It was a cooler but he lost the maximum. There was no need to push at the end. There's no hand that would call him that he beats. All he had to do was call at the end. It still would've sucked, but he wouldn't have gone broke.
Wow its a movie, they really don't have time to actually show how poker works. Get past the minor details that are glossed over. This isn't an instructional poker movie, its a just an entertaining movie.
@DMenase24 lol even though its unrealistic i learned some stuff from this movie, making me win a home poker game against like 5 or 6 ppl and i made $200 at a casino later. This and facebook poker pretty much taught me poker but im not that into it, dont wanna turn to gambling
Damon's character is so annoying. Know-it-all who's the biggest donk ever.
Overbet flop to make it look like a bluff...yeah...obviously.
Check turn filling up when you specifically think your opponent is on a flush draw...solid.
And a beautiful hollywood jam on the river.
Once KGB snap-calls he can only have aces full of course...he's obviously folding other full houses. From what we know about him he will never fold a flush and will have a hard time folding trip-nines for that matter.
So many live fish overbet pound limped pots with top two. I always wonder if they're trying to follow Matt Damon's advice to make it look like a "steal."
@checkoutmymelody180 he was outplayed because Teddy disguised the strength of his hand. He convinced Matt Damon that he was looking for the flush. He never put him on Aces because he didn't re-raise pre-flop. Also, Damon went all in when he didn't have to. If Teddy went all in it would be different...
No one in their right mind would have folded this hand. The guy slow played Aces but Matt Damon's hand would have busted out anyone. Nobody lays that down. Many people forget that poker is a skill game but there is an element of luck involved. If KGB had reraised with Aces before the flop I could see Damon folding but after the flop that would have been a hard hand to let go of.
I have a legitimate question. couldnt he of just snap called. and showed the cards? Isnt the slow counting of the chips and talking sheet a slowroll? There was no more action and he was not folding. Come on. I guess mike tried to play him with the spades speech and the long count. so i guess it was tooshay?
Ill be honest i like KGB. He talks alot of trash, and he loves cards. He plays hard, and hes not as dumb as he looks. And when he gets beat at the end he just says pay the man he beat me.
The only bad move Mike made was raising on the river. He should have simply called the $15,000. Then, if he's beat, he's still got $33,000 to keep playing with.
every pro knows, when u DONT have the NUTS, u try to win, but NOT ALOT if you chek, atleast he wont bet all in and u might call and still be in the game, or make him shortstack ;) this is redicilous. NO PRO would say matt played right.
@TheQxn That's retarded. They're short handed - its full house vs full house........all the money is going in the middle. Every pro out there would have gotten it in with Matts hand in that situation.
@wsucouga And did you notice teddy kgb smooth called a raise preflop with Aces? Who puts him on that hand? and he cant have quad 9s you got a 9. Aces all that can beat you and the smooth call pre elminates that usually.
@TheQxn if that's the case... Malkovich should have folded... because he too don't have the nuts so he shouldn't call an all in bet... the nuts for this hand is pocket nines making four of a kind... and since Malkovich got 2 Aces... he don't have a four of a kind blocker and hence knew that he still can be beaten
matt just announced he only got a set (but actually have full) by saying to malkovich "he doesnt have the spades"...meaning matt saying he only has a set and john can only beat him with a flush.....
@zights if he had a set he would have the full house, a set is when you have a pocket pair and make three of a kind. and the paired board would make a set a full house
lol at this being outplayed. Being a mid stakes player myself I know he played this hand villian dependently and basically perfectly. Just a cooler, happens to the very best.
@GoSU4u1 It definitely was a cooler, but I don't like the turn check.
If Teddy has just A K or A Q, and another ace peels off on the river, you just cost yourself half the pot because it's a chop. Teddy is a check-caller/fish in every scene. I would bet all my made hands hard and not be too cute like Mike did.
Of course it didn't end up costing him anything because he was dead from the beginning, but it could have and there's no real benefit to checking that boat there.
@atomisten Yeah, I know, there is a chance he could be on a flush draw, and you make some money if a spade peels off... but that's exactly why you should bet there. Because if he IS on a flush draw, he's gonna call a huge bet there anyway, to try to hit.
And if a spade DOESN'T come off, then you got $0 on the turn from your full house, and you're gonna get $0 on the river because he is going to fold his missed draw. So you got $0 of value from basically the second nuts. Bad play IMO.
