@HellRehab No you fuckin blind idiot! LOLZ! Its obviously you for believing just a obvious lie! NO video of a plane hitting the pentagon! NO visible traces of a plane crash in pennsylvania! Building 7 collapsing in free fall over a small fire! Osama Bin Laden "killed" and thrown in the sea?!?!?! NO pictures, videos, nothing! Stop defending your little brother (US GOV) and wake up from the trance! LMFAO!
This kid is a loon. Just the overall tone of these two amateurs should be a good enough indicator as to who's winning this debate. Dylan and this Jason character are belligerent, they insult you when you say something they don't agree w/, they laugh all smugly when there's something they don't agree w/, their points are getting thrown right back in their face and they just verbally attack or change the subject.
9/11 wasn't an inside job, you truthers are truly pathetic.
Yall just a bunch of fuckin dumbasses to believe a full of shit official story by your lying government that screw yall in the ass every fuckin time.. NDAA in yo ass.. go figure
here is a guy who sat on the board of unocal, and not only that but whos brother is the biggest drug lord in the country,is anyone paying any fucking attention? condelze rice SAT ON THE BOARD OF CHEVRON,DICK CHENEY, HALIBURTON/KBR ,WHO HAD THE MOTIVE HERE?
we can sit and argue semantics of how the buildings fell and science and engineering and physics and if it was thermite of explosives all day, but the other facts speak volumes more about what this is, they wanted the pipeline to get the oil from the caspian sea,that was a huge part of it,though there is no single motive these people like to kill many birds with one stone, there is the opium and the military&civilain industrial complex and contracts, harmid karzi was put in in afghanistan
@bulletproof2353 You can argue the physics and engineering all you want; the peer edited and reviewed reports in physics and engineering journals; supported by over 300,000 professionals says more about their industry than you ever could. The fact is seismic recordings verify no explosions occurred, meaning no explosives were used. The pipeline from the Caspian Sea is natural gas, not oil; and is owned by the Asian Development Bank. Hamid Karzai is also a former Taliban.
@xFogxofxWarx there are seismographs that show a second event ,but it dont matter thermite dont explode anyway, and like i said the scientific evidence dont matter even if they were demolished by the planes only it dont prove the mossad and the cia didnt do it, you are naive , the zionist jews have a huge influence , they run the media for the anglo american wasp globalist elite, just like wmd's right, just like iran supposedly going to get a nuke right?
@bulletproof2353 just like they didnt kill the gas seperation expert scientis last week with the magnet bomb either right, just like netanyahu is not trying to instigate war with iran,not that i think the US or the military industrial complex and banking interests are not complicit ,im sure they know wht israel is doing or is doing their behals as well as their own ,just like cnn lost the feed when interviewign the soldier ron paul supporter the second after he mentions israel right
@bulletproof2353 as he is being interviewed by zionist jew dana bash on the zionist jew hosted situation room on cnn,like the AEI(zionist neocon think tank) sponsored debate on cnn where only zionist jews & neocons were the ones asking the questions all to do with attacking iran over a nuke program they dont even have,not that it would matter, they dont care about that,its about regime change,defence contracts and oil,they will lie about wmd and kill 1 million iraqis but not 3k americans right
Wow, that's a lot of Jew hatred. The second someone drops the word 'zionist', I immediately tune out. You lose all credibility when you drop that one, anti-semite.
@Illumirage i dont hate jews, and only about 40% are zionist, i think its higher in the US the israeli jews or about 60% or more now are against the likud government they dont like what is going on either,they know netanyahu is crazy and is going to get them all wiped from the map,there are plenty of liberal jews who dont believe in the zionist agenda of israel,and there are plenty of evangelical christian zionists,and i dont israel could have masterminded 9-11 or done it without the help of US
@bulletproof2353 involvement, the CIA and who ever else, there is no way they are at the top they are merely complicit and a tool of the NWO elites who are mostly anglo wasps,and once they are done using the jews to put their world government agenda in place they will destroy them too ,besides most of these people are not even real jews their euorpean ashkanazi kazars
@xFogxofxWarx and karzi was on the board of unocal and his brother was the biggest opium drug lord in the country, interesting choice of puppet for the US to install, also i guess it was just a coincidence that all the whitehouse cabinet were started on cipro weeks before the anthrax mailing too, israel bombed the liberty to try and get the US in the 6 day war and to attack egypt, you think they were not involved in 9-11 when all the evidence the media reported but didnt put together shows it
and oh that bad miraculously missed the plane ,how convenient ,everyone knew this was going to happen because of the pre propaganda in the main stream media, people like bill cooper totally called the whole thing,after the cnn bin laden interview, cnn,the zionist state run media here,who is cia connected ,they let a reporter go in and interview the most wanted man in the world, which he was ofr the cole bombing and the african embassys at the time,damn people are stupid,
i have heard the police recording of the dispatch reports of the vans of israelis, and them telling the cop oh you dont need to worry about us we are israeli israel is not your problem you need to worry about palestine they are your problem ,you have to be a fucking moron to believe the official story, why would the hijackers bring checked bags on the flight ,and then fill them with names of all the hijackers korans, and plans of the attacks and buildings?if it was a suicide mission?WAKE UP
@beradification so what i , i think he discredited himself by saying that, this was clearly a moussad /cia operation, no doubt about it, whether the buildings were blown up or not is irrelevant to proving the government is lying here, 5 vans of israelies, 2 with explosives ,another with a picture of planes blowing up the wtc painted on the side ,all that trace back to the same mossad front moving company ,should be enough that and the odigo texts and silversteins comments alone
@flamewatercirkus i dont think he meant just the fire fighters ,he meant the other people standing in the the impact zone that could be seen waving, ,but there is no point in arguing the science ,there is way more evidence that proves it was cia/moussad ,you dont have to prove the science to prove it was a flase flag event
even the far left guru noam chomsky says these guys are fools for this conspiracy theory, you can watch chomsky say it on you tube. Little punk kids who call rational people liars isnt ownage its bull shit
What I find funny is that in the debate, Jason starts by saying "all we're saying is that things don't add up and it's up to people to go research it". When confronted with explanations, he immediately calls the opponent a liar.
233 people don't want to see the rest of this debate. because 233 people remember Jason Bermas getting these questions answered and watching him get proved wrong over and over. Then he debates later with Mark Roberst where he gets owned over and over. He gets owned right after he's done talking its typical truther cutting the whole thing to make some idiot look intelligent lol
You are correct @Northeastbaseball. Also, he is ignoring the most basic fundamentals of science; hot air rises. The hottest part of the flame is the area above it, which is why firefighters don't stand over flames to put them out, they attack from the side and underneath where they are away from the heat.
Wow, what a bunch of ignorant, establishment lackeys commenting here. Anyone with half a brain could see the yellow journalists for what they are. I guess cognitive dissonance is too difficult to overcome for most.
Actually Bermas, people can. If a Firefighter is dressed in full Bunkergear (The gear that firefighters wear), the person can withstand temps of up to 800-100 degrees...so its not to far out of the realm that they couldve been in the impact zone...
DO SOME FACT CHECKING YOU STUPID FUCKING MORON!!!!
Too much aggression from both sides. This is not the way of doing a constructive debate. No matter if people believe on way or other there is no point of fight each other.
Everybody should want only the truth, so the discussions should be friendly and with open mind.
One point is clear, there is a lot of strange things about 9/11. Strange things is not prove of any thing so that is the debates and discussions is all about.
@arexyouxepicxenough you are right in a way, but popular mechanics has the whole NIST report to quote...plus they have an advantage in exp and credibility..That being said 3 buildings did not fall from 2 plane hits, and over 1600 arcitects and engineers have sacrificed earnings and career advancment to tell the puplic the science proves the NIST report wrong
Since when does an ad hominem attack count as "ownage"? All of his points are soundly debunked by the Popular Mechanics guys in the minutes following this clip.
