Russian scientists and its been duplicated have proven GMO foods cause sterility in 3 generation, the 2nd generation is RETARDED by the way. Look it up, I would not joke about this.
Risks of genetically modified foods consist of the possibility of injuring
human's health through unanticipated allergic reactions,and the potential for creating environmental and economic crises through higher pest resistance
to chemicals and through increasing domination of agriculture by farming
@thisman123 heirloom seeds lots of sights, the problem comes from cross pollination, MONSANTO (The evil bastards they are, having patented LIFE) will sue you and take your crop if the bee's, butterflies or wind contaminated your garden. YUP on and they have made seed reclamation against the law. You know who is behind this? DONALD RUMSFELD AND CLARENCE THOMAS :) Look it up, your head will spin. Oh and add the poison aspartame to that list as well. THANKS FOR THE DEPOPULATION TECH.
@skb0rzn - Oh, I know what YouTube and the dramatic internet sites say.
No 'Terminator Seed' has ever been developed/marketed.
It is true that one can't propegate seed from patented varieties legally, there has been no change in the law regarding non-patented ones (of which there are hundreds of varieties available for every major crop)
Your "Court Rulings" are at least ten years old (and there were less than a dozen)
@CouldNotCareLes I'm not sure where you got your info from by I've seen over a hundred lawsuit references, including lawyer names, judge names, case numbers, etc. Some were about 5 years ago. As of June 2006, Monsanto had instituted an estimated 2,391 to 4,531 “seed piracy matters” against farmers in 19 states. Farmers have paid Monsanto an estimated $85,653,601 to $160,594,230 in settlements of these seed piracy matters. That info was from Monsanto's own website in 2006!
@myndy86 - well, this would be big news in farm country. Hmmm ... no one is talking about it. Should I tell my three neighbors who sell Monsanto seed that? (you do realize that Monsanto seed is sold exclusively through a network of small American Family Farmers, eh?) We farmers are a dumb bunch, eh? Terminator? are you serious? Review the patent litigation since 1995. Terminator is not needed, there is not such thing. (there never has been.) ... outside of the internet, that is. Les
@CouldNotCareLes You said 9 farmers sued. Where did you get that info from when Monsanto states a much higher number? Just going back to a 1998 Farm Industry News article "To date, Monsanto has more than 475 seed piracy cases nationwide". GURT isn't used, but some GM crop varieties have high rates of sterility, maybe you never heard of that amongst farmers, but I'm sure you know honest farmers that don't save seed, so they wouldn't know if it was sterile or not would they?
I kept track as they happened. Nine farmers and three seed cleaners had cases filed in North American courts. Court proceedings are public record in the US and Canada, look it up yourself. I'm thinking you have misquoted (or you have quoted someone who had misquoted) Farm Industry News.
GURT is not Terminator at all. Seeds produced in the GURT methodology will sprout and grow a crop just fine. They won't have the patented trait.
@CouldNotCareLes Monsanto did state that, and I did look up court cases in the public record, I stopped after 38 because I got bored but I know there is more than 9. Here is the link to Farm Industry News, look it up yourself
farmindustrynews"dot"com/seed-piracy-risky-bet.
As for GURT they are supposed to be sterile. I'm guessing you are just growing the plants with low or no cry protein expression which is why they weren't sterile and didn't have the patented trait.
@CouldNotCareLes Even if you were right(which you aren't) that still means over a hundred farmers settled out of court, but they were still sued and Monsanto still collected. Let me know if you have a pacer account, if you do, I will give you a few dozen cases to look up and you can see for yourself it is more than 12 cases that went to court.
