Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep.
To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills.
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I just bought a dozen puppies - I own them, they BELONG to me. They're really cute, but most of them are less grateful than I think they should be, and some even fail to obey me. So I'm gonna put them in a metal garbage can, sprinkle them with gasoline, and burn them. Not all at once, just a little every day to see how long I can keep them squealing and squirming. I'm not God so it won't be for ever, but I'll do my best... Hey, I love 'em!
Going with your analogy, you forgot one part. Most of those puppies had a chance to grow up and decide whether or not they would follow their master. The ones that ran off and failed to obey became like the world, evil and very dangerous. What else is there to do with very dangerous dogs but euthenize?
No, no! Just as so many xians love to do with scripture, you have chosen to modify and add greatly to MY analogy. These are indeed puppies, and will burn as such. And if they grew up on my farm (God's world) they would become average dogs: Mostly dull and uninteresting, some very loving, one or two vicious. And you know what I'd do with the vicious ones? Well, since I had decided not to train them, I would rehabilitate them, enclose them, or kill them. But I would NEVER torture them for ever!
The funny thing about what you say is I believe the Bible is to be taught more or less literrally... but this is only an analogy.
"For all have sinned..." (Rom 3:23) and "God is a righteous judge" (Ps 7:11). That means God only has only one option, put you through His just wrath or use someone else.
Personnaly, if I had to torture my own son in place of you and you didn't accept him recieving the torture, I would make sure the Devil himself made you go through the hottest parts of hell.
"God only has only one option" But hold on a second- this is God Almighty we're talking about here. The Creator of All Things. The guy who makes the rules. You're saying he has no choice but to torture everyone who fails to believe all this? He couldn't reveal himself in unmistakable ways, couldn't run a rehab facility for unbelievers? After all, HE chooses whom to give the gift of faith to, whom to have mercy on, and whom to harden. Yes, YOU might be vengeful, but "the god of love"?
He allows people to go their own way because of His love for them. Why would they go to rehab (the man Himself) for a condition they don't believe they have? They are essentialy choose torture for themselves by rejecting His plan of salvation.
God IS the creator of the rules, but why would he make rules contrary to His own characteristics? He made things they way they are to glorify Him in the end. God is loving, thus He lets us decide which way we will go.
This Christianity I am teaching here is pretty strange and unbelievable without God. Without God softening hearts and revealing the majesty of Himself I doubt anyone would truly go to heaven. One of the greatest jobs of Chrisitans is to preach God's word so that it itself would soften the hearts of people and that God would be revealed through it.
Everyone knows there is a God (Ps. 14:1), whether or not they accept his plan of salvation is up to them.
Imagine God as a judge here on the earth. If He simply gave a free pass to every criminal He would not be much of a judge. Not only that, we would be crazy not to remove Him.
BTW, its nothing great to be someone that loves themselves and other people that at least a little bit too.
" its nothing great to be someone that loves themselves and loves other people that at least love them a little bit too." is what I meant to say.
So apparently you know that there is a God called YHWH out there...
The only truth we know about Him is what He reveals about Himself through His word and divine revelation. Logicaly you can therefore not say He lacks greatness for you do not know Him.
You actually stated that He is awesome since you used a double negative.
"Everyone knows there is a God" No, youngster, that is mere wishful thinking. During the era of British colonialism there was an officer by the name of Grubb who, when asked for advice in dealing with rebellious Indian subjects, had this to say: "Remember that in the heart of every man, if you only scratch deeply enough, is a little Englishman." Absurd, of course, though most people do judge others by themselves, and members of most religions believe that others "know" their god to be real.
Everyone knows there is a God for what other reason would they suppress the conscience He gave them so they could chase after their self-god? Why would we have a conscience if so many of us desire to chase after exactly the opposite things?
Plus, even if the whole evolutionary thing was somehow true, what started that process and what started that, etc.? How does 0 (nothing) + 0 (nothing) = 1 (something)? Speaking of which, what created the very laws our universe is goverened by?
He makes the rules, and holds Himself to those rules, because he is holy. Consider this: one choice to embrace faith in Jesus Christ unto salvation, and it means eternal life and bliss. OR...one choice to reject that faith in the same Jesus means eternal damnation and torments. Everyone cries for an equality in God, and here it is-damnation or salvation, your choice-accept of reject, each has a consequence. The Lord has opened the door-go through or don't.
Mormonism-works; Catholic-works, Buddhism-well, they're just weird; Hinduism-works; JW-works. Muslim-works. Only Christianity is purely of grace by faith, totally undeserved. Works may follow salvation, but they are a result, not a cause. It is unique. IN fact, many believe that as long as you have a good heart, you can still end up in paradise/union with the ALL, regardless of your beliefs. Again, Christianity is unique: ONE way.
Again, you know not of which you speak. We are not punished for Adam's sin, but for our own. All have sinned-Adam was just the one who brought it into the race. We are not answerable for sin until such time as we understand right and wrong-before that sin is not imputed.
But I'm sure you can tell Him He's a hypocrite when you meet Him.
I agree with your view here, though remember, the Cevil will be going through hell with the rest of them! Nothing worse in the eyes of God, I believe, than those who treat the precious blood of His Son, Jesus, as an unclean thing, treading it underfoot as dirt.
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Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep.
To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills.
=> for more information type in google "thedeenshow"
akeello 4 months ago
In our hearts we know the above is true. It is not enough to follow “god.”
