AlbortRoss. I totally agree with you about civilians owning guns with the exception of the following.
Unless you're a hunter or living in a demilitarized zone or urban ghetto, your possession of a gun is a direct indication of your personal insecurities be it an overinflated sense of danger, lack of "real" power in your daily life, or your small genitalia.
@AlbortRoss Or to defend your family if the need arises. 2 doors down from me a man was tied up and robbed in his own home. If the situation arrises, that will not be me. If somebody approaches you with a knife or even a gun we will see what kind of weakling you are.
Look at Obama's anti gun record. He supported complete bans on all handguns and semi automatic firearms. He opposes right to carry laws and he favors a federal ban on conceal carry. He opposes good honest americans using firearms in self-defence. He supports the repeal of the tiahrt amendment to allow reckless lawsuites to sue gun manufactors into bankruptcy. Theres many more, the man is a lying crook I don't trust him with my freedom I can't wait to vote him out in 2012.
You should move to England and when riots break out, you will get your ass beat because only criminals will have guns and you will have a baseball bat. Moron!
Personally I can NEVER handle a gun- not after what happened when I was 5YO.
Mom was cleaning her handgun in the kitchen & left it on the table to answer the phone. Thinking it was a toy, I picked it up, pointed it at her back & fired. I had to watch 2hrs of her agony, her life slowly ebbing away before me. Ever since, I have lived with the guilt of killing of both my mother AND my sister (Mom was 7 months pregnant at the time).
Certainly Dad has never forgiven me & we don’t speak today.
Don't people that use guns to commit crimes or murders usually get them illegally anyway? What's the point of having very strict gun laws if it makes it harder for regular citizens from obtaining weapons legitimately to protect themselves from robbers, governments, or zombies? Anything with guns, I rather have Wes Clark Jr. talk about it than Michael Shure. There was this one time where I couldn't purchase a gun because I don't own a house. I was like "When the fuck did this bullshit law pass?"
The Young Turds Dead bodies of US agents with guns from Fast & Furious with hard factual evidence at the scene & a massive investigation with the DOJ black out redaction of almost every single page of subpoena material & absolutely no straight answers
from any of the people questioned & them claiming none of them shared info or investigated the botched crimes or dead agents is all a conspiracy plot to oust "black men" in power positions . I guess The Young Turds are "coincidence theorists"
If you take away the guns from the people you make them victims of the criminals who will always manage to get guns anyway. Without a gun you are a sitting duck. All you gun control chinks need to ask yourself what would you do when an armed criminal is trying to break through your door. Going to let him rape your 6 year old? Your wife? Well, you're just gonna have to sit there and watch if he and his buddy have guns. Got it. Think about it.
Michael Shure is a Neo Liberal logie. If you don't like Americans having guns then you just need to pack up your bags and move to another country or maybe Chicago. Strictest guns laws in the country and one of the highest crime rates too.
I don't like to hunt, yet when all is said and done I don't want the ONLY one with guns to be the GOVERNMENT. I don't think the government is some great evil that needs to be feared, but IF something bad were to happen we'd be fucked if they were the only ones holding the weapons.
Do you people denying this video realize that the "Operation Fast an Furious" scandal has been known about for months and is now hitting the mainstream news?
guns are not protected uder our constitution for HUNTING it is for the ability to overthrow a tyranical government. rebellion is still illegal but he ability to start one is not guns should not be resricted from good law abiding citizens
I completely agree with him. What the fuck is wrong with people are than them being sadists. We live in times where e dont need to hunt for our food. We can buy it. So if you eliminate the reason to hunt other than for sheer fascination, then there's something wrong with you. If you feel spiritually elevated by blowing something's head off, then it's obvious you have no moral compass, and you have a LOOOOONG way to go as a recognised good person.
Can this "guy" even read? The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or sports, typical spin from shills. Is he also clueless towards Obama's voting record in the past, as well as his entire cabinet including Rahm Emanuel wanted to implement a no-fly-no-buy list for those on the no fly list cannot purchase a gun; no due process, no judge or jury.
The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with target shooting or hunting. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is designed to rein in government tyranny.The ultimate ck and balance.
@taz69x look up invention secrecy act, anything the government wants to deem "national security" they can take it without compensation, even if you live in another country and are a natural born U.S. citizen. There is my biggest one. I have a list. They can do what ever they want! But they know if the natives are restless they would more than have their hands full. Intellutal property rights? Not hardly! So when do it end?
Lol I hear some of the comments "you just want to hold on to your guns" I really hafto lol over that, I enjoy the freedom this country has, and day by day law by law it is being striped and torn down. I just have one more thing to say and then I'll let you guys argue til you are blue in the face. The very freedoms you enjoy are not even counted as a blessing. I fought and my brothers in arms died for freedom. Little bit at a time? Soon what you fight for will be next, what then? Think about that
Well when Project Gun Runner occurs, it's not much of a tough sell to say there is a conspiracy going on. But I guess that's not a fact the left really wants to look at.
@atheistphilosopher No they definitely didn't have assault rifles in mind when they wrote the constitution. They thought that their wimpy little muzzle loaders that could punch a water melon sized hole threw a mans chest at over a mile was as far as Gun technology would ever get.
@usyno, your kidding right? Loopholes? What loopholes? Anyone can get a gun illegally are you kidding money talks, this is nothing but restrictions on responsible gun owners. Who cares if you go to a gun show and sell one, the new owner has taken the gun, kind of like a car, someone runs you over with a car are you going to go to the prevous owner? Ford? Chevy? Your point goes nowhere! Enforce the laws already on the books!!
I could care less about bush,or any other dope in the government,enforceing the laws that are already on the books takes care of things just fine! Enforcement of the laws goes for everyone!! Did you hear of anyone in the last 4years go to prison for any of the "investagations" in mexico? Nope, how about them being ordered to brake the law? If you or I did that there would be all kinds of stories all over every possible media! Get the point? Adgenda! This is not the end not by a long shot
Wow I can't belive how ignorant people are of the law,my father is a retired police capitain, decorated, and has rare guns, tons of them.collectors items. What threat is he? None, why? Law abiding? Yes! Doesn't matter if you have 5 or 500 of them, you held accountable if they are used in a crime. If I want to go out and buy 100 guns it doesn't matter, I have had my background checked and the guns numbers are on file. Point it is none of anyones business how many I have. The police know! Already!
The NRA is worst than the drug cartels.I have nothing against the 2nd amendment,but the gun loop holes have to stop,and it seems like the NRA is ok with that and oh by the way these same people stood very close with the Bush administration.
The NRA is worst than the drug cartels.I have nothing against the 2nd amendment,but the gun loop holes have to stop,and it seems like the NRA is ok with that and oh by the way these same people stood very close with the Bush administration.
Last time I checked 13 yr old could not buy guns in the US? Once again people kill people. If the kid didn't have a gun he would have a knife or bat and wait for you to leave your house and club you to death. Fix the reason why there are gangs! No jobs no money no parents no education? No guns? WTF
Gun laws or any law for that matter is not written by the common man anymore,it is written by government which is now completely in corprate,bankers pockets, it will not be long, it's is going on right now,confescations without warrent,searches without warrent, permits don't mean anything. It's common knowledge nothing new! They sell guns to the drug cartels openly, but only to get an excuse to take law abiding U.S. citizens guns. No conflict means easy control pure and simple
@zebbedi They brake the law and you hate them for it. I abide by the law and you hate me for it. Sounds completely reasonable to me... Your moral position is hate and you admit to that??? Fine, Conversation is over.
@eldogg4life Actually, In my country you would be breaking the law. The age of sexual consent in Mexico is 12, if a fully grown man sleeps with a 12 year old in Mexico it's legal but in my eyes it's still paedophilia and I still hate them for it. I think peoples actions define them. Anybody who wants to own a weapon capable of such damage would likely be prepared to use it, therefore they are prepared to commit murder. I think that is as far away from civilised society as you can get.
Layer upon layer of regulations, more and more rights taken away at the stroke of a pin,why? One word fear! Pure and simple! Take the means of someone to defend themselves and make them dependent on more government, but it's too late to call the police when you are dying bleeding to death, while you watch your wife and/or children and then killed, take away gun rights you take away criminals fear of commiting the crime, they get guns reguardless of what laws are on the books, life is defence.
@dynzyg Listen, I agree that law biding citizens should be able to own pretty much any gun they want . But our current laws that allow someone to buy a dozen hand guns and then "lose" them only to come back a week later and buy another dozen are fucking retarded. This is the reason cities like mine (Oakland) are flooded with 13 year old gang bangers packing heat. Is your right to own an unlimited # of guns more importants than my right to not have to sleep in my bathtub to avoid stray bullets?