@myndy86 - If they were sued, there is a record. If they fessed up and paid the tech fee (which most did) there was no suit. Why should some get for free what most others willingly paid for? If your competition was stealing from a supplier, wouldn't you be concerned? myndy, with respect, I watched this happen as it happened. This concerns my livlihood, I'm very interested in the facts. Count em ... patent infringement cases nine farmers three seed cleaners/dealers Les
@CouldNotCareLes I looked it up, all you need is a pacer account and I will prove to you that you didn't follow the situation as closely as you believe you did. Get a pacer account and I will give you dozens of case numbers to look up and you can see for yourself that it was more than 12 cases and the court cases extend beyond the 1990's.
@CouldNotCareLes You said "If your competition was stealing from a supplier, wouldn't you be concerned?" Planting saved seeds shouldn't be considered stealing. We have been doing that since the origin of farming. We do not have to buy our corn every year from the Native Americans who bred corn to what it is today. People initially purchased corn from those Native Americans and then planted the saved seed. Imagine those Native Americans saying you can't plant saved seed LOL!
@myndy86 - The reason farmers purchase corn seed every year is that field corn is hybrid. Farmers have willingly been purchasing seed corn since hybrids were developed int he 1930s.
There has never been a patent infringement case involving corn.
In soy and canola:
It's not the saving of the seed that is the crime, it is the taking advangtage of the technology.
The damning evidence in the cases was the record of the purchase of Roundup.
@CouldNotCareLes If farmers want to buy seed every year that is their choice(hybrid offspring aren't always sterile and can be planted). Technology? It uses the same bacteria, etc. that you already admitted has existed for thousands of years! Native American corn was developed over many generations and was time consuming to create, etc. all of the same complaints made by Monsanto, etc. could have been made by the Native Americans, it's ridiculous not to allow seed saving.
@myndy86 - said, "(hybrid offspring aren't always sterile and can be planted). "
Hybrid offspring aren't sterile, grain spilled last fall will sprout and grow in the fields planted to soybean next spring. Since it is RR corn, we'll have to spray something else in the RR soy to kill it (Poast does it for a coule bucks per acre.)
It's nothing new ... it's been done before.
You go ahead and plant your feed corn kernels as seed.
@CouldNotCareLes You said "they investigated 144 cases and 12 made it to court." They investigated much more than 144 cases, they filed 144 lawsuits(check the records), the rest of the thousands of cases settled without a lawsuit,"144 lawsuits filed since 1997 in the United States, as of April 2010.""To date, only 9 cases have gone through full trial." (from Monsanto website), 9 went the full trial, but there are court records for over a hundred cases, like I said.
@CouldNotCareLes You said "NO SEED HAS EVER BEEN DEVELOPED OR MARKETED TO PRODUCE STERILE OFFSPRING." Whether they were purposely developed to be sterile or not doesn't matter, the studies suggest that there are some varieties of GM crops that when the crop expresses the the trait they were developed for, they almost always produce sterile offspring.
@CouldNotCareLes From the studies, those varieties of Bt cotton and Bt tobacco that actually expressed cry proteins at the levels they were supposed to(the trait they were developed for) were almost always sterile.
@myndy86 - And just so you know friend, I have personally grown, saved, cleaned, bagged, planted and harvested crops from thousands of bushels of saved seed.
@CouldNotCareLes If you actually read the study you will see that only the crops expressing "normal" levels of cry proteins were the sterile ones. You must have planted the ones that were not expressing cry proteins. By the way you claimed you didn't even grow Monsanto seeds in the past, and the study I posted talked specifically about varieties of Bt cotton and Bt tobacco, do you grow(from saved seed) either of those? I thought you were mostly a corn farmer?
@CouldNotCareLes As for terminator seeds, although the technology has not been put into place in commercial GM crops, studies suggest there are some GM varieties that hae reproductive issues(sterility), "In the present study, based on the genetic transformation of cotton and tobacco, we show that the expression of the Cry1Ac endotoxin has detrimental effects on both the in vitro and in vivo growth and development of transgenic plants." pubget.com/paper/21654089
@CouldNotCareLes You have to click "reply" or at least type "@myndy86" for me to get notice of your comments. You can still ship food directly from you to the customer hundreds of miles away. I will indeed be forced to buy GE products eventually due to contamination. I have already had to eliminate several foods from my diet because organic farmers can not guaranty some of those foods haven't been contaminated. The more GE foods, the more contamination, the more I am forced to consume them!
