Is there a description of why he's squatting low bar, rounding, tucking his butt and making this movement look like a good morning?
I ask because this seems to go against everything I've learned in 10+ years of lifting and I'm not sure what the point of this video is. Low bar position (for PLing) for squat usually requires one to drive his butt back (not down) and use much more hip (total posterior chain) and not mostly lower back. Tucking w/ oly squats would be fine, but this isn't deep enough
@prince0fsains I seem to remember it being mentioned (when this was posted in Reddit) that he has back issues which don't allow him to assume proper form. He doesn't teach this form.
@MrJustBradley Actually both are done intentionally. The head pointing down keeps the spine on one plane, making the body mechanics more efficient, and the thumb less grip prevents loading weight onto the wrists (and loading 100% onto the back instead). By keeping his elbows back, Rip more-or-less "shoves" the bar into his rear deltoid/trap shelf, keeping it locked and making any sort of grip unnecessary. Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe - a great book!
Rippetoe has limited lumbar extension range of motion because he posteriorly rotates his pelvis at the bottom, even though its a parallel squat which isn't low enough to posteriorly rotate the pelvis
I want to ask this, the head down, the no grip, is there an injury preventing the bar gripping or is this something else this man finds necessary for antoher reason. Thanks.
So sad, I restarted going to the gym for the last 3 weeks now, and I decided to look around and see what everyone was doing in the free weight area while I squatted. One guy was one the GROUND using the smith machine to bench, one guy was using those cables to do bicep curls, another guy was benching with his legs up in the air. And a few other guys with doing some type of bicep curl and not even doing it properly. I was the only one doing anything functional. Really is sad.
@TheDarkKnight1985 nothing wrong with any of the things you listed, except maybe the bad form on the curls. Benching on the floor is a different way of making sure you dont overextend your shoulders so that it keeps good form and doesnt snap anything
This squat form causes low back engagement which is very bad. Watch carefully and you will see he does a subtle back extension near the top because his upper body is too far forward. It's going to wreck the lumbar region.
After reading Ripptoes book I started low bar squatting. If this is how low bar squats are meant to look I am not liking it. I will not stop doing low bar but I will try to make high bar squat my main squat.
@MsMmomomom You have to gradually teach your legs to become flexible. Warm your up legs the practice sitting in the squat position as low as you can go for a few mins everyday and try to go lower next time. Stretch legs afterwards as well.
I see a lot of gym homos on here. You know these guys as the chest waxing homos at your gym who can bench around 315. They like to dis on people who know what they're doing because being accepted for them is more important than giving good advice. Mark wasn't a good athlete -- he was antibullshit. That's why he could do a +600 lb full-squat back in the day, and why you retards doubting Mark are still at homo-central gym and not making the big time like Mark did.
@muzimuzi Because this is a low bar squat and not a high bar squat. Because the bar is held lower on your back, you need to lean forward a bit to keep the bar above the center of your feet. Because of that forward lean, you get less spinal compression than on the high bar squat. You rather get a tendency of that bar to round your back. Your back muscles work hard against that tendency and that's how low bar squat strengthens your back probably more effectively than a high bar position.
@ThunderboltHR hmm yea i know what u mean but he probably still does lake some flexabillity , im also using mark riptoe's squat technique but i still rather put the bar somewhere in highbar position or beteween high and low and not use low bar it doesnt feel right, regardless i've seen some guy here squatting good amount of weight like 450 for reps he was litterly upright and he went ATG deep, cant recall vid's name
@Bladdacker because going too far below parrallel makes your hamstrings relax too much losing the muscle reflex and tension. You won't have a rebound.
@Bladdacker Because this is a low bar squat, all you need to do on the low bar squat is get, as you said, "barely" below parallel. He never said to go all the way down on the low bat squat. It is impossible to squat ATG properly with the low bar position. The high bar squat is where you squat all the way down.
@ThunderboltHR Dude, my brother does low bar squats and he does go all the way down. I am still working on getting my body accustomed to the proper form before rising the weight as Im pretty new to them. He also tells me the lower he puts the bar the better he can squat all the way down. Do you think he is doing something wrong or he's got extremely good and powerful? Btw we r on the 5x5 routine which is strength training.
@Bladdacker Because he's full of a lot of hot air. Big on marketing and low on substance with this Rippetoe guy. Same as every other guru that people line up to follow.
@FastGuppy 1) Dont' tell me what to do. 2) Go kiss Ripps ass if you love him so much. 3) Get some thoughts of your own instead of relying on Rippetoe to spoon feed them to you.
@dokokai My thoughts on the mater? I don't know why I should change my thoughts just because Mark told me to them. It worked, I'm stronger and better because of it. I don't have time some study the biomechanics of weight-lifting and if I did I know I wouldn't be listening to an idiot like you. And for that matter I don't follow SS anymore but if it wasn't for SS i'd be a weak SOB right now. I don't think any of your own thoughts are worth listening too when someone else has better ones.
No safeties, no spotters....what would he have done if he'd goof'd? I really don't get why they don't have racks that you can actually squat inside of at WFAC
@CelticAndProud Your aware that he's actually standing IN FRONT of a rack? They have more power racks at that place than any other comercial gym. Reason he doesnt use it I guess it because he didnt feel he needed it, he knew they werent going to fail. Light weight baby! as Coleman would say.
@Valhallx Key words; "in front." Not inside. In front. If he fails on a rep, he can't just let the safeties catch it. In all of the videos I've watched from his gym, they've always got those 'Rippetoe racks,' or, as I call them, 'do or die' racks =P
@ILykToDoDuhDrifting Yeah? And? He takes a breath, holds it through the whole rep, locks out at the top, exhales and inhales again, sets up and does the next rep. That's pretty standard for strength training. In fact, treating a set of 10 as 10 singles is a good way to approach it. Your muscles don't really get much opportunity to recover, but you do regenerate a little ATP and get the chance to breathe between reps. It's a good thing. Plus, it makes it easier to keep good form for each rep.
