uhm i think we should cut kobe some slack, he came out of highschool to play basketball not many like that, and highschool ball is diffrent then NBA ball more intense, so we gotta accept that kobe isnt refined yet and hes playing NBAs monster so therefore kobe wasnt that bad but i guess if anyone played jordan we would all lose execpt maybe chamberlain
dell harris was full of shit @4:31 even jordan looked confused why take kobe out of thed game so often he was never intimdated by jordan just eager but then again he was only 19/20 yrs old
I have trouble believing MJ had a speech coach first off from even the earliest interviews you can tell Michael Jordan was a smooth talker. He is also very educated unlike alot of players who stutter and sound like they barely got out of high school.
Yes MJ is a good teacher and he talk smooth, but when you watched his early vids u will find that he is not as good as now.
People like MJ not only want to be successfulf player, but also successful public and business man.
so he need some trainers in any espects, to improve himself, such as weight trainers, or speech coach, I believe he has teacher or guide on his business
Hey Hoops, did you show every single MJ field goal in this game? I'm trying to figure out if that move in that one "frozen moment" commercial was real or just computerized.
First of all thanks a lot for posting this video. It turned me back in time. This was the first NBA game i´ve watched and it made me a fan of this sport. Do you know where I could get an eye on the hole game. I really want to show it my kids someday to help them understand why I fell in love with this game when I was in there age. I hope you can help me out.
kobe scored a total of 10 points vs the bulls in their two matchups in the 96-97 season. kind of hard to believe that now. 5 ppg average against jordan that year. jordan who average 29.6 ppg that season average 28.5 ppg against the lakers that year. 30 in their first game at chicago and then 27 in this game. just leaving a little stat for you guys. jordan was coming off a great game against the sonics prior to this game. he was still dominating the league at 33, but closer to 34 at that point.
People forget how great Jordan's basketball fundamentals were. Jordan is beyond great. It's really irritating how they compare Kobe to MJ when there's really no comparison. Kobe tries to emulate MJ in every way he can. To be the greatest ever, you must transcend the sport and be different. Jordan never looked like anyone it was his own style. Kobe will never be on that level.
hey could you or anyone else reading this add the 2006 nba finals to youtube...FULL GAMES or EVERY TIME WADE SCORES...(you know like this video...whenever jordan shoots a free throw you show it or makes a jumpshot...or even whenever the commentators say something positive about jordan)so yea could you do this for wade...and when/if you do,send me a pm...i'll add/subscribe and everything else...
He's never really given much credit to MJ, doesn't want to be known as the Jordan wannabe even though that would be overrating him. he also used to say he was more of a magic johnson guy than MJ in terms of favorite players.
The fact that Kobe doesnt want to give credit to Michael is what makes Kobe a phony if you ask me. Its a well known fact that Kobe studied MJ's game to exhaustion, its a known fact he went as far as hiring MJ's speech coach! Its kinda scary man. Yeah maybe he idolizes Magic too but honestly can u see any trace of Magic in Kobe's game? Now try MJ. Its undeniable.
You did it baby!Congratulations, homie!Your facts were right!(laughs)Screw a press conference, press this on your conscience!rrTale, cheers.Yeah!I ain't mad, I don't wanna sound mad, I feel marvelous..
He gives tons of credit to Jordan. Calls him the man on top of mountain, the greatest player of all-time, his mentor. Kobe's not a guy to admit much but he's always given credit to MJ as he should. In the recent interview with Mike you can tell how much he respects Kobe just for his work ethic. Calls him the greatest of his generation. Now Kobe will never have that level of "Jordan greatness" but he is a great player. I wish some people would give KB the same respect as their favorite player.
no i used to be a fan of the lakers, all the way to the late 90s, and i was interested in kobe when he was coming up. Of course he won't deny MJs greatness, but despite that he plays the same position and style, he didn't ever credit jordan with much influence or impact, and he does mention Magic. He simply doesn't like being in Jordan's "shadow" to every1 else, as he sees it, just like he didn't like being in Shaq's. Its all due to his ego.
And no, he does not deserve the same respect as MJ.
So watch out for LEBRON cuz he's the 1 hu's going to change the level of basketball just as the way magic and bird and mj done it in their era. But definitely not KOBE cuz he is just another mj wannabe that has no own style and move...SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! BEFORE I SHOVEL UP ALL YOUR ASS KOBE FANSCLUB WANNABE
From the way he play,the moves,the shoes,the jersy and every facet of basketball mj put it in a difrent level!He's an icon,a GOD and A WAY OF LIFE. That's why "everybody wants to be like mike".LARRY and MAGIC era is different from MJ's era just as diferent in LEBRON JAMES ERA!
fuck all kobe fans!!!you dont know how to play basketball!! all of you are wannabe that aint no game! kobe wont be playing if not for mj cuz every kobe MOVE came from mj.Mj inspire kobe to be a good basketball player. But you know what seperate mj to kobe and the rest? MJ's "GREATNESS AND LOVE FOR THE GAME THAT TRANSCEND HIM WAY ABOVE THE REST!" Mj introduce basketball into a difrent level in every part of this world. And without mj,basketball will not be as popular and well love as it is today.
Everyone gets blocked.And it would be easy for Kobe to block Jordan because he stole all of MJ's moves so he knows them.But what about Paul Pierce he aint no Jordan but he blocked Kobe in the finals.Oh I forgot Kobe fans have selective memory.
MJ actually admits that kobe is better than him,but people who wouldnt believe to his comment cant just face the truth that he really is,i respect mj coz hes the greatest of all time,mj always have a good team mate during his era talkin about pippen,dennis,kerr,kukuc,harper,longley,brown,pax,etc put mj on the injured list during their time and that team will still be the champs.Kobe doesnt have these kind of team mates in hes era right now after the shaq trade.
pwrbytrd: Luc Longley? Steve Kerr? Brown? Where the fuck were they before MJ? Yes, no one wanted Kerr, no one wanted Brown, and no one wanted butter fingers Longley. Harper was considered damaged goods. Paxon was never an all-star.
Injured list? Listen up, that team was a .500 team with the players you mentioned. Add MJ and Rodman, they became a 72-10 team. My facts do not lie.
.500 team to a 72-10 team with MJ and Rodman. That says it all. Kobe makes people worse around him.
Part 2: You can't say take away those integral abilities! You're just trying to bring Jordan back down to the middle of the pack by taking away his athleticism so you can easily put Magic in the same league as him by limiting the criteria of what Mike brought to his game! You say Magic made his teammates better. How much better could he possbily make Kareem and Worthy? The job Mike did making Scottie better was 2nd to none. Mike had to assemble Pip, Magic bought Kareem and James off the shelf!
Part 1: But the fact is, athleticism is an integral part of overall basketball game play. You CAN'T take that away. That's like saying take away Larry's cerebral knack for the game and he'll be mediocre. What if Magic didn't have the vision he had or what if he was only 6'2-6'3, average height for a PG would he be as great a player? Or take away the long arms of McHale, or the quick feet of Hakeem. All of these players have their own inherent abilities that are also integral parts of the game.
Part 1: But the fact is, athleticism is an integral part of overall basketball game play. You CAN'T take that away. That's like saying take away Larry's cerebral knack for the game and he'll be mediocre. What if Magic didn't have the vision he had or what if he was only 6'2-6'3, average height for a PG would he be as great a player? Or take away the long arms of McHale, or the quick feet of Hakeem. All of these players have their own inherent abilities that are also integral parts of the game.
salaam1975..You're missing the point..Basketball is a combination of SKILL and Athleticism..Tim Duncan, Larry Bird, Steve Nash, John Stockton are great players not because they're Great Athletes but because they exhibit great fundamentals and skill..Dr. J was a better athlete than Rick Barry but Rick Barry was a better basketball player because he was MORE SKILLED..Dominique Wilkins was a far superior Athlete than Larry bird but Bird was a Far superior Basketball player due to SUPERIOR SKILLS.
salaam1975..Magic Johnson was the most Skilled basketball Player EVER..MAGIC did not have to rely on his Athleticism to be a great basketball player..Jordan on the other hand had to have superior athletic ability to be a great player..Take Jordan's athleticism away and he would be a mediocre player AT BEST because he is nowhere near the skilled Basketball player that Bird and Magic was..The same is true for Dr. J and Dominique Wilkins..Without athleticism these players wouldn't have been good.