A little common sense goes a long way. 3 concrete steel reinforced buildings have collapsed due to fire in human history. All 3 were in NYC. All three were owned by the same man, all three fell the same day, all three fell the same exact way. And in all your reasoning you can explain this away? On the contrary I would say you can rationalize it away. But if the truth is optional then error is justifiable. Believe as you will.
@sfcdawabn I wouldn't say that your argument contains any common sense. The two towers did not collapse "due to fire", they were rammed by commercial airplanes which absolutely destroyed about six floors immediately, and then were left to burn uncontrolled for 2 hours while the steel, stripped of its fireproofing, was being heated to a far weaker state and under tons of pressure from the above floors. You are not a revolutionary fighting for the truth, you are an idiot.
@jetscm4ev An idiot? really? Well then allow me to retort. When a structure such as a building would fall, it would fall in the path of least resistance. And it did. Straight down. Why? Because the lower floors were being blown out of underneath it. Least resistance "should have been" off to one side or another. If you watch the 1st tower begining to collapse it was going off to one side. But then fell straight down because of the controled det's that were taking place.
@jetscm4ev The planes did not destroy six floors completely. They even have a YouTube video of a woman standing in the massive hole the plane created. The buildings burned for 92 minutes and 105 minutes respectively. The Towers were built to withstand several impacts of this nature. Just like a screen dorr and withstand several holes being poked through it. The Towers were built in the same fashion. Then we have the molten steel in the basement of the towers. Where did that come from?
One more thing. It would seem many here are not famlair with "passion". I see no passion what so ever in the two stuffed suits. What I do see is a front. I see two young men with a fire burning for truth. They have great faith and the other two have nothing but words. Jason kicked their ass and they know it. America...you have no idea how much danger we are in. I pray your eyes will open and you will be able to see truth in what "Loose Change" is telling you.
Let it be known, whether you wish us well or ill, we will find the truth. Oh yeah, it will come out on this one. Unlike the Kennedy assasination. So keep up your slander, it only feeds us and gives us more determination to take down those responsible or affiliated. If you are not for us then you are against us. So send more insults. If truth is optional then error is justifiable.
What I see in the video clip is a young man putting forth an arguement. What I read below here in the comments is nothing but childish shit talk. He buried those two stuffed suits. Left them speechless. Just like he did to these commenters below. All you have is a vulgar tone. Common sense prevails gentlemen. These two young men have it. Plus they got the balls to speak the truth. Unlike the establishment.You can't see the choke hold the government has on this country then your part of problem
@sfcdawabn Nothing wrong with being passionate, however, passion doesn't equal truth. The "stuffed suits" don't have to get all worked up, because they have the facts on their side. And btw, Dylan Avery has recently stated that he was probably wrong on most of his claims from the loose change series.
@mechwurm yep and the government is well smart, especially the people who live by every word they say. use your own mind u fucking cabbage, u lot cant think for yourself. your the type of people who watch the weather report to see if its raining outside
@onebadmoto um the thing about his teeth was just an addition.. you can't come off as smart when your sentences don't make any sense, and you're teeth look like spongebobs..
you also can't come off as smart when on top of those two things, you get angry the second someone tries to counter something you say and raise your voice, and get all shaking and slur your words...
@HarrisonMilburn almost as tight as the condom that broke when you were conceived. you must be conservative. too ignorant to know and too stupid to care.
Go back to bed, America. Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. Here. Here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go, America! You are free to do as we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!
When you're young,you think you know everything,but learn later that you knew not anything.I encounter college aged kids who spout this crap all the time.He's all of a sudden an expert on planes crashing into buildings and engineering and world politics.I bet there is a crackpot college professor at the heart of all these kids thoughts.PS-What the hell is "ownage"?
@Mithrindir1 Just because someone is young does not mean they are automatically wrong. Younger people can so research and make conclusions just as well as anybody.
@Mithrindir1 I don't care what the fuck your bitching about, our government and these skumbags to the left of him don't GIVE A SHIT ABOUT the ppl of this country, or any other country. He's passionate and clearly fed up. How much more shit do we have to take? A revolution is the only way to change things because obviously walking around with signs doesn't do SHIT.
@HarrisonMilburn There were dozens of witnesses who heard explosions, and the dozens of fire fighters, fire chiefs and emergency workers. And not just small explosions, oh no, I'm talking explosions that knock people the fuck off their feet and onto the floor. Yes some people heard a lot of explosions and some heard a few, ok, so I guess that just means they were all just hearing things. They were probably all high or something, now let me shove my head in the sand and my thumb up my ass..
"i'm not caling anybody a liar, i'm calling you a liar!" the schmuck is saying contradictions... "because you are a liar" well great reasoning, that sure is a bullet proof assumption
i have never seen such arrogant /ignorant fools !!!
on 9/11 these young men were watching events happen like all of us, then suddenly they became 'experts' on what planes going 500 mph would do to buildings. As if ANYONE had everseen anything like that before, and a plane upside down at full throtle dive into a field!! some folks want to believe it and so they will believe anything. i hate so many parts of the US government but to believe this was an inside job takes a lot of ignoring facts
This guy does nothing to counter my impression that conspiracy people are all a bit unhinged.
It's just all so desperate. Maybe they could come up with real questions to be considered instead of wildly throwing any theory out there that fits their agenda of being anything but official. It's all too zealous to be serious.
'These are lies!' 'Your calling people liars--' 'Im not callling anyone a liar, your a liar!!!' LOL... wow Im convinced Jason. I cant believe people still take these changetards seriously
Wow, these young kids looked like idiots. The sad part is that they seem to truly believe their own BS. I almost (almost) felt bad for them at times during the interview.
@robotfreshpies Now you know what others think about these idiotic conspiracy theories. So, yes, my new theory is that robotfreshpies was behind the attacks and is trying to frame the US government as part of her coverup. Remember, I don't need evidence... I'm a conspiracy theorist. Where were you on that day? Have you been to Pakistan? If you don't provide proof (because you owe it to me) then you are clearly hiding something and thus guilty.
@lucious1224 But there is proof? Have you even watched the Loose Change video? Or are you one of those Americans who think the USA is the almighty superpower of good throughout the world, and don't listen to anything unless it's on CNN?
@robotfreshpies You use the word "Proof" very loosely. Yes, I watched the video, but also read what the experts say. The problem is the experts opinions are based on facts, while the information in the video is not based on fact. Example... They show early news coverage and claim that it must be true. Funny, the early news footage claimed the first plane was a small Cessna, proving it to be unreliable. They dismiss real evidence, which makes them ignorant or stupid. You decide.
all these conspiracy theorist bug me....they are imature, uneducated on their issues, and they are the ones who are truly not being skeptical. grow upyou wierdos!
@KTMONEY100 One of the wierdest coincidences about both 9/11 and 7/7 was that in both cases there were terrorist-drills taking place at the same time, where the drills acctually copied the MO and targets of the real attacks!
The statistics for this even happening are so implausible that it would be easier to find 1 certain grain of sand in searching all of the earths deserts.
Both attacks were planned long in advance and perpetrated by inside agents!!!
@athcliathrecords Yeah terrorist drills that they do all the time, mimicking really really obvious potential plans of attacks. I mean what evil genius could possibly come up with such a plot as putting a bomb on a subway train?!?? Who would ever think of that?! .... you're a fucking retard
@akaMouse haha '' really odvious plans'' that they had NO defensive against, so by your own approclamation they were ''drills'' that they ''do all the time'' i pressume to be prepared for attack, which they turned out to be completly unprepared for, you are in fact the retard, i own peanuts bigger than your brain u sheep minded gullable drone,,,,
When they make it illegal to breath you will probably hold your breath...... u fucking insect
@athcliathrecords I would agree with you that there is no real defense against terrorism, but your argument is that its this insanely unlikely event that they would be drilling against a bomb in a subway which is fucking braindead retarded. If you are gonna bother doing terrorism drills... a subway is a really good place to start. Remember the Japan subway gas attack? its not unusual to target a confined space that has lots of people -- Are you really this fucking stupid ?
