This is great stuff. I wonder why retatds are mentioning death metal in the comments. I like rock and roll, save the rock comments for rock videos maybe?
@iplongnin Lyapunov dedicated his etudes to the memory of Liszt. So, Liszt wrote his 12 etudes in FLAT keys, and Lyapunov wrote his 12 in SHARP ones :-)))
@lucidcatnap Don't most people listen to music for that purpose? I mean yea, I listen to music that doesn't appeal to me sometimes just to study it, but that's me. Anyway, I think that complexity can inform a piece's intrinsic value, just as simplicity can. I agree that music that sounds like catrape is unappealing, but none of the music I listen to sounds like that to me. And some people appreciate music that truly does sound like that, so hey.
@Djentard I like death metal, for the most part. I tend to not like the newer bands because a lot of them don't bring anything new to the genre. They just do what's worked over and over. Which is fine- I just think it's boring and cheesy. AAL and Periphery are popular. I wouldn't say they're as popular as rehash-bands. And they wouldn't be.
WTF its been ages since i last came here and you guys still talk death metal?
death metal can be good and varies much. eg, amon amarth, insomnium (<3), behemoth, vital remains, quo vadis, haggard and swallow the sun are all death metal but they all are soo different. they only ""problem"" for the rest of the world is the brutality and the vocals. but this is part of this music, so... otherwise it'd be gothic or heavy metal or smooth jazz
btw is it only me, or the sound has been disabled?
In case anybody is wondering, I believe the pianist for these etudes Hexameron has graciously uploaded is Konstantin Scherbakov. I'd like to see him live; he's also got a great set of Shostakovich Preludes & Fugues, as well as great recordings of Medtner's concertos.
Or better yet, give me good examples of pieces that show that "the technical complexity found in alot of Deathmetal can only be compared to classical music."
@MrRrrrvvvv Well Necrophagist has really good Technique and Diminished, but not much variety musically, good jazz rhythm. Prophecies of Loki - Stephan Forte is also really good, try Vitalij Kuprij - All his works are pretty good.
The band Winds has some pretty progressive metal and Opeth good progressive death. But I kind of agree, Its like comparing the root of music to the more styled genre branch off, it limits the music imho.. I love all music in its own way, ego gets in the way ;)
Classical music and Deathmetal are my two favorite genres by far. Yes, it does take a long time to get used to the vocals, but the technical complexity found in alot of Deathmetal can only be compared to classical music.
For those who enjoy both; Check out Fleshgod Apocalypse - Violation.
@Daeckarkatten Same here, might seem like a wierd combination but death metal (and metal in general) and classical music is one of the most enjoyable things i enjoy in life... and ofcourse, some jazz from time to time is always nice too :)
Fair enough. I just can't stand it when people compare metal to classical music as if it were somehow on the same musical and artistic level. Also, I really don't see that many similarities between the genres.
Death metal is one big noisy stream of shit with no dynamic contrast or interesting melodic progression whatsoever and on top of it all there's ridiculous grunting about cheesy evil stuff....it's laughable to compare metal to ths kind of classical music in any way. The end.
@MrRrrrvvvv I completely understand what you mean - I'm a big Scriabin fan, loving this music, and my best mate just chums Megadeth and everything else, thinking it to be superior to every other music on the planet - long live Lyapunov
@MrRrrrvvvv Regardless of your opinion, that's pretty ignorant to say. Musical preference is subjective and needs to stay that way. Not ALL death metal is like that, you have just been looking in the wrong places.
@MrRrrrvvvv Death metal often veers into that awful territory, but it doesn't have to.
And metal in general DEFINITELY does not have to. Bands like Animals As Leaders and Periphery make some of the most complex music I've heard outside of classical music, and it's not just complex for the sake of being so. But bands like that don't get very popular- the cheesy evil stuff does.
Anyway, this is an incredible piece. I know someone who is going to learn it and I'm so excited for her
@iamthebirdfearme Actually, the reason why bands like Periphery and Animals As Leaders are not as popular as the "cheesy evil stuff" is because of the "cheesy evil stuff" being older (late 80s and 90s) and Periphery and AAL really new bands, and those 2 bands are not unknown, they are actually very popular. They do get the attention they deserve.
And when talking about death metal, it's just not gore and "darkness", some death metal can be unbelievably technical and even moving if you will.
@iamthebirdfearme Some people listen to music for it's instrinsic value, not it's instrumental value. In other words, complexity really does mean shit. You can be as impressive as you want technically but no one will appreciate your music if you sound like a cat getting raped.
@iamthebirdfearme No, I dont think the Animals As Leaders are complex. They might adorn up their rhythm but their tonal language is the most simplistic and uncreative thing I have heard. Sure, maybe you could point to minimalism or something like that. Overall, they can play a chord or a 3 note figure over and over for minutes only because they layer several interesting rhythms. Rhythm without tonal language is like beatbox, and beatboxers arent very good writers, poets, singers...
@omgtkseth I have to agree with you that some of their songs are like that, I disagree that those songs are representative of their body of work. Anyway, something is complex if it is composed of multiple elements isn't it? So rhythm can be complex- polyrhythms, shifting and compound meters, etc. A percussion piece may be more complex once you add pitch (playing Workers Union on drums versus piano), but it is also complex without it. Does that make sense?
@iamthebirdfearme To me, by saying AAL's music is a series of interesting rhythms layered over one another you're saying their music is by definition complex.