Again, why take away Jordan's athleticism?? Why not take away Magic's vision? Hakeem's quick feet? You trying to deduce Mike because he is the greatest ever and won 6 rings with no center! Just say you don't like Mike, I'll respect that, I promise. But let's not get convoluted thinking here!
I totally disagree. Read ANY biography about Michael Jordan. Do a little bit of research. Michael didn't become "the best" by purely relying on his athleticism. You see, there's something you've left out:Ambition. Jordan WANTED to be the best to ever play the game. He didn't just achieve it in virtue of talent. Read the book "how to be like mike". It's all in there. Read any book about Jordan! Hundreds of quotes of former coaches and teammates and opponents quoted saying the same thing. AMBITION
Are you saying that Mike had no skill, and no fundamentals??? Next time you watch Mike, watch him from the kneecap down, and observe his footwork. You get lost in mere "athleticism". Watch him work off the ball. You do not know the game evidently. Who else in the league can fake someone into the third row off of a simple jab step or a head fake?
What series did John Starks shut down Jordan? You talking about game 4 of 1993 Eastern Finals when Starks held Mike to 54??? Pippen had his best season in 1994, and a BS foul call on Hubert Davis stopped them from 4-peating. they would have beat Houston also. He guarded Hakeem during the regular season that year and held him 2-14FG @ Chicago! I WORKED at that game at the old Chicago Stadium, so I know!
Come on dude... Who did the Showtime Lakers have to stop Michael? and you saw in 1991 what Scottie could do to Magic in games 2 through 5, so how could Worthy kill him? Also did I fail to mention Rodman, who in my mind the greatest defender of all time? Byron does not get 20ppg against MIke guaranteed! Magic doesn't play on the ball defense so Riley "hides" him by putting him on power forwards. How else is he gonna get rebounds??? Go back and look at the tapes and you'll see what I mean...
blast2blast..Dude..What the Hell are you talking about..When the Jordan rules were applied notice one thing..THE BULLS LOST..your making my point here..When teams were allowed to play physical with the Bulls notice how the Bulls would LOSE..Pippen would whine about migranes and the Bulls would get their whiny AS$es kicked EVERYTIME..The Pistons played the same dirty Basketball against the Lakers in the Finals and the Lakers still WON and beat the SAME Pistons that Eliminated the BULLS.
Chicago was never down 3-1 against the Knicks what ur talkin about? Plenty of physicallity in all those games its what i saw. And please Magic didnt get the defensive attention Michael drawned.
blast2blast..Dude..What the Hell are you talking about..When the Jordan rules were applied notice one thing..THE BULLS LOST..your making my point here..When teams were allowed to play physical with the Bulls notice how the Bulls would LOSE..Pippen would whine about migranes and the Bulls would get their whiny AS$es kicked EVERYTIME..The Pistons played the same dirty Basketball against the Lakers in the Finals and the Lakers still WON and beat the SAME Pistons that Eliminated the BULLS.
Flase sttement bro. The Pistons still tried the Jordan Rules in 1991, and the Triangle was the perfect anecdote. The Jordan Rules were in effect because Mike was initiating offense at the top of the key 99% of the time. With the Triangle, the Jordan Rules were ineffective because Michael never was in the same place on the floor each time down on offense; and every player in the triangle is in a posiiton to score, hence Bill Cartwright/Luc Longley/Bill Wennington jumpshots from the baseline.
salaam1975..These SCRUBS you mention Bill Cartwright/Luc Longley/Bill Wennington would've been DESTROYED BY KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR..the inside outside game of the Showtime Lakers would've offset any offensive schemes the Bulls would throw at the Lakers..SHOWTIME LAKERS WOULD SMASH THE BULLS.
Soooo why was Magic shut down by Pip in 91??? Don't say 'cause they had no Kareem! They went younger with Vlade. They could still run. But Pip grinded that to a halt! Apparently you do not know or respect the history of the game. Try getting NBA TV, ESPN Classic or hit up my main man Hoopsencyclopedia for references. I backed up everything with factology. Your assertions are emotional and somewhat circular based...
Also BTW, if it weren't for a phantom foul call on Laimbeer in '88 you're looking at a Piston victory in 6 games. Also didn't Isiah get fouled in Game 7 and no call??? I can do this all day, if you wanna compare the two....
salaam1975-Give me a break-The Pistons did nothing but get away with excessive fouls-That's why they were called the BAD BOYS-Jordan and Pippen especially Pippen could not handle physical play..that's why Pippen would be sitting his Whiny AS$ on the sidelines complaining about migraines..You never heard Magic Whine about the Dirty play of the Pistons..Maybe Magic should've whined and Bitched like Jordan and Pippen..Magic could've threatened retirement and gotten the NBA to protect him like Mike
Lol i dont recall the Pistons applying the Jordan rules agasint the Lakers or the Celtics..There's a reason why those rules were called Jordan's..Dont compare the kind of attention Pistons gave to Cletics or Lakers to the attention they gave to MJ. Quite a difference there. Same with the Knicks.
Pfff Barkley played in aging dismotivated teams in his first 3 years and his last 3 years. In between those years he took those teams by himself. Malone had Stockton in his prime, Jordna had Pippen in his prime, Magic had Worthy-Scott-Cooper and Kareem, Bird had Mchale and Parish in their prime as well as D.Johonson and Walton, Houstann had not only Hakeem but Drexler, Kenny Smith, Horry and other good role players. Robinson had Duncan etc. Kevein Jhonson, Marlie aint better than those casts!
AceroySangre..Tom Chambers was NBA ALL-STAR MVP..Kevin Johnson was an ALL STAR and considered one of the top 3 point guards in the NBA..And Thunder Dan Majerle was a Multi All Star player..Barkley had nothing but Help and a fantastic supporting cast..Without Chambers, Kevin Johnson, and Dan Majerle Barkley would've never been to the finals.
Tom Chambers after 11 years did not have the level of game as before, that is fact. In 1992-93 he was aged and in the play-offs played as a role player in that Suns team and also, he was not a great shot blocker for a guy 6-9/10. KG was a good good guard but in no way top player as Stockton who was probaly the thir Greatest PG (after Magic and Isiah) and Dan was a great 3-Point Shooter but thats it. Barley needed guys like Pippen, Stockton, Robinson or players like in the Sonics to win.
Please the game went on being physical for a long time and if u were being hammered everytime u drove to the basket u'd have ur share of complaints too. MJ never backed down though. Pippen didnt have the mental toughness MJ had and the Bulls suffered from that too. And dont bullshit me, the Knicks were in fact DIRTY
Well yeah the main problems would be Magic and Kareem, u could keep Magic from scoring but not from dishing it to Kareem, it would be a tough series no doubt. Dont forget the Bulls suffocating defense though, they could shut down every other player.
blast2blast..depleted team? Dude..Vlade Divac and Eldon Campbell were in their second year.. James Worthy, Byron Scott, and A.C. Green were the veteran leaders in the prime of their careers..this team the previous season was in the finals..the only missing piece was Magic..without Magic the Lakers were barely competitive..Magic was the only reason why the Lakers were in the Finals-you could put any group of players around Magic and that team would win..Worthy was a mediocre player without Magic
Dude exactly 2nd year for Campbell and Divac..They werent even in the starting lineup playing limited minutes, and sorry but noone's in their primes beyond their 30's and thats precisely the age Worthy, Scott and Perkins (the team's main contributors) were in '92. So though i've admitted Magic was the key, his departure wasnt the sole reason why the Lakers sucked the following year.
salaam1975..Magic Johnson played in 9 CHAMPIONSHIPS in 12 SEASONS AGAINST THE NBA'S GREATEST TEAMS EVER-There was no excessive foul rule when MAGIC PLAYED-excessive fouls came into being BECAUSE OF MICHEAL JORDAN..Micheal Jordan was PROTECTED by the NBA because a huge portion of the NBA's revenue depended on Jordan PLAYING IN EVERY GAME..The NBA COULDN'T AFFORD TO HAVE JORDAN INJURED BECAUSE OF THE HUGE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THEY WOULD LOSE..Give MAGIC the same protection and he would've won 8 RINGS
Mike won his first two rings without the benefit of the flagrant foul what are you talking about? Give Mike the supporting cast Magic had there would be no reason why they woulda went 10 for 10 in the decade! There is no comparisons bruh. Magic and LArry said it themselves. Give it up!