@myndy86 - I can eh? How much will that cost? How will a customer know about me? I suppose you figure I should advertize my wares to folks hundreds of miles away. How on earth is that going to work?
The contamination you fear is a figment of the internet's imagination. I know GreenPeace tried to start a stir about this in Australia ... see how effective that was?
You've had to eliminate several foods?
Which foods do the organic growers fear are contaminated?
@CouldNotCareLes One farm I buy food from is about 100 miles away from me. I go there a few times a year to make sure their practices are acceptable to me, they ship a lot of food directly and they make a profit. You said "The contamination you fear is a figment of the internet's imagination." This is complete BS! Corn is one of the major problems and GE contamination tests on organic farms I used to buy from have come back positive, at which point they have to take a loss on those crops!
@CouldNotCareLes 100 miles is nothing if you consider how many times your product is shipped before it reaches the supermarket or food being brought in from most other countries. My food is delivered with numerous other products. You obviously don't "follow ag news closely", if just a couple of months ago you said there is no cry in any GE corn kernels, but shut up when I posted study. If you knew about GE contamination testing you would know one of the methods is TO TEST THE KERNELS!
@CouldNotCareLes I never said I drive 100 miles to get food. UPS doesn't just deliver one box 100 miles do they? Neither does my food travel 100 miles by itself. Your food still likely travels farther, considering you didn't include distances from your drop off to Kraft or Kraft to wherever else it goes(packaging, warehouse, etc.) before it reaches the supermarket.
@myndy86 - We are splitting hairs, I'm sure you are a reasonable consumer.
I have a three month growing season.
I am centered between Minneapolis MN, Sioux Falls SD, and Fargo ND. The farmers markets are all over here, prices are low. Most folks I know grow their own in-season vegetables. I'll make no money trying to get into that.
How did you come to know this farmer 100 miles away?
@CouldNotCareLes "How did you come to know this farmer 100 miles away?", by internet search. I was looking for some organic foods that my local organic farms didn't grow and the supermarkets, etc. didn't carry or they came from Chile, etc. It has worked out well, I still generally pay less than the supermarket, even with shipping costs and I can verify their farming practices.
@CouldNotCareLes You said "I said there's no cry in GE corn kernels?". Yes, you did. Along with numerous other false claims. You said "GMO food does not contain pesticide.
@Orlox44 " the information about health problems in people who lived near corn field." It came from a study by
Tjere Traavik done in the Philippines "We have used direct and inhibitory ELISAs (enzyme-linked immuno-sorbent assays) to demonstrate IgA, IgG and IgM antibodies specifically binding to Bt-toxin Cry1Ab in sera from Philippine farmers."
Why can't videos such as this make their sources available to their viewers?
Information (either defending or alerting against the use of genetically modified foods) shouldn't be considered if it isn't scientifically accurate. The least a video with informative purposes should do is to inform their sources and make them available to their public.