And all beatboxers ever? That's a big generalization. I'm being picky, yes. :)
@iamthebirdfearme "Bands like Animals As Leaders and Periphery make some of the most complex music I've heard outside of classical music, " lol at you, sir. Stop listening your own classical music.
@KINGOFMETAL3592 I was a power metal, Metallica, Testament, Accept, et al fan for much of my life. Now just about all I find interesting is classical piano. You can never predict how you will change.
Just the technique... Piano technique... It is Liszt's techniques, but just piano techniques, to be able to play more accessible on the piano of course.
For even more Liszt: does someone notice the pattern at the end? 8th notes in bass clef and tripleted 16ths, with one rest and 2 notes played? Just like the stretta from TE no 10.
Many great compositions have been ... because people - just felt and lived in a certain way and composed that way - no more - and no less ... music can be between Liszt and Rachmaninov
Many great compositions have been ... because people - just felt and lived in a certain way and composed that way - no more - and no less ... music can be between Liszt and Rachmaninov!
This piece sounds absolutely nothing like Liszt. Liszt is a filthy wretch when it comes to composition. For every 100 bars there are 20 that are good. This piece is 100% original and 100% russian.
@nleguellec Gosh, you sure are mean. Its about taste anyway. Some people like liszt better the even chopin, just like some like sweet better then spicy or sour better then savory. It just depends on what you like.
And a lot of lyapunov's music is very lisztian. Try TE 5: Summer night, or TE 12: Elegy.
@thegreatapologist Believe it or not, but I actually like Franz Liszt's music. I only call him a wretch, because he will formulate a great melody, and then distort and taint it with useless notes that serve no purpose. The perfect example is his ninth etude. Few pieces are granted such a profoundly beautiful melody, and even fewer have been mishandled so badly. Another example is the 19th rhapsody. Who on earth spends two pages introducing a piece? It's unheard of, but the piece itself is divine
@thegreatapologist Well, I've actuallt changed my opinion quite a bit. I recently heard Liszt's sonata for the first time and It's absolutely amazing. I have almost completely changed my mind about Liszt. About Lyapunov, however, I still maintain that this piece has not a note of Liszt in it. not a whiff or hint of Lisztian melody, and not a pinch of Hungarian passion. More of a shot of russian romanticism.
@nleguellec If you analyze the score and compare it to the scores of Liszt, you will see similarities. They don't appear obvious to the ear in most pieces, although the piano writing in the Rhapsody on a Ukranian Theme is very Lisztian. As for melody, he uses a motif style of writing similar to the Germanic melodic style as set forth by Beethoven.
@thegreatapologist You misunderstand me. I am not at all saying that Lyapunov is not sinilar to Liszt, I'm saying that this particular piece holds no obvious resemblance to Liszt.
@nleguellec To quote f1f1s:The left hand is sometimes absolutely identical to Liszt's F minor Transcendental. The upwards passages at ~1:25 and 1:38 are similar to those from Rhapsody 6. 3:45 - left hand is like Chopin op. 25 No. 11 final. The tradition of alternating left and right hands to get 3 sequential notes leads to ashes of Alkan (and pieces of left hand downwards passages).
@thegreatapologist Yes, but do not forget that Liszt's etude in f minor is based almost entirely on Chopin's etude in f minor. If you look at the notes you can find similarities no doubt, seeing as how liszt wrote hundreds upon hundreds of piano pieces and the entire recorded works of his filled 96 cds, but when listening, you can see that the melody, the descending storm-like broken chords, are original inventions of lyapunov.
@nleguellec@nleguellec Almost entirely? First off, what's wrong with that? A lot of composers draw upon previous innovations, whether they know it or not. For example, Alkan used broken chords in several works, as did many composers before him. Also, Schenkerian analysis states that no melody is entirely original, but is derived from common elements and motifs.
@nleguellec Secondly, there are many differences between the Chopin etude and the Liszt etude. Here are a few:The Chopin's Etude runs under 2.5 minutes, while Liszt's runs around 5 minutes
The first (slightly more than) 2 pages, the middle (slightly more than) 3 pages, and the last 2 pages of the Liszt Etude have nothing in common with the Chopin Etude.
Chopin Etude ends in pianissimo. Liszt Etude ends in Fortissimo.
Liszt Etude is fast and furious, and more like Chopin Etude Op 10 No 4 style
@thegreatapologist I just went through the sheet music, and 43 measures of this piece were based either rythmically or melodically, whether diatonic or not, on the theme from the first two measure of chopin's etude. One cannot disagree that without chopins f minor etude, there would be no Liszt etude. Or maybe there would be, but it would be quite different. Anyways, it matters not. The original argument was whether this piece is Listian, and so far I've not been convinced.
@nleguellec Liszt wrote the first version of that piece when he was sixteen, before Chopin wrote op 10 and well before Liszt even knew of Chopin's existence.
@gojewla Have you ever seen or played the first version of that etude? I've played all three, the first version is a completely different piece entirely. Look at the sheet music, the melody, the study, and everything about it is different except for the general chord progressions. You might want to check that out before you make comments like this.
This etude is awesome! I'm studying it right now and I think this is not hard as it seems (or as I thought it was): maybe I'll be able to play it soon :D
Okay, i see the all the posts asking why Lya and Alkan aren't as well known as Chopin and Liszt. Its because they're not in their league, not even close. Their melodies are forgettable, in fact, almost impossible to recall the next day. Conversely, Chopin came up with timeless melodies and never added unnecessary notes to convolute his pieces in an attempt to sound more complex, like the above. Sometimes less is more. Ex. Chopin's prelude 4 (or 6) is 100x easier and 100x better the above.