Lol did u even watch the 90's? No handcheck?? No double or triple teams?? No physical play??? U definetly didnt watch the 90's.. Please the major rule changes came at the end of the 90's, not during. And no the 3pt line wasnt moved to help Jordan, the line was moved in '94 to cope with Jordan's departure, they wanted to fill his void with increasing others scoring. They didnt know he was comin back..
Indeed and Magic underrated he was the MVP in 1987 the mafia NBA took it away from him. Also lets mention that Chuck took his team to the finals pretty much by himself. It was no Bird-McHale-Parish, Magic-Kareem-Worthy, Isiah-Dumars-Lambieer-Rodman, Duncan-Robinson-Ginobili, Pippen-Jordan-Grant etc. Even Malone had Stockton Barkley had himself and a couple of good shooters thats it!!!!
Jordan never led the Bulls to the Finals without Pip and Magic never led the Lakers to the Finals without Kareem or Worthy, both of them top 50 in NBA History. From that class all MJ ever had was Pippen. MJ couldnt rebound like a center but he had a great post up game that cant be denied. And by his performance at the last part of the '89 season i'd say he did a pretty decent job at PG wouldnt u? Jordan cant play PG like Magic, and Magic cant play SG like Jordan.
blast2blast..Keep in mind that Kareem only won one Championship before teaming with Magic and that one Championship was won with Oscar Robertson..Also Magic made All-Stars out of mediocre players like A.C. Green, Byron Scott, and Kurt Rambis..Vlade Divac's best season ever was when he played with Magic..Magic was the Greatest player ever at making his teammates better.
blast2blast..Magic could've been an ALL-STAR playing any position on the court and Magic led his team to 9 NBA finals in 12 seasons playing against the NBA's greatest teams ever..The Celtics, The Pistons, the Moses Malone-Dr. J Sixers all would have swept any of the Bulls Championship teams.
Uhhhh no... Which one of those players did Magic make better are heading to the Hall of Fame??? Not one! Keep in mind, Pippen was never recruited, not a D-1 All American, averaged 7.9 points his rookie season and shot horrible from the Charity stripe! Michael MADE Scottie into a Future Hall of famer! See ya Scottie in Springfield Hall of Fame C/O 2011!
salaam1975-Hall of Famers that Magic Made Better-#1 Kareem Abdul Jabbar career was revived when Magic joined the Lakers-B 4 Magic arrived Kareem made it to the Finals one time in 10 seasons-Bob Mcadoo Career revived due to Magic-James Worthy became a Hall of Famer due to the superior passing skills of Magic The season Magic retired Worthy's stats dramatically fell without Magic at the helm-SCOTTIE PIPPEN was 1st Bull ever to lead the team in every statistical category DURING JORDAN'S RETIREMENT
Can u believe this idiot? The guy doesnt know the dif between leading the team in every cathegory for some games and leading in all cathegories for the entire season. If he knew of the existance of sites like basketball-reference(dot)com he could check for himself how ignorant he is lol. Pippen may have started leading in all cathegories but he sure didnt finish the season like that not even close.. Check the numbers u asswhipe.
Exactly. It's fine if he likes the Showtime Lakers. It's fine if he likes Magic. I got love for Magic and the Showtime era too. Great basketball! But I'm a Chicago native so I'm riding with Mike!
Dude, Kareem was the best player in the league B4 Magic even left East Lansing! When Wilt said "I need some help to guard this guy," that says a lot! How much better did Magic make him? McAdoo?? BMac was a three time MVP AND Leading scorer from 74-76 Magic was still in East Lansing! Worthy was an All-American at UNC. The Lakers knew what they were getting (between him, Terry Cummings, and Nique in the 82 draft). Pippen wasn't expected to do much but Mike BUILT Pip into a HOF'mer! Factology bruh!
Well if Magic is the greatest in ur opinion then so be it, we all have our opinions. And although Jordan started winning rings when Magic and Bird and Kareem were no longer in their primes dont fool urself into thinkin that was the only reason. Jordan didnt have much of a team till the beginning of the 90's and no man wins alone. Put the Lakers, Celtics and Bulls all in their primes agaisnt each other and that would be interesting to see.
Reggie Miller didn't have an overall great skillset but his multiple gamewinners, clutch shots, and playoff moments, along with the free throw percentage makes him a legend, he's definitely going to the hall of fame. He was as good at 38 as 28 too! Just less stamina.
ya right.. Jordan has 6 rings, never lost in the championship, took a ring from Stockton & Malone - Twice! (The Same season that The Jazz SWEPT the Lakers in the playoffs), took a ring from Payton & Kemp, Charles Barkley, Magic Johnson, Clyde Drexler.. and what did Kobe do? got 3 Rings with NO NBA Finals MVP's. Who got em'? Shaq.. What legendds did Kobe take rings from? Jason Kidd?.. ya.. that bout sums up the difference..
What legends did Kobe take rings from you say? Not just Jason Kidd. Don't forget Reggie Miller and Allen Iverson as well. Also, Shaq couldn't win those 3 Laker championships without Kobe.
We all know Michael Jordan is the best but don't downplay Kobe like he didn't do anything his entire career. Check out his accomplishments at wikipedia if you're in doubt.
I am saying Shaq wouldn't have those 3 rings without Kobe. I am also saying that Kobe wouldn't have those 3 rings without Shaq. They needed each other. Are you saying that if Kobe never existed on the Lakers, Shaq would still have 3 consecutive Laker rings? Because if you are saying that, that would be really hard to believe.
If Kobe never existed on the Lakers, somebody would've been there to claim his spot. Maybe a good scorer like T-Mac or a great playmaker like Jason Kidd, who would've gotten along w/ Shaq in the long run.
To jp3813: That's a big maybe and very unlikely. Remember, when Kobe was starting out, Shaq already had two all-star players in Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel. Yet, they couldn't win the championship. Kobe+Shaq is what the Lakers needed to complete a dynasty and they proved it.
But don't forget that Kobe was in his first 3 years before Phil came in. He needed time to develop. It's true they needed Phil. But also, Kobe couldn't really develop until Eddie Jones was gone. When Phil came in, Kobe was ready to step up and take over SG. If Kobe never existed on the Lakers, a "what-if Shaq+McGrady/Shaq+Kidd combo" could have won them at least a championship but probably not a 3-peat. Also, who's to say that McGrady or Kidd would end up in the Lakers if Kobe was never there?
Putting "what-if combinations" aside, my overall point is Kobe+Shaq along with Phil Jackson is what led the Lakers to a 3-peat. Shaq + (someone other than Kobe) winning 3 consecutive championships during the 2000-2002 years is purely speculation.
Right, but given the fact that Shaq got to the finals w/ Penny Hardaway and won his fourth ring w/ Dwyane Wade, he's pretty much compatible w/ any great player.
Right on, well said. There's no doubt Shaq is bound to succeed when he has a quality guard in his team. History tells us that.