@terracottapie matt damon stated that he would play the hand differently against weaker players, but he considers that guy a stronger player, so if he would bet high then his opponent would fold his flush draw since u only have 16% for it and that would make bad pot odds to call a large bet. and it doesnt really matter if he has AK,AQ, AJ, giving those hands +1 card is good too, maybe they catch a Q, K, J so he can still get all his money from him. and for another A on river is only 2% chance
The flush draw is 33% not 16%...and I think he does that continuation bet to make kgb look like a bluff...then when kgb calls he thinks he think he might have a flush draw, otherwise if he raised an high ace like ak beaucose he think of a bluff...that's how I see it
@GiulioTheBeast ..for flush draw u have 16% for each street, or do u think players go allin on the flop or what? else u will usually have to pay on each street to see the next card.
but nonetheless, u gotta trust your read on your opponents, if u think he has a flush draw u go with it, if he plays it like a flush draw even on later streets then u go with that read. + when u have the nuts u usually need to give free cards to opponents to catch up in strength to get called if u bet huge.
meh....sets are check raising almost every time on this flop, yet teddy is never calling the river jam with a flush. with full houses discounted because most would c/r flop and the fact that matt damon has his entire roll on the table (and therefore will be playing conservatively - not raising low full houses) then teddy is only going to be calling with a worse boat. bad jam by damon with nines full then - only better hands are calling unless it's a sick levelling war...
Just to add, I agree that the speech was stupid. Of course, this is just to help the non-Poker playing audience to understand what's going on. In real life, you would never say "you don't have the spades" because it is practically advertising your full house.
so he started with 30k and on the last bet he had 48k total? Call it a night man!
And it is not a bad beat even Phil Ivey would call and not believe you are behind with the second nut full. He sat on the Aces and case one fell. Happens but very rarely just like set over set. Anyone calls even check calling.
Thing is if you can read a set that is the biggest play in a game to save you money. His hint should have been he "got the speech" and an "I call" usually notes player starts with a pair.
not a cooler, outplayed...smooth call preflop. anyone with a set would've led out with a set of aces, and another check on the turn. Damon got outplayed. There are no COOLERS in poker, just excuses.
@proudfoot25 Dude, you're confusing the movie character with the person who played that role. Matt Damon was working as a janitor at MIT around that time, commuting from South Boston.
I'm gonna go all in cause i dont think you got the spades??? What kind of speech is that?? One thing is for sure. Every decent player would throw his spades to the muck after that speech by mister Damon.
Not true, at1212. Whether you say "bet" or not if you don't specify the amount you can't move chips past the bet line more than once. This was definately a string bet. Teddy didn't say "15,000" until after he moved in his first stack of chips.
@robustrust - I never understood all the string bets in movies. Unbelievable. In older movies you have players saying shit like "Call your 500..... [pause] .... and raise you a 1000". You say "CALL" it's a fucking CALL! You can't say "call and raise".
if you watched the movie, that is what the main character admitted to; he admitted that he got outplayed. i don't personally agree with it though; i would've done the same thing with that kind of hand
It really pisses me off how Matt Damon and other cast members didn't get recognition for this outstanding movie. Matt Damon and Ed Norton had to actually learn poker, and they made it believeable that they knew poker, that they were actually acceptional. Also John Malkavich(Idk if I'm spelling his last name right) was amazing and John turturro was also good. They should have got some kind of reward for how hard they worked.
He bet 15k into a 5k pot, with second full house, just call! I mean, if he bet something more reasonable like 5k into a 5k pot, matt would raise to 15k anyways.
It seems people don't understand what an overbet in poker means, it means either a monster or a bluff, obviously a bluff won't call the shove, so you assume Teddy would call with a monster? Why? just because you got a fullhouse doesn't mean its the automatic nuts, Teddy is repping a fullhouse, so by shoving Mike is repping nutfullhouse or quads. This is a definate call, if for no other reason Mike's bankroll is on the line.
this is fucking stupid there are only 2 aces left in mikes point of view as there are 2 9 from kgbs point of view so he simply didnt got outplayed cauz if damon had nines he would simply win the same way...
Keeping in mind that it's just a movie, it's a pretty poor play to move in in that spot there. He's not getting called by 8s full, 3s full or a worse 9s full...I know its just part of the story, but no one playing at this level would make this poor of a move.
That's stupid. If you play heads up, and you laid down a full house, then you'd be an idiot. Theres a chance that Teddy would call with worse and in heads up, that hand would seem like a lock. This is simply a cooler. the secret to the game: Dont play your whole bankroll in one game! Bankroll management.