@debussy84 hmm... Their melodies are NOT forgettable in fact. I have this piece on CD and when I listen this, I CAN remember it on the next day, quite easily by the way.
1. Definitely not forgettable. In fact, Laypunov's melodies are, I think, the best thing about him. This, while a nice work, is not in his style and not him at his best. I recommend his concerto No. 1 in E flat. That piece deserves to be in the standard repertoire.
2. There are not extra notes to sound complex. It serves the programmatic purpose of making it sound like a storm.
@thegreatapologist hmmm, we agree to disagree than. And yes there are extra, unecessary notes everywhere in his repetoire. I wasn't talking about this piece specifically. I took a quick glance to see which piece by Lya had the most viewed to ensure that people would see it/respond to it which is the only reason i choose to post my comments here.
As for Liszt, his transcendental etudes and other pieces were show-off pieces full of unnecessary spice to convolute what are simple background melodies. (He liked to impress the ladies with his pianistic acrobatics) But his pieces were extremely original, creative, and like Chopin he also came up with timeless melodies. Sorry, but for me Lyapunov can’t be compared to Chopin or Liszt. This is too much Liszt and too little originality.
@debussy84 Yes this. Really a lot of it's all about the good ole melodies. Alkan or Lypunov has nothing in their output that can be compared to Liszt Mazzepa or liebestraum or sonnet 104 or chopin raindrop prelude or revolutionary etude or concerto 2. Thats why they don't get no love. and liszt knew that all that technical complexity and showboating he put into his works was all bullshit and wasnt what really made them great.
1. What is the purpose of a piece of music, if not to be performed?
2. They are not simple. TE 8?
3. Originality is only valuable if it provides enjoyment. Who cares about originality so long as it still sounds good? Everyone is ripping of the Greek scales and pitches, but no one cares.
4. Simple melodies are not bad, as long as the composer is clever. Beethoven's Fifth is an excellent example. Its just two pitches. Why is it so interesting? Because he's clever. So's Liszt.
1:00 reminds me of Liszt's Transcendental Etude no. 10. FYI Liszt is my favorite composer and I looooove Lyapunov. Can't believe I didn't know of him til a week ago You all should listen to his Sonata it's amazing.
1:00 reminds me of Liszt f minor transcendental Etude no.10. You can tell Lyapunov was really inspired by Liszt. This piece is pretty amazing and intense
Truly wonderful stuff amidst all this inane welter of Sorabji and Finnissy blatherwocky. Lyapunov writes in the idiomatic etude style of List and Chopin and moves on and on in a rhapsodic direction (reminds me a bit of Dohnanyi) and looks terribly difficult for an amateur. Thanks, and hope to hear more from this neglected master.
@nearenough3 I can't agree with you more. Lyapunov is an incredible master of his art and I think it's horrific the majority of people have never heard of him.. If I ever am able to play at this level, I will surely spend my life spreading music like Lyapunov's to people. :D
Thank you si much for letting me get aquainted with rare jewels, and unknown masterpieces of music, from the world's most unfairly forgotten composers.
In the US the cold War politics blocked anything good that was Russian. Now so very long afterward we get a glimpse. I'm very glad to hear these works.
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What boring unmemorable note running.Where is da music .Liszt f minor so much more!For pianists who think anyone cant learn how to move fingers evenly with strength.But taste .Liapunov better left forgotten.This is not even interesting.just another product of earlier Russian tradition.
@lovesGenet o_O... that comment is pretty ignorant... alot of his pieces are very lyrical and many of the top pianists enjoy playing his works.... who are you to question whether his compositions are good... upload some of yours and we will decide how BAD it is in comparison. this piece is not just a piece that shows of technique but has a sensitive side to it to... you can see the tempest brewing when you listen to this
The left hand is sometimes absolutely identical to Liszt's F minor Transcendental. The upwards passages at ~1:25 and 1:38 are similar to those from Rhapsody 6. 3:45 - left hand is like Chopin op. 25 No. 11 final. The tradition of alternating left and right hands to get 3 sequential notes leads to ashes of Alkan (and pieces of left hand downwards passages).
BUT I cannot hear any Liszt in this piece. =( I can see him in the score. =] The sound resembles Scriabin and Rachmaninov.
@f1f1s Why do you have to compare this composer to others? It is impossible to know if they are related. There are only so many combinations of notes on the piano, we are bound to see some similarities. Lyapynov doesn't "sound like" Chopin, Liszt, etc... He sounds like Lyapunov... Himself...
I have mixed feelings about this. I instantly love it and am blown away by the virtuosity required, but it doesn't really have much melody or melodic development. By the end it seems just like impressive, I don't know... virtuouso exercises... preparing for the real music.... Still... wow! Thanks for posting this with the music!
Amazing pianistic skills.
ElTGV 1 day ago
@omegaowa True!
iamthebirdfearme 3 days ago
@Sphereal I'm sorry, what?
iamthebirdfearme 3 days ago
the complexity, the aestethic, the filosophy, the innovations behind great classics are not comparable to any modern band/artist
anyway every music has his scope
matteoboscolotube 1 week ago
This is great stuff. I wonder why retatds are mentioning death metal in the comments. I like rock and roll, save the rock comments for rock videos maybe?