@akaMouse listen mate ur making little to no sense at the moment, u said they run these drills all te time thats why u think they co-inside with the events, drills that if done as frequent as you claim would improve defensive against terrorism, defense that you admit didnt and doesnt exist, the senarios in the drills on them dates happened in REAL LIFE in EXACT DETAIL at the same time that the exercises were being conducted, if you thin that is a coincedence your a gullable fool
@athcliathrecords OK -- so correct me if I am wrong - your theory is that since they are enacting training drills that look like the attack that eventually happened -- that means that they themselves did the attack? Why the fuck would the plotters publicly enact their plot for everyone to see, right before they did it. The training drill looks like the attack that happened meaning the guys doing the training did the attack is the dumbest non sequitur ive heard in a while. Fuck you, idiot
@athcliathrecords OK -- so correct me if I am wrong - your theory is that since they are enacting training drills that look like the attack that eventually happened -- that means that they themselves did the attack? Why the fuck would the plotters publicly enact their plot for everyone to see, right before they did it. The training drill looks like the attack that happened meaning the guys doing the training did the attack is the dumbest non sequitur ive heard in a while. Fuck you, idiot
@akaMouse were did i insinuate that i thought the people doing the training did the attack are you for real the people who carryed out this are people behind the scenes in control of military operations ect it has nothing to do with a pilot in an f16, if you did any research you would see that the drills effected the response time for defensive action along with creating confusion for the people in a position to act as they didnt know if it was real or not listen to the air traffic tape u sheep
@randomtrader1 It just seems to me that all these conspiracy theorists just keep firing out ramdom twisted facts and questions that are aimed to make other conspiracy thorist go "oh my, yup this is proof" when really, i have yet to find a conspiracy theory vidoe, article etc. that actually contains well explained proof of their topics, instead of why this why that, did you know this, kind of shallow arguments. and loosing thier composure shows their immaturity, and lack of professionalism
@randomtrader1 It just seems to me that all these conspiracy theorists just keep firing out ramdom twisted facts and questions that are aimed to make other conspiracy thorist go "oh my, yup this is proof" when really, i have yet to find a conspiracy theory vidoe, article etc. that actually contains well explained proof of their topics, instead of why this why that, did you know this, kind of shallow arguments. and loosing thier composure shows their immaturity, and lack of professionalism
Most of the time the "Science Guys" never answered back on Jason they always brought something up about conspiracy theorists those guys in the suits only addressed little with evidence saying that they found tiny plane wreckage, ANYBODY could of put it there
Loose change = Juvenilia. And WTC 1, 2 and & look nothing like a controlled detonations. Have you any idea how much work there is in wiring an EMPTY building to implode it? I give up with these children.
Loose Change in its different versions sounds like high school kids ranting and I think that will feel a bit embarrassing to them when they are older.
There are things that need investigating such as the warnings and bin Laden's previous links with the US and the Bush family, But looking at videos of the day like this is just chasing ghosts.
@animatetime I mean I agree in a sense because this video is not PROVING anything with facts....but that still doesn't stray away from the fact that because of Loose Change (which is now televised on many channels on 9/11) the world knows a lot more about 9/11. Everything should be questioned.
There's none so blind as those who will not see. Wake up people. Seriously. And I don't want to offend anybody in here, but there are so many questions that are really obvious and people simply don't want to accept them..What happened with the WTC 7? How could the twin towers fall on its own footprint and at free-fall? Where are the plane wreck, the seats, the wings, the fuselage, the passengers after it hit the Pentagon? Those are just a few questions, where are the answers? Think about it...
Hahahaha, the conspiracy theorsts ramble the whole time with no credible facts, while the Popular Science guys calmly detail the facts as layed out by experts in the related fields. It's the same argument a person makes when they see a flash in the sky at night and automatically assume it's a UFO with no logical basis for the assumption.
@kellygiz Why dont you listen to the tone with which he is saying that. He said " im not calling 'anyone' a liar, I am calling YOU a liar" meaning that he is directing it to the opponent and not a generalised "anyone" group which is what his opponent accused him of doing.
Liar liar pants on fire,sorry I disavow any knowledge of your logic and proof and I will call you a liar because your proof dose not fit in my reality.
god i hate these fucking kids... also, the building that was hit second and fell first was also hit lower, putting more weight above the area of weakness, it should have fallen first, and it did... but I'm probably in the conspiracy!
i agree completely, these kids need to grow up and start doing some better research. They were terribly unprepared and the gentlemen from popular mechanics dismantled their "theories"
Look at the anger in that "kids" eyes. Who actually believes a person that argues like that?. Besides, when having a debate, if ANY evidence you give is flawed, your testamony is no longer viable and worthless. So much they say which can be proven wrong they are officially a joke. Take your pick. But ill give you mine. Rolls Royce track and analyse every engine they have in service REAL TIME, 10,000+ engines. Enough said. Its all a joke that I cant believe people gullible enough to fall for.
(cont'd) Lastly, when the media posted Osama's photo hours later, I shouted "That's BULLSHIT" at the tv screen. I knew THEN the government was lying to me. THE SAME MONTH Osama denied the attacks and said it is against his faith to attack all those women and children. Osama's health was also failing and he was on dialysis. He died YEARS ago. But, Americans are so dumb, lazy, brainwashed and chicken shit to admit they really DON'T WANT to know, because then they'd have to do something!!!
(cont'd) Also, there were MULTIPLE witnesses who said there were EXPLOSIONS in the train station AND THE LOBBY and THE ELEVATOR EXPLODED BEFORE THE BUILDINGS TOPPLED. Furthermore, building 7 housed CIA offices. Also, Mayor Guliani (which I always found suspect) knew when to leave the south tower for safety. A corrupt mayor, unpopular with many conscious Caucasian people, African-Americans and spanish-speaking residents....suddenly TIME magazine brands him "Man of the Year"!!? COME ON.
If the anonymous posters on here did not watch the entire documentary "Loose Change---Final Cut", you have NO RIGHT to judge Jason and his filmmaking partner. What---you can trust a MORON like George W. Bush and DEVILS like Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, DIck Cheney and Karl Rove----but you JUDGE THESE GUYS simply because they're young!? He's angry? HELL YEAH. But, tell me this----an ex-CIA agent who's been working in gov't for over 20 years was in the doc, as well as firefighters....
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
@IslamISsick1 And christianity claims that anyone who does not accept the word of god will burn in a fiery pit for eternity....Fear mongering 101...It's also claims in the new testament that it is OK to bring war to those who oppose the word of god...not verbatim, but I can find it if you'd like. The point is...every religion needs to be eradicated. They are a cancer that poisons our children and gives the an excuse not to think critically and question authority....
Just take a look at the opium production figures in afghanistan, in 2000 3,276 MT(metric tonnes) were produced and in 2001 185 MT, however if you look in 2007 after the invasion you see that 8,200 MT were produced, that is more than a 100% increase from 2000. These are official UN figures by the way
(CONT'D) FINISH WATCHING YOUR REALITY TV, CGI--3D MOVIES, PLAYING W/ YOUR VIDEO GAMES......BECAUSE TO QUESTION THEM IS TO THINK FOR YOURSELF. THEY'LL QUESTION YOUR EXPERTS AS IF THEY HAVE A MONOPOLY ON "EXPERTS", OR THE "OFFICIAL" REPORT. IF A PLANE IS GOING DOWN AND THE WING IS ON FIRE, THE GOVERNMENT IS LIKE THE PILOT, SENDING HIS PEOPLE (IN THIS SCENARIO, THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT) TO TELL OTHERS HOW CRAZY YOU ARE. WHY? THEY DON'T WANT PANIC, AND THEY DON'T TO LOSE POWER,
LISTEN TO ALL YOU SHEEPLE: THE TIME-PROVEN METHOD (21ST CENTURY, OR OTHERWISE---METHOD STAYS THE SAME) OF THE ELITE IS THIS: EVEN IF YOU SAW IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES.....EVEN IF YOU KNOW IT HAPPENED EXACTLY AS YOU EXPERIENCED IT---JUST AS THE SKY IS BLUE---THEY WILL DENY IT FOR THE SAKE OF KEEPING PEOPLE CALM AND UNQUESTIONING. THEY'LL RELEASE AN "OFFICIAL" REPORT DAYS LATER, MEANING THEY'VE CREATED A LIE DESPITE WHAT YOU SAW, THE MEDIA REPORTS THE OFFICIAL LIE AND EVERYONE GO BACK TO SHOPPING.