@dynzyg Listen, I agree that law biding citizens should be able to own pretty much any gun they want . But our current laws that allow someone to buy a dozen hand guns and then "lose" them only to come back a week later and buy another dozen are fucking retarded. This is the reason cities like mine (Oakland) are flooded with 13 year old gang bangers packing heat. Is your right to own an unlimited # of guns more importants than my right to not have to sleep in my bathtub to avoid stray bullets?
@durhamdf This is what drives me nuts, the solution to this problem is right in front of every ones face but when the powers that be and those ignorant about guns try to fix the problem all they do is take away law abiding gun owners rights. There is a flip side those as well. The gun nuts, usually toothless backwoods hicks that still can't even figure out how a Velcro shoes work wants 0 regulation and get all pissy about even registering a firearm.
@tr28901 Exactly, I like shooting guns as much as the next guy but we need to realize that our right to be free from any govt. intervention in our lives is trumped by the need to keep cities like mine from turning into war zones where some teenager gets killed every other night. I'm not saying we need to make it impossible for law biding citizens to purchase a gun, just that we need to make sure that those who buy guns aren't just turning around and selling them to gangs or mexican cartels
@durhamdf And this line of thinking drives me even more nuts. Those kids in your city that are getting shot every night, they are not getting shot with firearms that were purchased legally. They are getting shot with firearms that were purchased in under ground markets. I use to live in Chicago where all hand guns are banned. The crime rate went up and specifically hand gun related crimes went threw the roof. It created a huge market for under ground weapons...
@durhamdf I lived in Chicago and i have seen first hand what strict gun laws do... NOTHING ! Gun related crimes and murder went threw the roof after the hand gun ban was implemented here. It created huge under ground market for weapons and now we are seeing more fully automatic assault weapons being smuggled into the city. Gun laws and regulations need to target the criminals and not law abiding gun owners.
@tr28901 Listen, I live in Oakland california, we have 0 gun stores in our city and yet we consistently have one of the highest murder rates in the country. Why? Because a citywide ban is useless when: A. you can go across town and buy a gun in another city. B. The people we care about getting guns are already getting these guns illegally on the black market, what do they care. I am not suggesting any gun bans, I am suggesting we stop the black market with better enforcement of our current laws.
@durhamdf That's the thing, our current laws do nothing to stop criminals from getting weapons on the black markets. All they do is make it harder for law abiding citizens to purchase and own guns. No one buy's a gun using their name then goes and commits a crime with it. Criminals don't buy guns from gun shops so any laws that have to do with limiting the sale and purchasing or owning a gun bought from a gun store does nothing to stop the criminal element from getting and using firearms.
@tr28901 Where do you think those black market guns come from my friend? Canada? LOL. Our black market, which fuels the mexican cartels and the countless American street gangs, comes from local gun shops all across the U.S.. It seems pretty fucking stupid that with this big a problem facing our country a man can still buy an unlimited number of firearms and not even register them in many states. I think it is fine for someone to own even an AK, but does anyone need hundreds of handguns?
@durhamdf First off, every gun you buy is registered. 2nd, The U.S is not the only country that makes guns. A lot guns used in crimes are foreign knock offs. There are many ways to get gun's illegally and The gun shop, for the most part, is not one of them.
What i am trying to get into you to understand is that most gun laws affect law abiding gun owners. Most gun laws do nothing to stop or get firearms out of the hands of criminals.
@tr28901 No I am pretty positive that you don't have to register handguns in most states especially if it is a second party transfer and not from a licensed dealer. They DO have to conduct a background check. Lol foreign knockoffs? Just look at the Mexican Drug Cartels almost every weapon they find at murder scenes in Mexico can be traced back to the U.S.. We are the cheap gun industry! And why would it matter if they are foreign? They still get sold in U.S. stores legally with few limitations.
@durhamdf By foreign knock off i mean something like a Walther P99 and a Smith & Wesson SW99. something that can be bought outside the U.S & smuggled in.
Anyway, the transfer thing,i don't the the specifics so I'm not going to comment on it. My understanding how ever is you need a FFL dealer to transfer firearms. I think what you are talking about is the gun show loophole ? Another topic i don't know the specifics of. I do know that is a problem & where a lot weapons are obtained illegally.
@tr28901 WHy would we smuggle in weapons that are legal for sale here? THat is absolute giberish. And why would you sneak weapons into the largest gun manufacturing country on the planet? We export almost 100 times more guns than we import. And I wasn't taking about the gun show loophole which I believe they closed. I in most states you don't have to register a handgun (just Cali/NY), just need a background check and to wait. Most states don't even do a mental health background check
@durhamdf Many reasons. Off the top of my head, Fully automatic AK47's can be bought in some parts of the world for $10 U.S or less. They can then be smuggled in and sold for... A lot ! I don't know specifics but i do know the pre-ban AK's can legally sell for over $15K.
As for the gun show loophole, Ya, they fixed that all right.
To all those anti-hunters I can respect your opinion but only if you are a vegetarian. If you eat meat and are an anti-hunter then the respect goes out the door. I work in Service Industry and have had to work on equipment in slaughter house. These farm raised animals live a far more cruel life and suffer far more than any animal I have harvested. I hated to see any animal suffer. At least the meat on my table had chance to be free, reproduce and breath fresh air, but of best of all it didn't h
When riots broke in the UK could the people defend themselves when the Police refused to help at the beginning. If we lived in a perfect world yes we would not need guns but until then I'll keep mine. If the law enforcement would do there jobs we would not need any new regulations. With or without guns, people kill people a gun is just a tool, no different than a knife, bomb or even a rock. Are we going to take away rocks and knives from people?
It's obvious that there strong feelings on both sides of gun rights and hunting. I can relate to both sides. Yes I am pro-gun and a hunter. My guns are available to me so I can protect family and property. They also used to harvest meat for my family. I do not take any animal for sport, only to feed my family. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Humans are predators, with or without guns look at History. Swords, rocks, sticks?
I wish these gun nuts with put their money where there mouth is, lube up they're tiny cocks and fuck one of the 15 guns they have in they're basement because there father was a psychotic and his father's father was psycotic
@fu699 Obviously you misread the definition of logic, cus' i've got it.. well enough for you and me both thats for sure.. which is good though, cus' you contain very little at the most. At least i can say I don't get joy out of taking life away, cus' that shits just fucked up and I'm better off this way.
I bought two rifles last month, and I got a call and a letter from the atf here in Cali. Why do my guns have to be registered with the atf? That is totally unconstitutional,and Obama signed that order to be sent to all gun dealers in CA, AZ, TX, NM, AR. The dealer showed me that shit, and I was in total shock!!!! He is a fucking lire!!!!!!
@MCsuperChristina Interesting opinion, however I would like to read your answer to the question I addressed. What would you advice a nation to do in order to defend themselves against genocide and to oppose being forced into concentration camps? Imagine if you will, that you were asked to advice the nation on how to resist at last resort. -- I highly recommend a film titled "Innocents Betrayed", by the Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. Live Long & take care - Mike.
@MCsuperChristina Interesting opinion, however I would like to read your answer to the question I addressed. What would you advice a nation to do in order to defend themselves against genocide and to oppose being forced into concentration camps? Imagine if you will, that you were asked to advice the nation on how to resist at last resort. -- I highly recommend a film titled "Innocents Betrayed", by the Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. Live Long & take care - Mike.
@cuevas04 So you dont have a gun but the criminal does how does that work in your favor. Sorry to tell you I can go by a gun in five minutes on the street and can rob somebody in five minutes but damn if I'm would go in to a house or up to a person I new or thought might have a gun. I'm looking for you the easy target. But at least you stuck to your guns. LOL I'll stick to mine and see who's walking away at the end.
TYT should be embarrised for not even knowing that LaPierre is talking about Obamas illegally imposing Mexican boarder states firearm dealers new regulations on multiple firearm purchases. Since that is not something you will hear about on TV, Most retard sheeple think it diden't happen,
For a country that is willing to sacrifice its freedom for security. It is ironic that a lot of people have died to make sure we live in a free nation.