BerserkaViking 2 weeks ago
can somebody give me a midi file of this, or, at least, tell me where i can find it?
gsarci2011 3 weeks ago
A piece clearly in debt to Liszt's 10th transcendental etude. Impressive playing, acute and exciting! Who is the pianist, may I ask?
iplongnin 1 month ago
@iplongnin Lyapunov dedicated his etudes to the memory of Liszt. So, Liszt wrote his 12 etudes in FLAT keys, and Lyapunov wrote his 12 in SHARP ones :-)))
Quue7n 2 weeks ago
@lucidcatnap Don't most people listen to music for that purpose? I mean yea, I listen to music that doesn't appeal to me sometimes just to study it, but that's me. Anyway, I think that complexity can inform a piece's intrinsic value, just as simplicity can. I agree that music that sounds like catrape is unappealing, but none of the music I listen to sounds like that to me. And some people appreciate music that truly does sound like that, so hey.
iamthebirdfearme 1 month ago
Shut the fuck up about metal
KingCrimson776 1 month ago
can't for a top comment to relate to the music again and not metal!
chutdigadut 1 month ago in playlist Lyapunov 8
@Djentard I like death metal, for the most part. I tend to not like the newer bands because a lot of them don't bring anything new to the genre. They just do what's worked over and over. Which is fine- I just think it's boring and cheesy. AAL and Periphery are popular. I wouldn't say they're as popular as rehash-bands. And they wouldn't be.
iamthebirdfearme 2 months ago
Thank you very much !
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whenmyguitar 3 months ago
carbon copy of liszt
2009xellos 3 months ago
@2009xellos Maybe you have to make another "copy" of Liszt, if you think it's bad; then, upload to Youtube.
sultanov10 2 months ago
WTF its been ages since i last came here and you guys still talk death metal?
death metal can be good and varies much. eg, amon amarth, insomnium (<3), behemoth, vital remains, quo vadis, haggard and swallow the sun are all death metal but they all are soo different. they only ""problem"" for the rest of the world is the brutality and the vocals. but this is part of this music, so... otherwise it'd be gothic or heavy metal or smooth jazz
btw is it only me, or the sound has been disabled?
fuckslipknot21 3 months ago
In case anybody is wondering, I believe the pianist for these etudes Hexameron has graciously uploaded is Konstantin Scherbakov. I'd like to see him live; he's also got a great set of Shostakovich Preludes & Fugues, as well as great recordings of Medtner's concertos.
razegfx 3 months ago
can anybody upload this in synthesia?
gsarci2011 3 months ago
who played this?
gsarci2011 4 months ago in playlist Liked
Mosolov's Iron Foundry counts as metal? :P
turboturbante 4 months ago
Or better yet, give me good examples of pieces that show that "the technical complexity found in alot of Deathmetal can only be compared to classical music."
MrRrrrvvvv 4 months ago
@MrRrrrvvvv One VERY good example: Meshuggah.
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@MrRrrrvvvv There are some similarities, of couse im not talking about all subgenres of metal or classical. these include:
1) Some common scales (in particular the harmonic minor scale, look it up).
2) Harmonized leading melodies, very common in classical and metal.
3) cyclic key changes during melodies, this can be found in other genres too
A good example of a classical sonding metal song in my opinion: The human abstract - vela together we await the storm
themindbusterator 4 months ago
@MrRrrrvvvv Well Necrophagist has really good Technique and Diminished, but not much variety musically, good jazz rhythm. Prophecies of Loki - Stephan Forte is also really good, try Vitalij Kuprij - All his works are pretty good.
The band Winds has some pretty progressive metal and Opeth good progressive death. But I kind of agree, Its like comparing the root of music to the more styled genre branch off, it limits the music imho.. I love all music in its own way, ego gets in the way ;)
Kioooi 3 months ago
Whatever, I stick to my words. It's my opinion. STOP comparing it to classical music for the love of god.
MrRrrrvvvv 4 months ago
DEATH METAL... are you referring to ARSENIC???
cheradinine8 4 months ago
Classical music and Deathmetal are my two favorite genres by far. Yes, it does take a long time to get used to the vocals, but the technical complexity found in alot of Deathmetal can only be compared to classical music.
For those who enjoy both; Check out Fleshgod Apocalypse - Violation.
Daeckarkatten 4 months ago
@Daeckarkatten Same here, might seem like a wierd combination but death metal (and metal in general) and classical music is one of the most enjoyable things i enjoy in life... and ofcourse, some jazz from time to time is always nice too :)
Djentard 2 months ago
Fair enough. I just can't stand it when people compare metal to classical music as if it were somehow on the same musical and artistic level. Also, I really don't see that many similarities between the genres.
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RodrigoElustondo 4 months ago
who played this one?
gsarci2011 5 months ago in playlist Liked
i can see why he died from a heart attack
ILSEPIC 5 months ago
sounds like chopin
mogpops3 5 months ago
Death metal is one big noisy stream of shit with no dynamic contrast or interesting melodic progression whatsoever and on top of it all there's ridiculous grunting about cheesy evil stuff....it's laughable to compare metal to ths kind of classical music in any way. The end.
MrRrrrvvvv 6 months ago 4
@MrRrrrvvvv I completely understand what you mean - I'm a big Scriabin fan, loving this music, and my best mate just chums Megadeth and everything else, thinking it to be superior to every other music on the planet - long live Lyapunov
Bendertoo 5 months ago
@MrRrrrvvvv Regardless of your opinion, that's pretty ignorant to say. Musical preference is subjective and needs to stay that way. Not ALL death metal is like that, you have just been looking in the wrong places.
chellepratt 4 months ago 5
@MrRrrrvvvv Death metal often veers into that awful territory, but it doesn't have to.
