Forza Motorsport 3 vs Need for Speed Shift (Maserati MC12)

[habsfan13524]

if anyone here thinks that any game ever released with need for speed in the title is a simulation game then :

A: you have never driven a real car

B: you are a "in the famous words of Zach Galifianakis Ruh Tard "

C: all of the above

thank you and have a nice day :D

[PivotBlimp]

LMAO!!!!!!!!! Forza looks so boring and plain next to NFS Shift. This is one reason I prefer Shift, the cockpit view effects are simply amazing...

[maingeniero]

The graphic motion of FM3 is so poor in comparison with NFS-S, the physics in NFS are so much better programed than FM3, the graphic design is so much better en NFS-S and thus i guess the Need For Speed Shift game is more near to the simulation standard than forza motorsport 3

[96crisadi]

I like Shift. I really do. But it just isn't the simulator I was expecting it to be. All the cars are wobbly and hard - if not annoying - to control; I've had a FWD Cobalt SS slide in Shift, as if it was RWD. I was like "What?"

Sure, FM3 doesn't have that epic cockpit shake, but overall is better IMO.

[kjetilsnus]

shift looks better, but forza is the best game of these two..

[murfad]

forza looks like youre driving on rails or hovering above the track. shifts cockpit-view is much more vivid and realistic. minus the blur when you hit something...

[KPKonliner]

forza is more realistic,in nfs shift,the car's steer is lack of precision and the traction is too fictional compare to forza

[blueprophet9]

NFSS makes FM3 cockpit view and racing experience look like complete shit. Maybe gramps will give FM3 a go...it's more his speed.

[HoveringAboveMyself]

To the ones saying Shift is realistic because is hard, that doesn't mean anything, specially if you can enter a turn making a perfect drift even with racecars, in real life if a racecar loses traction doing that is only going to crash

Also he used the MC12 not the MC12 GT1, using all the aids too, believe me, controlling a GT1 in Forza without assist is very hard, attack a turn too fast and you will be spinning, accelerate too much at the exit of a turn and you'll be spinning too, for example.

[DJKHOTTA]

im sorry but, are we watching the same vid? i saw a lot of comments sayin that nfs shift is not realistic,but,what you see in forza 3 is more contrast,thats because of the polarized in nfs shift car.

Put attention to the street and its borders,in some places forza 3 streets looks like plastified.

[SPAZZY1912]

the problem with shift is that

the cars feel way too light in the game, it doesnt take alot to flip an opponent,

for example,

i was driving my R35, and i was ramming into an R34 from the back, suddenly the R34 just goes over my windscreen.

i watched the replay, and i couldnt believe it.

and sometimes ur car just randomedly bounces when u turn into a corner, its a glitch

[whackyronu]

@SPAZZY1912 true , but it's nice that you need to have skills to control them. Forza is to easy my opinion

[whackyronu]

simulation ???? did you even try cockpit view in fz3. simulation??? Damn it looks like testdrive 2 for amiga 500 . RACING CARS ARE NERVOUS ON TRACK ALSO IN REAL.. i think shift did a good job with that. it's more real sorry!!!, that's simulation.

[sddrifting]

@whackyronu need for speed shift is garbage sure the cockpit view is better in shift but thats it. just look at the facs. forza 3 has over 400 cars and 100 tracks while nfs has 40cars and 12tracks. nfs is garbage. The cars dont feel realistic at all. u can floor a 700 hp camaro in nfs and it will understeer u do that is forza and u get wheel spin which is realistic. The cars in nfs are cheap feeling too, they all feel like there WAY TOO LIGHT... there also to easy to flip

[HUGOMSYRIO]

@sddrifting i am waiting for grand turismo to come out....it will have over 1000 cars lol and the graphics are insane and there will be damage this time!

[KillerForever12]

@sddrifting cmon this is the first time shift make that kind of games give them a chance O_O

[whackyronu]

FZ3 IS BORING. Racefans want action = NFS shift

[arielitogato]

@whackyronu actually, forza is a simulator, and doesn't try to be an ''action'' race game.

if u want to play Forza, is cuz u like simulation, not action :D

[Z4kAtak]

I would hope SHIFT has better cockpits, it has 1/8th of the cars for christ sakes!

[Jace1283xmod]

shift would be good, but the bogus physics ruins it

[Dr4gonfly70]

Am i the only one who deadly dislikes that every car slides in every corner on every track in need for speed shift? its unplayable with a steering wheel, lol

[levelvtl]

Cockpit on Shift is better, bit Forza 3 is more realistic. Forza win for my opinion...