@Insubordinate90 Age has nothing to do with it, you would need to have him perform a maximal test on him. But by what I saw since he 1) cut the range of motion noticably shorter on the second rep and 2) changed the lift all together by adding a deadlift movement into it to supplement for crazy tight hip flexors and weak hip extensors, I would say 315 is pretty close to his max. But you never ever use age to determine that, that is just ignorant.
@mrceebees14 Actually, age has everything to do with it. It's a well known fact that from age 40 onwards spine flexibility decreases, cartilage fades and bones lose density.
@Insubordinate90 No it doesn't, that is not only a crock of shit, but a lazy blanket statement. Age does not become a main player until you are about 60 years old, by that time hormone levels have dropped off so much that to maintain lean muscle tissue decreases dramatically. That drop off carries over to poor absorption of minerals that are vital to bone, muscle and the integrity of the ligaments.
Are you even a coach? Do you even train? You called me out as far as not knowing the science
@mrceebees14 Oh, I see your faggot question on this page when it never showed up in my inbox. Good thing it didn't, because you truly ARE a fucking idiot. What the fuck do you think I'm doing going through squat videos you fucking tard? Yes I lift, we all aren't faggot queers like you browsing to look at men's asses. You're clearly the lard ass who goes around acting like he knows shit, spewing bull like "age doesn't affect bone or muscle". Go google some shit before you talk to me.
@Insubordinate90 Suuuuuure it didn't go to your folder, it went to your boyfriends.
You certainly haven't learned anything from lifting watching these videos, which means your learning curve resembles a straight line without peaks. I asked you a simple question which you have refused to answer because you can't, you are just plain stupid and a liar to boot. I would not be surprised if you accomplished a trifeca within the next two posts, I will be looking forward to it.
@Insubordinate90 I know a hell of a-lot more then you, that much is very clear. All you do is make retarded comments and don't even bother to back them up, a 5 year old can do that, which means you're over your head here.
I never said age does not affect bone and muscle among other things, don't blame me for your bad comprehension. What I said was, it does not start playing a huge role until 60+ years old, which was a response to you saying 45, which is entirely wrong.
@Insubordinate90 On average bones re-mineralize every three weeks for males and every four to five weeks for females. That is the same rate as a 20 year old and does not make noticable changes until around 60+ years old. Muscle does not change idiot (trifecta! congrats!) hormone levels and the CNS is what changes the most. Less hormone uptake, less lean tissue uptake, which leads to a higher and faster rate of atrophy(amount varies). Because
@mrceebees14 "Narrow minded because I won't use Google?" Wow. You really are fucking stupid. I'm not even going to bother spelling it out for your retarded brain. And I answered your idiotic question faggot, look for my post.
@Insubordinate90 I already told you why I don't to use Google to get the info, I ALREADY know the answer, so no need to look it up. You are freaking dense pal.
Where is the answer then, I just check page after page and it's nowhere. Do you think this tactic will work? I am not as stupid as you.
What is the matter? Too hard for you? This is basic shit that coaches learn FIRST before they are taught program design.
@mrceebees14 "Oh, I see your faggot question on this page when it never showed up in my inbox. Good thing it didn't, because you truly ARE a fucking idiot. What the fuck do you think I'm doing going through squat videos you fucking tard? Yes I lift, we all aren't faggot queers like you browsing to look at men's asses. You're clearly the lard ass who goes around acting like he knows shit, spewing bull like "age doesn't affect bone or muscle". Go google some shit before you talk to me."
@Insubordinate90 I can understand you being pissed of, you can't, nor did you even try to answer this simple "introduction to Strength Training" question that most Coaches learn on day 1. Instead, you take the pussy way out and try and change the subject by saying "google." Next time you pipe off to someone, make sure you can back it up, because you certainly don't know shit from shine about training, let alone talk down to me.
I have forgotten more about training then you will ever know.
@Insubordinate90 A man weights 250lbs, he squats 450lbs 17 times max. Given that information, he tells you he wants to develop more power in this lift. My question is, what is his max for this lift and what sets and reps do you prescribe (I could ask for 3 more things in this lift, but I think 2 is going to be plenty tough for you.)
@Insubordinate90 You are retarded, this is the third time I have to repeat this. Age becomes a big factor at 60+ years old, NOT at 45 like you said. Do you understand? Is that clear enough for you? Fuck, if Brains were gas you wouldn't have enough to drive a flea mobile around the inside of a Cheerio.
Next time you call someone out, make sure you can back it up. That is unless you like being exposed as a huge fraud who knows jack shit about a subject.
@Insubordinate90 of training, so answer the easy question I gave you, because as of now the only thing you are accomplishing is letting you ego write checks your brain can't cash.
My bet is you won't even attempt to answer it, and don't be a bitch and get someone else to do it for you, don't be a punk, do it yourself Mr.Mouth.
@mrceebees14 What fucking question you stupid cunt? It's not my fault that you're a dyslexic bastard who can't put two sentences together. How about you clearly state what the question is instead of being a downs, because I sure as hell am not going to go through your garbage posts looking for it. While you're at it, go back to school and brush up on your English you fucking idiot.
5)He clearly has a complete ROM as he is obviously going below parallel and activating everything he needs to. Going lower is not necessary and could cause him to go into spinal flexion.
6)He is an older man who has been through multiple injuries squatting above 300 pounds for 10 reps.
7)If you think you know it all about "reps science", think again.
5) 0:14 hip passes the Knee at the bottom end of the movement.
0:21 Hip passes the Knee again, but not as low (he is already going downhill)
0:28 Hip passes the Knee again, same depth as the second, but he leans forward more to generate power from the spinal erectors. So he has just turned the bottom of this movement into a dead lift which is a different strength curve and therefore different lift.