And metal in general DEFINITELY does not have to. Bands like Animals As Leaders and Periphery make some of the most complex music I've heard outside of classical music, and it's not just complex for the sake of being so. But bands like that don't get very popular- the cheesy evil stuff does.
Anyway, this is an incredible piece. I know someone who is going to learn it and I'm so excited for her
iamthebirdfearme 4 months ago 21
@iamthebirdfearme Actually, the reason why bands like Periphery and Animals As Leaders are not as popular as the "cheesy evil stuff" is because of the "cheesy evil stuff" being older (late 80s and 90s) and Periphery and AAL really new bands, and those 2 bands are not unknown, they are actually very popular. They do get the attention they deserve.
And when talking about death metal, it's just not gore and "darkness", some death metal can be unbelievably technical and even moving if you will.
Djentard 2 months ago
@iamthebirdfearme Some people listen to music for it's instrinsic value, not it's instrumental value. In other words, complexity really does mean shit. You can be as impressive as you want technically but no one will appreciate your music if you sound like a cat getting raped.
LucidCatnap 1 month ago
@iamthebirdfearme No, I dont think the Animals As Leaders are complex. They might adorn up their rhythm but their tonal language is the most simplistic and uncreative thing I have heard. Sure, maybe you could point to minimalism or something like that. Overall, they can play a chord or a 3 note figure over and over for minutes only because they layer several interesting rhythms. Rhythm without tonal language is like beatbox, and beatboxers arent very good writers, poets, singers...
omgtkseth 1 week ago
@omgtkseth I have to agree with you that some of their songs are like that, I disagree that those songs are representative of their body of work. Anyway, something is complex if it is composed of multiple elements isn't it? So rhythm can be complex- polyrhythms, shifting and compound meters, etc. A percussion piece may be more complex once you add pitch (playing Workers Union on drums versus piano), but it is also complex without it. Does that make sense?
iamthebirdfearme 1 week ago
@iamthebirdfearme To me, by saying AAL's music is a series of interesting rhythms layered over one another you're saying their music is by definition complex.
And all beatboxers ever? That's a big generalization. I'm being picky, yes. :)
iamthebirdfearme 1 week ago
@iamthebirdfearme "Bands like Animals As Leaders and Periphery make some of the most complex music I've heard outside of classical music, " lol at you, sir. Stop listening your own classical music.
Sphereal 4 days ago
@iamthebirdfearme Dream Theater. That is all.
:P.
OmegaOwA 3 days ago
@MrRrrrvvvv i love when people so confidently exude such profound stupidity. thanks for the laugh
DukeMcManhands 4 months ago
@MrRrrrvvvv And ofcourse, it's coming from someone who haven't listened to anything else then Cannibal Corpse and Mayhem, right?
Djentard 2 months ago
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karasucana 6 months ago
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karasucana 6 months ago
how the hell did a death metal guy like me get to these vids GET ME OUT!!!
KINGOFMETAL3592 6 months ago
@KINGOFMETAL3592 death metal is just classical with make up on
WhoAteMyTacos 6 months ago
@WhoAteMyTacos yeah right
KINGOFMETAL3592 6 months ago
@KINGOFMETAL3592 I was a power metal, Metallica, Testament, Accept, et al fan for much of my life. Now just about all I find interesting is classical piano. You can never predict how you will change.
crobc1 5 months ago
@crobc1 i was always a combination of both :>. playing piano for 10 years and listening to those bands since i know for myself.
xAnonymousss 5 months ago
Played by DJ Konstantin Scherbakov. Word.
liszt141 6 months ago 2
Who's the pianist?
rayclentchris 7 months ago
Does anyone know who the pianist is?
MetaTheorist 7 months ago
can you please upload lyapunov's trascendental etude no. 1? thank you...
gsarci2011 7 months ago
it has the atmosphere of a music student trying to impress his teacher.
much like Chopin's 1st sonata.
But both pieces are among my favourits.
19871014 7 months ago
You can see similarities in the figuration with Liszt's Transcendental Etude No. 10 in f minor.
MrStrav81 7 months ago
beautiful but TOO MUCH OBVIOUS TAKEN FROM LISZT
ansonyeung825 7 months ago
@ansonyeung825
Just the technique... Piano technique... It is Liszt's techniques, but just piano techniques, to be able to play more accessible on the piano of course.
LinkBulletBill 6 months ago
sounds like john fields.....BAM! i went there, yes i did....
yashamaruism 7 months ago
my god this piece is awesome, so dynamic and energetic.. and what fabulous playing!
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Ir0nman86 8 months ago
For even more Liszt: does someone notice the pattern at the end? 8th notes in bass clef and tripleted 16ths, with one rest and 2 notes played? Just like the stretta from TE no 10.
liszt141 9 months ago 2
It sounds russian to me. the liszt is in there for technique i guess.
I have to agree that it feels rachmaninov-ish.
Maybe occasionally a hint of liszt and even chopin.
FlyingBlackAndWhite 9 months ago
really sounds like Chopin's ocean etude + the last mvnt of Beethoven's tempest Sonata if you ask me.
rojorunner27 9 months ago
He is a brother of a famous Russian mathematician
LesbianStraightGay 10 months ago
beautifully played and a nice piece of music
12345qazx1 10 months ago
Quite interesting
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BabeyyJaeaa70 10 months ago
This is great .I love these stormy, highly melodic, 'late-romantic' pieces.
Another such piece I like is Catoire - Etude Fantastique, Check it out on YT.