@NDBNTZ I'm talking about the dudes behind the film. No one will believe a random hillbilly saying stupid shit, which is what they usually do, I'm talking about the people who actually get a following spewing dumbness out of their mouths for publicity/money/fame or in the worst case, because they actually believe what they say is true.
"I'm not calling anyone a liar, I'm calling you a liar."
Wha?
bwc3821 2 days ago
this guy deserves to die!!!! What an ignorant childish asshole!!!
pocomedy 1 week ago
@pocomedy No he doesn't! We need him to make us look smarter!
MegaDefuse 1 day ago
@MegaDefuse your right LOL
pocomedy 1 day ago
God Bermas is a punk. He actually thinks that he has uncovered the greatest hoax in history. He has a permanent career now.
HellRehab 1 week ago
@HellRehab No you fuckin blind idiot! LOLZ! Its obviously you for believing just a obvious lie! NO video of a plane hitting the pentagon! NO visible traces of a plane crash in pennsylvania! Building 7 collapsing in free fall over a small fire! Osama Bin Laden "killed" and thrown in the sea?!?!?! NO pictures, videos, nothing! Stop defending your little brother (US GOV) and wake up from the trance! LMFAO!
DeNzOO7 20 hours ago
"i'm not calling anybody a liar sir, i'm calling you a liar"......the awkward moment when you totally contradict yourself in record time!
micsimus 1 week ago
@micsimus It truly was a record for fastest contradiction of a conspiracy loon...and that's actually quite a huge accomplishment.
xFogxofxWarx 1 week ago
This kid is a loon. Just the overall tone of these two amateurs should be a good enough indicator as to who's winning this debate. Dylan and this Jason character are belligerent, they insult you when you say something they don't agree w/, they laugh all smugly when there's something they don't agree w/, their points are getting thrown right back in their face and they just verbally attack or change the subject.
9/11 wasn't an inside job, you truthers are truly pathetic.
Illumirage 1 week ago
@Illumirage I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees this tactic used by conspiracy idiots.
xFogxofxWarx 1 week ago
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@Xtremedia01 Yall bunch of of inbred uneducatef gullible morons who worship Alex Jones. 911 TRUTH = SYRAWMAN
ctcole77 1 week ago
Yall just a bunch of fuckin dumbasses to believe a full of shit official story by your lying government that screw yall in the ass every fuckin time.. NDAA in yo ass.. go figure
Xtremedia01 3 weeks ago
bet a plane could go through the gap of his teeth.
lilbeaveymac 3 weeks ago
here is a guy who sat on the board of unocal, and not only that but whos brother is the biggest drug lord in the country,is anyone paying any fucking attention? condelze rice SAT ON THE BOARD OF CHEVRON,DICK CHENEY, HALIBURTON/KBR ,WHO HAD THE MOTIVE HERE?
bulletproof2353 3 weeks ago
we can sit and argue semantics of how the buildings fell and science and engineering and physics and if it was thermite of explosives all day, but the other facts speak volumes more about what this is, they wanted the pipeline to get the oil from the caspian sea,that was a huge part of it,though there is no single motive these people like to kill many birds with one stone, there is the opium and the military&civilain industrial complex and contracts, harmid karzi was put in in afghanistan
bulletproof2353 3 weeks ago
@bulletproof2353 You can argue the physics and engineering all you want; the peer edited and reviewed reports in physics and engineering journals; supported by over 300,000 professionals says more about their industry than you ever could. The fact is seismic recordings verify no explosions occurred, meaning no explosives were used. The pipeline from the Caspian Sea is natural gas, not oil; and is owned by the Asian Development Bank. Hamid Karzai is also a former Taliban.
xFogxofxWarx 1 week ago
@xFogxofxWarx there are seismographs that show a second event ,but it dont matter thermite dont explode anyway, and like i said the scientific evidence dont matter even if they were demolished by the planes only it dont prove the mossad and the cia didnt do it, you are naive , the zionist jews have a huge influence , they run the media for the anglo american wasp globalist elite, just like wmd's right, just like iran supposedly going to get a nuke right?
bulletproof2353 1 week ago
@bulletproof2353 just like they didnt kill the gas seperation expert scientis last week with the magnet bomb either right, just like netanyahu is not trying to instigate war with iran,not that i think the US or the military industrial complex and banking interests are not complicit ,im sure they know wht israel is doing or is doing their behals as well as their own ,just like cnn lost the feed when interviewign the soldier ron paul supporter the second after he mentions israel right
bulletproof2353 1 week ago
@bulletproof2353 as he is being interviewed by zionist jew dana bash on the zionist jew hosted situation room on cnn,like the AEI(zionist neocon think tank) sponsored debate on cnn where only zionist jews & neocons were the ones asking the questions all to do with attacking iran over a nuke program they dont even have,not that it would matter, they dont care about that,its about regime change,defence contracts and oil,they will lie about wmd and kill 1 million iraqis but not 3k americans right
bulletproof2353 1 week ago
@bulletproof2353
Wow, that's a lot of Jew hatred. The second someone drops the word 'zionist', I immediately tune out. You lose all credibility when you drop that one, anti-semite.
"DA JOOOOOOOOOS!"
Illumirage 1 week ago
@Illumirage i dont hate jews, and only about 40% are zionist, i think its higher in the US the israeli jews or about 60% or more now are against the likud government they dont like what is going on either,they know netanyahu is crazy and is going to get them all wiped from the map,there are plenty of liberal jews who dont believe in the zionist agenda of israel,and there are plenty of evangelical christian zionists,and i dont israel could have masterminded 9-11 or done it without the help of US
bulletproof2353 1 week ago
@bulletproof2353 involvement, the CIA and who ever else, there is no way they are at the top they are merely complicit and a tool of the NWO elites who are mostly anglo wasps,and once they are done using the jews to put their world government agenda in place they will destroy them too ,besides most of these people are not even real jews their euorpean ashkanazi kazars
bulletproof2353 1 week ago
@xFogxofxWarx and karzi was on the board of unocal and his brother was the biggest opium drug lord in the country, interesting choice of puppet for the US to install, also i guess it was just a coincidence that all the whitehouse cabinet were started on cipro weeks before the anthrax mailing too, israel bombed the liberty to try and get the US in the 6 day war and to attack egypt, you think they were not involved in 9-11 when all the evidence the media reported but didnt put together shows it
bulletproof2353 1 week ago
and oh that bad miraculously missed the plane ,how convenient ,everyone knew this was going to happen because of the pre propaganda in the main stream media, people like bill cooper totally called the whole thing,after the cnn bin laden interview, cnn,the zionist state run media here,who is cia connected ,they let a reporter go in and interview the most wanted man in the world, which he was ofr the cole bombing and the african embassys at the time,damn people are stupid,
bulletproof2353 3 weeks ago
i have heard the police recording of the dispatch reports of the vans of israelis, and them telling the cop oh you dont need to worry about us we are israeli israel is not your problem you need to worry about palestine they are your problem ,you have to be a fucking moron to believe the official story, why would the hijackers bring checked bags on the flight ,and then fill them with names of all the hijackers korans, and plans of the attacks and buildings?if it was a suicide mission?WAKE UP
bulletproof2353 3 weeks ago
@beradification so what i , i think he discredited himself by saying that, this was clearly a moussad /cia operation, no doubt about it, whether the buildings were blown up or not is irrelevant to proving the government is lying here, 5 vans of israelies, 2 with explosives ,another with a picture of planes blowing up the wtc painted on the side ,all that trace back to the same mossad front moving company ,should be enough that and the odigo texts and silversteins comments alone
bulletproof2353 3 weeks ago
@flamewatercirkus i dont think he meant just the fire fighters ,he meant the other people standing in the the impact zone that could be seen waving, ,but there is no point in arguing the science ,there is way more evidence that proves it was cia/moussad ,you dont have to prove the science to prove it was a flase flag event
bulletproof2353 3 weeks ago
383 people where jason bermas
hiloser12221 3 weeks ago
People let this idiot lead them?