@Orlox44 "GM-fed mice of all ages considered, the number of perichromatin granules is higher and the nuclear pore density lower.""we found enlargements in the smooth endoplasmic reticulum in GM-fed mice Sertoli cells." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15718213
"our data suggest that GM soybean intake can influence hepatocyte nuclear features in young and adult mice" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12441651
@Orlox44 "D. magna fed GM-maize showed a significantly reduced fitness performance: The mortality was higher, a lower proportion of females reached sexual maturation, and the overall egg production was lower compared to D. magna fed UM isogenic maize.""The combination of a reduced fitness performance combined with earlier onset of reproduction of D. magna fed Bt-maize indicates a toxic effect rather than a lower nutritional value of the GM-maize." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18347840
@Orlox44 "We observed that after the consumption of MON863""Chemistry measurements reveal signs of hepatorenal toxicity""Triglycerides increased by 24-40% in females (either at week 14, dose 11% or at week 5, dose 33%, respectively); urine phosphorus and sodium excretions diminished in males by 31-35% (week 14, dose 33%)""with the present data it cannot be concluded that GM corn MON863 is a safe product." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17356802
@Orlox44 "Animal toxicity studies with certain GM foods have shown that they may toxically affect several organs and systems.""The results of most studies with GM foods indicate that they may cause some common toxic effects such as hepatic, pancreatic, renal, or reproductive effects and may alter the hematological, biochemical, and immunologic parameters." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18989835
@Orlox44 "Several convergent data appear to indicate liver and kidney problems as end points of GMO diet effects in the above-mentioned experiments. This was confirmed by our meta-analysis of all the in vivo studies published, which revealed that the kidneys were particularly affected, concentrating 43.5% of all disrupted parameters in males, whereas the liver was more specifically disrupted in females (30.8% of all disrupted parameters)." enveurope"dot"com/content/23/1 /10
@Orlox44 "Several proteins belonging to hepatocyte metabolism, stress response, calcium signalling and mitochondria were differentially expressed in GM-fed mice, indicating a more marked expression of senescence markers in comparison to controls. Moreover, hepatocytes of GM-fed mice showed mitochondrial and nuclear modifications indicative of reduced metabolic rate. This study demonstrates that GM soybean intake can influence some liver features" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18648843
@Orlox44 "This indicates that GM soy protein intake affected pancreas function, evidenced by the early acute PAP mRNA increased levels and pancreas cellular changes followed by recuperation of acinar cells after 30 days." onlinelibrary.wiley"dot"com/doi/10.1002/jat.1319/abstract
"The GM-fed D. magna had lower survival (lx) than the UM-fed D. magna throughout the experiment" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2811247/
@Orlox44 "3 GMOs new side effects linked with GM maize consumption, which were sex- and often dose-dependent. Effects were mostly associated with the kidney and liver, the dietary detoxifying organs, although different between the 3 GMOs. Other effects were also noticed in the heart, adrenal glands, spleen and haematopoietic system. We conclude that these data highlight signs of hepatorenal toxicity, possibly due to the new pesticides specific to each GM corn." biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm
@wei495 Studies I posted suggest there are potential adverse health affects. I can post more studies as well including economic losses from GE crops, environmental impact, etc. GE generally poses more risks than conventional breeding, so if the problem can be solved with conventional breeding, organic farming, etc. then GE isn't worth the additional risk. In most cases conventional breeding, native plants, organic farming, etc. has already accomplished what GE has accomplished with less risk.
@CouldNotCareLes So, your argument is that I(the customer) should have no say in the products I purchase? LMAO! GE foods are being forced on me against my will, the same way attempts to force GE crops on countries, etc. are happening in various places throughout the world. I buy most of my food directly from farms and if they don't grow it how I want they will lose me as a customer. Most of the rest of my food I grow myself. You should listen to your customers or you will lose them.
Yes, Biased is acceptable because we're fighting against a unscrupulous, deceitful, soulless, extremely greedy, pernicious corporations such as Monsanto. I want my food to be GMO-Free, preferably organic. So, Don't F**** with my natural food!!
several studies have been done that show many health problems in the second and especially the third generation of offspring that eat GMO foods. There were lots of deformities in the second generation and in the third generation have basically become sterile.
@AndyG792 There will be rallies throughout the U.S. on 10/16/11 to get mandatory labeling of all products containing genetically engineered/modified organisms.
Go to "Millions Against Monsanto World Food Day 2011" on facebook, for more information.
Go to the "organicconsumers" website to sign petitions.
