Private Military Contractors Hearing: Blackwater Families

[lovecraftis]

Blackwater/XE is nothing but a bunch of war criminals. Notice how Eric Prince left the USA as soon as the truth about his merc army started to come out. He's a coward, traitor & a scumbag who needs to stand trial for his crimes. The best thing the US could do would be to stop using mercs.

[WantaBucket4urCryz]

those families are just trying to steal money, it's sad how they died, but it was by their mistakes. They asked the hotel manager for directions which lead to the ambush, and they disobeyed the no. 1 rule, never stop, you can find other roots, but never stop.

[altonrocker]

You know i think Blackwater/Xe is an illegal org. We have the american army, Navy, Air force, Marines, Black water is not needed, Over seas or on our own homeland. We pay them big money and it's payed by the american tax payer, But not added to the expence of the war. "HOW DOES THAT WORK"? Smoke and mirrors, hockus- pockus, Just like the rest of our government's actions today. HELLOOOO. Is anyone awake out there? I really don't believe so.

[12quillemall5321]

Nancy,

When are we going to dispel Blackwater / Xe? And why does this administration continue to use mercanies in Iraq? What is the purpose of giving this private army the right to ignore the Geneva convention rules? What is the difference between this and the KKK, or Nazis?

As a Democrat, and American, I am ashamed of what we, Americans, have become. Merciless warmongers, profitting of the miseries of others

[WantaBucket4urCryz]

@12quillemall5321 the KKK is legal and they Xe obeys the geneva convention you fucking twat

[12quillemall5321]

@WantaBucket4urCryz Prick without a hole to jump in. Xe is Blackwater with a White wash. And since white is right say whatever lie you want. I still know you speak with a forked tongue. Liar. Go f a paid 6 year old child that your company brings into Bahrain for your pleasure.

AND PAY YOUR TAXES, YOU CRIMINAL. Why be an ex-pat until it's time to retire? We don't want' you back.

[atlanticraven]

I'd like to express my sympathy's for the families of those four men. As much as I don't like the concept of PMC's those four were trying to support their families. I can understand why they chose to become merc's but other then that, I'd rather be drafted then become a merc.

[hellsingorg2]

well fucking said my friend. well fucking said. cheers.

[atlanticraven]

thanks, I actualy heared of one of those guys on tv. Scott halveston, he was on that reallity game show combat missions. Other than that I hope he and the other three guys that were killed by those insugent bastards find peace and their families find justice and closer.

[nameiturself]

eronyn, You are a fucking Moron.

These are men who have been trained to fight for their country, some of them couldnt meet ends meet because of the armys pay. They took jobs that they know, and jobs that can pay to keep their families alive. For christs sake You sir are a fucking Moron and have no Idea what you are talking about at all. Do us all a favor and Shut the fuck up!

[eronyn]

Have some of these war criminals faced justice? Thankfully four have. I find it subtlely ironic that these four are, as we type and read, being raped by the devil, ironic they are probably conservative christians as well. That exposes the shallow nature of such sub-humans to a significant degree. And to all those right-wingers, it must hurt to find such "unjust cruelty"? Well guess what? do the rest of us who do not secretly wear nazi swastikas a favour and end your lfe along with your family.

[eronyn]

These whitetrash hillbilly cunts are all the same. Unfortunately they are everywhere and all of them educated the same way. By that i mean brainwashed with the same narrow-minded shit their unfortunate parents fed them from their own brainless arseholes. They think they have some sort of moral justification to cause incredible pain to anyone and spread the political influence of their country (which was founded on solid grounds) simply because they have the means.

[eronyn]

These animals should burn in hell. They completely deserved this. Maybe Hitler had the right idea, he simply targeted the wrong people. Being politically correct has gone too far. All proper human beings should be prejudiced against sub-human scum of all races. I hold these pathetic animals responsible for all the predominant causes of society's shortcomings. The world is a "better" place without these four. Many people believe others of their intelligence and genetics will follow the same fate.