I didn't say anything about laying it down, but moving in for your entire stack is a poor move in this spot, movie or not. He's not getting called by a flush or 8s full.
not smart of him to play such high limits with his entire bankroll, even if hes ahead most of the time on the flop, even 20% is too big to have his stack put on the line
Too many people play this game before the flop. Explain you're reasoning. Because he was dealt Aces pre flop (with out any hand being made yet) he deserves to win the hand just like that? Just because he was dealt aces? That kind of takes away from the whole point of the game wouldn't you say? Determining who should win based solely the TWO cards you are dealt BEFORE the flop, BEFORE your 5-Card hand is made...
It's a cooler pure and simple. Second nuts to the nuts is a cooler.
i understand where you're coming from, it was a cold deck for matt damon..reason why, it seems to be a 4 handed game being played, and any ace with four people is good. damon was just unlucky he had to go against aces in that situation. because after the flop he had two pair against the big blind, and as poker players, people jus calling raises in the big blind usually does not have anything. big blind played it perfect in this situation
hit n run?
zarglezor 2 weeks ago
It was a cooler but he lost the maximum. There was no need to push at the end. There's no hand that would call him that he beats. All he had to do was call at the end. It still would've sucked, but he wouldn't have gone broke.
larrymcg421 2 months ago
@larrymcg421 You think he is folding all other full houses???????? He has to raise, flatting the 2nd nuts on that board is far too nitty
sidsa9 2 months ago
@sidsa9 All other full houses? The only one he could get paid off from would be 8s full of 9s. Anything else gets folded or beats him.
larrymcg421 2 months ago
@larrymcg421 Bullshit
PhoenixJuice 1 month ago
variance at its best
scoobyj2002 3 months ago
Wow its a movie, they really don't have time to actually show how poker works. Get past the minor details that are glossed over. This isn't an instructional poker movie, its a just an entertaining movie.
RIBASAROUS 3 months ago 3
outplayed? right.... reminds me of the quad Jacks vs a fullboat in Casino Royale; where the guy said, 'you must be think I was bluffing'....right....
Cruzzzzz1988 3 months ago
everytime on pokerstars lol
djadel85 3 months ago
sick
irishdan2007 4 months ago
mr ripley vs mr ripley!
BiggCojones 4 months ago
This is SO unrealistic
DMenase24 4 months ago
@DMenase24 lol even though its unrealistic i learned some stuff from this movie, making me win a home poker game against like 5 or 6 ppl and i made $200 at a casino later. This and facebook poker pretty much taught me poker but im not that into it, dont wanna turn to gambling
LeBronForTheWin 4 months ago
i FUCKING FREAK OUT when i hear teddy eating i passed through dat scene man fuck him and fuck oreos
Got5on 4 months ago
He splashed the pot!!
jet6r6 5 months ago
More of a cooler than an outplayed.
PrettyBoyFalco 5 months ago
@PrettyBoyFalco agreeed not out played cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolerd
ryanbabbage 5 months ago
Damon's character is so annoying. Know-it-all who's the biggest donk ever.
Overbet flop to make it look like a bluff...yeah...obviously.
Check turn filling up when you specifically think your opponent is on a flush draw...solid.
And a beautiful hollywood jam on the river.
Once KGB snap-calls he can only have aces full of course...he's obviously folding other full houses. From what we know about him he will never fold a flush and will have a hard time folding trip-nines for that matter.
bibbbydybabbbydyboo 5 months ago
STRING!!!!!!
AwollSGF 6 months ago
it would be a really bad beat if he had the aces and kgb had pocket 9's... which has happened to me. i thought i was kgb... but i wasnt. lol
seviren 6 months ago
So many live fish overbet pound limped pots with top two. I always wonder if they're trying to follow Matt Damon's advice to make it look like a "steal."
lflores826 6 months ago
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sneak108 6 months ago
john turturros smokin weed ;)
laffizzle 6 months ago
how is this getting outplayed. coolered maybe yes.
checkoutmymelody180 7 months ago 3
@checkoutmymelody180 Yup. The nut full house over the second nut full house is only "maybe" a cooler.
gavnastyyy 1 month ago
@gavnastyyy i was speaking figuratively for the railtards.
checkoutmymelody180 1 month ago
@checkoutmymelody180 he was outplayed because Teddy disguised the strength of his hand. He convinced Matt Damon that he was looking for the flush. He never put him on Aces because he didn't re-raise pre-flop. Also, Damon went all in when he didn't have to. If Teddy went all in it would be different...