[levelvtl]

Hum....? loll But yeah, I agree ;)

[sidewindermelon]

@wildbloodydragon um no the other way round dick wad forza is the sim ... shift is a need for speed track day game ( shit ) they shudda stuck 2 street racing

[wildbloodydragon]

@sidewindermelon ummm no dickwad ( shit ) you shudda red my comment first

[whackyronu]

@wildbloodydragon HELL YEAH!!!!

[whackyronu]

@wildbloodydragon best opinion, hell yeah!!

[URsuckishATlife]

@wildbloodydragon Physics wise Forza 3 has the upper hand but I guess Shift's cockpit view effects give it a very subtle and realistic feel.

[wildbloodydragon]

@URsuckishATlife I don't find them very subtle, to be perfectly honest. But yes, where shift (and shift 2) lack in polish, they make up for in the overall experience.

I've played Forza before. And I got bored every time after a few minutes of playing the game. It wasn't the game's fault, I'm just not into that sort of gaming anymore. I prefer to play the game for a short while, but get the most out of it.

[URsuckishATlife]

@wildbloodydragon You don't really need to tell me your personal opinion O_o

[wildbloodydragon]

@URsuckishATlife I didn't need to know your personal opinion either, but you replied anyway, didn't you? Fuckin weirdo.

[URsuckishATlife]

@wildbloodydragon What I mentioned wasn't my personal opinion. Saying Forza 3's physics being better was true.

Saying Shift's cockpit giving a subtle and realistic feel was true as well.

[wildbloodydragon]

@URsuckishATlife No they're both your opinion. "Better" and "feel" are extremely subjective words. You think they're true, but that's also your worthless opinion.

[URsuckishATlife]

@wildbloodydragon The word "Better" can be subjective but what I meant by better was the term "realistic" which isn't subjective. Forza 3's physics engine simulates closer to the real thing than Shift does. This isn't an opinion. It's fact.

Shift's cockpit "looking" and "feeling" more realistic can be subjective but at least that opinion has more weight to it than yours. Or do you think Forza 3's lack of head movement is closer to the real thing?

[xsinsinx]

Froza good phisics but gameplay sucks - shift great fun but not realistic - Gt5 prologue is way better then both this games even if its just prologue

[modernflyboy]

the physics on forza is way better than on NFS:Shift.

[tomaatkamp]

the car in shift is unrealistic way to fast with accelerate

[fazzel100]

Shift is way better...

[TheGuyFromBulgaria]

i have fm3 and shift i can say forza is better with graphics, shift is like more action !

[thriller920]

shift sucks forzas better gt5,s best even know only the prolouges out

[dariohum123]

Shift is better for me !!

The cockpit in forza is just awfull

[jeffzie151]

what's awful about it, then?

[dariohum123]

its too close to the steering wheel and normal you must see the side mirror

[whackyronu]

shift is more real because a car on high speed do not drive as smooth as in forza, but is nervous like shift. SHIFT Is for races fans

[ataksnajpera]

Question to so called "12 year old experts". How do you know that Shift physics are worse that in forza? Have you ever driven a real Maserati MC12??? I play Shift on PC with all aids OFF and believe me some cars are very hard to drive! Forza is for boys. Shift is for men expecting real driving experience!

[ataksnajpera]

Cockpit in forza 3 is just a huge joke! First of all. Where is fucking windshield !? Why road is so smooth?!?!?! Who ever has a car knows that road is not that smooth! Even german autobahn! Unfortunately GT5 will suck in this matter as well. Cockpit is very detailed as well but there is no driver's head simulation! Only Shift has this awesome feature!

check my vid: watch?v=GoBVvDDYmm4

[TREY4LIFE1000]

forza 3 seem as though it doesnt have over steer and under steer and the driving is too smooth , it cant sopport the best wheel, the logitech g27 racing wheel along with the driving force GT haha u have to get an over priced otr cheap MS steering wheel what a pain.cant wait till GRAN TURISMO 5 it will kill any other racing sim out there but its taking way too long, but its ganna be worth it i know for sure

[sawink]

Do you people buy a video game to drive a Ford fiesta in your favorite purple or actually race and fell the need... "THE NEED FOR SPEED!" Yes... I am Dangerous... Iceman!" <---- TOP GUN reference for all you 12 year old that don't understand. Great video posting!

-The Captain has spoken

[MCrider222]

That is the difference between arcade and simulation game ! All the NFS games made untill today is for 12 yer old's or for people who cant drive a shit ! You are just stupid !

Simulations are just made to be booring for people who like action like you ! SO JUST STFU ! Everyone can play what they like ! Your comment will not change the fuckin world you idiot !

[FerCryinOotLood]

Relax man.. Have a wank or something :)

[sawink]

Type in MC12 Monza and watch the video... then tell me which one is more realistic (Yes I know its a GT1 compared to a stock thiss video) (In that case watch the MC12 Nurburing video) I prefer the Need For Speed vs Forza 3 video that has the actual NFSS in game sounds and twinkle twinkle little star playing for Forza 3 (Yes i know the NFSS physics of Floatiness and Braking could be slightly better) This is a racing game and not a "OOOOH look at the SHINY cars!" game. Forza is Boring!