Type "Millions Against Monsanto Campaign 2011" in the youtube search
GMO's are creating new diseases we will not be able to treat. There are problems already with GMO foods like virus in the DNA put in a food goes into your veggie, then it actually goes directly into the body. Also they are using Ecoli that is resistant to every antibiotic but one, but trouble is virus' adapt therefore they can become resistant to that antibiotic and we have problems. Also it can mutate out of cell, nature is smart. It is very dangerous, we are playing with nature.!!!
@armeg35 Selective or cross breeding etc. is not the same as genetic modification. Here is the USDA(and just about everyone else`s) definition of genetic engineering "under guidelines issued by USDA`s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, genetic engineering is defined as the genetic modification of organisms by recombinant DNA techniques (7CFR340: 340.1).""Recombinant DNA techniques (DNA formed by combining segments of DNA from different organisms)"
@armeg Selective or cross breeding etc. are not the same as genetic modification. Here is the USDA(and just about everone else`s) definition of genetic engineering "under guidelines issued by USDA`s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, genetic engineering is defined as the genetic modification of organisms by recombinant DNA techniques (7CFR340: 340.1).""Recombinant DNA techniques (DNA formed by combining segments of DNA from different organisms)"
@zabadoo28 You will mostly avoid GMOs by eating organic fruits and vegetables. There is some level of contamination of organic fruits and vegetables from GM crops, but organic is still your best bet. Choosing wild caught fish and organic meat will also help you avoid GMOs. Animals used for Non-Organic meat are often fed GMO feed and GM DNA can remain in their muscle tissue. Farm raised fish are often fed GMO feed as well, so organic meat and wild caught fish are the best bet.
@myndy86 I hope you understand that your so called organic food has also been genetically modified throughout the ages of human civilization. Just pointing that out.
@urzula01 Uh, I don't see a problem with that. Plants already do this but it takes much longer amounts of times. All scientists are doing here is speeding up the process by doing controlled transfers of good traits to other plants.
@armeg35 No, plants do not do this on their own. We are asking for trouble and I can see a time coming that normal food will be outlawed and we will be forced to eat GMO. It could be used for population control, etc.
@AndyG792 That's quite the tin foil hat theory there. You do know there are much easier methods of population control than GMO foods, right? Normal food won't be outlawed because people can easily grow it themselves, and corporations will try to make a profit on the suddenly banned food.
Will I avoid Genetically Modified foods by buying organically grown vegetables, fruits only? What about meat and fish? Please respond, I need to know as I already suffer with severe digestive problems. Thanks for your help!
@zabadoo28 it is against the to give a prescription without being a doctor so I will only suggest this as a person that is not prescribing anything. " Vegetables and Fruit that are high in fiber ( self grown will be better) will help with digestive problems. Organic colostrum from cow and goat helps a lot. Organic pancakes instead of IHOP or Denny's.
@jsharbro Conventional breeding that has been going on for thousands of years is not the same as genetic modification. Here is the USDA definition of genetic engineering. "under guidelines issued by USDA`s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, genetic engineering is defined as genetic modification of organisms by recombinant DNA techniques (7CFR340: 340.1).""Recombinant DNA techniques(DNA formed by combining segments of DNA from different organisms)"
@jsharbro UN/World Bank report International Assessment of Agriculture Science Technology Development by 400 scientists concluded biotechnology has very little potential to alleviate hunger or poverty. If you are concerned about feeding people in poor countries you should support organic and not GM.
Genetically modified foods are going to solve the worlds hunger problems. If you think that genetic engineering is bad, you are a fool. We have been genetically modifying food for thousands of years. We are just better at it now.
The Millions Against Monsanto campaign is taking action across the country. Protests will continue, leading up World Food Day, which will be the largest day of action in US history on October 16th, 2011.
The fact that mainly all food currently available on the market has little to no nutrients whatsoever, and that contributes to the epidemic of PREVENTABLE DISEASES that we are facing makes me mad. It's incredible the little knowledge of people regarding food while we face cancer, heart disease, you name it and it's due to lack of nutrients and many other factors involved as well. And yet we see this trend of "looking good for the summer" while most of us are dying
@mikeelman i completely agree. Our food supply has gone to shit and anything is barely organic anymore. Search up Mon Santo and you'll see how organizations like that are ruining our food and sickening us just to make a profit.