RpianoV 11 months ago
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Many great compositions have been ... because people - just felt and lived in a certain way and composed that way - no more - and no less ... music can be between Liszt and Rachmaninov
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eri201100 1 year ago
Many great compositions have been ... because people - just felt and lived in a certain way and composed that way - no more - and no less ... music can be between Liszt and Rachmaninov!
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eri201100 1 year ago
great indeed, great composer
tuomas06 1 year ago
Who says that there aren't fine compositions after 1875? This piece is richly melodic and it highly expressive and shows very high artistic value.
japavlic1 1 year ago
Where can I find a music font that will replicate the notes above? Or is Petrucci the best?
ohquffy 1 year ago
This piece sounds absolutely nothing like Liszt. Liszt is a filthy wretch when it comes to composition. For every 100 bars there are 20 that are good. This piece is 100% original and 100% russian.
nleguellec 1 year ago
@nleguellec Gosh, you sure are mean. Its about taste anyway. Some people like liszt better the even chopin, just like some like sweet better then spicy or sour better then savory. It just depends on what you like.
And a lot of lyapunov's music is very lisztian. Try TE 5: Summer night, or TE 12: Elegy.
thegreatapologist 1 year ago
@thegreatapologist Believe it or not, but I actually like Franz Liszt's music. I only call him a wretch, because he will formulate a great melody, and then distort and taint it with useless notes that serve no purpose. The perfect example is his ninth etude. Few pieces are granted such a profoundly beautiful melody, and even fewer have been mishandled so badly. Another example is the 19th rhapsody. Who on earth spends two pages introducing a piece? It's unheard of, but the piece itself is divine
nleguellec 1 year ago
@nleguellec Hmm. I disagree. To me, it sounds like every note is serving a purpose.
But who knows?
PS: No. 9 is not my favorite TE of liszt's either.
thegreatapologist 1 year ago
@thegreatapologist Well, I've actuallt changed my opinion quite a bit. I recently heard Liszt's sonata for the first time and It's absolutely amazing. I have almost completely changed my mind about Liszt. About Lyapunov, however, I still maintain that this piece has not a note of Liszt in it. not a whiff or hint of Lisztian melody, and not a pinch of Hungarian passion. More of a shot of russian romanticism.
nleguellec 9 months ago
@nleguellec If you analyze the score and compare it to the scores of Liszt, you will see similarities. They don't appear obvious to the ear in most pieces, although the piano writing in the Rhapsody on a Ukranian Theme is very Lisztian. As for melody, he uses a motif style of writing similar to the Germanic melodic style as set forth by Beethoven.
thegreatapologist 9 months ago
@thegreatapologist You misunderstand me. I am not at all saying that Lyapunov is not sinilar to Liszt, I'm saying that this particular piece holds no obvious resemblance to Liszt.
nleguellec 9 months ago
@nleguellec To quote f1f1s:The left hand is sometimes absolutely identical to Liszt's F minor Transcendental. The upwards passages at ~1:25 and 1:38 are similar to those from Rhapsody 6. 3:45 - left hand is like Chopin op. 25 No. 11 final. The tradition of alternating left and right hands to get 3 sequential notes leads to ashes of Alkan (and pieces of left hand downwards passages).
thegreatapologist 9 months ago
@thegreatapologist Yes, but do not forget that Liszt's etude in f minor is based almost entirely on Chopin's etude in f minor. If you look at the notes you can find similarities no doubt, seeing as how liszt wrote hundreds upon hundreds of piano pieces and the entire recorded works of his filled 96 cds, but when listening, you can see that the melody, the descending storm-like broken chords, are original inventions of lyapunov.
nleguellec 9 months ago
@nleguellec @nleguellec Almost entirely? First off, what's wrong with that? A lot of composers draw upon previous innovations, whether they know it or not. For example, Alkan used broken chords in several works, as did many composers before him. Also, Schenkerian analysis states that no melody is entirely original, but is derived from common elements and motifs.
thegreatapologist 9 months ago
@nleguellec Secondly, there are many differences between the Chopin etude and the Liszt etude. Here are a few:The Chopin's Etude runs under 2.5 minutes, while Liszt's runs around 5 minutes
The first (slightly more than) 2 pages, the middle (slightly more than) 3 pages, and the last 2 pages of the Liszt Etude have nothing in common with the Chopin Etude.
Chopin Etude ends in pianissimo. Liszt Etude ends in Fortissimo.
Liszt Etude is fast and furious, and more like Chopin Etude Op 10 No 4 style
thegreatapologist 9 months ago
@nleguellec And finally, Chopin did the same sort of thing. Op 25/7 comes straight from "Norma", by Bellini.
thegreatapologist 9 months ago
@thegreatapologist I just went through the sheet music, and 43 measures of this piece were based either rythmically or melodically, whether diatonic or not, on the theme from the first two measure of chopin's etude. One cannot disagree that without chopins f minor etude, there would be no Liszt etude. Or maybe there would be, but it would be quite different. Anyways, it matters not. The original argument was whether this piece is Listian, and so far I've not been convinced.
nleguellec 9 months ago
@nleguellec Lyapunov wrote all 12 of these etudes as Homage to Liszt.
chutdigadut 7 months ago
@chutdigadut So did Chopin, but nobody is going to tell me thatn his sound anything like Liszt.
nleguellec 7 months ago 2
@nleguellec Liszt wrote the first version of that piece when he was sixteen, before Chopin wrote op 10 and well before Liszt even knew of Chopin's existence.
gojewla 1 month ago
@gojewla Have you ever seen or played the first version of that etude? I've played all three, the first version is a completely different piece entirely. Look at the sheet music, the melody, the study, and everything about it is different except for the general chord progressions. You might want to check that out before you make comments like this.
nleguellec 1 month ago
@nleguellec Why, yes I have.
gojewla 1 month ago
Great piece but if someone told me Liszt had written it I'd totally believe them if I didn't know otherwise.