[1337905]

i say those four got what they deserved. who the fuck risks their lives to go to iraq to shoot and kill others.

[1337905]

all for the name of profit. atleast the army is doing it out of patriotism and duty to country.

[constancema84]

Cont.

If we confront that issue, and not contracted security as a whole, we will have far more success. Also, why only blame Bush? He can only base his decision on what his eyes and ears on the ground tell him. He makes decisions based on other people's reports...so maybe we should look into how complete of a report he is receiving before we accuse him of being a terrorist as well. And lastly- I haven't seen any of these blackwater men do anything as heinous as what was done to those 4.

[constancema84]

Cont...

It's not nearly as vicious or exciting as the conspiracy theorists would have you believe. They are just there to make a living and come home to their families. Of course they don't want to be killed in Iraq, but they do know the risk. And of course they don't "want" to kill people in Iraq, but if it's between killing and being killed they are going to go with instinct and protect themselves. The main cause of death (aside from insurgents) is miscommunication.

Cont...

[constancema84]

I think that everyone is generalizing far too much. To compare Blackwater to the Nazi's or to terrorist is grossly ignorant. Most of the men serving in Iraq as contractors are not there because they want to kill people, but because they want to give their families the best life possible. Security jobs in the US do not pay nearly as much as in Iraq. The men want to go serve their year and pay off their families debt, buy a house, send their kids to school, etc... CONT...

[curvysarah]

When we see the attrocities committed by mercenaries in Iraq we can put into context the anger of Iraqis which leads them to treat Blackwater like Nazis.

[gjohnson87109]

I was watching the History Channel earlier this week. They had a show on Hitlers rise to power. They spoke how he gave orders to the SS (Heidrich) eliminate the SA who was during Hitlers rise to power the thugs that would beat up his opponents. The SS was a "private contractor" turned state security after he became Chancellor. The rest my friend is history. Bush must go and stand trial at the World Court. He is a criminal and a mass murderer. He must stand trial.

[mizzlehotch777]

if you work for OSI, then you should be fucking fired! I can't believe i pay you to say that. Bush is not a murderer, moron yes, but not a murderer. Molosovic was a murderer, Pol Pot was a murderer, Hitler was a murderer, Stalin was a murderer, Hussein was a murderer! Bush is not a murderer.

[polygamous1]

bush is an arch murderer with capital M

[dollahy]

if they do not respond to any law...then of course their employees are gonna be treated like shit

[PugKids]

Germany had it's Hitler, Gestapo and Stormtroopers.

Now America has their's!

[realnewsdm]

WORD

[gjohnson87109]

To Mizzle: You don't know what "my intrests" are! How dare you in your right wing glory attempt to even suggest that you know where my interest lie. Blackwater is a training ground for a large segment of right wing neo's that support groups such as Aryan Nation, Skin heads and American Nazi Movement. I do not know if you are jewish but, are they working for your interest?

[Halo4Lyf]

Jesus, Eric Prince is no Nazi! He's a good man.

[mizzlehotch777]

I'm not a fucking republican, or an fuck head democrat. So don't even toss me in the same bin as the rest of the vulcans, and i doubt that Blackwater is doing that concoiusly, and if they are, and you have proof...you could easily shut them down. Don't even lie and tell me you can;t b/c i know that the gov't can do that.

[MuslimGhost]

Muzzlecock stfu you stupid Jew. These blackwater pigs need to fry. Hang them all

[gjohnson87109]

aMERICA WANTED ITS OWN GESTAPO.You got it, and now we must prepare ourselves for martial law in 2008.

[mizzlehotch777]

you are a fucking moron, you know that? That is the dumbest shit ever. These guys are fighting for your interests, and you diss them? you are an ignorant pig.

i bet you don't even know what the gestapo is!

[gjohnson87109]

I do know what the gestapo is. Also, dog breath let me inform you that I am currently employed with USAF OSI Det 4. My job is knowing about "Home grown" terrorist and support groups. Blackwater is one of them. Now grow up and join the military! If you are in shape.