0:34 His technique is the same as the previous rep, his body has found
@Arrowpower part 2. If you notice, he is shortening the depth of the squat as he goes, and it's not voluntary, he simply can't maintain it. A big reason is his weak hip extensors(which are normally weak on most people because they are overstretched), and tight hip flexors. Those hip flexors are a HUGE part of this lift because if they are tight, you will LOSE fully range of motion at the bottom of the lift.
3) It's "lumbar" dope, and no it isn't. He is losing power in his hips at the bottom
welcome to stiff non flexible era of lifters. This dude backs starts to bend even before he hits parallel. Ass to grass squat would cripple hiim. The only people who knows how to squat are olympic weightlifters. They define a squat. This sumo barely parallel good morning lockouts got nothing to do with definition of word a squat.
@SteamedPanda Indeed! I'm 29 and I do 120kg for 5 reps, I hope Im in this good shape when im 55. Especially considering this is a guy thats been in motorcycle accidents etc. as Kaka13 said.
@Galuche1L1U Nope. The dude looks like shit though. Why would you train to look like that? He's not in the NFL, he doesn't need to be that strong and bulky.
@ANeonTiger Lol you won't look like that if you do starting strength, it's just that the guy is older now and doesn't care about his own physic really, but he used to be pretty strong. Oh, and strong doesn't necessarily = bulky, and I don't get why you need to be in the NFL to be strong and bulky,
how do people have the ballz to question this guy? first of all, jay cutler, pat mendez, and andy bolton all have very different squat techniques. arent people allowed to have different opinions? if mark rippetoe thought that looking up was the best way dont you think he would?
@shuls89 I'd like to learn more. What are the benefits of squating this way? Olympic weightlifters seem to do front and back squats that are raw, knees move forward first, back upright, and atg for MORE weight compared to gear wearing, partial motion, powerlifters. And don't O-style squats just require more flexibility that one can get from practice, stretching, and some special massage? And, why not work the posterior chain more by varying training with different variations of the deadlift?
@brycecoad1 I believe the point of squatting this way is to put less torque on the torso while squatting, as the bar is closer to the centre of the body. Low bar also activates the hamstrings and glutes, where as high bar/front squat are more quad dominant. As for Powerlifter vs O-lifter... they are entirely different sports. They both require lots of strength, but I won't go into that. Basically if you practice, you can probably O-lift.
@604josh Thanks for the response. But don't the glutes and hams get even more activation if you do a full range of motion(atg) O-style back squat? And then if you want more even more hip and lower back activation then why not do vary the training with deadlifts from a podium with a medium stance, using a clean or snatch grip? This squat video just looks like a modified good morning. Why collapse all the different exercises/tools into one ugly looking hybrid? It seems like a bad compromise.
@brycecoad1 This style of squat is used in Rippetoe's Starting Strength program. This low bar squat gives the most muscle activation as far as glutes and hams, and even more so the deeper you squat. As for back work, I'm not so sure. Starting Strength is basically a 2 day full body workout designed for beginners. I don't understand what you're asking about back training, but the program Rippetoe advocates for beginners has deadlifts, if that helps.
@brycecoad1 Very well my friend. You have my respect. Finaly someone who gets the point of olympic ass to grass squat. Seems like you've been doing oly lift by your self. The big problem with this Ripptoe dude is that he never walk the walk. All he does is talk the talk. Never seen him in olympics all my life. I'm originaly from Belarus. Competed in weightlifting my self in 1996 Olympis in Atlanta(108kg). Ended up 4th.
@tubermann1 Wladimir Emelyanov. I'm sorry but I have never heard anything about Ripptoe in world class olympic weightlifting field. My couch was Leonid Taranenko. We're competed together in his last olympic in 1996 Atlanta. He was in 108+ category. He didn't finish due to pain in his hips. Our doctor Semenyakow pulled him away for good. Anyway I have a many friends cross the international field and I bet my buddy Shane Hamman would lough to death about Ripptoe's book.
@tubermann1 Friends? Are you consider anybody who ever talk to you being your friend? This dude Rippetoe is a joke. He's something like Al Gore's global warming paranoia. Never walk the walk always talk the talk. This guy is nobody in olympic weightlifting.
@m5p944 Why don't you ask Shane if he considers Rippetoe a friend? You brought Shane up, and I bet you were surprised to know that they know each other and have discussed lifting together. Rippetoe is frankly on your side, and he's trying to make weightlifting viable in America. He brought thousands of people to strength training with his books, im surprised you're this disdainful of him simply because you dont like his squat. He did 600+ in competition, so its not like he's a complete weaking
Go to vimeo and there's videos of a slightly older Rip doing 365x10 and 405x5. I'm sure everyone here will be squatting 405x5 when they're Rip's age. In fact, I bet everyone criticizing him here can squat 405x5. *snicker*
Notice his lower back rounding towards the bottom of the squat. Rippetoe actively discourages that in starting strength. As Rip would say, poor hamstring flexibility...
@FramtonDawgg Rippetoe the squat master is always shown instructing squats, but finally here is a video of him actually squatting.
Just like for Star Wars episodes 4, 5, 6, and 1, Yoda is a Jedi master who teaches, and is revered by other Jedi. Then in episode 2, he finally fights Cunt Dookie.
do u have a video on front squat techinque and form
pspbkk901 20 hours ago
knee bands, belt, running shoes, barely parallel squat... it seems that you dont do as you preach, Rip.
bbbbbb222222 3 days ago
@bbbbbb222222 its not running shoes idiot buy glasses
nymfo12 3 days ago
@nymfo12 I'm pretty sure those are.
bbbbbb222222 2 days ago
@bbbbbb222222 aparently you haven't read SS
loosekarrott 2 days ago
@loosekarrott Starting strenght is my bible, drink a gallon of milk a day hurrdurr.
bbbbbb222222 2 days ago
@bbbbbb222222 no, but i have read it and actually know what it says.
loosekarrott 1 day ago
Big thing I noticed here was how Rip has a 5 second pause at the top before doing another rep. Interesting to watch.
meetchvb 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
This is like watching Yoda with a lightsaber
Utgorn 1 week ago
Song?