Jesse2K12 1 month ago
even the far left guru noam chomsky says these guys are fools for this conspiracy theory, you can watch chomsky say it on you tube. Little punk kids who call rational people liars isnt ownage its bull shit
beradification 1 month ago
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I found the 'ownage' It's from to popular mechanics guy at 0:34
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gunmunz 1 month ago
What I find funny is that in the debate, Jason starts by saying "all we're saying is that things don't add up and it's up to people to go research it". When confronted with explanations, he immediately calls the opponent a liar.
kly45 1 month ago
233 people don't want to see the rest of this debate. because 233 people remember Jason Bermas getting these questions answered and watching him get proved wrong over and over. Then he debates later with Mark Roberst where he gets owned over and over. He gets owned right after he's done talking its typical truther cutting the whole thing to make some idiot look intelligent lol
Bcm80 1 month ago
372 people are disinfo agents.
robbysis 2 months ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If NORAD was told to “stand down” how do you explain F-15 fighters ordered to intercept the high-jacked planes 6 minutes after WTC 1 was hit?
How can Dick Cheney order NORAD to “stand down” if he was never in charge of NORAD?
If WTC 7 was destroyed via controlled demolition, how do you explain firefighters predicting the building's collapse 7 hours in advance?
ctcole77 1 month ago
You are correct @Northeastbaseball. Also, he is ignoring the most basic fundamentals of science; hot air rises. The hottest part of the flame is the area above it, which is why firefighters don't stand over flames to put them out, they attack from the side and underneath where they are away from the heat.
FlamewaterCirkus 2 months ago
Wow, what a bunch of ignorant, establishment lackeys commenting here. Anyone with half a brain could see the yellow journalists for what they are. I guess cognitive dissonance is too difficult to overcome for most.
ForbiddenStallion 2 months ago
Actually Bermas, people can. If a Firefighter is dressed in full Bunkergear (The gear that firefighters wear), the person can withstand temps of up to 800-100 degrees...so its not to far out of the realm that they couldve been in the impact zone...
DO SOME FACT CHECKING YOU STUPID FUCKING MORON!!!!
Northeastbaseball 2 months ago
Too much aggression from both sides. This is not the way of doing a constructive debate. No matter if people believe on way or other there is no point of fight each other.
Everybody should want only the truth, so the discussions should be friendly and with open mind.
One point is clear, there is a lot of strange things about 9/11. Strange things is not prove of any thing so that is the debates and discussions is all about.
DeInProVisu 2 months ago
Dont take some kids word for it, take the word of educated experts in EVERY related feild, 911 WAS JUST ANOTHER INSIDE JOB.
FIGHT1FOR2CHANGE3 3 months ago
@FIGHT1FOR2CHANGE3
"Dont take some kids word for it"
right? only a truthtard would do that.
"take the word of educated experts in EVERY related feild,"
exactly, which is why the reality-based community knows bermas and the truthtard movement is full of shit, unable to simply admit they are WRONG.
"911 WAS JUST ANOTHER INSIDE JOB."
yep, that's what a dumb truthtard who takes some kid's word for it would say, ignoring educated experts in EVERY related field.
bermas deserves cancer.
unclesamsnephew666 2 months ago
@FIGHT1FOR2CHANGE3 Watch the whole debate and you'll see loose change get there ass handed to them.
arexyouxepicxenough 2 months ago
@arexyouxepicxenough ive watched it 5 times. they only come off as a little childish at points but they definitly won the debate.
FIGHT1FOR2CHANGE3 2 months ago
@FIGHT1FOR2CHANGE3 I think popular mechanics had more evidence to back theres up besides that looks fishy.
arexyouxepicxenough 2 months ago
@arexyouxepicxenough you are right in a way, but popular mechanics has the whole NIST report to quote...plus they have an advantage in exp and credibility..That being said 3 buildings did not fall from 2 plane hits, and over 1600 arcitects and engineers have sacrificed earnings and career advancment to tell the puplic the science proves the NIST report wrong
FIGHT1FOR2CHANGE3 2 months ago
Since when does an ad hominem attack count as "ownage"? All of his points are soundly debunked by the Popular Mechanics guys in the minutes following this clip.
jrdavis1 3 months ago
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Osama bin Laden took responsibility for 9/11, so if you believe these nutcases you are a fucking retard.
nromando 3 months ago
I can't tell which is bigger the gap in his teeth or the gap in his story.
thedreadnaughtx 3 months ago 12
@thedreadnaughtx I almost pissed myself. Nice comment.
LuckyDeviI 3 months ago
When you give up on your own theory, then followers should follow...
SandBandjuggler 3 months ago
A little common sense goes a long way. 3 concrete steel reinforced buildings have collapsed due to fire in human history. All 3 were in NYC. All three were owned by the same man, all three fell the same day, all three fell the same exact way. And in all your reasoning you can explain this away? On the contrary I would say you can rationalize it away. But if the truth is optional then error is justifiable. Believe as you will.
sfcdawabn 3 months ago
@sfcdawabn I wouldn't say that your argument contains any common sense. The two towers did not collapse "due to fire", they were rammed by commercial airplanes which absolutely destroyed about six floors immediately, and then were left to burn uncontrolled for 2 hours while the steel, stripped of its fireproofing, was being heated to a far weaker state and under tons of pressure from the above floors. You are not a revolutionary fighting for the truth, you are an idiot.
jetscm4ev 3 months ago
@jetscm4ev An idiot? really? Well then allow me to retort. When a structure such as a building would fall, it would fall in the path of least resistance. And it did. Straight down. Why? Because the lower floors were being blown out of underneath it. Least resistance "should have been" off to one side or another. If you watch the 1st tower begining to collapse it was going off to one side. But then fell straight down because of the controled det's that were taking place.
sfcdawabn 3 months ago
@jetscm4ev The planes did not destroy six floors completely. They even have a YouTube video of a woman standing in the massive hole the plane created. The buildings burned for 92 minutes and 105 minutes respectively. The Towers were built to withstand several impacts of this nature. Just like a screen dorr and withstand several holes being poked through it. The Towers were built in the same fashion. Then we have the molten steel in the basement of the towers. Where did that come from?
sfcdawabn 3 months ago
@jetscm4ev And as far as being an idiot, your mother never called me an idiot. How is your sister by the way?
sfcdawabn 3 months ago
One more thing. It would seem many here are not famlair with "passion". I see no passion what so ever in the two stuffed suits. What I do see is a front. I see two young men with a fire burning for truth. They have great faith and the other two have nothing but words. Jason kicked their ass and they know it. America...you have no idea how much danger we are in. I pray your eyes will open and you will be able to see truth in what "Loose Change" is telling you.
sfcdawabn 3 months ago
Let it be known, whether you wish us well or ill, we will find the truth. Oh yeah, it will come out on this one. Unlike the Kennedy assasination. So keep up your slander, it only feeds us and gives us more determination to take down those responsible or affiliated. If you are not for us then you are against us. So send more insults. If truth is optional then error is justifiable.
sfcdawabn 3 months ago
What I see in the video clip is a young man putting forth an arguement. What I read below here in the comments is nothing but childish shit talk. He buried those two stuffed suits. Left them speechless. Just like he did to these commenters below. All you have is a vulgar tone. Common sense prevails gentlemen. These two young men have it. Plus they got the balls to speak the truth. Unlike the establishment.You can't see the choke hold the government has on this country then your part of problem
sfcdawabn 3 months ago
@sfcdawabn Nothing wrong with being passionate, however, passion doesn't equal truth. The "stuffed suits" don't have to get all worked up, because they have the facts on their side. And btw, Dylan Avery has recently stated that he was probably wrong on most of his claims from the loose change series.
undernorm 3 months ago
speak up, fuck america, 911 was a inside job if you think it was osama you are a fucking dumb mother fuker
porterviper 3 months ago
lol look at the description loose cahnge vs (nothing) xD
SpirosTheGreek1 4 months ago
these little kids are 5 year old rejects who won't shut up with their winning voices
madhatter534 4 months ago
These 2 little dorks are nothing but f-ing children. It's so funny how they are owned by the real adults in the room.
ghiisga 4 months ago
"i'm not calling anybody a liar, sir, i'm calling you a liar because you are a liar"
Hooray for slander!