For a country that is willing to sacrifice its freedom for security. It is ironic that a lot of people have died to make sure we live in a free nation.
guns saved Switzerland from the Nazis, and thats just one reason we need them, to protect us from foreign governments and domestic . and common hunting controls animal population
Of all of the things my fellow conservatives and I dislike about the President, his treatment of the 2nd Amendment doesn't even come to mind. I'm sure, that if provided a majority in Congress that voted in another Assault Weapons Ban, he would sign it, but President Obama really doesn't seem too bothered by my right to bear arms. I regretfully deliver this ad hominem, but I think Wayne is showing the beginning symptoms of Alzheimer's
You know Your tax monies to buy guns to give to violent Mexican drug cartels that operate over our borders. Not ending drug war...fail. while you are at it Martial Artists need their arms and legs chopped off since they have potential to kill with them. Bush3.0bama sux like tyt propagandists.
You know Your tax monies to buy guns to give to violent Mexican drug cartels that operate over our borders. Not ending drug war=fail. while you are at it Martial Artists need their arms and legs chopped off since they have potential to kill with them. Bush3.0bama sux like tyt propagandists.
hunting controls dear population. with our guns no country can occupy us , including the UN and NATO. look at Switzerland gun laws and how it saved them durring WW2. criminals will always have guns that they get from somewhere , not the store
I'd also like to add: The 18th Amendment, the prohibition of alcohol, makes much more sense in modern times than the 2nd Amendment - therefore, if the 18th Amendment can be repealed, so can the 2nd Amendment.
The 21st Amendment of the US Constitution repeals the 18th Amendment. This is because the constitution is not designed to be dictatorial, but is designed to be fluid - as time and circumstance changes, amendments can be added or repealed. The Constitution was designed to be questioned and changed! In other words, the constitution is suppose to be written by logic! Once the reason for any Amendment is no longer significant, that Amendment is no longer significant!
@DeepSouth16 Why don't I have a right to own a car? Are all rights explicitly spelled out in the Constitution? Yes, we have the right to bear arms, but the Amendment starts with "A well regulated militia...". I think you meant a fee to talk, not a fine and speech doesn't have the same potential for harm as gun ownership.
if i go and shoot a dog, cut off his head, mount it on my wall,and then cook and eat the remains it is considered animal crulity. but if i do the same with a deer it is considerd a sport and is perfectly legal. WTF!
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think there has ever been an attempt to ban rifles designed for hunting. Moreover, the Second Amendment is not about hunting, it's about security. It's also one of the few times that regulation is mentioned in the Constitution. I think gun ownership should be regulated. Every state requires a license to drive a car, why not a license to have a gun?
You can gtfo too. You aren't even 1/16th the intellect of our founding fathers yet you proclaim to know betterr than them how a free man should live. Your name will never be on a document as important and timeless as our constitution. You have a delusional personality that makes you believe you are right, regardless of thousands of years of human history that set the stage for ouur constitution. Get over yourself.
@capucchan8 Your english is poor, it's hard to make out your meaning. Obama appointed Holder, you should look up the job definition of President. Unlike democratically elected governments the President rules as a king. Bush tried to put a legal secretary on the supreme court, it's madness.
@nilbud Oliver North was not part of the Reagan administration, yet the Iran Contras scandal was attributed to his administration as they allowed those events to take place, same thing applies to the Obama administration, you wanna talk about madness how about the charlatan who came in promising change but assembled an economic team consisting of the same people who pushed for the financial deregulation that led to the financial crises
@nilbud as for my English let my write this clearly, if this operation fast and furious had happened under Bush would you then argue that the ATF is not part of the administration? you seem to be one of Obama's fanatical fundamentalist fans who excuse everything he does
I use to watch this YouTube channel but they are sounding more and more like FoxNews. As for Mr. Shure he need to do a little research before he sticks his foot in his or should I say Obama's dick in his mouth. You should move the he'll out of my Country and go to the UK you communist bastard. Look how having no guns works for them.
Okay fuck hunters I want to protect the rights of myself I may not agree with this guy but you morons that want to disarm law abiding citizens can gtfo.
@harr77 I hate hunters also, even though i have hunted and do on rare occasions. I believe it will be a very useful skill in the relatively near future. That being said, the overwhelming majority of hunters are nothing more then sadistic pricks.
The NRA has`always used FEAR, HATE, LIES and RACISM to get members and donations just like the fascist neocon republicans. Obama could care less about your guns.
You fucking assholes! He never made fun of "guns and religion". He was asked about what he thought about the joblessness in middle America. And he answered that when you have no fucking jobs you tend to cling to your guns and religion. What was soooo bad about that? As a rallying cry people where like "It's true Mr. President, we DO cling to our guns and our god!" Ok? If it was so wrong then why do you AGREE that that is in fact the case?! What a bunch of whiney lil snotty brats on the Right!
2008: "OBAMA IS GOING TO REMOVE THE 2ND AMENDMENT THE SKY IS FALLING OH MY GOD SOCIALISM SOCIALISM SOCIALISM"
2009, Obama's first year in office: He works to give us the ability to conceal carry firearms in all National Parks, it passes into law
February 2010: National Park CCW law kicks into effect, thus expanding gun rights
2011: "HIS FIRST TERM WAS JUST A TRICK HE IS REALLY GONNA DO IT THIS TIME IF WE ELECT HIM AGAIN THE SKY IS FALLING SOCIALISM SOCIALISM SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!"
I'm all for people owning guns but when you associate yourself with a group like this I can only assume that you are insane and therefore you shouldn't own one.
Perhaps you should read a bit about the president and his AG's plan to try to manufacture evidence of illegal gun sales to Mexican Cartels with operation Fast and Furious, which has gotten American's killed through their ineptitude? Or his agreement with Brady to use a Presidential order to sidestep congress? Or just look at his record with the Illinois state senate. His administration is decidedly anti 2nd Amendment.
anybody can own a pistol with two magizines, if your a licensed gun owner with no history of crime, and a good purpose for owning the guns, you can have more... if your stockpiling light machine guns and rpgs cause you like that they can kill someone from 500 meters away with one bullet then your a dangerous idiot
@tr28901 Its frustrating that I was obviously exaggerating. I don't know the exact stats about guns, I don't know exactly at what range one bullet to the chest is enough to kill. I know that if you bring a gun with a 100 bullet clip, it can kill a lot more people than a gun with 15 bullet clip, because usually, people jump you when your reloading. The 2nd amendment was passed in a time, where you shot one round and then it would take 10 seconds at least to reload, it shouldn't be applicable now.
@kazekage321414 But that's the thing, you are making assumptions that are totally false. Basically what you are saying is that the Black Guns look scary and shoot fast so they should be banned. It's people like you that are the reason why our gun laws are so screwed up.
@tr28901 What???? thats not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying big guns with big mags and big bullets can kill a lot more people than a handgun can. Which is entirely true. And our gun laws aren't screwed up, in the U.S. you can own almost any fire-arm you want with a license which is pretty much given to any hoodlum on the street. I mean what the else do you want, do you want a tank in your backyard, or a fucking cruise missile.
@kazekage321414 You are making false statements again. .22LR rifles have been and still are used around the world as sniper rifles. They are extremely effective in this role for multiple reasons. The 5.56×45mm, a relatively small round, was in part adopted by the U.S military because it's a high velocity yet tiny round and soldiers can carry more ammunition into battle.
You are just making stuff up and accepting it as fact because you just don't like guns.
@tr28901 LOL DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND ENGLISH, I DON't GIVE A SHIT THAT THERE WAS A GUN WITH A SMALL ROUND ADOPTED BY THE MILITARY THAT ALLOWED THEM TO CARRY MORE MUNITION THATS NOT WHAT THE FUCK IM TALKING ABOUT, IM TALKING ABOUT A GUY, A SERIAL KILLER WANTS TO MURDER A CROWD OF PEOPLE, AND HE WANTS A GUN, WITH A HANDGUN HE CAN MURDER LIKE 9 BEFORE HE HAS TO RELOAD AND IS JUMPED, WITH A MACHINE GUN HE CAN MURDER LIKE 30
@kazekage321414 OK lets ban all guns that can fire more then 1 round of ammunition. How exactly is that going to stop a criminal that acquired a fully automatic rifle illegally from murdering 30 people ?
I understand what you are saying but I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
@tr28901 you can never stop a criminal from illegally acquiring a automatic rifle, you can make it a lot harder for them, lets say the tuscon murderer was looking to get a gun, but he found that he couldn't buy anything more than a handgun, now he might go through illegal channels and to get his machine gun, but more likely he would would just take the handgun and used it, if the tuscon murder had used a handgun instead of a machine gun, some of those people may still be alive.
@jjcale1111 It gives no such right, but it clearly states in its Preamble that its purpose is to ensure the welfare of the American people. If you have a problem with that take it up with the Framers. They clearly believed that the gov't has a duty to look after the well-being of the people, and I agree.