@kokoin I don't get my yearly flu shot and I have never had the flu unintentionally. So yes I am against vaccinations because not once have they helped me lol, in fact the first time I ever got a flu shot I got sick with the flu that I was suppose to be immune to... Thanks to that lovely vaccination lol. Science sometimes proves itself to be so smart that its left looking stupid in the end.
@kokoin Ahahahaha! I do not believe in a single god, nor do I believe in religion. However, I do respect the morals that some religions express such as buddhism or sikhism( I dislike relgions that push themselves onto others such as christianity lol). I do respect medical advancements considering they helped me in my time of enduring a tumor in my left teste, but after that it healed up and dissapeared all together on its own... I was shocked, in a good way! Maybe my spirits will was strong :P.
@Missioneer God created you with an immune system that is awesome. i had an L5 prostate cancer that had masticated to my bones and fatty tissue. I am trying to eat according to Genesis 1:29 because I believe that God created food to keep us healthy. I juice carrots and other vegetables as well as eat raw veggies in salads and try to eat 5 fruit / day. the cancer has left my bones and fatty tissue an has shrunk in the prostate by about 50 to 70% in the past 3 years. Praise God.
@AndyG792 God did not magically create you with a strong immune system. That took millions of years of human evolution to finally achieve. Genesis 1:29 says nothing about what you should eat, but simply tells christians that they have access to the world's fruits and vegetables. The diet you are talking about is considered healthy in general, and just so you know if you had really had prostate cancer that diet you are talking about would not have solved the problem.
@grendelee The USDA(and just about everyone else`s) definition of genetic modification is that it uses recombinant dna techniques. That means cross breeding, selective breeding etc. is not genetic modification. So, genetic modification is not thousands of years old.
people ask why there is an e.coli out breake in germany.perhaps this gmo foods full of bacteria and viruses it has nothing to do with the grower or the spain.it has to do with GMO FOODS.
@lied2bygov Ehm... The source of the E. Coli outbreak in Germany was an ORGANIC farm that produced sprouted foods. The farm has been shut down and the outbreak stopped.
@kokoin ZAMBIA DIDN`T LET PEOPLE STARVE! World Food Programme replaced the GM food with Non-GM food donated by the European Union. ACCEPTING GM FOOD WOULD HAVE CRUSHED THE ZAMBIAN ECONOMY! 53% of Zambian exports were to the EU with strict guidelines on GM.
You don't look like you are starving. You must celebrate the fact that you are able to eat organic but most people just cant afford it. It is so self-centered to lie about food that saved more than a billion lifes. Get a life and stop this organic propaganda.
I was born in place where many people could barely afford any food - you should go and live there for some time.
@kokoin i was born in a place where there was barely any food. and even i can see that genetic modified organisms is NOT the answer. the truth is the food isn't been distibuted properly. that's why people (like my family) were starving.
Talking about distribution - in 2002 Friends of the earth published that GM food given to starving Zambia was dangerous (even though no evidence to support that statement existed). Zambian Gvt. destroyed the food. They left 2.9 million people starving.
@kokoin It's altering the natural structures of animals and plants. This could have a devastating effect on the eco system. And even if GMO was increased, it's obvious its purpose is to feed the more fortunate people while the less fortunate will continue to starve. Also, a neighboruing village to one of my relatives in Tsumeb (in South Africa) actually burnt two small fields because the GM crops were “making them sick”. [continued]...
@6KiiDZ .. Although they’re tempted to grow conservatively, they actually think that land could be cursed now (obviosuly it's not but it's not). And how do you know GMO won’t have any effect in the long term?
@6KiiDZ what exactly is natural? nature constantly alters genetics it's called evolution. Talking about devastating consequences I would expect some sort of evidence...