[mizzlehotch777]

unfortunatly, i can't serve with any branch of the military, i'm physically unfit for duty. YOU need to get your head out of your ass. I don;t see any problem with Blackwater, and where is the martial law, asshole?

Prince is a good man.

[gjohnson87109]

To Mizzle: After reading all your new posts I can see why you are unfit for military service. You are living your life vicariously through Blackwater and others.Please do not respond because I do not wish to be infected with your mental illness for even thirty seconds. Thanks. Have a great life. Eventually you will awaken to a new world.

[polygamous1]

maybe prince is not as bad as you am sure u LOVE to play RAMBO wanker

[realnewsdm]

U sir are RIGHT!!

[truthunveiled]

Demand from Congress an end to contracting out military security services. Pick up the phone and call today and demand Blackwater get out of Iraq. I thank this mother for her courage in the face of Blackwater's utter arrogance. She speaks for millions of Americans who want accountability. Please support her. I give her my deepest respect. I never curse on youtube, but there is no other name for the owner of Blackwater: he is a criminal and an arrogant prick.

[2edgesword]

Bush is Shit! He is forming his own army at the expense of people needing jobs. Real soldiers defend,they do not offend! Undo Blackwater! They are the future Nazi party enforcers! Watch video by 2edgesword.

[buck0nine]

Screw you and your hateful bullshit, phillipngyn , you're right though... Blackwater is pure shit, the kind that you'd find in the sewer systems. This is nothing but shades of an Orwellian society bubbling up from under the surface.

I take offense that you would say "screw the military" - my nephew is in the military as well as many of my close friends. There is no reason for Blackwater to exist and no reason that the people who run that company shouldn't be thrown in prison for war crimes.

[phillipngyn]

Screw the millitary, Blackwater is the shit. The only rule in combat is to protect yourself and kill whoever you think is a threat because once you are dead, there ain't gonna be much shit left to think about. Those who opposed blackwater can kiss their asses because they have no idea what it's like to be in a life and death situation. That is what happened when you stop and think instead of shoot and kill.

[iam980]

why She is continuous hand shaking!!!!!!!

[yogafireyogaflame23]

stupid bitch, you think the treatment of private contractors in Iraq is bad? What about the treatment of our troops, who have inferior armor, weapons, and vehicles. FUCK blackwater, and fuck this whiney bitch.

[anamarie8]

hey yoga. maybe she's just doing her part to expose this insanity.

[anamarie8]

Robert Greenwald and author Jeremy Scahill

(author of Blackwater)

testify @ "Defense Subcommitte of the House

Appropriations Committee May 2007"

on war profiteering. view @

(videoplay?docid=-870683070410­3212226)

@ googlevideo

1 hour 5 min.

[bpsw11]

they signed a contract to be a mercenary.

basically a guns for hire.

death and destruction comes with the contract.

[sharkcellar]

Corporate mercs suck.

[ETALAL]

HAHA die filthy murdering Blackwater scum and burn in hell whining Bitch. HA HA HA I hope they kill all these filthy terrorists, Ha Ha love to see here tears

[SweBadAss666]

Dude. your brain is seriously fucked way up. Blackwater dosen't care about their operators, it's a fucking fact (I have buds who have done work for them), agencies such as AEGIS takes care of it's employees, BW does not...

[feistygeek]

If this video was really posted by House Speaker Nancy Peolsi (or her staff), why hasn't Ms. Pelosi done more to hold the criminals in the executive branch accountable for their actions?

The executive branch has acted irresponsibly by allowing private contractors to operate without oversight in Iraq, but inaction of Congress is even more reprehensible. Fuck you, Blackwater. Fuck you, Nancy Pelosi. If you think the actions of Blackwater are inappropriate, stop funding the war. Now.

[lewcody]

Blackwater = Fascism!!