MJ is the only guard to ever lead his team to a championship without a dominant center cause he was a prolific scorer and what's more important he could do it with the efficiency of a center.
Yeah you guys are right. I'm not saying Kobe is greater than Jordan. It just astounds me when other people belittle Kobe like he is an insignificant basketball player. As we've seen, Shaq+Penny, Shaq+Wade, Pippen+Olajuwon+Barkley, and Pippen+Rasheed+Sabonis couldn't lead a dynasty. Jordan+Pippen led a dynasty and Shaq+Kobe led a dynasty along with their mentor Phil Jackson.
GOOD GOD. Jordan's hangtime is UN-FUCKIN-REAL
DanielWFilms 6 months ago
type "short guy dunks" in the youtube search box to see a 5ft 5in guy dunking a 10ft hoop
alec5andru 8 months ago 98
Jordan is basketball in the purest. Great to watch him play, especially with the black unis
sbapetre 9 months ago
Air Jordan The Championship of his Heart is Still Living. Called Legend!
RichardURL 9 months ago
uhm i think we should cut kobe some slack, he came out of highschool to play basketball not many like that, and highschool ball is diffrent then NBA ball more intense, so we gotta accept that kobe isnt refined yet and hes playing NBAs monster so therefore kobe wasnt that bad but i guess if anyone played jordan we would all lose execpt maybe chamberlain
zertul5000 1 year ago
Greatest player forever.
bksaelim 1 year ago
6:02 his royal airness at his finest
joetenista 1 year ago
wow....classic jordan......now i know where kobe get
his desire to win type of thinking>>>thanks for posting...
kb24memew 1 year ago
shaq wasnt on the lakers in 1997!thats y he isnt playing! bitch ass mother fuckin liar sayin hes injured....
paliking070795 1 year ago
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shaq was acquired by the lakers thru free agency summer of 2006..
milfloverr 1 year ago
@milfloverr umm no he wasnt u dumb ass shaw left the lakers in 04 so get ur facts str8!
paliking070795 1 year ago
@paliking070795 imean free agency of 1996..sorry my bad!heheh shaq was acquired by lal summer 1996
milfloverr 1 year ago
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@paliking070795 @paliking070795 imean free agency of 1996..sorry my bad!heheh shaq was acquired by lal summer 1996
milfloverr 1 year ago
kobe some shit
TheEaglesfanindc 1 year ago
sorry but who won?
nymphetaminedisposed 1 year ago
@nymphetaminedisposed Lakers won, 106-90.
max6413 1 year ago
@Hoops I emailed you once trying to find a certain game. This is it !
I flew from New Zealand to L.A to see MJ play live.. Cost me a fortune. How can I get a copy of the whole game?
Thanx in advance for any help given
paid9mm 2 years ago 2
Email me on the Youtube message system and I'll see what I can do.
hoopsencyclopedia 1 year ago
@hoopsencyclopedia
Do you have the 3rd Kobe vs MJ game?
prodiggy13 1 year ago
like bird said jordan is god in disguise..
mrodatnerapa 1 year ago
This was the best game Cambell ever played 34 points 14 rebounds I went to this game.
BOX5 2 years ago
Campbell had some great games for the charlotte hornets too so gotta disagree there. But he did play great
mj45jh23sp33 2 years ago
Elden has a 40 point game against the Knicks that year. I thought that was his best. The Lakers lost that game though.
omars1982 2 years ago
dell harris was full of shit @4:31 even jordan looked confused why take kobe out of thed game so often he was never intimdated by jordan just eager but then again he was only 19/20 yrs old
michaeljmcgaskey 2 years ago
The Lakers also had a pretty deep bench that year........they had Kobe on the bench along with Byron Scott and Robert Horry.
Legendofzoom 2 years ago
Jordan K.O. kobe.
adjvill 2 years ago
So who won this game???
loki1830 2 years ago
I have trouble believing MJ had a speech coach first off from even the earliest interviews you can tell Michael Jordan was a smooth talker. He is also very educated unlike alot of players who stutter and sound like they barely got out of high school.
GoingOn9Lives 2 years ago
I believe it.
Yes MJ is a good teacher and he talk smooth, but when you watched his early vids u will find that he is not as good as now.
People like MJ not only want to be successfulf player, but also successful public and business man.
so he need some trainers in any espects, to improve himself, such as weight trainers, or speech coach, I believe he has teacher or guide on his business
all he need to do is make correct decision
jimmychuang 2 years ago
Man this is vintage noone could gaurd Jordan.
RohoicRamz94 2 years ago 2
Hey Hoops, did you show every single MJ field goal in this game? I'm trying to figure out if that move in that one "frozen moment" commercial was real or just computerized.
airjordan1585 3 years ago
Yes, I'm sure I got every FG here. I don't think that Frozen Moment scene is from a real game by the way.
hoopsencyclopedia 3 years ago
@hoopsencyclopedia It wasn't!!
jaboo82681 2 years ago
@airjordan1585 It wasn't
jaboo82681 2 years ago
@airjordan1585 it couldn't have been from this game because in the commercial the bulls uniforms are red.
pocas14 1 year ago
Hey Hoopsencyclopedia,
First of all thanks a lot for posting this video. It turned me back in time. This was the first NBA game i´ve watched and it made me a fan of this sport. Do you know where I could get an eye on the hole game. I really want to show it my kids someday to help them understand why I fell in love with this game when I was in there age. I hope you can help me out.
Greetings from Germany.
HeitiFighti 3 years ago 2
kobe scored a total of 10 points vs the bulls in their two matchups in the 96-97 season. kind of hard to believe that now. 5 ppg average against jordan that year. jordan who average 29.6 ppg that season average 28.5 ppg against the lakers that year. 30 in their first game at chicago and then 27 in this game. just leaving a little stat for you guys. jordan was coming off a great game against the sonics prior to this game. he was still dominating the league at 33, but closer to 34 at that point.
JenToro18 3 years ago 7
@JenToro18 true that, no doubt jordan is the best, I have no problem with putting kobe in 2nd though
MrQuinnk19 8 months ago
@JenToro18 Yea but Kobe jst averaged 8 PPG his rookie year cuz he wasnt getting da clock...He did'nt become da Kobe we know until 1999-2000 season
lilzack24 7 months ago
5:45 - 6:05
just greatness from mj. definitely the best.
xXWickedNiteXx 3 years ago
Didn't Kobe play in the Rookie/Second year pro game that season?
LuigiLaker 3 years ago 2
People forget how great Jordan's basketball fundamentals were. Jordan is beyond great. It's really irritating how they compare Kobe to MJ when there's really no comparison. Kobe tries to emulate MJ in every way he can. To be the greatest ever, you must transcend the sport and be different. Jordan never looked like anyone it was his own style. Kobe will never be on that level.
MJisKingKobesuckss 3 years ago
So true but thats the nature of society nowadays these kids have no originality!
RohoicRamz94 3 years ago
hey could you or anyone else reading this add the 2006 nba finals to youtube...FULL GAMES or EVERY TIME WADE SCORES...(you know like this video...whenever jordan shoots a free throw you show it or makes a jumpshot...or even whenever the commentators say something positive about jordan)so yea could you do this for wade...and when/if you do,send me a pm...i'll add/subscribe and everything else...
i would do it myself but dont know how..
anyway thanks
Le3g3ndof88 3 years ago
- Named the 1988 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
- Eight playoff games with 50 pts. or more
- 30 regular season games with 50 pts. or more
- 173 games with 40 points or more
- Has hit 28 game-winning shots in the NBA
- Hit the game-winning shot in the 1982 NCAA championship game as a freshman
- Named NBA Rookie of the Year (1985)
- A member of the gold medal-winning 1984 and 1992 United States Olympic Basketball Teams
- Ranked 3rd in All-Time leader in points scored
allenjames23 3 years ago 3
Don't forget, also a record 38 playoff games over 40pts. (also, small correction: 31 regular season 50pts)
hoopsencyclopedia 3 years ago 2
@allenjames23 Hmmm, what else did Jordan do in '88 besides DPOY? Lets see:
Won the scoring title (35 ppg),
Won the steals title (3.2 spg),
Won League MVP,
Won All-Star game MVP,
All-NBA and All-Defense 1st team selections
Slam Dunk champion.