Dearayne 3 weeks ago
Is there a description of why he's squatting low bar, rounding, tucking his butt and making this movement look like a good morning?
I ask because this seems to go against everything I've learned in 10+ years of lifting and I'm not sure what the point of this video is. Low bar position (for PLing) for squat usually requires one to drive his butt back (not down) and use much more hip (total posterior chain) and not mostly lower back. Tucking w/ oly squats would be fine, but this isn't deep enough
prince0fsains 4 weeks ago
@prince0fsains I seem to remember it being mentioned (when this was posted in Reddit) that he has back issues which don't allow him to assume proper form. He doesn't teach this form.
Rapt0r111 3 weeks ago
@Rapt0r111 This is proper form, the one he teaches.
jchochli 3 weeks ago
Great song! what's it called?
311JARVIS 1 month ago
@311JARVIS
Chicago Beginnings
MrRgruffydd 1 week ago
@MrJustBradley Actually both are done intentionally. The head pointing down keeps the spine on one plane, making the body mechanics more efficient, and the thumb less grip prevents loading weight onto the wrists (and loading 100% onto the back instead). By keeping his elbows back, Rip more-or-less "shoves" the bar into his rear deltoid/trap shelf, keeping it locked and making any sort of grip unnecessary. Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe - a great book!
ChimpHappy 1 month ago 3
Rippetoe has limited lumbar extension range of motion because he posteriorly rotates his pelvis at the bottom, even though its a parallel squat which isn't low enough to posteriorly rotate the pelvis
PUSSY100ish 1 month ago
Comments on here are awesome.
oj0929 1 month ago 2
I want to ask this, the head down, the no grip, is there an injury preventing the bar gripping or is this something else this man finds necessary for antoher reason. Thanks.
MrJustBradley 1 month ago
So dipping the pelvis at the bottom is ok form?
harrybaconification 1 month ago
goddamn fucking homos....
Glutenbob 1 month ago
@Glutenbob I bet you you want to bum Rippetoe you dirty bastard
PUSSY100ish 1 month ago
REAL training !
Cragails 1 month ago
He could have been doing the squats inside the power rack but ...whatever.
FieldBoy111 1 month ago
@FieldBoy111 Nah, he, like me, probably feels safer doing them outside the cage where he can bail freely if need arises
evilpinne 1 month ago
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Practicing what he preaches.
oblivinater 1 month ago
So sad, I restarted going to the gym for the last 3 weeks now, and I decided to look around and see what everyone was doing in the free weight area while I squatted. One guy was one the GROUND using the smith machine to bench, one guy was using those cables to do bicep curls, another guy was benching with his legs up in the air. And a few other guys with doing some type of bicep curl and not even doing it properly. I was the only one doing anything functional. Really is sad.
TheDarkKnight1985 2 months ago
@TheDarkKnight1985 nothing wrong with any of the things you listed, except maybe the bad form on the curls. Benching on the floor is a different way of making sure you dont overextend your shoulders so that it keeps good form and doesnt snap anything
mystic0608 1 month ago
Coach Rip's lifting music is awesome.
quickdrawmcgrawww 2 months ago 2
Every rep, like a machine, to the same depth - parallel.
OptLtges 2 months ago 2
Excellent form on these squats. That's how a squat should be done.
burnindownthehouse 2 months ago 2
Meh, I hate low bar Squats men!
MarcoDutch18 2 months ago
@MarcoDutch18 I suppose you'll have to stick to guys who bend over the way you like, homo.
MEELATEHGRIL 2 months ago
@MarcoDutch18
its amazing how ever single lifting video on you tube has to have some queers making some stupid comment. Why do you stick to your faggot videos.
happytobeproud 2 months ago
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look up mark
dt76028 2 months ago
Nice form Rip, awesome buttwink. Not going ATG aswell, spare your knees!
OhLethargie 3 months ago
Nice job. Very impressive. By the way, GREAT song too. Thanks for posting this.
mixer14316 3 months ago
can someone tell me of what ethnic origin is rippetoe?
harmony72 4 months ago
@harmony72 his ethnic background is Chuck Norris
gafroninja 3 months ago in playlist Rippetoe 5
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This squat form causes low back engagement which is very bad. Watch carefully and you will see he does a subtle back extension near the top because his upper body is too far forward. It's going to wreck the lumbar region.
dokokai 4 months ago
After reading Ripptoes book I started low bar squatting. If this is how low bar squats are meant to look I am not liking it. I will not stop doing low bar but I will try to make high bar squat my main squat.
cpandrews6 4 months ago
I lack flexibility to even go that low without rounding my lower back...Is there anything i can do? im 16 years old :(
MsMmomomom 4 months ago
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cpandrews6 4 months ago
@MsMmomomom You have to gradually teach your legs to become flexible. Warm your up legs the practice sitting in the squat position as low as you can go for a few mins everyday and try to go lower next time. Stretch legs afterwards as well.
cpandrews6 4 months ago
@MsMmomomom Take your stance out a little bit? I'm quite a small guy and found that the wider grip I took the easier it was.
ianclark001 3 months ago
I see a lot of gym homos on here. You know these guys as the chest waxing homos at your gym who can bench around 315. They like to dis on people who know what they're doing because being accepted for them is more important than giving good advice. Mark wasn't a good athlete -- he was antibullshit. That's why he could do a +600 lb full-squat back in the day, and why you retards doubting Mark are still at homo-central gym and not making the big time like Mark did.
FastGuppy 4 months ago 30
@FastGuppy cut the homophobic shit dick head
Obsidian1392 1 month ago
@Obsidian1392 Um, I don't have a problem with "gay" guys. I have a problem with gym "homos".
FastGuppy 1 month ago
his depth is great but why is he bending like that on the bottom
muzimuzi 4 months ago 2
@muzimuzi Because this is a low bar squat and not a high bar squat. Because the bar is held lower on your back, you need to lean forward a bit to keep the bar above the center of your feet. Because of that forward lean, you get less spinal compression than on the high bar squat. You rather get a tendency of that bar to round your back. Your back muscles work hard against that tendency and that's how low bar squat strengthens your back probably more effectively than a high bar position.