[naruto1993max]

but nfs shift has better high speed feeling forza 3 high speed feeling is bad and forza 3 has wrong place for the camera

[macast21]

I like the presentation of nfs shift but forza 3 has better car control. I read somewhere (and agree because I have both games) that the cars in nfs shift "handle like bathtubs". XD

[Air0374]

Terrible Comparison. You know There was the GT1 MC12 in Forza as well?

[G0dF0ther]

i wish forza had as much movment as shift did

[TheGuyFromBulgaria]

bouth are amazing but on shift it's like more action

[topeneid]

forza looks better outside shift inside but shift isnt even the proper the inside of the car it looks a bit diffrent

[Hardy2608]

wtf???????????maps are same???!!

[iEdable]

I Dont Care that NFS has better interior view because how many other racing games have NFS had? but forza 3 is the only forza with the cockpit view and im a fan of the forza series so... now you know :)

[sawink]

What a crappy unsupported anwser.

[Baaz2il]

First try?!?! they have like 15 games you know..

[papatire]

In forza it's like your heads been bolted to the headrest. The interior view drives me nuts because of this. And because of this, the sense of speed is diminished too. Crap view. Nfs has it dialed. I'd like even more looking out the side window on big turns. And I should know, I'm the greatest driver of all time, and it's been proven by science fool!

[Burnz2much]

@papatire my mom says im the cutest boy on earth too, dont listen its a lie ;)

[furkanovich]

No glass at Left :P

[123adcadv]

yea it looks like that aye

[JustDuck]

I think the cockpit view and head movements are more realistic in NFS. If you've been in a race car, you know the g-force can be intense. The physic in NFS on the xbox is arcade. But on the PC, NFS with real mod 2b, it quite good. I don't have Forza 3 yet so can't compare the two.

[TIFONESPRAYERS]

I just bought FM3 (LOVE IT!) but I must say I have to buy NFS either. WOW.

[jdmmeister19]

I'm a big fan of forza 3 but I have the say the graphics are way more pleasing to the eye in NFS. NFS cars also have better stance when modded. It's definitely way better control and physics in forza but there's a sense of speed in NFS

[p00ninpkers]

i like nfs shift better

[ddsurace]

Question is, why didn't you compare apples to apples, and use one of the MC12GT's in Forza, instead of the stock MC12?

[MrBartech]

You have a point. The problem was I wans't able to chose the normal MC12 in NFSS. But I will compare the Audi R8 now. ;)

[MrBartech]

Shift is a great gane. Hopefully EA is going on with the shift serie. :)

[MrBartech]

Mmmm.. maybe to compare...?

[frena323]

whait, in graphics:

Exterior= FM3

Interior= NFS

[LTRules21]

you can adjust the cockpit in forza, just letting u know.

[Burnz2much]

@LTRules21 how? i saw it once but havent found it again lol..any help would be appreciated ty..

[MrTujone]

@Klodust

Cockpit: NFS

Physics: NFS

Graphics: NFS

Customization: FM3 i didn´t see a very good customization dude :/

Overall: why are you comparing NFS shiFt to a Arcade game.

That's all, kinda xbox fan

[KillerForever12]

@MrTujone jelouse....

[MrTujone]

@KillerForever12

Not jelouse, it's the true :S

[URsuckishATlife]

@MrTujone Ehhhhhh not quite, Physics are much better on FM3, If you think Shift's physics are any closer to the real thing than FM3 then you've never driven a real car before.

*looks at channel*

Well that says it all....

[MrTujone]

@URsuckishATlife Look my reply, it was 7 months ago, I wasn't able to test Shift, and i realized that is stupid to play like drifting, even if it's not as good in physics as FM3 it's realistic in terms of speed.

Now I'm waiting for FM4 it will be THE GAME.

[URsuckishATlife]

@MrTujone If you never tested it, why bother to jump to conclusions?

[MrTujone]

@URsuckishATlife

I played both.

If you read, in that time i wasn't able to play nfs shift, i started playing it 3 or 4 months ago.

[URsuckishATlife]

@MrTujone That doesn't answer my question.

If you haven't played either at that time, why bother to jump to conclusions?

[MrTujone]

@URsuckishATlife looking the cockpit you can realize that in shift you can feel the speed it isn't as static as FM3 is. But in racing, NOW, the physics are great, and the online experience of fm3 is a lot better than going crashing through shift.

[URsuckishATlife]

@MrTujone Yes, Shift's physics have an improved, and Shift 2 has improved even more but even so, Forza 3 takes the lead physics wise.