All in 1 year? Not too bad.
max6413 1 year ago
- All-time record for most consectutive double-figure scoring games
- Holds the all-time playoff record for the most steals
- Hit the game-winning shot in the 1998 Finals to win a sixth and final championship
- Notched his 30,000th point on 1/4/02 against the Bulls
- Only 40 year old NBA player to ever score over 40 points on 2/21/03
- Had his #23 jersey retired by the Miami Heat in honor of him on 4/11/03
- Finished his career with 32,292 points, 5,633 assists and 6,672 rebounds.
allenjames23 3 years ago
MJ is not kobe's idol.
thettruest 3 years ago
He's one of them. And definitely the one he patterned his game after. You dont do that unless you idolize that player.
rrTale 3 years ago
He's never really given much credit to MJ, doesn't want to be known as the Jordan wannabe even though that would be overrating him. he also used to say he was more of a magic johnson guy than MJ in terms of favorite players.
thettruest 3 years ago
The fact that Kobe doesnt want to give credit to Michael is what makes Kobe a phony if you ask me. Its a well known fact that Kobe studied MJ's game to exhaustion, its a known fact he went as far as hiring MJ's speech coach! Its kinda scary man. Yeah maybe he idolizes Magic too but honestly can u see any trace of Magic in Kobe's game? Now try MJ. Its undeniable.
rrTale 3 years ago
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RohoicRamz94 3 years ago 7
@RohoicRamz94
This. We all know Kobe is a carbon copy. Kobe mimicked Jordan all the way to a title. And its ok... just own up to it Kobe.
likedamaster 1 year ago
@RohoicRamz94 i know what you mean
crayrayc 1 year ago
speech coach? thats ridiculous and unheard of.
dv122 3 years ago
Hey dont worry about it. You dont have to know everything. Doesnt make it false though.. KB did hire MJ's speech coach early in his career.
rrTale 3 years ago
this is ridiculous and absurdness mixed with some vodka thatll jump start my heart quicker
than a shock when I get shocked at the hospital by the doctor when I'm not co-operating When im rockin the table while he's operating (hey!!)
dv122 3 years ago
Fine dude i dont have to put up with you, if you dont want to take it from me ask Hoops. Do whatever you want, just dont bother me anymore.
rrTale 3 years ago
no more games, I'ma change what you call rage
Tear this mothaf**kin roof off like 2 dogs caged
I was playin in the beginnin, the mood all changed
I been chewed up and spit out and booed off stage
But I kept rhymin and stepwritin the next cypher
Best believe somebody's payin the pied piper
All the pain inside amplified by the fact rrTale is making up stupid crap
dv122 3 years ago
You did it baby!Congratulations, homie!Your facts were right!(laughs)Screw a press conference, press this on your conscience!rrTale, cheers.Yeah!I ain't mad, I don't wanna sound mad, I feel marvelous..
dv122 3 years ago
its true man ..every player got a speech coach that learn em to speak correctly
aspenaspen 3 years ago
He gives tons of credit to Jordan. Calls him the man on top of mountain, the greatest player of all-time, his mentor. Kobe's not a guy to admit much but he's always given credit to MJ as he should. In the recent interview with Mike you can tell how much he respects Kobe just for his work ethic. Calls him the greatest of his generation. Now Kobe will never have that level of "Jordan greatness" but he is a great player. I wish some people would give KB the same respect as their favorite player.
JKFrazier 3 years ago
no i used to be a fan of the lakers, all the way to the late 90s, and i was interested in kobe when he was coming up. Of course he won't deny MJs greatness, but despite that he plays the same position and style, he didn't ever credit jordan with much influence or impact, and he does mention Magic. He simply doesn't like being in Jordan's "shadow" to every1 else, as he sees it, just like he didn't like being in Shaq's. Its all due to his ego.
And no, he does not deserve the same respect as MJ.
thettruest 3 years ago
thank you so much for posting this
DUDEYOURS0GAY 3 years ago
Kobe Bryant has been trying to copy MJ all these years.
elau778 3 years ago
So watch out for LEBRON cuz he's the 1 hu's going to change the level of basketball just as the way magic and bird and mj done it in their era. But definitely not KOBE cuz he is just another mj wannabe that has no own style and move...SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! BEFORE I SHOVEL UP ALL YOUR ASS KOBE FANSCLUB WANNABE
allenjames23 3 years ago
kobes the greatest
TRUCKWM 3 years ago
From the way he play,the moves,the shoes,the jersy and every facet of basketball mj put it in a difrent level!He's an icon,a GOD and A WAY OF LIFE. That's why "everybody wants to be like mike".LARRY and MAGIC era is different from MJ's era just as diferent in LEBRON JAMES ERA!
allenjames23 3 years ago
So shovel up all your ass wannabe! even Magic and Larry couldnt achieve how mj change the dynamics of the game.
allenjames23 3 years ago
fuck all kobe fans!!!you dont know how to play basketball!! all of you are wannabe that aint no game! kobe wont be playing if not for mj cuz every kobe MOVE came from mj.Mj inspire kobe to be a good basketball player. But you know what seperate mj to kobe and the rest? MJ's "GREATNESS AND LOVE FOR THE GAME THAT TRANSCEND HIM WAY ABOVE THE REST!" Mj introduce basketball into a difrent level in every part of this world. And without mj,basketball will not be as popular and well love as it is today.
allenjames23 3 years ago
kobe will never be as good as jordan
jordan was and still is and always be the greatest
XxbostonstudxX 3 years ago 3
Everyone gets blocked.And it would be easy for Kobe to block Jordan because he stole all of MJ's moves so he knows them.But what about Paul Pierce he aint no Jordan but he blocked Kobe in the finals.Oh I forgot Kobe fans have selective memory.
ProGalaxy 3 years ago
micheal is the shit
hernangomez92 3 years ago
Michael is the shit..check out my Bulls games on my channel
ForEmily23 3 years ago
The black jerseys of Doom!
socaldime 3 years ago 2
Eddie Jones!
SylvianLight 3 years ago
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MJ actually admits that kobe is better than him,but people who wouldnt believe to his comment cant just face the truth that he really is,i respect mj coz hes the greatest of all time,mj always have a good team mate during his era talkin about pippen,dennis,kerr,kukuc,harper,longley,brown,pax,etc put mj on the injured list during their time and that team will still be the champs.Kobe doesnt have these kind of team mates in hes era right now after the shaq trade.
pwrbytrd 3 years ago
Kobe? Better than MJ? Nah. N I don't think he would say anything like that nor would kobe admit it.
trunks06 3 years ago
so your saying kobes better than mj but you think mj is the greatest of all time???
T0mRichards0n 3 years ago
pwrbytrd: Luc Longley? Steve Kerr? Brown? Where the fuck were they before MJ? Yes, no one wanted Kerr, no one wanted Brown, and no one wanted butter fingers Longley. Harper was considered damaged goods. Paxon was never an all-star.
Injured list? Listen up, that team was a .500 team with the players you mentioned. Add MJ and Rodman, they became a 72-10 team. My facts do not lie.
.500 team to a 72-10 team with MJ and Rodman. That says it all. Kobe makes people worse around him.