ThunderboltHR 4 months ago 2
@ThunderboltHR hmm yea i know what u mean but he probably still does lake some flexabillity , im also using mark riptoe's squat technique but i still rather put the bar somewhere in highbar position or beteween high and low and not use low bar it doesnt feel right, regardless i've seen some guy here squatting good amount of weight like 450 for reps he was litterly upright and he went ATG deep, cant recall vid's name
muzimuzi 4 months ago
whats the music? :)
nemphys90 4 months ago
@nemphys90 The music is Chicago - Beginnings
shanewendi 4 months ago
@nemphys90 The music is Chicago - Beginnings
shanewendi 4 months ago
pimp
korvix 4 months ago in playlist Mark Rippetoe
why does he always say a fullsquat is superior to parrallel, but when he squats himself he barely goes below parrallel.
Bladdacker 4 months ago
@Bladdacker probably because he lacks the flexibility considering he is 50+
JamieandhisIbanez 4 months ago
@Bladdacker because barley below parrallel IS a full squat,
keironewoodgate 4 months ago
@Bladdacker because going too far below parrallel makes your hamstrings relax too much losing the muscle reflex and tension. You won't have a rebound.
FastGuppy 4 months ago
@Bladdacker Because this is a low bar squat, all you need to do on the low bar squat is get, as you said, "barely" below parallel. He never said to go all the way down on the low bat squat. It is impossible to squat ATG properly with the low bar position. The high bar squat is where you squat all the way down.
ThunderboltHR 4 months ago 17
@ThunderboltHR I think that would turn into a good morning if he went lower like you said haha
SR4LosersIsMYBITCH 2 months ago
@ThunderboltHR You know jackshit!
PUSSY100ish 1 month ago
@ThunderboltHR not sure its impossible but with high weight its hard
muzimuzi 4 weeks ago
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@ThunderboltHR Dude, my brother does low bar squats and he does go all the way down. I am still working on getting my body accustomed to the proper form before rising the weight as Im pretty new to them. He also tells me the lower he puts the bar the better he can squat all the way down. Do you think he is doing something wrong or he's got extremely good and powerful? Btw we r on the 5x5 routine which is strength training.
migueford 1 day ago
@Bladdacker at that age, he probably lacks the flexibility to perform a full squat..
skata123456789456123 4 months ago
@Bladdacker
Can't believe 5 people thumbed that comment. What the fuck.
AlsavierWoW 4 months ago 2
@Bladdacker Because he's full of a lot of hot air. Big on marketing and low on substance with this Rippetoe guy. Same as every other guru that people line up to follow.
dokokai 4 months ago
@dokokai Do us a favor. Shut the fuck up.
FastGuppy 4 months ago 3
@FastGuppy 1) Dont' tell me what to do. 2) Go kiss Ripps ass if you love him so much. 3) Get some thoughts of your own instead of relying on Rippetoe to spoon feed them to you.
dokokai 3 months ago
@dokokai My thoughts on the mater? I don't know why I should change my thoughts just because Mark told me to them. It worked, I'm stronger and better because of it. I don't have time some study the biomechanics of weight-lifting and if I did I know I wouldn't be listening to an idiot like you. And for that matter I don't follow SS anymore but if it wasn't for SS i'd be a weak SOB right now. I don't think any of your own thoughts are worth listening too when someone else has better ones.
FastGuppy 1 month ago
@Bladdacker what are you talking about. He is going below parallel
JordanSpecops123 4 months ago 4
No safeties, no spotters....what would he have done if he'd goof'd? I really don't get why they don't have racks that you can actually squat inside of at WFAC
CelticAndProud 5 months ago
@CelticAndProud Your aware that he's actually standing IN FRONT of a rack? They have more power racks at that place than any other comercial gym. Reason he doesnt use it I guess it because he didnt feel he needed it, he knew they werent going to fail. Light weight baby! as Coleman would say.
Valhallx 4 months ago
@Valhallx Key words; "in front." Not inside. In front. If he fails on a rep, he can't just let the safeties catch it. In all of the videos I've watched from his gym, they've always got those 'Rippetoe racks,' or, as I call them, 'do or die' racks =P
CelticAndProud 4 months ago
I find it funny that the coach of all coaches has shitty form
PowerSprinter 5 months ago
@PowerSprinter Those who can't do, teach. Besides, he's over 50 and he's squatting 140 kg. Cut him some slack.
PalerLaze 5 months ago
That was a nice set man!!
birtanem8 5 months ago
Why's he pausing so much between reps.
This is like 10 sets of 1.
ILykToDoDuhDrifting 5 months ago
@ILykToDoDuhDrifting He's making sure he goes at a steady pace so his form is good. Faulty form with 315 lbs on the back is dangerous.
PalerLaze 5 months ago
@ILykToDoDuhDrifting
It's for demonstration purposes, so he's making sure his form his perfect everytime.
riddleman65 5 months ago
@ILykToDoDuhDrifting Yeah? And? He takes a breath, holds it through the whole rep, locks out at the top, exhales and inhales again, sets up and does the next rep. That's pretty standard for strength training. In fact, treating a set of 10 as 10 singles is a good way to approach it. Your muscles don't really get much opportunity to recover, but you do regenerate a little ATP and get the chance to breathe between reps. It's a good thing. Plus, it makes it easier to keep good form for each rep.
RyanDavidFerguson 5 months ago 2
@RyanDavidFerguson Title should be called 315x1x10. Too damn long.
ILykToDoDuhDrifting 5 months ago
@ILykToDoDuhDrifting Wait till your 50 years old, then do 10 repetitions of 315 lb. squats below parallel and we'll see how fast you are.