LiveFromWVU32 7 hours ago
matt has a horrible poker face
simplelife008 7 months ago
Fail
AppleKidX 8 months ago
This son of beech all night he check check, He TRAP ME!
lagundafire 8 months ago
that was a string bet there kayge.
seaquoia 8 months ago
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anmol745 9 months ago
Wow, you know its backroom poker when he string bets the hell out of that 15,000
darksquall87 9 months ago
No one in their right mind would have folded this hand. The guy slow played Aces but Matt Damon's hand would have busted out anyone. Nobody lays that down. Many people forget that poker is a skill game but there is an element of luck involved. If KGB had reraised with Aces before the flop I could see Damon folding but after the flop that would have been a hard hand to let go of.
RaffleisRight 9 months ago
Great scene but Malkovich's hokey Russkie accent isn't fooling anyone. In fact, it's insulting. They should have booked Meryl Streep to play KGB.
Rhino16161 10 months ago
they dont even flip over damons cards what if he had 99 and that asshole is scooping his chips.
hockeyislife67 11 months ago
outplayed... surely! lmao u have this your going broke.
rickybobby5150 11 months ago
OREO :D
simobgbgbg 11 months ago
bad rivershove
dustinkstnachkot123 11 months ago
bet 15k into a pot of roughly 5k lol.
dh144498 1 year ago
I have a legitimate question. couldnt he of just snap called. and showed the cards? Isnt the slow counting of the chips and talking sheet a slowroll? There was no more action and he was not folding. Come on. I guess mike tried to play him with the spades speech and the long count. so i guess it was tooshay?
sneak108 1 year ago
@sneak108
When you win a hand like that you like to relish it, twist the knife a little.
Morrinn3 11 months ago
@sneak108
It is the KGB,s place - ha can do whatever he wants ;)
Queenbg1 10 months ago
Bad bankroll management.
kirby4blues 1 year ago 2
@kirby4blues exactly. kanish tried to tell him.
sneak108 1 year ago
Ill be honest i like KGB. He talks alot of trash, and he loves cards. He plays hard, and hes not as dumb as he looks. And when he gets beat at the end he just says pay the man he beat me.
sneak108 1 year ago
The only bad move Mike made was raising on the river. He should have simply called the $15,000. Then, if he's beat, he's still got $33,000 to keep playing with.
2redaces 1 year ago
Matt: 3 nines and 2 aces (full house)
Malkovich: 3 aces.
Why does Malkovich win the hand?
alsjemeneus 1 year ago
@alsjemeneus
Matt: 9's full of Aces
Malkovich: Aces full of nines
RoxiSunshine 1 year ago
@RoxiSunshine Oh yes, now I see :)
alsjemeneus 1 year ago
@alsjemeneus he had more then 3 aces buddy. those are aces full of nines. a sweet sweet hand.,
sneak108 1 year ago
@alsjemeneus youre a homo ... sukkel
girlie347 7 months ago
@girlie347 stoer man, trash talk via internet, jij durft!
alsjemeneus 7 months ago
every pro knows, when u DONT have the NUTS, u try to win, but NOT ALOT if you chek, atleast he wont bet all in and u might call and still be in the game, or make him shortstack ;) this is redicilous. NO PRO would say matt played right.
TheQxn 1 year ago
@TheQxn That's retarded. They're short handed - its full house vs full house........all the money is going in the middle. Every pro out there would have gotten it in with Matts hand in that situation.
wsucouga 1 year ago
@wsucouga And did you notice teddy kgb smooth called a raise preflop with Aces? Who puts him on that hand? and he cant have quad 9s you got a 9. Aces all that can beat you and the smooth call pre elminates that usually.
sneak108 1 year ago
@TheQxn if that's the case... Malkovich should have folded... because he too don't have the nuts so he shouldn't call an all in bet... the nuts for this hand is pocket nines making four of a kind... and since Malkovich got 2 Aces... he don't have a four of a kind blocker and hence knew that he still can be beaten
KenMcGormick 1 year ago
@KenMcGormick
matt just announced he only got a set (but actually have full) by saying to malkovich "he doesnt have the spades"...meaning matt saying he only has a set and john can only beat him with a flush.....
zights 9 months ago
@zights if he had a set he would have the full house, a set is when you have a pocket pair and make three of a kind. and the paired board would make a set a full house
cody1258th 9 months ago
Yeah that's not a bad beat, that just sucks ass.