You really believe that??? Do you also believe in the tooth fairy??
The US govt in the form of the CIA, DEA and ATF are the world biggest drug runners and gun runners.
Go do some research. Start with the Solyndra cartel in Mexico ... who were actually TRAINED by the US military.
TYT are shills like most of the media... youve go to do your own research... and dont listen to the folks in either party... even when they tell the truth its part of a bigger lie.
This guy must not have children, real idiot
penaranda86 4 days ago
Second ammendment isnt all about hunting moron
urodoctormr 6 days ago
Look up "ATF Plotted Against 2nd Amendment Using Fast and Furious"
Obama sealed the records on the "Fast and Furious" ATF operation. He's involved.
By the way, you are SUCH a pussy. MAN UP, DUDE.
JCG105 1 week ago
Just watched some more of this video. You're right about Wayne LaPierre, but damn you are a PUSSY!
MAN UP, YOU WIMP.
JCG105 1 week ago
You "Young Turks" have your heads in the clouds on firearms ownership and regulations. Rallying behind the facade of safety to hide the fact that you're a wimp is counter-productive. Go exercise your 2nd Amendment Rights, and quit fuckin' with mine.
JCG105 1 week ago
You want to know what the "other lies" are? Look at all the grand promises he made. Now look and see if he accomplished them. Enough said on that.
The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting, but since you're a liberal I am not surprised you are completely misguided. The 2nd Amendment is for protection, for the people to protect themselves from the aggressors and criminals of their society and a government that has become corrupted and out of control: much like this government.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 week ago
@Mr2ndAmendment "a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." That is the 2nd amdt word for word. This was written when the US didn't have a large, formal military, and had to rely on everyday people for the security of the state (i.e. for military purposes). It was also written when guns weren't nearly as deadly as they are today.
So you're kinda right.. but also completely misguided.
cmtsoccer9 2 days ago
@cmtsoccer9
You have obviously not read the Federalist Papers, or Common Sense, or read through Jefferson's and especially Washington's own personal quotes on the matter of individuals having guns. They used personally-owned firearms to create this country. Back then, everybody had a gun and knew how to use it and carried it with them within their possession at almost all times. The 2nd Amendment clearly means every person shall have the right to own firearms on an individual level.
Mr2ndAmendment 2 days ago
@Mr2ndAmendment I think we have different definitions of the word "clearly." The amendment itself is pretty vague, and regardless of the common practices back then, I think the interpretation of it is up for debate. I seem to have overlooked your user name though, before typing my last comment. so I have a feeling neither of us are going to budge on the issue.. later
cmtsoccer9 2 days ago
What a DORK !! The 2nd Amendment is NOT about hunting !! It's about AMERICANS being able to protect themselves from TYRANNY in their OWN GOV'T !! Just as AMERICANS did during the Revolutionary WAR !! Like Taxation w/out representation ! Like "deeming" bills passed, fast & furious was the first tentacles of the gun grab, blaming legal owners / dealers for the problem, immediately start floating the idea of more gun control.......
glehman01 1 week ago
The way you can tell when Obamination is lying. his mouth is open. Obama has usurped the Constitution and is anti American. You are stupid.
patnelaine 2 weeks ago
We don't need guns because every form of law enforcement will protect us when we need it right? Because evil doesn't exist right? This liberal crap makes me sick.....
josh3082 2 weeks ago
@josh3082 evil does exist.. and it has access to guns. that's the problem.
cmtsoccer9 2 days ago
I bet when you have some drug crazed murderer in your house ready to kill your stupid ass you would REALLY believe in gun ownership. If you don't like guns, move to MEXICO. I guarantee you won't have to deal with guns there. Not from law abiding citizens anyway. I am a law abiding citizen who owns AND carries a firearm on a daily basis. I will never harm a fellow human out of malice and I will NEVER surrender my second amendment right to please brain dead liberals !!
tchorses67 2 weeks ago
@tchorses67 Shouldnt you be more angry at Reagan putting that 1986 ban into law rather than Obama "not" touching guns at all?
Bronzecop 2 weeks ago
Wayne LaPierre is the Executive Vice President of the National Rifle Association, and John C. Siegler is the President of the National Rifle Association.
nraman4ever 2 weeks ago
1 term president. Obama is a loser.
Glock22ist 2 weeks ago
the young turks should change their name to the ignorant liberals.
lorderik237 1 month ago
the young turks are fucking morons and should be shot with my legal and highly powerful barrett .50, but, im a law abidding former navy seal who only dreams of putting retards out of REAL AMERICANS misery!
joeyfanof88hotmail 1 month ago
This guys so fuckin gay move to a new country if u dislike guns.
countrycracker22 1 month ago
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Everyone needs to be anti-gun! If you want a gun, join the army idiot. What we don't need are untrained, trigger happy civilians out there just waiting to use a gun during a violent conflict. If you morons want to carry a gun, join the police or armed forces. You see how effective carry a firearms is, violent crime is at an all time high. Civilians have NO justification for carrying any firearms. All this does is strokes their egos and makes them WANT to get involved in violent confrontations.
LAFD54 1 month ago
the reason y u didnt like shooting a gun is because ur a faggot
sammyjs1983 1 month ago
There is more to guns than just hunting....geez. Apparently he's never seen Top Shot...lol
igotjuice007 1 month ago
I sure hope this guy does not lobby against brocclli simply because he does not "get it". What a moron.
thisistotallydumbful 1 month ago
I'm an NRA member but yeah LaPierre is a nut case and I certainly don't support his nonsense. He;s just a republican pawn. I do think Obama has been doing a good job on this issue so far. I don't know what he's complaining about. The NRA is supposed to be a one issue lobby and they should get behind whoever does the right thing on that issue. Their are democratic politicians who aren't gun-grabbing loons and the NRA should support them.
ArchNME 2 months ago
1st person to touch my gun is getting a load of bird shot in the knee cap, ha try me will not give one fuck on who you are
Dakotadlb 2 months ago
lol mojo , you twat ..the NRA promote gun safety, hunter's rights ,sensiblegun legislation and the protection of the 2nd amendment ..for a $30 donation ,ANYONE can join the NRA they dont require a background check for new members ..as a percentage of those convicted for gun homicides ,i would BET that NRA members make up LESS than one percent ..want to bet me ?....hmmmm?
woodenmajor 2 months ago
2 million NRA members murder 10,000 Americans every year. They promote the proliferation of handguns and rifles with lies, propaganda, and fear. In Afghanistan they are called Taliban and Jihad. In America, NRA is all you need to know about homegrown terrorism.
mojosfun 2 months ago
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed..Why liberals should love the Second Amendment
by Kaili Joy Gray aka Angry Mouse
What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is so hard to understand ???
4everyong2 2 months ago
the 2nd amendment is NOT even slightly about "hunting " you odious, ignorant poltroon ..and btw, its becoming ever more obvious the this "fast and felonious operation " was merely a cynical political gambit to pad the numbers of narco crimes commited with legit US guns bought in border states ...thats right ,liberal "progressives " INTENTIONALLY armed the narco terrorists KNOWING that thousands of innocent mexicans and cops would die by those SAME guns its.hope and change ..comrade
woodenmajor 2 months ago
@woodenmajor, Legit sales. That is the problem. The NRA promotes the proliferation of guns and you NRA terrorist want to transport the carnage to Mexico. With Osama Bin Laden gone you NRA terrorist need to amp up the killing of Americans. VT cop, murdered by the NRA. The prior massacre there, murder by the NRA. The 2000 kids that get shot by guns, murdered by the NRA. No they were not murdered by spoons because guns kill people.
mojosfun 2 months ago
@guitarkram “I believe that Heller II . . is our most
significant loss in court to date.” Oct, 2011, a conservative
U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit issued a decisive
ruling in favor of strong gun laws, refusing to strike down Washington,
D.C.’s gun laws, which are among the strictest in the nation. The laws at issue were enacted by the District after that decision, and included registration requirements and a ban on assault weapons and assault clips.
mojosfun 2 months ago
@guitarkram, How do you make up this insipid blather? What do guns used by the military have to do with civilians having too many guns? You NRA people may get away with comparing apples to car tires when you are in each others' company but those of use with brains and knowledge know you are paranoid, impressionable, dull people who misinterprete the Constitution. Guns kill people; other objects are not as lethal or designed for this one thing. Handguns are made to kill.
mojosfun 3 months ago
@mojosfun "Handguns are made to kill."
Fucking brilliant observation skills there. We've established handguns are used to kill humans (actually they are used to hunt often but let's ignore that for the sake of argument) what now?