PalerLaze 5 months ago
@PalerLaze i know right? ill be happy to be alive at 50, let alone squatting 315 for 10. word
smats42 2 months ago
i'm surprise he can maintain good form while looking downward - at least it looks like he is - i would have tumbled forwarf after the 1st rep
dannyboy9 5 months ago
@dannyboy9 Your balance must be abysmal. Or maybe your skull weighs more than the bar? Your head position should have no bearing on balance.
RyanDavidFerguson 5 months ago
with high weight all aspect of form goes out the window
Insubordinate90 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 That is only if he is well above his max and then I would have to ask why.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@mrceebees14 It probably is for him. What age is he, 45?
Insubordinate90 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 Age has nothing to do with it, you would need to have him perform a maximal test on him. But by what I saw since he 1) cut the range of motion noticably shorter on the second rep and 2) changed the lift all together by adding a deadlift movement into it to supplement for crazy tight hip flexors and weak hip extensors, I would say 315 is pretty close to his max. But you never ever use age to determine that, that is just ignorant.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@mrceebees14 Actually, age has everything to do with it. It's a well known fact that from age 40 onwards spine flexibility decreases, cartilage fades and bones lose density.
Insubordinate90 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 No it doesn't, that is not only a crock of shit, but a lazy blanket statement. Age does not become a main player until you are about 60 years old, by that time hormone levels have dropped off so much that to maintain lean muscle tissue decreases dramatically. That drop off carries over to poor absorption of minerals that are vital to bone, muscle and the integrity of the ligaments.
Are you even a coach? Do you even train? You called me out as far as not knowing the science
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@mrceebees14 Oh, I see your faggot question on this page when it never showed up in my inbox. Good thing it didn't, because you truly ARE a fucking idiot. What the fuck do you think I'm doing going through squat videos you fucking tard? Yes I lift, we all aren't faggot queers like you browsing to look at men's asses. You're clearly the lard ass who goes around acting like he knows shit, spewing bull like "age doesn't affect bone or muscle". Go google some shit before you talk to me.
Insubordinate90 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 Suuuuuure it didn't go to your folder, it went to your boyfriends.
You certainly haven't learned anything from lifting watching these videos, which means your learning curve resembles a straight line without peaks. I asked you a simple question which you have refused to answer because you can't, you are just plain stupid and a liar to boot. I would not be surprised if you accomplished a trifeca within the next two posts, I will be looking forward to it.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 I know a hell of a-lot more then you, that much is very clear. All you do is make retarded comments and don't even bother to back them up, a 5 year old can do that, which means you're over your head here.
I never said age does not affect bone and muscle among other things, don't blame me for your bad comprehension. What I said was, it does not start playing a huge role until 60+ years old, which was a response to you saying 45, which is entirely wrong.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 On average bones re-mineralize every three weeks for males and every four to five weeks for females. That is the same rate as a 20 year old and does not make noticable changes until around 60+ years old. Muscle does not change idiot (trifecta! congrats!) hormone levels and the CNS is what changes the most. Less hormone uptake, less lean tissue uptake, which leads to a higher and faster rate of atrophy(amount varies). Because
I don't need to google it, I already know it.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@mrceebees14 Well done retard. You just proved yourself wrong and me right, all through the power of google. Narrow minded cunt.
Insubordinate90 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 Narrow minded because I won't use Google? haha Makes no sense at all, but then again, this is you we are talking about.
Stop avoiding answering the question by making retarded posts, answer the question already.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@mrceebees14 "Narrow minded because I won't use Google?" Wow. You really are fucking stupid. I'm not even going to bother spelling it out for your retarded brain. And I answered your idiotic question faggot, look for my post.
Insubordinate90 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 I already told you why I don't to use Google to get the info, I ALREADY know the answer, so no need to look it up. You are freaking dense pal.
Where is the answer then, I just check page after page and it's nowhere. Do you think this tactic will work? I am not as stupid as you.
What is the matter? Too hard for you? This is basic shit that coaches learn FIRST before they are taught program design.
ANSWER THE QUESTION.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@mrceebees14 "Oh, I see your faggot question on this page when it never showed up in my inbox. Good thing it didn't, because you truly ARE a fucking idiot. What the fuck do you think I'm doing going through squat videos you fucking tard? Yes I lift, we all aren't faggot queers like you browsing to look at men's asses. You're clearly the lard ass who goes around acting like he knows shit, spewing bull like "age doesn't affect bone or muscle". Go google some shit before you talk to me."
Blind?
Insubordinate90 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 I can understand you being pissed of, you can't, nor did you even try to answer this simple "introduction to Strength Training" question that most Coaches learn on day 1. Instead, you take the pussy way out and try and change the subject by saying "google." Next time you pipe off to someone, make sure you can back it up, because you certainly don't know shit from shine about training, let alone talk down to me.
I have forgotten more about training then you will ever know.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
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@Insubordinate90 A man weights 250lbs, he squats 450lbs 17 times max. Given that information, he tells you he wants to develop more power in this lift. My question is, what is his max for this lift and what sets and reps do you prescribe (I could ask for 3 more things in this lift, but I think 2 is going to be plenty tough for you.)
Here is the question again.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 You are retarded, this is the third time I have to repeat this. Age becomes a big factor at 60+ years old, NOT at 45 like you said. Do you understand? Is that clear enough for you? Fuck, if Brains were gas you wouldn't have enough to drive a flea mobile around the inside of a Cheerio.
Next time you call someone out, make sure you can back it up. That is unless you like being exposed as a huge fraud who knows jack shit about a subject.
Bye bitch.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 of training, so answer the easy question I gave you, because as of now the only thing you are accomplishing is letting you ego write checks your brain can't cash.
My bet is you won't even attempt to answer it, and don't be a bitch and get someone else to do it for you, don't be a punk, do it yourself Mr.Mouth.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@mrceebees14 what the fuck are you talking about?