Dumb guy is dumb.
bassbole 4 months ago 2
911 truthers are so fucking stupid
mechwurm 4 months ago
@mechwurm facts, you have to hate those. destroyed on every point and still people like you are too stupid to understand why. too funny.
onebadmoto 4 months ago
@mechwurm yep and the government is well smart, especially the people who live by every word they say. use your own mind u fucking cabbage, u lot cant think for yourself. your the type of people who watch the weather report to see if its raining outside
leemassey1 4 months ago
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"i'm not calling anybody a liar, sir, i'm calling you a liar"
FUCKING DUMB ASS GET YOUR TEETH FIXED TOO BTW
th3m8ngtree 4 months ago 16
@th3m8ngtree yeah, because his teeth having a space is more important than people in our own government being involved in killing americans. retard
onebadmoto 4 months ago
@onebadmoto um the thing about his teeth was just an addition.. you can't come off as smart when your sentences don't make any sense, and you're teeth look like spongebobs..
you also can't come off as smart when on top of those two things, you get angry the second someone tries to counter something you say and raise your voice, and get all shaking and slur your words...
RETARD >.>
th3m8ngtree 4 months ago
@onebadmoto
how tight is your tinfoil hat?
HarrisonMilburn 4 months ago
@HarrisonMilburn almost as tight as the condom that broke when you were conceived. you must be conservative. too ignorant to know and too stupid to care.
onebadmoto 3 months ago
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Go back to bed, America. Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. Here. Here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go, America! You are free to do as we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!
kajjagoogoo 4 months ago
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Popular Mechanics is bullshit. They will never tell you the truth.
michaelsterling37 4 months ago
When you're young,you think you know everything,but learn later that you knew not anything.I encounter college aged kids who spout this crap all the time.He's all of a sudden an expert on planes crashing into buildings and engineering and world politics.I bet there is a crackpot college professor at the heart of all these kids thoughts.PS-What the hell is "ownage"?
Mithrindir1 4 months ago
@Mithrindir1 Just because someone is young does not mean they are automatically wrong. Younger people can so research and make conclusions just as well as anybody.
Alacazam777 4 months ago
@Mithrindir1 I don't care what the fuck your bitching about, our government and these skumbags to the left of him don't GIVE A SHIT ABOUT the ppl of this country, or any other country. He's passionate and clearly fed up. How much more shit do we have to take? A revolution is the only way to change things because obviously walking around with signs doesn't do SHIT.
SumNJFella 4 months ago
He just rambled about bullshit? I don't see the ownage
HarrisonMilburn 4 months ago 28
@HarrisonMilburn he needs braces...
th3m8ngtree 4 months ago
@HarrisonMilburn just because you can't understand what they're talking about, don't call it bullshit. there's a reason you never did well in school.
onebadmoto 4 months ago
@onebadmoto
is your tinfoil hat on too tight? Lol Burmas is a joke, if you actually believe this kid you need a wake up call rofl.
HarrisonMilburn 4 months ago
@HarrisonMilburn There were dozens of witnesses who heard explosions, and the dozens of fire fighters, fire chiefs and emergency workers. And not just small explosions, oh no, I'm talking explosions that knock people the fuck off their feet and onto the floor. Yes some people heard a lot of explosions and some heard a few, ok, so I guess that just means they were all just hearing things. They were probably all high or something, now let me shove my head in the sand and my thumb up my ass..
wholl1981 3 months ago
@HarrisonMilburn hes only talking bullshit because you dont understand.
research the blast points and what he's saying.
also the duration of temperatures the official story claims.
@th3m8ngtree
Why would you judge someone on physical appearance and not the message? No wonder your comment is so ignorant. troll.
FnkDctr 2 months ago
Jason Bermas is a complete ignorant fool. He lacks education and it shows.
TELEVISIONARCHIVES 4 months ago
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES agreed
DaHuzyBru 4 months ago
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michaelsterling37 4 months ago
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@TELEVISIONARCHIVES Hey, were you at Flying J's Truckstop yesterday with your mom? Dude, sucking off truckers for pattymelts? Come on.
michaelsterling37 4 months ago
Does he floss his teeth with jumprope?
PowerRizer 4 months ago
JASON BERMAS=TOTAL DOUCHE NIGGER FAGGOT FUCK!
pumphouse00 4 months ago
@pumphouse00
sigh....why does he have to be a nigger?
3StormyKnights 4 months ago
@pumphouse00 agreed
DaHuzyBru 4 months ago
"i'm not caling anybody a liar, i'm calling you a liar!" the schmuck is saying contradictions... "because you are a liar" well great reasoning, that sure is a bullet proof assumption
m82108 4 months ago
TJ sent me here but he seems to think Loose Change lost this debate, I don't see it that way. Anyone agree?
PCFD1928 4 months ago
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megamogx 4 months ago
i wonder how Popular Mechanics explains evidence of thermite in the dust.
armands9186 4 months ago
Why is he so gap-toothed?
ImperiusFJ 4 months ago
@ImperiusFJ So his lying serpent tongue can pass.
Pj0tter 4 months ago
i have never seen such arrogant /ignorant fools !!!
on 9/11 these young men were watching events happen like all of us, then suddenly they became 'experts' on what planes going 500 mph would do to buildings. As if ANYONE had everseen anything like that before, and a plane upside down at full throtle dive into a field!! some folks want to believe it and so they will believe anything. i hate so many parts of the US government but to believe this was an inside job takes a lot of ignoring facts
bluegrassreb1 4 months ago
This guy does nothing to counter my impression that conspiracy people are all a bit unhinged.
It's just all so desperate. Maybe they could come up with real questions to be considered instead of wildly throwing any theory out there that fits their agenda of being anything but official. It's all too zealous to be serious.
ZdPhoenix 4 months ago
'These are lies!' 'Your calling people liars--' 'Im not callling anyone a liar, your a liar!!!' LOL... wow Im convinced Jason. I cant believe people still take these changetards seriously
akaMouse 4 months ago
@tanio12 Exactly it seems like it's a crime whenever you question the Government now a days
Efrain891 4 months ago
Wow, these young kids looked like idiots. The sad part is that they seem to truly believe their own BS. I almost (almost) felt bad for them at times during the interview.
lucious1224 4 months ago
@lucious You mad that your own government killed thousands of your people? Yeah, you're mad
robotfreshpies 4 months ago
@robotfreshpies There's a more likely chance that you were the mastermind behind the attacks. There's probably just as much evidence.
lucious1224 4 months ago
@lucious1224 Dumbest response ever
robotfreshpies 4 months ago
@robotfreshpies Now you know what others think about these idiotic conspiracy theories. So, yes, my new theory is that robotfreshpies was behind the attacks and is trying to frame the US government as part of her coverup. Remember, I don't need evidence... I'm a conspiracy theorist. Where were you on that day? Have you been to Pakistan? If you don't provide proof (because you owe it to me) then you are clearly hiding something and thus guilty.
lucious1224 4 months ago
@lucious1224 But there is proof? Have you even watched the Loose Change video? Or are you one of those Americans who think the USA is the almighty superpower of good throughout the world, and don't listen to anything unless it's on CNN?
robotfreshpies 4 months ago
@robotfreshpies You use the word "Proof" very loosely. Yes, I watched the video, but also read what the experts say. The problem is the experts opinions are based on facts, while the information in the video is not based on fact. Example... They show early news coverage and claim that it must be true. Funny, the early news footage claimed the first plane was a small Cessna, proving it to be unreliable. They dismiss real evidence, which makes them ignorant or stupid. You decide.
lucious1224 4 months ago
all these conspiracy theorist bug me....they are imature, uneducated on their issues, and they are the ones who are truly not being skeptical. grow upyou wierdos!