Why should they be banned? Why is it gospel to you anti-gunners that "Civilians should not own weapons designed to kill people"? Because I fail to see the self-evidence of that statement.
ihaterobbie123 2 months ago
@guitarkram But I like animals......
9Godslayer 3 months ago
A man with a valid concealed-weapon permit died after a semi-automatic pistol without an external safety discharged investigators have concluded.
The 45-year-old man was sitting in the front seat of his family's minivan in a shopping center parking lot on Sunday when his .40-caliber Glock discharged.
The detective thinks that in doing so in just grabbing it he inadvertently grabbed the trigger. The single shot struck the man in the hip, he bled to death in a matter of minutes. AN NRA FOOL. LOL
mojosfun 3 months ago
Before you gun owners get too wound up, you should bear in mind that there is no constitutional right to gun ownership. The second amendment states a right to bear arms only as part of a "well-organised militia". There is no constitutional right to own guns, carry guns or to keep them in your home. Only weaklings need them anyway, so grow up.
AlbortRoss 3 months ago
@AlbortRoss Yes their is the US supreme court ruled in 2008 in heller vs dc that the second amendment is an individual right to keep and bear arms outside service of a militia for lawful purposes such as self defence with in the home. In 2010 the supreme court ruled in mcdonald vs chicago that all state and local governments are subject to the second amendment. Both cases struck down bans on handguns. It says the right of the people, not the militia you didn't read it correctly.
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aeopmusic 3 months ago
@AlbortRoss
"ONLY WEAKLINGS NEED [FIREARMS]". Brilliant Mr. AlbortRoss. I totally agree with you about civilians owning guns with the exception of the following.
Unless you're a hunter or living in a demilitarized zone or urban ghetto, your possession of a gun is a direct indication of your personal insecurities be it an overinflated sense of danger, lack of "real" power in your daily life, or your small genitalia.
aeopmusic 3 months ago
@AlbortRoss Or to defend your family if the need arises. 2 doors down from me a man was tied up and robbed in his own home. If the situation arrises, that will not be me. If somebody approaches you with a knife or even a gun we will see what kind of weakling you are.
supermariodrums 3 months ago
Look at Obama's anti gun record. He supported complete bans on all handguns and semi automatic firearms. He opposes right to carry laws and he favors a federal ban on conceal carry. He opposes good honest americans using firearms in self-defence. He supports the repeal of the tiahrt amendment to allow reckless lawsuites to sue gun manufactors into bankruptcy. Theres many more, the man is a lying crook I don't trust him with my freedom I can't wait to vote him out in 2012.
1matsg 3 months ago
You should move to England and when riots break out, you will get your ass beat because only criminals will have guns and you will have a baseball bat. Moron!
passionforguns 3 months ago
Personally I can NEVER handle a gun- not after what happened when I was 5YO.
Mom was cleaning her handgun in the kitchen & left it on the table to answer the phone. Thinking it was a toy, I picked it up, pointed it at her back & fired. I had to watch 2hrs of her agony, her life slowly ebbing away before me. Ever since, I have lived with the guilt of killing of both my mother AND my sister (Mom was 7 months pregnant at the time).
Certainly Dad has never forgiven me & we don’t speak today.
SuperTruth77 3 months ago
Don't people that use guns to commit crimes or murders usually get them illegally anyway? What's the point of having very strict gun laws if it makes it harder for regular citizens from obtaining weapons legitimately to protect themselves from robbers, governments, or zombies? Anything with guns, I rather have Wes Clark Jr. talk about it than Michael Shure. There was this one time where I couldn't purchase a gun because I don't own a house. I was like "When the fuck did this bullshit law pass?"
2anime4ever 3 months ago
The Young Turds Dead bodies of US agents with guns from Fast & Furious with hard factual evidence at the scene & a massive investigation with the DOJ black out redaction of almost every single page of subpoena material & absolutely no straight answers
from any of the people questioned & them claiming none of them shared info or investigated the botched crimes or dead agents is all a conspiracy plot to oust "black men" in power positions . I guess The Young Turds are "coincidence theorists"
hounddog183 4 months ago
If you take away the guns from the people you make them victims of the criminals who will always manage to get guns anyway. Without a gun you are a sitting duck. All you gun control chinks need to ask yourself what would you do when an armed criminal is trying to break through your door. Going to let him rape your 6 year old? Your wife? Well, you're just gonna have to sit there and watch if he and his buddy have guns. Got it. Think about it.
matwil74 4 months ago
Michael Shure is a Neo Liberal logie. If you don't like Americans having guns then you just need to pack up your bags and move to another country or maybe Chicago. Strictest guns laws in the country and one of the highest crime rates too.
matwil74 4 months ago
why does anybody watch this crap
tk4227 4 months ago
@cjbos81 Your an idiot.
JustPlaneNuts 4 months ago
@JustPlaneNuts Great comeback!
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I don't like to hunt, yet when all is said and done I don't want the ONLY one with guns to be the GOVERNMENT. I don't think the government is some great evil that needs to be feared, but IF something bad were to happen we'd be fucked if they were the only ones holding the weapons.
Thayer79 4 months ago
1:14 - IN THE EVENT OF LOSING YOUR MIND,
YOUR GUN CAN BE USED AS AN EAVESDROPPING DEVICE
dukenthaylor 4 months ago
Do you people denying this video realize that the "Operation Fast an Furious" scandal has been known about for months and is now hitting the mainstream news?
tehdouglas1 4 months ago
guns are not protected uder our constitution for HUNTING it is for the ability to overthrow a tyranical government. rebellion is still illegal but he ability to start one is not guns should not be resricted from good law abiding citizens
woget264 4 months ago
@tr28901 Do you really even need guns? I mean really, Peace doesn't come fired from a chamber!
DevilDiablo546 4 months ago
I completely agree with him. What the fuck is wrong with people are than them being sadists. We live in times where e dont need to hunt for our food. We can buy it. So if you eliminate the reason to hunt other than for sheer fascination, then there's something wrong with you. If you feel spiritually elevated by blowing something's head off, then it's obvious you have no moral compass, and you have a LOOOOONG way to go as a recognised good person.
Domzdream 4 months ago
LoL, this guy has no proof at all of any of his claims. Utter bullshit.
JCRF 5 months ago
@JCRF now they do watch the news n read a news paper it's called fast and furious atf handled it holder oked it n u know obama knew bout it
nitewolf89 4 months ago
This Hippie is out of his F*#King MIND.
xSladex 5 months ago
Can this "guy" even read? The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or sports, typical spin from shills. Is he also clueless towards Obama's voting record in the past, as well as his entire cabinet including Rahm Emanuel wanted to implement a no-fly-no-buy list for those on the no fly list cannot purchase a gun; no due process, no judge or jury.
MidNiteR32 5 months ago 2
Who the hell would believe this NRA retard?
MrExcellcior 5 months ago 2
The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with target shooting or hunting. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is designed to rein in government tyranny.The ultimate ck and balance.
AthenasConquest 5 months ago
@taz69x look up invention secrecy act, anything the government wants to deem "national security" they can take it without compensation, even if you live in another country and are a natural born U.S. citizen. There is my biggest one. I have a list. They can do what ever they want! But they know if the natives are restless they would more than have their hands full. Intellutal property rights? Not hardly! So when do it end?
dynzyg 5 months ago
wtf is wrong with Conservatives and guns in the US?
I'm Canadian; I hunt; I own rifles and a handgun. I don't get a b0ner over them though, or indulge in batshit fantasy or walk around with them.
TAz69x 5 months ago
Lol I hear some of the comments "you just want to hold on to your guns" I really hafto lol over that, I enjoy the freedom this country has, and day by day law by law it is being striped and torn down. I just have one more thing to say and then I'll let you guys argue til you are blue in the face. The very freedoms you enjoy are not even counted as a blessing. I fought and my brothers in arms died for freedom. Little bit at a time? Soon what you fight for will be next, what then? Think about that
dynzyg 5 months ago
@dynzyg Which freedoms have you been stripped of that you're referring to?
TAz69x 5 months ago
Well when Project Gun Runner occurs, it's not much of a tough sell to say there is a conspiracy going on. But I guess that's not a fact the left really wants to look at.
CitrusLizard 5 months ago
It's what he THINKS not what he ACTUALLY DOES... Fucking gun nuts.