Insubordinate90 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 Something you don't understand retard. I fucking own you.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 This is the third time asking you, answer the question retard or get lost. You want to pipe off to me? Then back it up bitch.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
@mrceebees14 What fucking question you stupid cunt? It's not my fault that you're a dyslexic bastard who can't put two sentences together. How about you clearly state what the question is instead of being a downs, because I sure as hell am not going to go through your garbage posts looking for it. While you're at it, go back to school and brush up on your English you fucking idiot.
Insubordinate90 5 months ago
@Insubordinate90 Now you can't find it hahaha
Right up there with "my dog ate my homework."
You are weak.
mrceebees14 5 months ago
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@mrceebees14 Did you read my next post you fucking retard? Oh wait, you couldn't find it. Idiot.
Insubordinate90 5 months ago
5)He clearly has a complete ROM as he is obviously going below parallel and activating everything he needs to. Going lower is not necessary and could cause him to go into spinal flexion.
6)He is an older man who has been through multiple injuries squatting above 300 pounds for 10 reps.
7)If you think you know it all about "reps science", think again.
Arrowpower 5 months ago
@Arrowpower part 5
5) 0:14 hip passes the Knee at the bottom end of the movement.
0:21 Hip passes the Knee again, but not as low (he is already going downhill)
0:28 Hip passes the Knee again, same depth as the second, but he leans forward more to generate power from the spinal erectors. So he has just turned the bottom of this movement into a dead lift which is a different strength curve and therefore different lift.
0:34 His technique is the same as the previous rep, his body has found
mrceebees14 5 months ago
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mrceebees14 5 months ago
@Arrowpower part 2. If you notice, he is shortening the depth of the squat as he goes, and it's not voluntary, he simply can't maintain it. A big reason is his weak hip extensors(which are normally weak on most people because they are overstretched), and tight hip flexors. Those hip flexors are a HUGE part of this lift because if they are tight, you will LOSE fully range of motion at the bottom of the lift.
3) It's "lumbar" dope, and no it isn't. He is losing power in his hips at the bottom
mrceebees14 5 months ago
315 x 10 without good form. Not a gifted athlete. But a gifted coach and author.
hgiffordsmith2008 6 months ago
welcome to stiff non flexible era of lifters. This dude backs starts to bend even before he hits parallel. Ass to grass squat would cripple hiim. The only people who knows how to squat are olympic weightlifters. They define a squat. This sumo barely parallel good morning lockouts got nothing to do with definition of word a squat.
m5p944 6 months ago
you go Mark!
rmtx25 6 months ago
not enough hip drive ;)
entropyfu 7 months ago in playlist Mark Rippetoe
Rippetoe's best lifts: 611 squat, 396 bench, 633 dead.
That, and being one of the leading strength coaches for three decades.
If anyone still doubts this mans authority, they need their head checked.
Honken 7 months ago
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toes should be pointed forward, knees close together to form a "box", way too low.. he's going to injure his knees if he keeps going that low
pumitaproductions 7 months ago
@pumitaproductions you're joking, right?
thetreeceman 7 months ago
@thetreeceman :)
pumitaproductions 7 months ago
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what a horrible squat..
adarqui 7 months ago
The music brings the epicness to a whole new level.
dimitrovBxr77 7 months ago
These squats suck but to be fair he has said himself that his own squat technique is pretty crappy, he's had a lot of injuries and stuff.
TheTomtah 8 months ago
@TheTomtah these squats suck? that is a 50+ year old man doing 140kg for 10 reps going below parallel - seriously, some people are never impressed.
SteamedPanda 7 months ago 30
@SteamedPanda Indeed! I'm 29 and I do 120kg for 5 reps, I hope Im in this good shape when im 55. Especially considering this is a guy thats been in motorcycle accidents etc. as Kaka13 said.
Valhallx 4 months ago
@SteamedPanda You are correct, they suck. When Louie Simmons squated 0ver 900lbs at 50 years old, 315lbs at the same age is kinda weak
shawn06m1 3 months ago
you are comparing louie maxing out at 900 to Rippetoe doing reps? you're retarded.
davidf35 3 months ago
@TheTomtah
You're hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!
loku221 7 months ago
GOD IS ACTION
604josh 8 months ago in playlist The Squat
@mrceebees14 RedWildz is right. This clearly IS a low bar squat. He's doing it right, going lower than parallel would make him prone to injuries.
XQuinze 8 months ago
@XQuinze but he IS going lower than parallel..? Looks to me he is anyway o:
ejdl89 8 months ago
@ejdl89 Maybe he's going a hair lower than parallel, but this is what I and I'm guessing most people consider a parallel squat.
XQuinze 8 months ago
this gives me goosebumps
depleures 8 months ago
whats the song in the background? Sounds like perfect lifting music.
mustafaupk 8 months ago
@mustafaupk The song is called Beginnings, by the band Chicago. I agree, great lifting music.
hipsta9 7 months ago
@mustafaupk The song is called Beginnings, by the band Chicago. Great lifting music indeed!
hipsta9 7 months ago
@hipsta9 Thanks a lot man. I've been dying to get that song.
mustafaupk 7 months ago
anyone know the name of this song?
KINGofHARTZ7 9 months ago
@KINGofHARTZ7 Good tune ain't it? 'Beginnings' by Chicago.
awreckingball 8 months ago
That is bad technique and it will get worse until he fixes what is a huge inflexibility.
Not impressed at all, but then again, he support Crossfit.
mrceebees14 9 months ago
Why is Rippetoe so unaesthetic? Srsly, someone answer this for me...
ANeonTiger 9 months ago
@ANeonTiger Where did you get the idea that he should be aesthetic? Have you even read his book?
Galuche1L1U 8 months ago
@Galuche1L1U Nope. The dude looks like shit though. Why would you train to look like that? He's not in the NFL, he doesn't need to be that strong and bulky.