KTMONEY100 4 months ago
@KTMONEY100 One of the wierdest coincidences about both 9/11 and 7/7 was that in both cases there were terrorist-drills taking place at the same time, where the drills acctually copied the MO and targets of the real attacks!
The statistics for this even happening are so implausible that it would be easier to find 1 certain grain of sand in searching all of the earths deserts.
Both attacks were planned long in advance and perpetrated by inside agents!!!
athcliathrecords 4 months ago
@athcliathrecords Yeah terrorist drills that they do all the time, mimicking really really obvious potential plans of attacks. I mean what evil genius could possibly come up with such a plot as putting a bomb on a subway train?!?? Who would ever think of that?! .... you're a fucking retard
akaMouse 4 months ago
@akaMouse haha '' really odvious plans'' that they had NO defensive against, so by your own approclamation they were ''drills'' that they ''do all the time'' i pressume to be prepared for attack, which they turned out to be completly unprepared for, you are in fact the retard, i own peanuts bigger than your brain u sheep minded gullable drone,,,,
When they make it illegal to breath you will probably hold your breath...... u fucking insect
athcliathrecords 4 months ago
@athcliathrecords I would agree with you that there is no real defense against terrorism, but your argument is that its this insanely unlikely event that they would be drilling against a bomb in a subway which is fucking braindead retarded. If you are gonna bother doing terrorism drills... a subway is a really good place to start. Remember the Japan subway gas attack? its not unusual to target a confined space that has lots of people -- Are you really this fucking stupid ?
akaMouse 4 months ago
@akaMouse listen mate ur making little to no sense at the moment, u said they run these drills all te time thats why u think they co-inside with the events, drills that if done as frequent as you claim would improve defensive against terrorism, defense that you admit didnt and doesnt exist, the senarios in the drills on them dates happened in REAL LIFE in EXACT DETAIL at the same time that the exercises were being conducted, if you thin that is a coincedence your a gullable fool
athcliathrecords 4 months ago
@athcliathrecords OK -- so correct me if I am wrong - your theory is that since they are enacting training drills that look like the attack that eventually happened -- that means that they themselves did the attack? Why the fuck would the plotters publicly enact their plot for everyone to see, right before they did it. The training drill looks like the attack that happened meaning the guys doing the training did the attack is the dumbest non sequitur ive heard in a while. Fuck you, idiot
akaMouse 4 months ago
@athcliathrecords OK -- so correct me if I am wrong - your theory is that since they are enacting training drills that look like the attack that eventually happened -- that means that they themselves did the attack? Why the fuck would the plotters publicly enact their plot for everyone to see, right before they did it. The training drill looks like the attack that happened meaning the guys doing the training did the attack is the dumbest non sequitur ive heard in a while. Fuck you, idiot
akaMouse 4 months ago
@akaMouse were did i insinuate that i thought the people doing the training did the attack are you for real the people who carryed out this are people behind the scenes in control of military operations ect it has nothing to do with a pilot in an f16, if you did any research you would see that the drills effected the response time for defensive action along with creating confusion for the people in a position to act as they didnt know if it was real or not listen to the air traffic tape u sheep
athcliathrecords 4 months ago
@KTMONEY100 ???? sorry whats the problem? uneducated on their issues? .. did you just watch this with your computer off?. do some research.
randomtrader1 4 months ago
@randomtrader1 It just seems to me that all these conspiracy theorists just keep firing out ramdom twisted facts and questions that are aimed to make other conspiracy thorist go "oh my, yup this is proof" when really, i have yet to find a conspiracy theory vidoe, article etc. that actually contains well explained proof of their topics, instead of why this why that, did you know this, kind of shallow arguments. and loosing thier composure shows their immaturity, and lack of professionalism
KTMONEY100 4 months ago
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@randomtrader1 It just seems to me that all these conspiracy theorists just keep firing out ramdom twisted facts and questions that are aimed to make other conspiracy thorist go "oh my, yup this is proof" when really, i have yet to find a conspiracy theory vidoe, article etc. that actually contains well explained proof of their topics, instead of why this why that, did you know this, kind of shallow arguments. and loosing thier composure shows their immaturity, and lack of professionalism
KTMONEY100 4 months ago
Most of the time the "Science Guys" never answered back on Jason they always brought something up about conspiracy theorists those guys in the suits only addressed little with evidence saying that they found tiny plane wreckage, ANYBODY could of put it there
Efrain891 4 months ago
@Efrain891
i know right i am like the time you stop asking questions is the time you are in trouble.
tanio12 4 months ago
Loose change = Juvenilia. And WTC 1, 2 and & look nothing like a controlled detonations. Have you any idea how much work there is in wiring an EMPTY building to implode it? I give up with these children.
animatetime 4 months ago
@animatetime You sound more like a child
EmoverePictures 4 months ago
@EmoverePictures More like a parent, I thought :)
Loose Change in its different versions sounds like high school kids ranting and I think that will feel a bit embarrassing to them when they are older.
There are things that need investigating such as the warnings and bin Laden's previous links with the US and the Bush family, But looking at videos of the day like this is just chasing ghosts.
animatetime 4 months ago
@animatetime I mean I agree in a sense because this video is not PROVING anything with facts....but that still doesn't stray away from the fact that because of Loose Change (which is now televised on many channels on 9/11) the world knows a lot more about 9/11. Everything should be questioned.
EmoverePictures 4 months ago
It speaks for itself
/watch?v=vt29IKoNItA
FreedumbFighter28 4 months ago
There's none so blind as those who will not see. Wake up people. Seriously. And I don't want to offend anybody in here, but there are so many questions that are really obvious and people simply don't want to accept them..What happened with the WTC 7? How could the twin towers fall on its own footprint and at free-fall? Where are the plane wreck, the seats, the wings, the fuselage, the passengers after it hit the Pentagon? Those are just a few questions, where are the answers? Think about it...
02vochomovil 4 months ago
These kids are clueless
ahronzombi 4 months ago
Hahahaha, the conspiracy theorsts ramble the whole time with no credible facts, while the Popular Science guys calmly detail the facts as layed out by experts in the related fields. It's the same argument a person makes when they see a flash in the sky at night and automatically assume it's a UFO with no logical basis for the assumption.
shamayaify 4 months ago
Best part: "I am not calling anyone a liar. I am calling you a liar. Because you are a liar" Brilliant.
kellygiz 4 months ago
@kellygiz Why dont you listen to the tone with which he is saying that. He said " im not calling 'anyone' a liar, I am calling YOU a liar" meaning that he is directing it to the opponent and not a generalised "anyone" group which is what his opponent accused him of doing.
s0bad 4 months ago
@s0bad It still sounds funny.
kellygiz 4 months ago
What disrespect these fuckers show. They need to be locked up.