JoeDull 5 months ago
Whren the Founders wrote the second ammendment, I don't think they had assault rifles in mind.
atheistphilosopher 5 months ago
@atheistphilosopher No they definitely didn't have assault rifles in mind when they wrote the constitution. They thought that their wimpy little muzzle loaders that could punch a water melon sized hole threw a mans chest at over a mile was as far as Gun technology would ever get.
tr28901 5 months ago
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If Jared Laughner had a knife I think they would have been able to stop him before he killed nine people.
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If Jared Laughner had a knife I think they would have been able to stop him before he killed nine people.
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@usyno, your kidding right? Loopholes? What loopholes? Anyone can get a gun illegally are you kidding money talks, this is nothing but restrictions on responsible gun owners. Who cares if you go to a gun show and sell one, the new owner has taken the gun, kind of like a car, someone runs you over with a car are you going to go to the prevous owner? Ford? Chevy? Your point goes nowhere! Enforce the laws already on the books!!
dynzyg 5 months ago
I could care less about bush,or any other dope in the government,enforceing the laws that are already on the books takes care of things just fine! Enforcement of the laws goes for everyone!! Did you hear of anyone in the last 4years go to prison for any of the "investagations" in mexico? Nope, how about them being ordered to brake the law? If you or I did that there would be all kinds of stories all over every possible media! Get the point? Adgenda! This is not the end not by a long shot
dynzyg 5 months ago
Wow I can't belive how ignorant people are of the law,my father is a retired police capitain, decorated, and has rare guns, tons of them.collectors items. What threat is he? None, why? Law abiding? Yes! Doesn't matter if you have 5 or 500 of them, you held accountable if they are used in a crime. If I want to go out and buy 100 guns it doesn't matter, I have had my background checked and the guns numbers are on file. Point it is none of anyones business how many I have. The police know! Already!
dynzyg 5 months ago
The NRA is worst than the drug cartels.I have nothing against the 2nd amendment,but the gun loop holes have to stop,and it seems like the NRA is ok with that and oh by the way these same people stood very close with the Bush administration.
Useyno 5 months ago
The NRA is worst than the drug cartels.I have nothing against the 2nd amendment,but the gun loop holes have to stop,and it seems like the NRA is ok with that and oh by the way these same people stood very close with the Bush administration.
Useyno 5 months ago
Last time I checked 13 yr old could not buy guns in the US? Once again people kill people. If the kid didn't have a gun he would have a knife or bat and wait for you to leave your house and club you to death. Fix the reason why there are gangs! No jobs no money no parents no education? No guns? WTF
MrFlyTWA 5 months ago
Gun laws or any law for that matter is not written by the common man anymore,it is written by government which is now completely in corprate,bankers pockets, it will not be long, it's is going on right now,confescations without warrent,searches without warrent, permits don't mean anything. It's common knowledge nothing new! They sell guns to the drug cartels openly, but only to get an excuse to take law abiding U.S. citizens guns. No conflict means easy control pure and simple
dynzyg 5 months ago
@eldogg4life I can safely say that I hate you in the same way I can safely say that I hate paedophiles.
There is no ignorance, it's a moral position.
zebbedi 5 months ago
@zebbedi They brake the law and you hate them for it. I abide by the law and you hate me for it. Sounds completely reasonable to me... Your moral position is hate and you admit to that??? Fine, Conversation is over.
eldogg4life 5 months ago
@eldogg4life Actually, In my country you would be breaking the law. The age of sexual consent in Mexico is 12, if a fully grown man sleeps with a 12 year old in Mexico it's legal but in my eyes it's still paedophilia and I still hate them for it. I think peoples actions define them. Anybody who wants to own a weapon capable of such damage would likely be prepared to use it, therefore they are prepared to commit murder. I think that is as far away from civilised society as you can get.
zebbedi 5 months ago
Layer upon layer of regulations, more and more rights taken away at the stroke of a pin,why? One word fear! Pure and simple! Take the means of someone to defend themselves and make them dependent on more government, but it's too late to call the police when you are dying bleeding to death, while you watch your wife and/or children and then killed, take away gun rights you take away criminals fear of commiting the crime, they get guns reguardless of what laws are on the books, life is defence.
dynzyg 5 months ago
@dynzyg Listen, I agree that law biding citizens should be able to own pretty much any gun they want . But our current laws that allow someone to buy a dozen hand guns and then "lose" them only to come back a week later and buy another dozen are fucking retarded. This is the reason cities like mine (Oakland) are flooded with 13 year old gang bangers packing heat. Is your right to own an unlimited # of guns more importants than my right to not have to sleep in my bathtub to avoid stray bullets?
durhamdf 5 months ago
@dynzyg Listen, I agree that law biding citizens should be able to own pretty much any gun they want . But our current laws that allow someone to buy a dozen hand guns and then "lose" them only to come back a week later and buy another dozen are fucking retarded. This is the reason cities like mine (Oakland) are flooded with 13 year old gang bangers packing heat. Is your right to own an unlimited # of guns more importants than my right to not have to sleep in my bathtub to avoid stray bullets?
durhamdf 5 months ago
@durhamdf This is what drives me nuts, the solution to this problem is right in front of every ones face but when the powers that be and those ignorant about guns try to fix the problem all they do is take away law abiding gun owners rights. There is a flip side those as well. The gun nuts, usually toothless backwoods hicks that still can't even figure out how a Velcro shoes work wants 0 regulation and get all pissy about even registering a firearm.
tr28901 5 months ago
@tr28901 Exactly, I like shooting guns as much as the next guy but we need to realize that our right to be free from any govt. intervention in our lives is trumped by the need to keep cities like mine from turning into war zones where some teenager gets killed every other night. I'm not saying we need to make it impossible for law biding citizens to purchase a gun, just that we need to make sure that those who buy guns aren't just turning around and selling them to gangs or mexican cartels
durhamdf 5 months ago
@durhamdf And this line of thinking drives me even more nuts. Those kids in your city that are getting shot every night, they are not getting shot with firearms that were purchased legally. They are getting shot with firearms that were purchased in under ground markets. I use to live in Chicago where all hand guns are banned. The crime rate went up and specifically hand gun related crimes went threw the roof. It created a huge market for under ground weapons...
tr28901 5 months ago
@durhamdf I lived in Chicago and i have seen first hand what strict gun laws do... NOTHING ! Gun related crimes and murder went threw the roof after the hand gun ban was implemented here. It created huge under ground market for weapons and now we are seeing more fully automatic assault weapons being smuggled into the city. Gun laws and regulations need to target the criminals and not law abiding gun owners.
tr28901 5 months ago
@tr28901 Listen, I live in Oakland california, we have 0 gun stores in our city and yet we consistently have one of the highest murder rates in the country. Why? Because a citywide ban is useless when: A. you can go across town and buy a gun in another city. B. The people we care about getting guns are already getting these guns illegally on the black market, what do they care. I am not suggesting any gun bans, I am suggesting we stop the black market with better enforcement of our current laws.
durhamdf 5 months ago
@durhamdf That's the thing, our current laws do nothing to stop criminals from getting weapons on the black markets. All they do is make it harder for law abiding citizens to purchase and own guns. No one buy's a gun using their name then goes and commits a crime with it. Criminals don't buy guns from gun shops so any laws that have to do with limiting the sale and purchasing or owning a gun bought from a gun store does nothing to stop the criminal element from getting and using firearms.
tr28901 5 months ago
@tr28901 Where do you think those black market guns come from my friend? Canada? LOL. Our black market, which fuels the mexican cartels and the countless American street gangs, comes from local gun shops all across the U.S.. It seems pretty fucking stupid that with this big a problem facing our country a man can still buy an unlimited number of firearms and not even register them in many states. I think it is fine for someone to own even an AK, but does anyone need hundreds of handguns?
durhamdf 5 months ago
@durhamdf First off, every gun you buy is registered. 2nd, The U.S is not the only country that makes guns. A lot guns used in crimes are foreign knock offs. There are many ways to get gun's illegally and The gun shop, for the most part, is not one of them.
What i am trying to get into you to understand is that most gun laws affect law abiding gun owners. Most gun laws do nothing to stop or get firearms out of the hands of criminals.
tr28901 5 months ago
@tr28901 No I am pretty positive that you don't have to register handguns in most states especially if it is a second party transfer and not from a licensed dealer. They DO have to conduct a background check. Lol foreign knockoffs? Just look at the Mexican Drug Cartels almost every weapon they find at murder scenes in Mexico can be traced back to the U.S.. We are the cheap gun industry! And why would it matter if they are foreign? They still get sold in U.S. stores legally with few limitations.
durhamdf 5 months ago
@durhamdf By foreign knock off i mean something like a Walther P99 and a Smith & Wesson SW99. something that can be bought outside the U.S & smuggled in.