[N101RG]

Contract military work is usually high risk. Private contractors have no business doing ops that are reckless and stupid. Threat of firing is no reason to get dead, being a professional means that you assess and either go or no go.

[Detheroc3377]

Blackwater is in this whole thing for money. They don't care how many die, how they died and what they could do to help. They work with the army but are NOT affiliated so don't expect as much organisation. Blackwater mercs chose willingly to join and they know the good and bad

[Hypnotron2006]

FolkLordll you're a disgrace to the seals and proof that the reqts to become one have been sunk into meaninglessnes.

[bauhausman]

FolkLordll you make me fell sorry for you man, you think that you are gonig to go to irak and set free the people. I chust hope that you dont have a chanse to go to irak, cause i dont want to see any more black bags full of dreamers and pore persons that bought the ideal of "freedom fighters"

[FolkLordll]

You people make me laugh. SHUT UP! You always have something to complain about and if we didnt go to war then you would be complaining about that. Im all for Blackwater and after im threw with the seals i hope to join blackwater and continue with my fight in Iraq. You have no idea what you are saying so shut your mouth and find something ells to do.

PS: This chick makes me laugh. She sounds like shes gasping for air and chocking on her words.

[callihn]

The problem with Blackwater is that all they require is "three years of verifiable military or law enforcement experience" and good credit and I'll bet you that few with such are really interested, Blackwater gets mostly, dishonorably discharged veterans and law enforcement personal fired for misconduct.

[lanser87]

I feel bad for the families that suffer because of institutions that encourage war. Maybe enough will die to stop Blackwater.

[doomreaper]

that is full bs lol

[MilitantDanny]

Where the hell do you get this information? Do you know how selective their recruiters and school is? NO YOU DON'T! Until you work in this business, you dont understand the ins and outs. You make judgements based on biased CNN reporters opinions and jump on the bandwagon just to be part of the "rebellious" crowd, all the while making up false accusations. You think its easy to work for them? Try to get in, its very hard to do.

[SHADOWCOMPANY1]

callihn- YOU ARE A LIAR WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT! Blackwater will not even allow those you named within their training facilities!. MUCH LESS ALLOW THEM TO CONTRACT OUT FOR THEM YOU IDIOT...Get your facts straight.

[dickietang]

anyway blackwater is not a good thing. I don't know if you're a kid who likes special opp stuff or a nationalist who believe in "fight fire with fire"

but we should not let some mercenaries go around and do what ever they pleaz. unless you're a racist fucktard, blackwater is bad for you

[leopold82]

You are higly misinformed. What does Blackwater have to do with racism? I do agree both sides have thier problems, however one side is consistantly shitting on the miltiary and hates it, and that is the liberals. There is nothing wrong with making money legally.

[stingshoot]

Its sad when war becomes a matter of stealing federal reserves and only that. I feel sorry for the families but it is illegal and against the laws of internal warfare to have mercenaries in warzones. I know your goverment gives a damm about laws that prevent them from getting their friends in the industry richer and richer. Blackwater can be linked with your current goverment.

[Beeba1]

Fucking boo hoo! They got smoked and the bitch is whining. They went fto kill for dollars and got killed. Black water is a joke the US military should shut it down. No reason a PFC should get 1k a month while black water mercs get 10x that! A joke.

[leopold82]

Highly misinformed you are. A PFC doesnt have the skill that a Blackwater operative has. If a PFC did, he would work for Blackwater. It's that simple.

[leopold82]

Blackwater is a good thing. The liberals dont like this organization because it is a capitalistic business concept that was put to use by a former military man. Liberals hate capitalism and the military.

[dickietang]

actually liberals(clinton) are the one who let the blackwater be what they are. sorry leopeld82, but unlike you're theory of "there are definate two sides in our government" being republican or democrat doesn't metter. I'm not saying the us government is bad system but there are those fuckers who uses the system to get lots of money and they are on both sides

[Austintatious88]

Being part of Blackwater they recieved higher pay, but they were part of black operations so people don't even know they existed (until this inncident anyway). Sad, but it's the price they pay for allying themselves with more money and the ability to be above any form of law, instead of joining the US military.