SineFractal 4 months ago
Liar liar pants on fire,sorry I disavow any knowledge of your logic and proof and I will call you a liar because your proof dose not fit in my reality.
cycohlic 4 months ago
HHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry, heard him speak xD
GenocidalTeacup 4 months ago
911 inside job Conspiracy Theory 9 11 The Pentagon (pt 1-3) w Jesse Ventura
wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=oY1A_DiD1OA
Conspiracy Theory 9 11 The Pentagon (pt 2-3) w Jesse Ventura
wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=YV0uCwDiGk8
Conspiracy Theory 911 The Pentagon (pt 3-3) w Jesse Ventura
wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=DvJYd_dp4Fs
wishtree 4 months ago
please! watch the entire interaction and you'll see how this buffoon is the one that gets owned.
aguada21 4 months ago
im not calling anyone a liar!!! im calling YOU a liar.... okay? makes perfect sense
breener24 4 months ago
god i hate these fucking kids... also, the building that was hit second and fell first was also hit lower, putting more weight above the area of weakness, it should have fallen first, and it did... but I'm probably in the conspiracy!
Craigipedia 4 months ago
@Craigipedia
i agree completely, these kids need to grow up and start doing some better research. They were terribly unprepared and the gentlemen from popular mechanics dismantled their "theories"
spenceruwyo 4 months ago
Look at the anger in that "kids" eyes. Who actually believes a person that argues like that?. Besides, when having a debate, if ANY evidence you give is flawed, your testamony is no longer viable and worthless. So much they say which can be proven wrong they are officially a joke. Take your pick. But ill give you mine. Rolls Royce track and analyse every engine they have in service REAL TIME, 10,000+ engines. Enough said. Its all a joke that I cant believe people gullible enough to fall for.
HawerdSturn 4 months ago
"I'm not calling anybody a liar, sir; I'm calling you a liar -- because you are a liar. LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE, MOTHERFUCKERR!!!" -- Jason Bermas.
Jeezus, Bermas! Settle down mate, keep it civil. Fuckin' hell!
Rarae192 4 months ago
the first video under 9/11 collapse shows molten steel pouring out of the building
Philliesphan1994714 4 months ago
@Philliesphan1994714 Molten Aluminum.
ElxxChupacabra07 4 months ago
(cont'd) Lastly, when the media posted Osama's photo hours later, I shouted "That's BULLSHIT" at the tv screen. I knew THEN the government was lying to me. THE SAME MONTH Osama denied the attacks and said it is against his faith to attack all those women and children. Osama's health was also failing and he was on dialysis. He died YEARS ago. But, Americans are so dumb, lazy, brainwashed and chicken shit to admit they really DON'T WANT to know, because then they'd have to do something!!!
2conscious 4 months ago
(cont'd) Also, there were MULTIPLE witnesses who said there were EXPLOSIONS in the train station AND THE LOBBY and THE ELEVATOR EXPLODED BEFORE THE BUILDINGS TOPPLED. Furthermore, building 7 housed CIA offices. Also, Mayor Guliani (which I always found suspect) knew when to leave the south tower for safety. A corrupt mayor, unpopular with many conscious Caucasian people, African-Americans and spanish-speaking residents....suddenly TIME magazine brands him "Man of the Year"!!? COME ON.
2conscious 4 months ago
If the anonymous posters on here did not watch the entire documentary "Loose Change---Final Cut", you have NO RIGHT to judge Jason and his filmmaking partner. What---you can trust a MORON like George W. Bush and DEVILS like Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, DIck Cheney and Karl Rove----but you JUDGE THESE GUYS simply because they're young!? He's angry? HELL YEAH. But, tell me this----an ex-CIA agent who's been working in gov't for over 20 years was in the doc, as well as firefighters....
2conscious 4 months ago
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
IslamISsick1 4 months ago
@IslamISsick1 And christianity claims that anyone who does not accept the word of god will burn in a fiery pit for eternity....Fear mongering 101...It's also claims in the new testament that it is OK to bring war to those who oppose the word of god...not verbatim, but I can find it if you'd like. The point is...every religion needs to be eradicated. They are a cancer that poisons our children and gives the an excuse not to think critically and question authority....
Deciblaster 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
whos benefitted from 9/11?
9/11 an inside job!!!!
1 reason-
Just take a look at the opium production figures in afghanistan, in 2000 3,276 MT(metric tonnes) were produced and in 2001 185 MT, however if you look in 2007 after the invasion you see that 8,200 MT were produced, that is more than a 100% increase from 2000. These are official UN figures by the way
unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/Afghanistan/Afghan_Opium_Trade_2009_web.pdf
just put the htp and ww in front of that
khanhass 4 months ago
I insulted my oponent!! I are such gud arguer!!
fumado2000 4 months ago
look up this gooogle :
"how to become a demolition expert."
it clearly states : ' put several thousand gallons of jet fuel in the 43rd floor and ignite '
that's it.
did my research.
no stop bitching.
KosKostick 4 months ago
(cont'd) ***correction on my last sentence: they don't want to lose power
2conscious 4 months ago
(CONT'D) FINISH WATCHING YOUR REALITY TV, CGI--3D MOVIES, PLAYING W/ YOUR VIDEO GAMES......BECAUSE TO QUESTION THEM IS TO THINK FOR YOURSELF. THEY'LL QUESTION YOUR EXPERTS AS IF THEY HAVE A MONOPOLY ON "EXPERTS", OR THE "OFFICIAL" REPORT. IF A PLANE IS GOING DOWN AND THE WING IS ON FIRE, THE GOVERNMENT IS LIKE THE PILOT, SENDING HIS PEOPLE (IN THIS SCENARIO, THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT) TO TELL OTHERS HOW CRAZY YOU ARE. WHY? THEY DON'T WANT PANIC, AND THEY DON'T TO LOSE POWER,
2conscious 4 months ago
LISTEN TO ALL YOU SHEEPLE: THE TIME-PROVEN METHOD (21ST CENTURY, OR OTHERWISE---METHOD STAYS THE SAME) OF THE ELITE IS THIS: EVEN IF YOU SAW IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES.....EVEN IF YOU KNOW IT HAPPENED EXACTLY AS YOU EXPERIENCED IT---JUST AS THE SKY IS BLUE---THEY WILL DENY IT FOR THE SAKE OF KEEPING PEOPLE CALM AND UNQUESTIONING. THEY'LL RELEASE AN "OFFICIAL" REPORT DAYS LATER, MEANING THEY'VE CREATED A LIE DESPITE WHAT YOU SAW, THE MEDIA REPORTS THE OFFICIAL LIE AND EVERYONE GO BACK TO SHOPPING.
2conscious 4 months ago
Knocking down fires?
GODS AMONG MEN, THESE PEOPLE.
mysticwolf2314 4 months ago
Debunking911(DOT)com
Primordialfan1 4 months ago
0:42 I wish i knew how do knock down a fire
Cr0gers 4 months ago
shows how absolutely idiotic these little shits are.
jbeTV1 4 months ago
Easy shit, if 9/11 actually was a conspiracy, and instead of being nutcases they actually knew shit, they'd be dead.
cholo11 4 months ago
@cholo11 cant kill thousands and blame it on bad water...
NDBNTZ 4 months ago
@NDBNTZ I'm talking about the dudes behind the film. No one will believe a random hillbilly saying stupid shit, which is what they usually do, I'm talking about the people who actually get a following spewing dumbness out of their mouths for publicity/money/fame or in the worst case, because they actually believe what they say is true.
cholo11 4 months ago
you didnt even show the rest of this clip where that was fielded dumbass
magicaIpineapple 4 months ago
@magicaIpineapple its on youtube already.... just look for it :3
doomday666 4 months ago
@doomday666
ive already seen it
magicaIpineapple 4 months ago
Loose Change more like Loose Screws fucking dumb asses
cprcoolcc 4 months ago 17
@cprcoolcc watch the loose change video (all 2 hours and 45 mins of it) and say that again! go on, i dare you!
TheMoo1231 4 months ago
@cprcoolcc Bitch
MasterSethern 4 months ago
What a dumbass
Wowzatrowza97 4 months ago