Anyway, the transfer thing,i don't the the specifics so I'm not going to comment on it. My understanding how ever is you need a FFL dealer to transfer firearms. I think what you are talking about is the gun show loophole ? Another topic i don't know the specifics of. I do know that is a problem & where a lot weapons are obtained illegally.
tr28901 5 months ago
@tr28901 WHy would we smuggle in weapons that are legal for sale here? THat is absolute giberish. And why would you sneak weapons into the largest gun manufacturing country on the planet? We export almost 100 times more guns than we import. And I wasn't taking about the gun show loophole which I believe they closed. I in most states you don't have to register a handgun (just Cali/NY), just need a background check and to wait. Most states don't even do a mental health background check
durhamdf 4 months ago
@durhamdf Many reasons. Off the top of my head, Fully automatic AK47's can be bought in some parts of the world for $10 U.S or less. They can then be smuggled in and sold for... A lot ! I don't know specifics but i do know the pre-ban AK's can legally sell for over $15K.
As for the gun show loophole, Ya, they fixed that all right.
tr28901 4 months ago
To all those anti-hunters I can respect your opinion but only if you are a vegetarian. If you eat meat and are an anti-hunter then the respect goes out the door. I work in Service Industry and have had to work on equipment in slaughter house. These farm raised animals live a far more cruel life and suffer far more than any animal I have harvested. I hated to see any animal suffer. At least the meat on my table had chance to be free, reproduce and breath fresh air, but of best of all it didn't h
MrFlyTWA 5 months ago
To NaziGOPBallmer,
When riots broke in the UK could the people defend themselves when the Police refused to help at the beginning. If we lived in a perfect world yes we would not need guns but until then I'll keep mine. If the law enforcement would do there jobs we would not need any new regulations. With or without guns, people kill people a gun is just a tool, no different than a knife, bomb or even a rock. Are we going to take away rocks and knives from people?
MrFlyTWA 5 months ago
It's obvious that there strong feelings on both sides of gun rights and hunting. I can relate to both sides. Yes I am pro-gun and a hunter. My guns are available to me so I can protect family and property. They also used to harvest meat for my family. I do not take any animal for sport, only to feed my family. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Humans are predators, with or without guns look at History. Swords, rocks, sticks?
MrFlyTWA 5 months ago
FUCKIN SMART.
Tazmainiac9 5 months ago
I wish these gun nuts with put their money where there mouth is, lube up they're tiny cocks and fuck one of the 15 guns they have in they're basement because there father was a psychotic and his father's father was psycotic
bunkmasterflex 5 months ago
@fu699 Obviously you misread the definition of logic, cus' i've got it.. well enough for you and me both thats for sure.. which is good though, cus' you contain very little at the most. At least i can say I don't get joy out of taking life away, cus' that shits just fucked up and I'm better off this way.
DirtyAtreyu 5 months ago
I bought two rifles last month, and I got a call and a letter from the atf here in Cali. Why do my guns have to be registered with the atf? That is totally unconstitutional,and Obama signed that order to be sent to all gun dealers in CA, AZ, TX, NM, AR. The dealer showed me that shit, and I was in total shock!!!! He is a fucking lire!!!!!!
33foxfire 5 months ago
Well, someone is clearly cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
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AnotherNutJob 5 months ago
@iamtheprototype Shit man you must have some issues being able to watch an animal suffer for almost 2minutes, how fucked up is u?
Peasant001 5 months ago
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@MCsuperChristina Interesting opinion, however I would like to read your answer to the question I addressed. What would you advice a nation to do in order to defend themselves against genocide and to oppose being forced into concentration camps? Imagine if you will, that you were asked to advice the nation on how to resist at last resort. -- I highly recommend a film titled "Innocents Betrayed", by the Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. Live Long & take care - Mike.
MikeAlexanderNewell 5 months ago
@MCsuperChristina Interesting opinion, however I would like to read your answer to the question I addressed. What would you advice a nation to do in order to defend themselves against genocide and to oppose being forced into concentration camps? Imagine if you will, that you were asked to advice the nation on how to resist at last resort. -- I highly recommend a film titled "Innocents Betrayed", by the Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. Live Long & take care - Mike.
MikeAlexanderNewell 5 months ago
gunlovers are insecure idiots.
mattbau76 5 months ago
honestly....i wished they banned all guns in the CITY but not in the Country
cuevas04 5 months ago
@cuevas04 So you dont have a gun but the criminal does how does that work in your favor. Sorry to tell you I can go by a gun in five minutes on the street and can rob somebody in five minutes but damn if I'm would go in to a house or up to a person I new or thought might have a gun. I'm looking for you the easy target. But at least you stuck to your guns. LOL I'll stick to mine and see who's walking away at the end.
fu699 5 months ago
TYT should be embarrised for not even knowing that LaPierre is talking about Obamas illegally imposing Mexican boarder states firearm dealers new regulations on multiple firearm purchases. Since that is not something you will hear about on TV, Most retard sheeple think it diden't happen,
DKPrepper 5 months ago
Let's distribute guns, bring them to grocery, then execute murderers,
but please do not abort!
jimalbi 5 months ago
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jimalbi 5 months ago
For a country that is willing to sacrifice its freedom for security. It is ironic that a lot of people have died to make sure we live in a free nation.
smokescreen767 5 months ago
For a country that is willing to sacrifice its freedom for security. It is ironic that a lot of people have died to make sure we live in a free nation.
smokescreen767 5 months ago
guns saved Switzerland from the Nazis, and thats just one reason we need them, to protect us from foreign governments and domestic . and common hunting controls animal population
zombiesack 5 months ago
Of all of the things my fellow conservatives and I dislike about the President, his treatment of the 2nd Amendment doesn't even come to mind. I'm sure, that if provided a majority in Congress that voted in another Assault Weapons Ban, he would sign it, but President Obama really doesn't seem too bothered by my right to bear arms. I regretfully deliver this ad hominem, but I think Wayne is showing the beginning symptoms of Alzheimer's
nickburnin8 5 months ago
You know Your tax monies to buy guns to give to violent Mexican drug cartels that operate over our borders. Not ending drug war...fail. while you are at it Martial Artists need their arms and legs chopped off since they have potential to kill with them. Bush3.0bama sux like tyt propagandists.
BrokenSentence 5 months ago
You know Your tax monies to buy guns to give to violent Mexican drug cartels that operate over our borders. Not ending drug war=fail. while you are at it Martial Artists need their arms and legs chopped off since they have potential to kill with them. Bush3.0bama sux like tyt propagandists.
BrokenSentence 5 months ago
hunting controls dear population. with our guns no country can occupy us , including the UN and NATO. look at Switzerland gun laws and how it saved them durring WW2. criminals will always have guns that they get from somewhere , not the store
zombiesack 5 months ago
@DeepSouth16 I live in Iceland. The cops in Iceland don't carry guns.
sigurjong 5 months ago
@sigurjong That's good, because they are probably drunk as hell.
ZombiedustXXX 5 months ago
No one hunts for food with a an a semi-automatic, unless you are a cannibal. Let's get real people. This is such a bogus argument that the NRA uses.
FlatulenceFox 5 months ago
I'd also like to add: The 18th Amendment, the prohibition of alcohol, makes much more sense in modern times than the 2nd Amendment - therefore, if the 18th Amendment can be repealed, so can the 2nd Amendment.
BrandonSchleifer 5 months ago
The 21st Amendment of the US Constitution repeals the 18th Amendment. This is because the constitution is not designed to be dictatorial, but is designed to be fluid - as time and circumstance changes, amendments can be added or repealed. The Constitution was designed to be questioned and changed! In other words, the constitution is suppose to be written by logic! Once the reason for any Amendment is no longer significant, that Amendment is no longer significant!
BrandonSchleifer 5 months ago
@DeepSouth16 Why don't I have a right to own a car? Are all rights explicitly spelled out in the Constitution? Yes, we have the right to bear arms, but the Amendment starts with "A well regulated militia...". I think you meant a fee to talk, not a fine and speech doesn't have the same potential for harm as gun ownership.
AnnRKey 5 months ago
if i go and shoot a dog, cut off his head, mount it on my wall,and then cook and eat the remains it is considered animal crulity. but if i do the same with a deer it is considerd a sport and is perfectly legal. WTF!
thecrazymike12 5 months ago
@piklweezl Population control through hunting is an hard and menial task and should best be done by the person who owns the land.
595o 5 months ago
The only thing I hate more than guns are the people that carry them.
sigurjong 5 months ago
If you hunt for your own food that is fine, hunting just for 'fun' I don't agree with.