Haydog17 1 year ago
I just fucking had this happen to me....ugh
tintinbeotch 1 year ago
"aces full mike"
"fuck u i have pocket 9s"
dh144498 1 year ago
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PawketzRawketz 1 year ago
bankroll managment, my friend
joebrochill92 1 year ago
lol at this being outplayed. Being a mid stakes player myself I know he played this hand villian dependently and basically perfectly. Just a cooler, happens to the very best.
GoSU4u1 1 year ago
@GoSU4u1 It definitely was a cooler, but I don't like the turn check.
If Teddy has just A K or A Q, and another ace peels off on the river, you just cost yourself half the pot because it's a chop. Teddy is a check-caller/fish in every scene. I would bet all my made hands hard and not be too cute like Mike did.
Of course it didn't end up costing him anything because he was dead from the beginning, but it could have and there's no real benefit to checking that boat there.
terracottapie 1 year ago
@terracottapie the point of check as explained was to give him another card which might turn to be a spade hence winning all the pot
atomisten 9 months ago
@atomisten Yeah, I know, there is a chance he could be on a flush draw, and you make some money if a spade peels off... but that's exactly why you should bet there. Because if he IS on a flush draw, he's gonna call a huge bet there anyway, to try to hit.
And if a spade DOESN'T come off, then you got $0 on the turn from your full house, and you're gonna get $0 on the river because he is going to fold his missed draw. So you got $0 of value from basically the second nuts. Bad play IMO.
terracottapie 9 months ago
@terracottapie matt damon stated that he would play the hand differently against weaker players, but he considers that guy a stronger player, so if he would bet high then his opponent would fold his flush draw since u only have 16% for it and that would make bad pot odds to call a large bet. and it doesnt really matter if he has AK,AQ, AJ, giving those hands +1 card is good too, maybe they catch a Q, K, J so he can still get all his money from him. and for another A on river is only 2% chance
atomisten 9 months ago
The flush draw is 33% not 16%...and I think he does that continuation bet to make kgb look like a bluff...then when kgb calls he thinks he think he might have a flush draw, otherwise if he raised an high ace like ak beaucose he think of a bluff...that's how I see it
GiulioTheBeast 8 months ago
@GiulioTheBeast ..for flush draw u have 16% for each street, or do u think players go allin on the flop or what? else u will usually have to pay on each street to see the next card.
but nonetheless, u gotta trust your read on your opponents, if u think he has a flush draw u go with it, if he plays it like a flush draw even on later streets then u go with that read. + when u have the nuts u usually need to give free cards to opponents to catch up in strength to get called if u bet huge.
atomisten 8 months ago
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teddy walks away like he the nuts - massive donkey
eddycadub 1 year ago
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eddycadub 1 year ago
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eddycadub 1 year ago
teddy walks away like he had the nuts, massive donkey
eddycadub 1 year ago
@eddycadub he could tell from the players reacton at 4:05
henrytse 1 year ago
yep, pretty sure i'm going to get outplayed as well when the only hand beating me is the 2 red aces
dl400apl 1 year ago 2
meh....sets are check raising almost every time on this flop, yet teddy is never calling the river jam with a flush. with full houses discounted because most would c/r flop and the fact that matt damon has his entire roll on the table (and therefore will be playing conservatively - not raising low full houses) then teddy is only going to be calling with a worse boat. bad jam by damon with nines full then - only better hands are calling unless it's a sick levelling war...
IamTHEredux 1 year ago
Every pro in the world makes the same play Damon did. Ivey, Hellmuth, Brunson, Dwan. It's just a cooler. It happens and it sucks.
b1naryd1g1t5 1 year ago
Just to add, I agree that the speech was stupid. Of course, this is just to help the non-Poker playing audience to understand what's going on. In real life, you would never say "you don't have the spades" because it is practically advertising your full house.
b1naryd1g1t5 1 year ago
so he started with 30k and on the last bet he had 48k total? Call it a night man!
And it is not a bad beat even Phil Ivey would call and not believe you are behind with the second nut full. He sat on the Aces and case one fell. Happens but very rarely just like set over set. Anyone calls even check calling.