LostInTranslation78 3 years ago 2
I remember when Elden Campbell helped neutralize Shaq in the 04 NBA finals. Him and Ben Wallace made Shaq look human, well a "vacationing " Shaq.
liquidgold 3 years ago
Fuck you
Tim13902461991 3 years ago
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Hey chino dont fuck around mother fucker,coz wherever you go ill fuck around with you.Bitch.....and as well fuck you motherfucker,fuckin clown.
pwrbytrd 3 years ago
Part 2: You can't say take away those integral abilities! You're just trying to bring Jordan back down to the middle of the pack by taking away his athleticism so you can easily put Magic in the same league as him by limiting the criteria of what Mike brought to his game! You say Magic made his teammates better. How much better could he possbily make Kareem and Worthy? The job Mike did making Scottie better was 2nd to none. Mike had to assemble Pip, Magic bought Kareem and James off the shelf!
salaam1975 3 years ago
Part 1: But the fact is, athleticism is an integral part of overall basketball game play. You CAN'T take that away. That's like saying take away Larry's cerebral knack for the game and he'll be mediocre. What if Magic didn't have the vision he had or what if he was only 6'2-6'3, average height for a PG would he be as great a player? Or take away the long arms of McHale, or the quick feet of Hakeem. All of these players have their own inherent abilities that are also integral parts of the game.
salaam1975 3 years ago
Part 1: But the fact is, athleticism is an integral part of overall basketball game play. You CAN'T take that away. That's like saying take away Larry's cerebral knack for the game and he'll be mediocre. What if Magic didn't have the vision he had or what if he was only 6'2-6'3, average height for a PG would he be as great a player? Or take away the long arms of McHale, or the quick feet of Hakeem. All of these players have their own inherent abilities that are also integral parts of the game.
salaam1975 3 years ago
salaam1975..You're missing the point..Basketball is a combination of SKILL and Athleticism..Tim Duncan, Larry Bird, Steve Nash, John Stockton are great players not because they're Great Athletes but because they exhibit great fundamentals and skill..Dr. J was a better athlete than Rick Barry but Rick Barry was a better basketball player because he was MORE SKILLED..Dominique Wilkins was a far superior Athlete than Larry bird but Bird was a Far superior Basketball player due to SUPERIOR SKILLS.
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
salaam1975..Magic Johnson was the most Skilled basketball Player EVER..MAGIC did not have to rely on his Athleticism to be a great basketball player..Jordan on the other hand had to have superior athletic ability to be a great player..Take Jordan's athleticism away and he would be a mediocre player AT BEST because he is nowhere near the skilled Basketball player that Bird and Magic was..The same is true for Dr. J and Dominique Wilkins..Without athleticism these players wouldn't have been good.
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
Again, why take away Jordan's athleticism?? Why not take away Magic's vision? Hakeem's quick feet? You trying to deduce Mike because he is the greatest ever and won 6 rings with no center! Just say you don't like Mike, I'll respect that, I promise. But let's not get convoluted thinking here!
salaam1975 3 years ago
So do you say that to say that Michael has inferior skill???? You gotta be on dope or dog food to insinuate that now, come on dude....
salaam1975 3 years ago
I totally disagree. Read ANY biography about Michael Jordan. Do a little bit of research. Michael didn't become "the best" by purely relying on his athleticism. You see, there's something you've left out:Ambition. Jordan WANTED to be the best to ever play the game. He didn't just achieve it in virtue of talent. Read the book "how to be like mike". It's all in there. Read any book about Jordan! Hundreds of quotes of former coaches and teammates and opponents quoted saying the same thing. AMBITION
mase15 3 years ago
Mase-15 THANK YOU!!!!
salaam1975 3 years ago
and if you disagree, you've missed the point and the very reason of why Michael Jordan is and was so deeply respected in the NBA.
mase15 3 years ago
Are you saying that Mike had no skill, and no fundamentals??? Next time you watch Mike, watch him from the kneecap down, and observe his footwork. You get lost in mere "athleticism". Watch him work off the ball. You do not know the game evidently. Who else in the league can fake someone into the third row off of a simple jab step or a head fake?
salaam1975 3 years ago 3
What series did John Starks shut down Jordan? You talking about game 4 of 1993 Eastern Finals when Starks held Mike to 54??? Pippen had his best season in 1994, and a BS foul call on Hubert Davis stopped them from 4-peating. they would have beat Houston also. He guarded Hakeem during the regular season that year and held him 2-14FG @ Chicago! I WORKED at that game at the old Chicago Stadium, so I know!
salaam1975 3 years ago
Come on dude... Who did the Showtime Lakers have to stop Michael? and you saw in 1991 what Scottie could do to Magic in games 2 through 5, so how could Worthy kill him? Also did I fail to mention Rodman, who in my mind the greatest defender of all time? Byron does not get 20ppg against MIke guaranteed! Magic doesn't play on the ball defense so Riley "hides" him by putting him on power forwards. How else is he gonna get rebounds??? Go back and look at the tapes and you'll see what I mean...
salaam1975 3 years ago
The 1st championship that MJ won was against THe showtime Lakers
tmacroks1 3 years ago
blast2blast..Dude..What the Hell are you talking about..When the Jordan rules were applied notice one thing..THE BULLS LOST..your making my point here..When teams were allowed to play physical with the Bulls notice how the Bulls would LOSE..Pippen would whine about migranes and the Bulls would get their whiny AS$es kicked EVERYTIME..The Pistons played the same dirty Basketball against the Lakers in the Finals and the Lakers still WON and beat the SAME Pistons that Eliminated the BULLS.
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
torrid 58.4%?
thats a sick scoring percentage!
manu43va 3 years ago
Both MJ were greats, but Jordan is the greatest ever to play this game, remember, Jordan never play a 7 game in Finals, also he won 6, Magic won 5.
franklynrodriguez 3 years ago
Chicago was never down 3-1 against the Knicks what ur talkin about? Plenty of physicallity in all those games its what i saw. And please Magic didnt get the defensive attention Michael drawned.
blast2blast 3 years ago
blast2blast..Your right..the Knicks were up 2 games to 0.
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
blast2blast..Dude..What the Hell are you talking about..When the Jordan rules were applied notice one thing..THE BULLS LOST..your making my point here..When teams were allowed to play physical with the Bulls notice how the Bulls would LOSE..Pippen would whine about migranes and the Bulls would get their whiny AS$es kicked EVERYTIME..The Pistons played the same dirty Basketball against the Lakers in the Finals and the Lakers still WON and beat the SAME Pistons that Eliminated the BULLS.
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
Flase sttement bro. The Pistons still tried the Jordan Rules in 1991, and the Triangle was the perfect anecdote. The Jordan Rules were in effect because Mike was initiating offense at the top of the key 99% of the time. With the Triangle, the Jordan Rules were ineffective because Michael never was in the same place on the floor each time down on offense; and every player in the triangle is in a posiiton to score, hence Bill Cartwright/Luc Longley/Bill Wennington jumpshots from the baseline.
salaam1975 3 years ago
salaam1975..These SCRUBS you mention Bill Cartwright/Luc Longley/Bill Wennington would've been DESTROYED BY KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR..the inside outside game of the Showtime Lakers would've offset any offensive schemes the Bulls would throw at the Lakers..SHOWTIME LAKERS WOULD SMASH THE BULLS.