TeethWhitening009 1 year ago
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shas1814 3 years ago
Going with your analogy, you forgot one part. Most of those puppies had a chance to grow up and decide whether or not they would follow their master. The ones that ran off and failed to obey became like the world, evil and very dangerous. What else is there to do with very dangerous dogs but euthenize?
MnisthitiMo 3 years ago
shas1814 3 years ago
The funny thing about what you say is I believe the Bible is to be taught more or less literrally... but this is only an analogy.
"For all have sinned..." (Rom 3:23) and "God is a righteous judge" (Ps 7:11). That means God only has only one option, put you through His just wrath or use someone else.
Personnaly, if I had to torture my own son in place of you and you didn't accept him recieving the torture, I would make sure the Devil himself made you go through the hottest parts of hell.
MnisthitiMo 3 years ago
shas1814 3 years ago
He allows people to go their own way because of His love for them. Why would they go to rehab (the man Himself) for a condition they don't believe they have? They are essentialy choose torture for themselves by rejecting His plan of salvation.
God IS the creator of the rules, but why would he make rules contrary to His own characteristics? He made things they way they are to glorify Him in the end. God is loving, thus He lets us decide which way we will go.
MnisthitiMo 3 years ago
"Why would they go to rehab (the man Himself) for a condition they don't believe they have?"
If he can force them into eternal torture,
surely he can soften their hearts or reveal himself
to bring them into rehab.
Going back to my puppies analogy,
I would put a fog in rehab before I would burn it alive.
But that's just me-
I happen to be a loving person.
shas1814 3 years ago
This Christianity I am teaching here is pretty strange and unbelievable without God. Without God softening hearts and revealing the majesty of Himself I doubt anyone would truly go to heaven. One of the greatest jobs of Chrisitans is to preach God's word so that it itself would soften the hearts of people and that God would be revealed through it.
Everyone knows there is a God (Ps. 14:1), whether or not they accept his plan of salvation is up to them.
MnisthitiMo 3 years ago
Imagine God as a judge here on the earth. If He simply gave a free pass to every criminal He would not be much of a judge. Not only that, we would be crazy not to remove Him.
BTW, its nothing great to be someone that loves themselves and other people that at least a little bit too.
MnisthitiMo 3 years ago
" its nothing great to be someone that loves themselves and other people that at least a little bit too."
Too bad YHWH lacks that "nothing great."
shas1814 3 years ago
" its nothing great to be someone that loves themselves and loves other people that at least love them a little bit too." is what I meant to say.
So apparently you know that there is a God called YHWH out there...
The only truth we know about Him is what He reveals about Himself through His word and divine revelation. Logicaly you can therefore not say He lacks greatness for you do not know Him.
You actually stated that He is awesome since you used a double negative.
MnisthitiMo 3 years ago
shas1814 3 years ago
Everyone knows there is a God for what other reason would they suppress the conscience He gave them so they could chase after their self-god? Why would we have a conscience if so many of us desire to chase after exactly the opposite things?
Plus, even if the whole evolutionary thing was somehow true, what started that process and what started that, etc.? How does 0 (nothing) + 0 (nothing) = 1 (something)? Speaking of which, what created the very laws our universe is goverened by?
MnisthitiMo 3 years ago
He makes the rules, and holds Himself to those rules, because he is holy. Consider this: one choice to embrace faith in Jesus Christ unto salvation, and it means eternal life and bliss. OR...one choice to reject that faith in the same Jesus means eternal damnation and torments. Everyone cries for an equality in God, and here it is-damnation or salvation, your choice-accept of reject, each has a consequence. The Lord has opened the door-go through or don't.
ukulelemike 2 years ago
"Consider this: one choice to embrace faith in ....."
Yes, yes, every religion says the same thing.
Just fill in your favourite deity's name.
shas1814 2 years ago
You don;t know your religions, sir/ma'am.
Mormonism-works; Catholic-works, Buddhism-well, they're just weird; Hinduism-works; JW-works. Muslim-works. Only Christianity is purely of grace by faith, totally undeserved. Works may follow salvation, but they are a result, not a cause. It is unique. IN fact, many believe that as long as you have a good heart, you can still end up in paradise/union with the ALL, regardless of your beliefs. Again, Christianity is unique: ONE way.
ukulelemike 2 years ago
"Only Christianity is purely of grace by faith, totally undeserved."
Only xianity claims that we are born in sin,
guilty and condemned to eternal torture,
totally undeserved.
Your god forbids punishing anyone for the sins of their ancestors,
yet turns around and punishes all of humanity
for the actions of Adam.
Irrational and hypocritical.
shas1814 2 years ago
Again, you know not of which you speak. We are not punished for Adam's sin, but for our own. All have sinned-Adam was just the one who brought it into the race. We are not answerable for sin until such time as we understand right and wrong-before that sin is not imputed.
But I'm sure you can tell Him He's a hypocrite when you meet Him.
ukulelemike 2 years ago
You can save your assumptions, judgements, and insults, Mike.
They are for church, not the real world.
"We are not answerable for sin until such time as we understand right and wrong-before that sin is not imputed. "
Care to back this assertion up with chapter and verse?
shas1814 2 years ago
I agree with your view here, though remember, the Cevil will be going through hell with the rest of them! Nothing worse in the eyes of God, I believe, than those who treat the precious blood of His Son, Jesus, as an unclean thing, treading it underfoot as dirt.
ukulelemike 2 years ago