Pageboy72 1 year ago
wonderful, wonderful music.........
thinkgreenlovepurple 1 year ago
Who is playing?
AlexandreJdB 1 year ago
@AlexandreJdB I think it's Konstantin Scherbakov. Bouth recordings sound like the same.
Pallabon1 1 year ago
@Pallabon1 It is indeed Scherbakov.
sanctusignis 1 year ago
This etude is awesome! I'm studying it right now and I think this is not hard as it seems (or as I thought it was): maybe I'll be able to play it soon :D
JackDuluoz89 1 year ago
this guy must be rachmaninov's older brother.
Piggywarz 1 year ago
Okay, i see the all the posts asking why Lya and Alkan aren't as well known as Chopin and Liszt. Its because they're not in their league, not even close. Their melodies are forgettable, in fact, almost impossible to recall the next day. Conversely, Chopin came up with timeless melodies and never added unnecessary notes to convolute his pieces in an attempt to sound more complex, like the above. Sometimes less is more. Ex. Chopin's prelude 4 (or 6) is 100x easier and 100x better the above.
debussy84 1 year ago
@debussy84 hmm... Their melodies are NOT forgettable in fact. I have this piece on CD and when I listen this, I CAN remember it on the next day, quite easily by the way.
polynoominen 1 year ago
@debussy84
1. Definitely not forgettable. In fact, Laypunov's melodies are, I think, the best thing about him. This, while a nice work, is not in his style and not him at his best. I recommend his concerto No. 1 in E flat. That piece deserves to be in the standard repertoire.
2. There are not extra notes to sound complex. It serves the programmatic purpose of making it sound like a storm.
thegreatapologist 1 year ago
@thegreatapologist hmmm, we agree to disagree than. And yes there are extra, unecessary notes everywhere in his repetoire. I wasn't talking about this piece specifically. I took a quick glance to see which piece by Lya had the most viewed to ensure that people would see it/respond to it which is the only reason i choose to post my comments here.
debussy84 1 year ago
@debussy84 Well, I have no idea what pieces you are talking about, then. However, I'm sure I could provide a defense for each piece. :)
thegreatapologist 1 year ago
As for Liszt, his transcendental etudes and other pieces were show-off pieces full of unnecessary spice to convolute what are simple background melodies. (He liked to impress the ladies with his pianistic acrobatics) But his pieces were extremely original, creative, and like Chopin he also came up with timeless melodies. Sorry, but for me Lyapunov can’t be compared to Chopin or Liszt. This is too much Liszt and too little originality.
debussy84 1 year ago
@debussy84 Yes this. Really a lot of it's all about the good ole melodies. Alkan or Lypunov has nothing in their output that can be compared to Liszt Mazzepa or liebestraum or sonnet 104 or chopin raindrop prelude or revolutionary etude or concerto 2. Thats why they don't get no love. and liszt knew that all that technical complexity and showboating he put into his works was all bullshit and wasnt what really made them great.
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
@debussy84
1. What is the purpose of a piece of music, if not to be performed?
2. They are not simple. TE 8?
3. Originality is only valuable if it provides enjoyment. Who cares about originality so long as it still sounds good? Everyone is ripping of the Greek scales and pitches, but no one cares.
4. Simple melodies are not bad, as long as the composer is clever. Beethoven's Fifth is an excellent example. Its just two pitches. Why is it so interesting? Because he's clever. So's Liszt.
thegreatapologist 1 year ago 2
1:00 reminds me of Liszt's Transcendental Etude no. 10. FYI Liszt is my favorite composer and I looooove Lyapunov. Can't believe I didn't know of him til a week ago You all should listen to his Sonata it's amazing.
cedricrlongreen 1 year ago
1:00 reminds me of Liszt f minor transcendental Etude no.10. You can tell Lyapunov was really inspired by Liszt. This piece is pretty amazing and intense
cedricrlongreen 1 year ago
my heart ache
simplerachel11 1 year ago
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chutdigadut 1 year ago
Great Art!
kKpeaceKk 1 year ago
This composition is mind boggling. But seriously, who the hell played this? That is one of the best piano performances I have ever heard in my life.
kobesunset 1 year ago
The beginning kind of resembles the bells of Moscow.
mrnanovideos 1 year ago
Ironically, this sounds a bit like the presto movement of Scriabin's sonata fantasy no.2 :D
Sort of a more accessible version.
th3wing3dpaint3r 1 year ago
OMG!!!! Its just wonderful
AlexandreJdB 1 year ago
Truly wonderful stuff amidst all this inane welter of Sorabji and Finnissy blatherwocky. Lyapunov writes in the idiomatic etude style of List and Chopin and moves on and on in a rhapsodic direction (reminds me a bit of Dohnanyi) and looks terribly difficult for an amateur. Thanks, and hope to hear more from this neglected master.
nearenough3 1 year ago 2
@nearenough3 I can't agree with you more. Lyapunov is an incredible master of his art and I think it's horrific the majority of people have never heard of him.. If I ever am able to play at this level, I will surely spend my life spreading music like Lyapunov's to people. :D
EdmondDantesLeComte 1 year ago
Thank you si much for letting me get aquainted with rare jewels, and unknown masterpieces of music, from the world's most unfairly forgotten composers.