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
Soooo why was Magic shut down by Pip in 91??? Don't say 'cause they had no Kareem! They went younger with Vlade. They could still run. But Pip grinded that to a halt! Apparently you do not know or respect the history of the game. Try getting NBA TV, ESPN Classic or hit up my main man Hoopsencyclopedia for references. I backed up everything with factology. Your assertions are emotional and somewhat circular based...
salaam1975 3 years ago
Also BTW, if it weren't for a phantom foul call on Laimbeer in '88 you're looking at a Piston victory in 6 games. Also didn't Isiah get fouled in Game 7 and no call??? I can do this all day, if you wanna compare the two....
salaam1975 3 years ago
salaam1975-Give me a break-The Pistons did nothing but get away with excessive fouls-That's why they were called the BAD BOYS-Jordan and Pippen especially Pippen could not handle physical play..that's why Pippen would be sitting his Whiny AS$ on the sidelines complaining about migraines..You never heard Magic Whine about the Dirty play of the Pistons..Maybe Magic should've whined and Bitched like Jordan and Pippen..Magic could've threatened retirement and gotten the NBA to protect him like Mike
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
Lol i dont recall the Pistons applying the Jordan rules agasint the Lakers or the Celtics..There's a reason why those rules were called Jordan's..Dont compare the kind of attention Pistons gave to Cletics or Lakers to the attention they gave to MJ. Quite a difference there. Same with the Knicks.
blast2blast 3 years ago
Just wanna borrow the words of Albert Einstein (any of you know who he was?):
"Why "100 authors against Einstein", if I were wrong, just one would be enough!"
joellleverino 3 years ago
Pfff Barkley played in aging dismotivated teams in his first 3 years and his last 3 years. In between those years he took those teams by himself. Malone had Stockton in his prime, Jordna had Pippen in his prime, Magic had Worthy-Scott-Cooper and Kareem, Bird had Mchale and Parish in their prime as well as D.Johonson and Walton, Houstann had not only Hakeem but Drexler, Kenny Smith, Horry and other good role players. Robinson had Duncan etc. Kevein Jhonson, Marlie aint better than those casts!
AceroySangre 3 years ago
AceroySangre..Tom Chambers was NBA ALL-STAR MVP..Kevin Johnson was an ALL STAR and considered one of the top 3 point guards in the NBA..And Thunder Dan Majerle was a Multi All Star player..Barkley had nothing but Help and a fantastic supporting cast..Without Chambers, Kevin Johnson, and Dan Majerle Barkley would've never been to the finals.
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
Tom Chambers after 11 years did not have the level of game as before, that is fact. In 1992-93 he was aged and in the play-offs played as a role player in that Suns team and also, he was not a great shot blocker for a guy 6-9/10. KG was a good good guard but in no way top player as Stockton who was probaly the thir Greatest PG (after Magic and Isiah) and Dan was a great 3-Point Shooter but thats it. Barley needed guys like Pippen, Stockton, Robinson or players like in the Sonics to win.
AceroySangre 3 years ago
Please the game went on being physical for a long time and if u were being hammered everytime u drove to the basket u'd have ur share of complaints too. MJ never backed down though. Pippen didnt have the mental toughness MJ had and the Bulls suffered from that too. And dont bullshit me, the Knicks were in fact DIRTY
blast2blast 3 years ago
Well yeah the main problems would be Magic and Kareem, u could keep Magic from scoring but not from dishing it to Kareem, it would be a tough series no doubt. Dont forget the Bulls suffocating defense though, they could shut down every other player.
blast2blast 3 years ago
blast2blast..depleted team? Dude..Vlade Divac and Eldon Campbell were in their second year.. James Worthy, Byron Scott, and A.C. Green were the veteran leaders in the prime of their careers..this team the previous season was in the finals..the only missing piece was Magic..without Magic the Lakers were barely competitive..Magic was the only reason why the Lakers were in the Finals-you could put any group of players around Magic and that team would win..Worthy was a mediocre player without Magic
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
Dude exactly 2nd year for Campbell and Divac..They werent even in the starting lineup playing limited minutes, and sorry but noone's in their primes beyond their 30's and thats precisely the age Worthy, Scott and Perkins (the team's main contributors) were in '92. So though i've admitted Magic was the key, his departure wasnt the sole reason why the Lakers sucked the following year.
blast2blast 3 years ago
If you can put any group of players around Magic he wouuld win, why does he not have 13 titles?????
salaam1975 3 years ago
salaam1975..Magic Johnson played in 9 CHAMPIONSHIPS in 12 SEASONS AGAINST THE NBA'S GREATEST TEAMS EVER-There was no excessive foul rule when MAGIC PLAYED-excessive fouls came into being BECAUSE OF MICHEAL JORDAN..Micheal Jordan was PROTECTED by the NBA because a huge portion of the NBA's revenue depended on Jordan PLAYING IN EVERY GAME..The NBA COULDN'T AFFORD TO HAVE JORDAN INJURED BECAUSE OF THE HUGE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THEY WOULD LOSE..Give MAGIC the same protection and he would've won 8 RINGS
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
Mike won his first two rings without the benefit of the flagrant foul what are you talking about? Give Mike the supporting cast Magic had there would be no reason why they woulda went 10 for 10 in the decade! There is no comparisons bruh. Magic and LArry said it themselves. Give it up!
salaam1975 3 years ago
Lol did u even watch the 90's? No handcheck?? No double or triple teams?? No physical play??? U definetly didnt watch the 90's.. Please the major rule changes came at the end of the 90's, not during. And no the 3pt line wasnt moved to help Jordan, the line was moved in '94 to cope with Jordan's departure, they wanted to fill his void with increasing others scoring. They didnt know he was comin back..
blast2blast 3 years ago
He still accomplished enough to be named the greatest. Discussion's OVER
blast2blast 3 years ago
you are gay, discussion's OVER
schlunder116 3 years ago
Indeed and Magic underrated he was the MVP in 1987 the mafia NBA took it away from him. Also lets mention that Chuck took his team to the finals pretty much by himself. It was no Bird-McHale-Parish, Magic-Kareem-Worthy, Isiah-Dumars-Lambieer-Rodman, Duncan-Robinson-Ginobili, Pippen-Jordan-Grant etc. Even Malone had Stockton Barkley had himself and a couple of good shooters thats it!!!!
AceroySangre 3 years ago
Also Magic isnt the defender MJ was and that's a bif part of the game.
blast2blast 3 years ago
Jordan never led the Bulls to the Finals without Pip and Magic never led the Lakers to the Finals without Kareem or Worthy, both of them top 50 in NBA History. From that class all MJ ever had was Pippen. MJ couldnt rebound like a center but he had a great post up game that cant be denied. And by his performance at the last part of the '89 season i'd say he did a pretty decent job at PG wouldnt u? Jordan cant play PG like Magic, and Magic cant play SG like Jordan.
blast2blast 3 years ago
blast2blast..Keep in mind that Kareem only won one Championship before teaming with Magic and that one Championship was won with Oscar Robertson..Also Magic made All-Stars out of mediocre players like A.C. Green, Byron Scott, and Kurt Rambis..Vlade Divac's best season ever was when he played with Magic..Magic was the Greatest player ever at making his teammates better.
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
blast2blast..Magic could've been an ALL-STAR playing any position on the court and Magic led his team to 9 NBA finals in 12 seasons playing against the NBA's greatest teams ever..The Celtics, The Pistons, the Moses Malone-Dr. J Sixers all would have swept any of the Bulls Championship teams.
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
Kareem only won one championship before Magic..Whats ur point? Fact is Magic never won one without Kareem so whats the point again?
blast2blast 3 years ago
Uhhhh no... Which one of those players did Magic make better are heading to the Hall of Fame??? Not one! Keep in mind, Pippen was never recruited, not a D-1 All American, averaged 7.9 points his rookie season and shot horrible from the Charity stripe! Michael MADE Scottie into a Future Hall of famer! See ya Scottie in Springfield Hall of Fame C/O 2011!
salaam1975 3 years ago
salaam1975-Hall of Famers that Magic Made Better-#1 Kareem Abdul Jabbar career was revived when Magic joined the Lakers-B 4 Magic arrived Kareem made it to the Finals one time in 10 seasons-Bob Mcadoo Career revived due to Magic-James Worthy became a Hall of Famer due to the superior passing skills of Magic The season Magic retired Worthy's stats dramatically fell without Magic at the helm-SCOTTIE PIPPEN was 1st Bull ever to lead the team in every statistical category DURING JORDAN'S RETIREMENT
bretcarr2001 3 years ago
Can u believe this idiot? The guy doesnt know the dif between leading the team in every cathegory for some games and leading in all cathegories for the entire season. If he knew of the existance of sites like basketball-reference(dot)com he could check for himself how ignorant he is lol. Pippen may have started leading in all cathegories but he sure didnt finish the season like that not even close.. Check the numbers u asswhipe.