Thing is if you can read a set that is the biggest play in a game to save you money. His hint should have been he "got the speech" and an "I call" usually notes player starts with a pair.
kiddwalker 1 year ago
not a cooler, outplayed...smooth call preflop. anyone with a set would've led out with a set of aces, and another check on the turn. Damon got outplayed. There are no COOLERS in poker, just excuses.
bonnybeing 1 year ago
@bonnybeing if u have Quad Aces and lose to a Royal Flush is not a cooler, u got outplayed, right ? LOL. "There are no coolers" XD
ODAR69 1 year ago
Lol ... Look how Teddy Spells the CHECK word .... He's funny and bad at English .. :))))
Flako1able 1 year ago
he's sexy!!!
088LATENIGHT 1 year ago
this guy has poor bankroll management...case money,tuition?dude,your matt damon not phil ivey
proudfoot25 1 year ago 6
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HotSh0e 1 year ago
@proudfoot25 Dude, you're confusing the movie character with the person who played that role. Matt Damon was working as a janitor at MIT around that time, commuting from South Boston.
JohnLeeMD 1 year ago
lol @requesting time and then shoving all in
sikwitit345 1 year ago
I'm gonna go all in cause i dont think you got the spades??? What kind of speech is that?? One thing is for sure. Every decent player would throw his spades to the muck after that speech by mister Damon.
arant86 1 year ago
"im done, im out"
"thats what they all say at first"
been there lol
chuckbiss 1 year ago
yep, that's a cooler alright.
adam75south 1 year ago
shoulda used bankroll management :O
Bell0my 1 year ago 3
His mistake was thinking that KGB called a 2000 bet into a 1000 pot on the flop w/ just a draw.
uddin002 1 year ago
@uddin002 his mistake was failing to realize he was in a movie and he was going to lose all his money to drive forward the plot
brainsbranes 1 year ago 2
exactly.. people have to realize this was before the poker boom
Jerkyboy2169 1 year ago
Not true, at1212. Whether you say "bet" or not if you don't specify the amount you can't move chips past the bet line more than once. This was definately a string bet. Teddy didn't say "15,000" until after he moved in his first stack of chips.
robustrust 1 year ago
@robustrust - I never understood all the string bets in movies. Unbelievable. In older movies you have players saying shit like "Call your 500..... [pause] .... and raise you a 1000". You say "CALL" it's a fucking CALL! You can't say "call and raise".
lookaguru 1 year ago
kelly criterion?
kitefrog 1 year ago
would have been funny if he slow rolled him with 99
perturber 1 year ago
LOL OUTPLAYED
GalexOwns 1 year ago
String Bet
bazza23 1 year ago
@bazza23 Sort of looked like it, but not really. He called 'Bet' before he moved his first stack therefore could do whatever he wanted basically.
at1212b 1 year ago
aces full??? i got quad nines biatch
kalee6 1 year ago 4
I could stab the director of this movie, He makes Poker look like a joke.
UndeadKittens 1 year ago
@UndeadKittens it was made before the poker boom. people didn't know that much about poker back then
9Robin1 1 year ago
When your whole bankroll is 150BB, you've got problems.
briano8713 2 years ago 23
@briano8713 lol nice
sneak108 9 months ago
@briano8713 lol. He was going for it
sneak108 6 months ago
lmfao "outplayed" what kinda donkey is the uploader
JohnF30Music 2 years ago 3
@JohnF30Music
if you watched the movie, that is what the main character admitted to; he admitted that he got outplayed. i don't personally agree with it though; i would've done the same thing with that kind of hand
muaytb1 2 years ago
-Call.
-My guess is Teddy's on a flush draw.
Brilliant analysis LOL.
Rounders is an awesome movie, but it helps to destroy the understanding of the game for an average player rather than help
ModeLTU 2 years ago
2:52 Just one move if no words come out of your mouth, thought.
kikolovex3 2 years ago
i dont think calling 10k was in the script
nickblumb 2 years ago 2
he shoulda just called 10k still good for a full boat
pdxeddie1111 2 years ago
It really pisses me off how Matt Damon and other cast members didn't get recognition for this outstanding movie. Matt Damon and Ed Norton had to actually learn poker, and they made it believeable that they knew poker, that they were actually acceptional. Also John Malkavich(Idk if I'm spelling his last name right) was amazing and John turturro was also good. They should have got some kind of reward for how hard they worked.
mzpujols5 2 years ago
He bet 15k into a 5k pot, with second full house, just call! I mean, if he bet something more reasonable like 5k into a 5k pot, matt would raise to 15k anyways.