ANeonTiger 8 months ago
@ANeonTiger Lol you won't look like that if you do starting strength, it's just that the guy is older now and doesn't care about his own physic really, but he used to be pretty strong. Oh, and strong doesn't necessarily = bulky, and I don't get why you need to be in the NFL to be strong and bulky,
Galuche1L1U 8 months ago
how do people have the ballz to question this guy? first of all, jay cutler, pat mendez, and andy bolton all have very different squat techniques. arent people allowed to have different opinions? if mark rippetoe thought that looking up was the best way dont you think he would?
shuls89 9 months ago
@shuls89 I'd like to learn more. What are the benefits of squating this way? Olympic weightlifters seem to do front and back squats that are raw, knees move forward first, back upright, and atg for MORE weight compared to gear wearing, partial motion, powerlifters. And don't O-style squats just require more flexibility that one can get from practice, stretching, and some special massage? And, why not work the posterior chain more by varying training with different variations of the deadlift?
brycecoad1 7 months ago
@brycecoad1 I believe the point of squatting this way is to put less torque on the torso while squatting, as the bar is closer to the centre of the body. Low bar also activates the hamstrings and glutes, where as high bar/front squat are more quad dominant. As for Powerlifter vs O-lifter... they are entirely different sports. They both require lots of strength, but I won't go into that. Basically if you practice, you can probably O-lift.
604josh 7 months ago
@604josh Thanks for the response. But don't the glutes and hams get even more activation if you do a full range of motion(atg) O-style back squat? And then if you want more even more hip and lower back activation then why not do vary the training with deadlifts from a podium with a medium stance, using a clean or snatch grip? This squat video just looks like a modified good morning. Why collapse all the different exercises/tools into one ugly looking hybrid? It seems like a bad compromise.
brycecoad1 7 months ago
@brycecoad1 This style of squat is used in Rippetoe's Starting Strength program. This low bar squat gives the most muscle activation as far as glutes and hams, and even more so the deeper you squat. As for back work, I'm not so sure. Starting Strength is basically a 2 day full body workout designed for beginners. I don't understand what you're asking about back training, but the program Rippetoe advocates for beginners has deadlifts, if that helps.
604josh 7 months ago
@604josh Thanks, again. I found Rippetoe explaining his rationale in the video "High bar vs Low Bar Squats":
watch?v=mC5-g1Ugmgc
He also says it would be better for Olympic lifters to do back squats this way.
It was interesting to read the comments. Most people don't seemed convinced.
brycecoad1 7 months ago
@brycecoad1 Because these people never walk the walk. Just like Rippetoe. He's all about talk and talk. Never competed in olympics.
m5p944 6 months ago
@brycecoad1 Very well my friend. You have my respect. Finaly someone who gets the point of olympic ass to grass squat. Seems like you've been doing oly lift by your self. The big problem with this Ripptoe dude is that he never walk the walk. All he does is talk the talk. Never seen him in olympics all my life. I'm originaly from Belarus. Competed in weightlifting my self in 1996 Olympis in Atlanta(108kg). Ended up 4th.
m5p944 6 months ago
@m5p944 He has coached lots of oly lifters. What is your name?
tubermann1 6 months ago
@tubermann1 Wladimir Emelyanov. I'm sorry but I have never heard anything about Ripptoe in world class olympic weightlifting field. My couch was Leonid Taranenko. We're competed together in his last olympic in 1996 Atlanta. He was in 108+ category. He didn't finish due to pain in his hips. Our doctor Semenyakow pulled him away for good. Anyway I have a many friends cross the international field and I bet my buddy Shane Hamman would lough to death about Ripptoe's book.
m5p944 6 months ago
@m5p944 Rippetoe and Shane Hamman are actually friends - Rippetoe interviewed him in fact, on his site w w w . startingstrength . c o m
tubermann1 6 months ago
@tubermann1 Friends? Are you consider anybody who ever talk to you being your friend? This dude Rippetoe is a joke. He's something like Al Gore's global warming paranoia. Never walk the walk always talk the talk. This guy is nobody in olympic weightlifting.
m5p944 6 months ago
@m5p944 Good thing he's not an olympic weightlifter, or ever has been, then
vjohn82 6 months ago
@m5p944 Why don't you ask Shane if he considers Rippetoe a friend? You brought Shane up, and I bet you were surprised to know that they know each other and have discussed lifting together. Rippetoe is frankly on your side, and he's trying to make weightlifting viable in America. He brought thousands of people to strength training with his books, im surprised you're this disdainful of him simply because you dont like his squat. He did 600+ in competition, so its not like he's a complete weaking
tubermann1 6 months ago
he is squating two fast
stuntjerkin123 10 months ago
@stuntjerkin123 Says who? Go watch Pat Mendes squat.
daaaavveeeee 9 months ago
Go to vimeo and there's videos of a slightly older Rip doing 365x10 and 405x5. I'm sure everyone here will be squatting 405x5 when they're Rip's age. In fact, I bet everyone criticizing him here can squat 405x5. *snicker*
accushot9999 10 months ago
Notice his lower back rounding towards the bottom of the squat. Rippetoe actively discourages that in starting strength. As Rip would say, poor hamstring flexibility...
MrSmudger687 10 months ago
that's some strong lifting music
tootybb 10 months ago
It's like watching Yoda fight.
InvertedHorizon 10 months ago 30
@InvertedHorizon can you elaborate? would really like to understand that joke
FramtonDawgg 9 months ago
@FramtonDawgg Rippetoe the squat master is always shown instructing squats, but finally here is a video of him actually squatting.
Just like for Star Wars episodes 4, 5, 6, and 1, Yoda is a Jedi master who teaches, and is revered by other Jedi. Then in episode 2, he finally fights Cunt Dookie.
Boom elaborated.
InvertedHorizon 9 months ago
@InvertedHorizon boom, mind officially blown
FramtonDawgg 9 months ago
Rip is an awesome coach...but if someone posted this and didn't tell you this was Rip, what would you say?
drfitnessnow 10 months ago
@drfitnessnow Fuckin awful squats is what they'd say. As I said once before " Emporers new clothes".
astonrd 10 months ago