blast2blast 3 years ago
Exactly. It's fine if he likes the Showtime Lakers. It's fine if he likes Magic. I got love for Magic and the Showtime era too. Great basketball! But I'm a Chicago native so I'm riding with Mike!
salaam1975 3 years ago
Dude, Kareem was the best player in the league B4 Magic even left East Lansing! When Wilt said "I need some help to guard this guy," that says a lot! How much better did Magic make him? McAdoo?? BMac was a three time MVP AND Leading scorer from 74-76 Magic was still in East Lansing! Worthy was an All-American at UNC. The Lakers knew what they were getting (between him, Terry Cummings, and Nique in the 82 draft). Pippen wasn't expected to do much but Mike BUILT Pip into a HOF'mer! Factology bruh!
salaam1975 3 years ago
Well if Magic is the greatest in ur opinion then so be it, we all have our opinions. And although Jordan started winning rings when Magic and Bird and Kareem were no longer in their primes dont fool urself into thinkin that was the only reason. Jordan didnt have much of a team till the beginning of the 90's and no man wins alone. Put the Lakers, Celtics and Bulls all in their primes agaisnt each other and that would be interesting to see.
blast2blast 3 years ago
MJ is good
schlunder116 3 years ago
Not just good. The greatest
blast2blast 3 years ago
Hoops, you should post MJ vs Kobe in the 1998 Allstar game...Jordan schooled the shit out of Kobe, with Kobe guarding him all night
zodiiak 3 years ago
I should but others have that up. Maybe I'll do the whole game though. Sounds like a future project. Thanks.
hoopsencyclopedia 3 years ago
cmon. stop comparing them now. kobe is not old enough right now.
QBsheikman 3 years ago
Kobe is 30 years old, now
Domini478 3 years ago
no i mean in the video.
QBsheikman 3 years ago
hes 29
miguel14wetc14 3 years ago
michael jordan owns kobe.
890popboy 3 years ago 2
Who is best? Lets have a look at the stats:
Kobe Bryant Career Averages
FG% 0,454 | 3P% 0,338 | FT% 0,839 | RPG 5,3 | APG 4,6 | SPG 1,5 | BPG 0,5 | PPG 24,9
Michael Jordan Career Averages
FG% 0,497 | 3P% 0,327 | FT% 0,835 | RPG 6,2 | APG 5,3 | SPG 2,4 | BPG 0,8 | PPG 30,1
Mental skills -> MJ is truly superior
MJ is the best!! Simply as that is. Accept it you Crybabies!
jotaalpha 3 years ago
Wtf r u talking about dumbass....Reggie Miller's as much as a legend then fucking anyone. He's the greatest 3 point shooter of all time..
chickentenders12345 3 years ago 4
steve kerr is best percentage with 45.4 for his 15 year career, shot 52% from 3's in 95
dv122 3 years ago
Reggie Miller is not a "legend" neither is Jason Kidd. They were good players, not great...Kobe the bricklayer
Xandrino 3 years ago
Reggie Miller's not a legend? LULZ! You're such a dumb ass, one who clearly doesn't know much about professional basketball.
Donnell706 3 years ago 2
Reggie Miller didn't have an overall great skillset but his multiple gamewinners, clutch shots, and playoff moments, along with the free throw percentage makes him a legend, he's definitely going to the hall of fame. He was as good at 38 as 28 too! Just less stamina.
TRJ22487 3 years ago 3
GREAT MOVE ON 5:48
morris234508 3 years ago
talk about air time...oh my
sudoku28 3 years ago
MJ is the greatest. period...
elurai 3 years ago
just his airness
lolnilslol 3 years ago
best game
for #23
deambulante13 3 years ago
He makes it look so easy
scottie2333 3 years ago 2
who got game? micheal jordan!!!
jjutube07 3 years ago 2
ya right.. Jordan has 6 rings, never lost in the championship, took a ring from Stockton & Malone - Twice! (The Same season that The Jazz SWEPT the Lakers in the playoffs), took a ring from Payton & Kemp, Charles Barkley, Magic Johnson, Clyde Drexler.. and what did Kobe do? got 3 Rings with NO NBA Finals MVP's. Who got em'? Shaq.. What legendds did Kobe take rings from? Jason Kidd?.. ya.. that bout sums up the difference..
aiv14 3 years ago 5
SEVEN rings,but whose counting?
intelligentlman 3 years ago
6 rings actually....
torth76 3 years ago 2
What legends did Kobe take rings from you say? Not just Jason Kidd. Don't forget Reggie Miller and Allen Iverson as well. Also, Shaq couldn't win those 3 Laker championships without Kobe.
bohorano 3 years ago
We all know Michael Jordan is the best but don't downplay Kobe like he didn't do anything his entire career. Check out his accomplishments at wikipedia if you're in doubt.
bohorano 3 years ago
you mean Kobe wouldnt have those 3 rings without shaq... dont forget Kobe never have made it out of the first round in playoff with shaq.
Dreamhaxx02 3 years ago
I am saying Shaq wouldn't have those 3 rings without Kobe. I am also saying that Kobe wouldn't have those 3 rings without Shaq. They needed each other. Are you saying that if Kobe never existed on the Lakers, Shaq would still have 3 consecutive Laker rings? Because if you are saying that, that would be really hard to believe.
bohorano 3 years ago
If Kobe never existed on the Lakers, somebody would've been there to claim his spot. Maybe a good scorer like T-Mac or a great playmaker like Jason Kidd, who would've gotten along w/ Shaq in the long run.
jp3813 3 years ago
To jp3813: That's a big maybe and very unlikely. Remember, when Kobe was starting out, Shaq already had two all-star players in Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel. Yet, they couldn't win the championship. Kobe+Shaq is what the Lakers needed to complete a dynasty and they proved it.
bohorano 3 years ago
They already had that before they ever won a championship. What they needed was Phil Jackson.
jp3813 3 years ago
But don't forget that Kobe was in his first 3 years before Phil came in. He needed time to develop. It's true they needed Phil. But also, Kobe couldn't really develop until Eddie Jones was gone. When Phil came in, Kobe was ready to step up and take over SG. If Kobe never existed on the Lakers, a "what-if Shaq+McGrady/Shaq+Kidd combo" could have won them at least a championship but probably not a 3-peat. Also, who's to say that McGrady or Kidd would end up in the Lakers if Kobe was never there?
bohorano 3 years ago
Putting "what-if combinations" aside, my overall point is Kobe+Shaq along with Phil Jackson is what led the Lakers to a 3-peat. Shaq + (someone other than Kobe) winning 3 consecutive championships during the 2000-2002 years is purely speculation.
bohorano 3 years ago
Right, but given the fact that Shaq got to the finals w/ Penny Hardaway and won his fourth ring w/ Dwyane Wade, he's pretty much compatible w/ any great player.
jp3813 3 years ago
Right on, well said. There's no doubt Shaq is bound to succeed when he has a quality guard in his team. History tells us that.
MJ is the only guard to ever lead his team to a championship without a dominant center cause he was a prolific scorer and what's more important he could do it with the efficiency of a center.
rrTale 3 years ago
MJ & Pippen could've won championships until the mid-2000's if they had Shaq in the Bulls.
jp3813 3 years ago
Yeah you guys are right. I'm not saying Kobe is greater than Jordan. It just astounds me when other people belittle Kobe like he is an insignificant basketball player. As we've seen, Shaq+Penny, Shaq+Wade, Pippen+Olajuwon+Barkley, and Pippen+Rasheed+Sabonis couldn't lead a dynasty. Jordan+Pippen led a dynasty and Shaq+Kobe led a dynasty along with their mentor Phil Jackson.
bohorano 3 years ago
Except MJ & Pippen led TWO dynasties.
jp3813 3 years ago