ThePenguin1995 1 year ago
very nice
alex2east 1 year ago
Yeah, I have never heard of him before either. Boy, it kinda takes the wind out of the Rach! Very tasteful, well written.
mikern2001 1 year ago
WOW...never heard this before. Wonderful piece and performance!
chimayai 1 year ago
liszt orage meets transcendental # 10?
mikejr41387 1 year ago
diffi-fucking-cult
ToxicLabProductions 1 year ago
Thank you very much for posting!!!
Would it be too much trouble to send me the score?
javiertw89 1 year ago
whos playing??
AnnaLRussell 1 year ago
In the US the cold War politics blocked anything good that was Russian. Now so very long afterward we get a glimpse. I'm very glad to hear these works.
tango2pasos 1 year ago 2
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What boring unmemorable note running.Where is da music .Liszt f minor so much more!For pianists who think anyone cant learn how to move fingers evenly with strength.But taste .Liapunov better left forgotten.This is not even interesting.just another product of earlier Russian tradition.
lovesGenet 1 year ago
@lovesGenet o_O... that comment is pretty ignorant... alot of his pieces are very lyrical and many of the top pianists enjoy playing his works.... who are you to question whether his compositions are good... upload some of yours and we will decide how BAD it is in comparison. this piece is not just a piece that shows of technique but has a sensitive side to it to... you can see the tempest brewing when you listen to this
maddorox 1 year ago 2
I can't believe this Etude isn't more popular than it is.
It's crazy, dramatic and astonishing.
I have never heard of Lyapunov but now I will look out for this astonishingly mad composer haha!
Asphyyxia 1 year ago 10
wow. well played.
derekoppen 2 years ago
What a pianist ! I know this piece (and all the other studies) by Liszt expert Louis Kentner, what I once will upload for you.
Thanks for this !
EtrofOnaip 2 years ago 2
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The left hand is sometimes absolutely identical to Liszt's F minor Transcendental. The upwards passages at ~1:25 and 1:38 are similar to those from Rhapsody 6. 3:45 - left hand is like Chopin op. 25 No. 11 final. The tradition of alternating left and right hands to get 3 sequential notes leads to ashes of Alkan (and pieces of left hand downwards passages).
BUT I cannot hear any Liszt in this piece. =( I can see him in the score. =] The sound resembles Scriabin and Rachmaninov.
I'm a Russian!<3
f1f1s 2 years ago 30
@f1f1s Then you are blind to a large part of this piece!
123eldest 5 months ago
@f1f1s and no 3:45 is not like the final part of op 25 no. 11.
123eldest 5 months ago
@f1f1s The opening theme that repeats sounds much like Liszt's 12th transcendental? Or? =D
addeex1 5 months ago
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@f1f1s The opening theme that repeats sounds much like Liszt's 12th transcendental? Or? =D
addeex1 5 months ago
@f1f1s Why do you have to compare this composer to others? It is impossible to know if they are related. There are only so many combinations of notes on the piano, we are bound to see some similarities. Lyapynov doesn't "sound like" Chopin, Liszt, etc... He sounds like Lyapunov... Himself...
Lisztman88 5 months ago
Thanks for this, I had not even heard of this composer.
Troybeallad 2 years ago
Lyapunov - Roslavets - Lourie and so many others. Genuine talents from Russia.... thank you so much Hexameron for making us discover them
minasgekos 2 years ago
THIS....... is music
chutdigadut 2 years ago 2
Thanks for going to the effort of matching the score to the music.
whatsmylogin 2 years ago 3
Damn! That's sooo hard to play!
felix0911176727 2 years ago 2
I have mixed feelings about this. I instantly love it and am blown away by the virtuosity required, but it doesn't really have much melody or melodic development. By the end it seems just like impressive, I don't know... virtuouso exercises... preparing for the real music.... Still... wow! Thanks for posting this with the music!
dallaspianophile 2 years ago 4
O GREAT ALLAH! This is monumentally transcendental! !@#$%^&*()!!!!
MrFrenchBulldog 2 years ago
..what is the best practice drill on the piano to make your smallest finger "strong" to touch?
TheOscar7000 2 years ago
@TheOscar7000 Robert Schumann had some good ideas about that ;)
OpenCadence78 2 years ago 3
lolololol :D
ColtonBrook 2 years ago
play bach fugues or just find pieces that mke you use the pinky alot,also playing pieces with big chords can help your hand
kepler101 2 years ago
Henselt was good with big chords, he´s unknown, but very chopin-y and GREAT!! :D
addeex1 2 years ago
Guitar Hero.
alreadytaken334 2 years ago 4
HAHAHA
chutdigadut 2 years ago
The Liszt finger technical studies helped my 4th finger (both hands)... and Hanon is always good
MEpianist 2 years ago
I would take this peace to play but does it worth to spend time on it...its not have some graet melody just technical difficulties...
predoje 2 years ago
If you are gonna play it to a recital you shouldn't even think about it..............
theo1ch 2 years ago
great piece,but too much obvious taken from liszt.
Achtelnote 2 years ago 9
Yes, it has elements of liszt, but that is not problem. Its problem that sounds little on liszt...
predoje 2 years ago 5
lovely i love it!
imsohasome 2 years ago
WONDERFUL!! the pianist too
DEEZA95 2 years ago
love this! If i remember rightly, these etudes are a direct nod to Liszt's TE's, so much so that the final etude (12) is dedicated to Liszt?
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niazi1985 2 years ago
Lyapunov - the Russian Liszt.
melioxxmelio 2 years ago 7