[jat779933]

Youre sick! We are lucky to have guys like them! Id like to see you over there!

[t0mf0olery]

Those sick fucks got what they deserved! Why dont we hear any family members of dead iraqis. She wants you to feel bad for her cold blooded killing family member. She should be the next one deployed in Iraq

Boohoo Boohoo Fuck blackwater And their families..."MR.T starter Kit" HAHAHA

[nobster]

blackwater operators consists of former spec ops personal who served this country and wanted to do this more because they loved it. BW persuaded them more w/ money and false documents. they were good men... get your facts straight you dum fuk...

[CMOSjockey]

I'm sorry, you expected a corporation thriving under the GOP run government to actually give a crap about your life? You die, they just bill the taxpayer for another one. You should have gotten back in a US uniform, instead of being a mercenary. And stop voting for the GOP that only cares about corp rights.

[slowagon]

wtf is up with her Mr T starter kit.

[hankins0621]

I dont know if I believe this I talked to a shit load of black water guys in iraq and they all loved it.

[progressiveobserver]

American soldiers should be paid what they are paying mercenaries. Clear standards, accountability, no poaching. Problem solved.

No money is saved with contractors. Everything is more expensive and many of the contracts are cost-plus. It is bare faced filthy war-profiteering though clearly, as with all US corporations, many times the obscene greed and stealing at the top, does not trickle down to the people actually working on the ground or the price for higher wages is fatally cut corners.

[slowpy2007]

more than 3,000 dead american soldiers...and around 800 military contracters killed also in iraq imagine in afghanistan combine all toghther bring those soldiers home...

[DevLcL]

More people died on June 6th, 1944 than throughout the entire war on terror so far (including 9/11 and the Afgahnistan).

[klarsen]

not true. "According to the D-Day Museum at Portsmouth, US casualties totalled 6,603; The US casualties included 1,465 dead, 3,184 wounded, 1,928 missing and 26 captured, most of them at Utah Beach, where German resistance was particularly fierce."

Note the difference between casualties and dead.

[Wally4363]

Try Omaha Beach. Read a book. Look at the causalty figures from Gettysburg while you're at it.

[EchelonMonitor]

Wally, so we should be concerned because it's 3,000 instead of 3,000,000?

Try telling that to the families of those 3,000 you asshole.

[EchelonMonitor]

typo:  left out a "not" after should

[Wally4363]

Sticks and stones, I've been called a lot worse from better people so you're not hurting my feelings. Its still an all volunteer military and contractors can leave any time they please. People like you slave me. I was hit when I was in and I don't whine about it because I ASKED to go. Good luck with Hillary in office is all I can you.

[EchelonMonitor]

If you're a wounded vet, I would have thought you'd have more sympathy for the families of guys who got killed.

And no thanks on Hillary, but it looks like we're not going to have much choice.

My choice, and the choice of everyone I know who knows anything about him, is Ron Paul, but the corporate media is, of course, ignoring him.

[Wally4363]

No one had sympathy for me and I didn't and don't want it. At least we agree on something. Ron Paul. Keep the faith.

[EchelonMonitor]

I understand where you're coming from, and I apologize for the name calling.

My anger was against the argument that 3,000 deaths are insignificant because there are historical battles where many times that were lost.

[EchelonMonitor]

And it's not just the military--more than half of CIA "agents" are "green badges", that is, employed by private companies with no standard governmental oversight.

In other words, much of domestic and international surveillance is handled by private companies.

What's worse is the interrogations handled by employees of private companies. There have been numerous instances of people being tortured to death with virtually no consequences.

[EchelonMonitor]

Google: aclu autopsy reports

and

CIA contractor

and make sure you watch the film "Iraq For Sale"

[Wally4363]

Exactly. Watch "Iraq For Sale" on UTube for FREE. Don't buy it or rent it.