Your neighbors burned their crops, doesn't sound to me like they were starving... I doubt poor people in Haiti who eat dirt would be that picky...
@kokoin "natures all the animals, plants and other things in the world that are not made by people, and all the events and processes that are not caused by people"- dictionary definition :)
dude, you need to look into the cons aswell as your pros for GMOs. I can't be bothered to type them down just for you.
And trusssst me, these people aren't picky. They are very poor. My life started beside them at one point; with plentiful hunger.
@kokoin OMG MUST YOU BE SPOON FED INFORMATION!!!!! CROSS POLLINATION AND CONTAMINATION IS A PROBLEM, PESTS AND INSECTS BECOMING RESISTANT TO GM GENES, THERE ARE MASSIVE ECONOMIC IMPACTS WHICH I CAN'T TO BOTHERED TO GO INTO DETAIL WITH. BECUASE OF GMO, THE USE OF PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES WILL INCREASE.
@kokoin i just realised i've answered almost all of your questions, you still have given me an answer to mine: how do you know GMo won't have a negative effect on us in the future????
@kokoin GM crops have harmed people economically. "Bayer AG has agreed to settle a lawsuit brought by a group of Texas rice growers over claims the company's experimental biotech rice contaminated the U.S. supply four years ago and decimated exports." "The company still faces thousands of claims," "In February, a jury ordered Bayer to pay $1.5 million in damages to three farmers for losses due to contamination by Bayer's genetically modified rice."
@kokoin There have been human death using GM during gene therapy. In 1999, gene therapy suffered a major setback with the death of 18-year-old Jesse Gelsinger. Jesse was participating in a gene therapy trial for ornithine transcarboxylase deficiency (OTCD). He died from multiple organ failures 4 days after starting the treatment. His death is believed to have been triggered by a severe immune response to the adenovirus carrier.
@kokoin Another human death using GM during gene therapy "A 36-year-old woman with rheumatoid arthritis died in July, while participating in a gene-therapy clinical trial. Some experts say she shouldn't have received such an unpredictable, potentially dangerous treatment in the first place." wired"dot"com/medtech/genetics/news/2007/08/gene_therapy
As a student studying plant genetics and breeding I feel this video is absolutely weak on facts and heavy on ideology. The presenters have no idea what they are talking about. They cant even spell. Let alone cite their information. TERRIBLE
This video is such a joke, talk about scare tactics. It would be nice if they could spell Bacillus thuringiensis correctly. I'd love to read this study about the phillipinos who suffered intestinal problems because I don't trust these people to be issuing out information like that; and even if these crops are 'releasing Bt toxin' the people nearby are probably receiving a great deal less than they were when fields were sprayed with Bt toxin which by the way is considered an organic pesticide.
@stydgj2 The study was done by Terje Traavik, scientific director of the Norwegian Institute of Gene Ecology. Blood tests showed the villagers had developed antibodies to the maize's inbuilt pesticide. His studies suggest that a virus promoter was found intact in human cells. His team found that genetically engineered viruses used in the GM process recombined with natural viruses to create new hybrid viruses with unpredictable characteristics. This suggests they could cause new diseases.
@myndy86 just had a bit of a read, couldn't find the one about the philipinos unfortunately but I did find one by Tjere Traavik - The 35S CaMV plant virus promoter is active in human enterocyte-like cells. 2006. Eur Food Res Technol.- seems like an interesting bit of research, but a couple of things strike me here. In the paper they transfect cells using a preparation of their construct along with some stuff called 'lipofectamine'- which I breifly googled and......
@myndy86 ... it is marketed as being particularly efficient at getting DNA in to living cells. They also remarked (and as can be seen form their data) that the 35s promoter is much less powerful than the human virus promoter control. I can't help thinking that in a real life situation, that level of uptake of DNA by cells just wouldn't occur and with all the other genetic material we eat all the time it seems insignificant. Bearing in mind that the codon bias of the Bt gene was changed...