IndicaDreaming 5 months ago
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think there has ever been an attempt to ban rifles designed for hunting. Moreover, the Second Amendment is not about hunting, it's about security. It's also one of the few times that regulation is mentioned in the Constitution. I think gun ownership should be regulated. Every state requires a license to drive a car, why not a license to have a gun?
AnnRKey 5 months ago
@DeathtoRaiden1
You can gtfo too. You aren't even 1/16th the intellect of our founding fathers yet you proclaim to know betterr than them how a free man should live. Your name will never be on a document as important and timeless as our constitution. You have a delusional personality that makes you believe you are right, regardless of thousands of years of human history that set the stage for ouur constitution. Get over yourself.
btwicked 5 months ago
@capucchan8 Your english is poor, it's hard to make out your meaning. Obama appointed Holder, you should look up the job definition of President. Unlike democratically elected governments the President rules as a king. Bush tried to put a legal secretary on the supreme court, it's madness.
nilbud 5 months ago
@nilbud Oliver North was not part of the Reagan administration, yet the Iran Contras scandal was attributed to his administration as they allowed those events to take place, same thing applies to the Obama administration, you wanna talk about madness how about the charlatan who came in promising change but assembled an economic team consisting of the same people who pushed for the financial deregulation that led to the financial crises
capucchan8 5 months ago
@nilbud as for my English let my write this clearly, if this operation fast and furious had happened under Bush would you then argue that the ATF is not part of the administration? you seem to be one of Obama's fanatical fundamentalist fans who excuse everything he does
capucchan8 5 months ago
I use to watch this YouTube channel but they are sounding more and more like FoxNews. As for Mr. Shure he need to do a little research before he sticks his foot in his or should I say Obama's dick in his mouth. You should move the he'll out of my Country and go to the UK you communist bastard. Look how having no guns works for them.
MrFlyTWA 5 months ago
@MrFlyTWA
" Look how having no guns works for them."
That's nothing compared with the gun violence in the US for the lack of regulation.
NaziGOPBallmer 5 months ago
Okay fuck hunters I want to protect the rights of myself I may not agree with this guy but you morons that want to disarm law abiding citizens can gtfo.
harr77 5 months ago
@harr77 I hate hunters also, even though i have hunted and do on rare occasions. I believe it will be a very useful skill in the relatively near future. That being said, the overwhelming majority of hunters are nothing more then sadistic pricks.
tr28901 5 months ago
The NRA has`always used FEAR, HATE, LIES and RACISM to get members and donations just like the fascist neocon republicans. Obama could care less about your guns.
Twostones00 5 months ago
You fucking assholes! He never made fun of "guns and religion". He was asked about what he thought about the joblessness in middle America. And he answered that when you have no fucking jobs you tend to cling to your guns and religion. What was soooo bad about that? As a rallying cry people where like "It's true Mr. President, we DO cling to our guns and our god!" Ok? If it was so wrong then why do you AGREE that that is in fact the case?! What a bunch of whiney lil snotty brats on the Right!
MikeNitro94 5 months ago
2008: "OBAMA IS GOING TO REMOVE THE 2ND AMENDMENT THE SKY IS FALLING OH MY GOD SOCIALISM SOCIALISM SOCIALISM"
2009, Obama's first year in office: He works to give us the ability to conceal carry firearms in all National Parks, it passes into law
February 2010: National Park CCW law kicks into effect, thus expanding gun rights
2011: "HIS FIRST TERM WAS JUST A TRICK HE IS REALLY GONNA DO IT THIS TIME IF WE ELECT HIM AGAIN THE SKY IS FALLING SOCIALISM SOCIALISM SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!"
metalfaust19 5 months ago 11
I'm all for people owning guns but when you associate yourself with a group like this I can only assume that you are insane and therefore you shouldn't own one.
TheNouvelleNoir 5 months ago
Perhaps you should read a bit about the president and his AG's plan to try to manufacture evidence of illegal gun sales to Mexican Cartels with operation Fast and Furious, which has gotten American's killed through their ineptitude? Or his agreement with Brady to use a Presidential order to sidestep congress? Or just look at his record with the Illinois state senate. His administration is decidedly anti 2nd Amendment.
hot4amish 5 months ago
Horrible video way to closed minded.
agcerrillo 5 months ago
I love guns, and absolutely hate the NRA.
AssRapingHorseCock 5 months ago
anybody can own a pistol with two magizines, if your a licensed gun owner with no history of crime, and a good purpose for owning the guns, you can have more... if your stockpiling light machine guns and rpgs cause you like that they can kill someone from 500 meters away with one bullet then your a dangerous idiot
kazekage321414 5 months ago
@kazekage321414 It's so frustrating listening to people who don't have the slightest clue about guns condemn them and make wildly inaccurate claims.
tr28901 5 months ago
@tr28901 Its frustrating that I was obviously exaggerating. I don't know the exact stats about guns, I don't know exactly at what range one bullet to the chest is enough to kill. I know that if you bring a gun with a 100 bullet clip, it can kill a lot more people than a gun with 15 bullet clip, because usually, people jump you when your reloading. The 2nd amendment was passed in a time, where you shot one round and then it would take 10 seconds at least to reload, it shouldn't be applicable now.
kazekage321414 5 months ago
@kazekage321414 But that's the thing, you are making assumptions that are totally false. Basically what you are saying is that the Black Guns look scary and shoot fast so they should be banned. It's people like you that are the reason why our gun laws are so screwed up.
tr28901 5 months ago
@tr28901 What???? thats not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying big guns with big mags and big bullets can kill a lot more people than a handgun can. Which is entirely true. And our gun laws aren't screwed up, in the U.S. you can own almost any fire-arm you want with a license which is pretty much given to any hoodlum on the street. I mean what the else do you want, do you want a tank in your backyard, or a fucking cruise missile.
kazekage321414 5 months ago
@kazekage321414 You are making false statements again. .22LR rifles have been and still are used around the world as sniper rifles. They are extremely effective in this role for multiple reasons. The 5.56×45mm, a relatively small round, was in part adopted by the U.S military because it's a high velocity yet tiny round and soldiers can carry more ammunition into battle.
You are just making stuff up and accepting it as fact because you just don't like guns.
tr28901 5 months ago
@tr28901 LOL DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND ENGLISH, I DON't GIVE A SHIT THAT THERE WAS A GUN WITH A SMALL ROUND ADOPTED BY THE MILITARY THAT ALLOWED THEM TO CARRY MORE MUNITION THATS NOT WHAT THE FUCK IM TALKING ABOUT, IM TALKING ABOUT A GUY, A SERIAL KILLER WANTS TO MURDER A CROWD OF PEOPLE, AND HE WANTS A GUN, WITH A HANDGUN HE CAN MURDER LIKE 9 BEFORE HE HAS TO RELOAD AND IS JUMPED, WITH A MACHINE GUN HE CAN MURDER LIKE 30
kazekage321414 5 months ago
@kazekage321414 OK lets ban all guns that can fire more then 1 round of ammunition. How exactly is that going to stop a criminal that acquired a fully automatic rifle illegally from murdering 30 people ?
I understand what you are saying but I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
tr28901 5 months ago
@tr28901 you can never stop a criminal from illegally acquiring a automatic rifle, you can make it a lot harder for them, lets say the tuscon murderer was looking to get a gun, but he found that he couldn't buy anything more than a handgun, now he might go through illegal channels and to get his machine gun, but more likely he would would just take the handgun and used it, if the tuscon murder had used a handgun instead of a machine gun, some of those people may still be alive.
kazekage321414 5 months ago
@kazekage321414 He DID use a handgun. Glock 17, look it up.
JCRF 5 months ago
@armyveteran101st The US constitutioni gives no such right... c'mon surely you know better than that.
jjcale1111 5 months ago
@jjcale1111 It gives no such right, but it clearly states in its Preamble that its purpose is to ensure the welfare of the American people. If you have a problem with that take it up with the Framers. They clearly believed that the gov't has a duty to look after the well-being of the people, and I agree.
armyveteran101st 5 months ago
You really believe that??? Do you also believe in the tooth fairy??
The US govt in the form of the CIA, DEA and ATF are the world biggest drug runners and gun runners.
Go do some research. Start with the Solyndra cartel in Mexico ... who were actually TRAINED by the US military.
TYT are shills like most of the media... youve go to do your own research... and dont listen to the folks in either party... even when they tell the truth its part of a bigger lie.
I am no NRA fan BTW.
jjcale1111 5 months ago