You wouldn't know a green badger or blue badger if one walked up and kicked you in the nuts. People still hav e no clue how much money we save in the long run using contractors.

[EchelonMonitor]

Contractors are fine for kp duty--ít's dangerous to democracy when they take over police, military and intelligence operations.

wgaf about the money? The administration is burning that faster than anyone could save it.

[2012Shift]

Also, incase toy didnt know, we now have military recruting stations in south america offering citizenship for trade for fighting in this illigitamate war / occupation!

[2012Shift]

This has to be stopped! This is the largest private military history has ever seen! est over 100,000 - And they say we are dependent on them to be able to "win" because our military is stretched so thin! -> They fall outside of the military code of justice, they fall outside the ganiva convention and are accountable to no one - and with this admin can not be held accountable!

[unfurth]

haha mercenary bbq

[2012Shift]

its a sad day when kids think is funny that people are dieing! -

[unfurth]

it's not funny.but private contracters undermine our country.raise your hand if you want a private,right wing army on US soil.

[EchelonMonitor]

Private army AND private intelligence operation--if that doesn't wake people, they deserve to die in their sleep.

Google:  Revolving Door to Blackwater Causes Alarm at CIA

[DevLcL]

Your obviously not an American... Or at least not a very good one.

[ArlenNess2]

you already have one in AmeriKKKa

[SirTrollsAlot]

for a soldier who has been to battle, working a civilian job is harder than you think, if youve ever been in the military youd know that this is all a seasoned soldier knows. war is all we are taught, war is all we think about, war is everywhere and you cannot escape it. PMC's are the future of war wether you like it or not.

[mroup]

you have got to be kidding me!! Scotty was yelled at and couldnt go out the next day? This guy was a former Seal, Special Forces, A Team etc. and he was "yelled at and it hurt his feelings" These guys and their families had no problem colleting the over 300k /yr unitl they died. These hardcore tough soldiers who died for us would probably roll over in their graves if they found out there families are suing the govt to earn money on their deaths. Disgusting!!!!

[Wally4363]

Same old crap. They paid us crap for years for wearing the uniform and protecting their asses. We learned nothing but fighting wars. So when we get out and make money doing the only thing we know how to do they get pissed about it. Ingrates. You all suck.

[dorfie69]

The good paying jobs in USA are vanishing unless you take one in a war zone. Go Democracy and Freedom. sad days

[ArchNME]

This isn't a hearing about them being mercenaries, it's some lawsuit by the familys of blackwater employees, no laws are being enforced here. The dispute is over blackwater giving the info about exactly how these guys died to the families. No one seems to care that we are hiring mercs. That's why I was pointing it out.

[Adrazar]

These men may well have deserved their fate, acting as mercenaries in an unjust war, but there is no reason dancing on their graves and their families carry only minimal blame. The question here is if the people organizing these crimes will meet the fate they deserve.

[SatwaDude]

Your tax payer dollars pay these mercenaries. The US pays them to do what they do.

[ArchNME]

UN Resolution 44/34 explicitly forbids the hiring of mercenaries!!!

[ddd46219]

Since when did the United States government ever follow any of thier own laws? It is only going to get worse. Prepare.

[ilextree]

I hate the concept of mercenaries but these families are victims of the bush regimes piratization and the theft of our jobs by neil bush who was allowed by Clinton to give away our jobs and industries to China.

[cbrock7]

How can you not have pity and endless sympathy for these families? It is hearings like this that really exposes the underbelly of Bush's privitized war and war profiteering.

[ballpeenenvy]

Finally this is being investigated. Good on Democrats!

[dbtubestar]

this is not about or how much they do or do not deserve to die >>> this is about the privatization of the military and how unaccountable and immoral these companies are insentivized to be

[JOYOUSONEX]

Exactly db!!!

[m00g5]

I don't feel sorry for mercs getting screwed by Blackwater. Blackwater and the mercs that work for them place no value on human life. Screw them both.