AdolfNewton 2 years ago
It seems people don't understand what an overbet in poker means, it means either a monster or a bluff, obviously a bluff won't call the shove, so you assume Teddy would call with a monster? Why? just because you got a fullhouse doesn't mean its the automatic nuts, Teddy is repping a fullhouse, so by shoving Mike is repping nutfullhouse or quads. This is a definate call, if for no other reason Mike's bankroll is on the line.
lurgertor 2 years ago 2
this is fucking stupid there are only 2 aces left in mikes point of view as there are 2 9 from kgbs point of view so he simply didnt got outplayed cauz if damon had nines he would simply win the same way...
kerato54 2 years ago
I sees fool Mike
LookAtTheWookie 2 years ago
i fail to see how he got outplayed. just a cooler.
Mizzledragon 2 years ago 36
I agree, nobody in the world could fold A-9 full heads up lol... (or even just call the raise instead of raising)
flamboyant514 2 years ago 2
@Mizzledragon agreed. i guess he coulda smooth called? yea right. lol
sneak108 1 year ago
dude Teddy cant have quad 9's beacuse Mike already had one of the nines
and yes this is one of the best scene from the movie =)
XmarMalik 2 years ago
Well...yea.
But only a damn fool is going to fold aces full heads up.
make7acs 2 years ago
what people fail to realize is that Teddy shouldnt have assumed he'd won the hand when he showed Mike his pocket rockets...
Mike could've had pocket 9's.... giving him quad 9's....
*sigh*
MaynardfromTool 2 years ago 3
lol that would have been sick
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MaxVegas100 2 years ago
I dont know why the KJB guy walked away after he showed aces full... its not the stone cold nuts. It was be funny if Damon flipped quad 9's!!
hunkybunkybeefy 2 years ago 3
All Im thinking about is Vegas and a fucking mirage
ftp44 3 years ago
the fuckin Mirage. it's a casino
pawppy 2 years ago
"The Mirage". It;s the casino with the lava/fire volcano shit out front. You've seen it a million times. Holler at your boy when you come to town.
TodaysRapSucks 2 years ago
Keeping in mind that it's just a movie, it's a pretty poor play to move in in that spot there. He's not getting called by 8s full, 3s full or a worse 9s full...I know its just part of the story, but no one playing at this level would make this poor of a move.
stooks99 3 years ago
I wouldn't be so sure... it might be a poor move, but many pros will do that it still.
jmbd07 2 years ago
That's stupid. If you play heads up, and you laid down a full house, then you'd be an idiot. Theres a chance that Teddy would call with worse and in heads up, that hand would seem like a lock. This is simply a cooler. the secret to the game: Dont play your whole bankroll in one game! Bankroll management.
hunkybunkybeefy 2 years ago
I didn't say anything about laying it down, but moving in for your entire stack is a poor move in this spot, movie or not. He's not getting called by a flush or 8s full.
stooks99 2 years ago
@stooks99 rofl are u saying durr etc would fold 8s full and 3s full on that board? or even worse 9:s full? omg u are so bad lol
thevoid1231 1 year ago
you're right feeroll donkey
jmbd07 3 years ago
not smart of him to play such high limits with his entire bankroll, even if hes ahead most of the time on the flop, even 20% is too big to have his stack put on the line
liu11 3 years ago 2
that's a cooler not a bad beat
jxwhee 3 years ago 30
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wow bad beat he took it well tho
AlanEmm08 3 years ago
aces beat Ace-9 before the flop, after the flop, turn, and river....no bad beat
JSBAPinoy89 3 years ago 4
Too many people play this game before the flop. Explain you're reasoning. Because he was dealt Aces pre flop (with out any hand being made yet) he deserves to win the hand just like that? Just because he was dealt aces? That kind of takes away from the whole point of the game wouldn't you say? Determining who should win based solely the TWO cards you are dealt BEFORE the flop, BEFORE your 5-Card hand is made...
It's a cooler pure and simple. Second nuts to the nuts is a cooler.
Wired8s 3 years ago
i understand where you're coming from, it was a cold deck for matt damon..reason why, it seems to be a 4 handed game being played, and any ace with four people is good. damon was just unlucky he had to go against aces in that situation. because after the flop he had two pair against the big blind, and as poker players, people jus calling raises in the big blind usually does not have anything. big blind played it perfect in this situation
JSBAPinoy89 3 years ago