@myndy86 for maize anyway (and an animal GFP used for the experiment) I just can't help but remain sceptical of this idea. I'd be interested to find out what the level of expression the promoters for other plant peptides (possibly toxic ones) confer in mammalian cells. I don't suppose you could refer me to the study about the phillipinos?
@stydgj2 Those were results from 3 studies by Tjere Traavik. The filipino study "We have used direct and inhibitory ELISAs (enzyme-linked immuno-sorbent assays) to demonstrate IgA, IgG and IgM antibodies specifically binding to Bt-toxin Cry1Ab in sera from Philippine farmers." The genok webite has references to the other studies. The i-sis website article "Scientists Discover New Route for GM-gene 'Escape'" has other references to studies suggesting DNA from GMOs has gotten into living cells.
@21stgear Cross and selective breeding are not the same as genetic modification. Genenetic modification DOES put animal genes in plants. Even HUMAN GENES HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLANTS. Look up"Human Genes In RIce:Opening Up Pandoras Box"
Go to a GMO rally throughout the U.S. on 3/26/11 for more info.
Fun fact tomatoes were originally poisonous berries. but through the act of genetic modification they are the fruit we know today. Also there is no Animal DNA in vegetables
@21stgear Fun fact the first organism ever genetically modified was in 1973(people were eating tomatoes long before 1973). There are genes from the bacterium Bacillus thuringiensis in several genetically modified plants. Bacillus thuringiensis produces an insecticide.
@myndy86 Cross breading was used to boost the size of Tomatoes. you are technically modifying something by cross breading which was used long before 1973
Smart and cute! Speak the Truth, you amazing and influancial! The Network needs to build place for the people to go to and grow and live together, like permacultutred villages.
Todos podemos denunciar a estos Psicópatas creadores de TRANSGENICOS ante la Corte Internacional Penal, hay grupos que así lo hacen sobre todo los países perjudicados, sea ud. parte de este movimiento. ¡Desde sus países denuncien ahora a los Psicópatas Norteamericanos! ¡Ellos solo son 5 microbios! Todos unidos 6 mil millones de DENUNCIAS PENALES los venceremos!
Listen really there should have been alot more testing done before any gmo's were introduced on the market. Did you know that there is enough food to feed the planet it is just not distributed equally. As for the science behind wanting to help ensure food for the food chain no however there is something wrong with science when we become the gunea pigs in the experiment. There are greater issues for example the environment implications for starters what can grow in the fields after.
Although Yes there really are developing countries under siege as suggested and is it not the social responsibility of those who have some influence become informed....and set a way by an example and not supplementing the economies of these giants who can crush countries easily... BT Cotton giant disaster and others like it have proved it to be the seed of death.
Bottom line there is no testing and no labeling on top of it here in a combination of the proven detriment it has on the environment.
@Kryssyskingdom wrote, "you went from what to selling pizza?"
I never sold pizza
I worked as an Information Systems Analyst for a VERY large frozen food company.
I went from a dumbass farmer, to a programmer, to an IT project manager, to a Business Systems Analyst for a company who has the leading frozen pizza brand in the United States of America (all while continuing farming my family's homesteads.)
They tried to market their crap in Europe and failed.
LES get your fact straight before you say anything there is for starters of countries that have banned or restricted GMO's.... you went from what to selling pizza...From this list would you like to tell me please hmmm how many here are developing countries??????? Would you like to tell me who could not read what you wrote ...please stay on topic some countries like France are Vigilant where others like Brazil are some what slowly falling way due to reasons such as cross contamination....
@Kryssyskingdom in zambia, greenpeace told the president that, the food that the u.s. which was GMO, was poison, and he refused them. and what hpapened after that? their people starved.
As for your frozen food company could be cause the product was crap it was frozen.... and from where HERE.... which really of all the things to try to market in Europe ....... AMERICAN FROZEN PIZZA.... that was doomed on the day of planning and you do have to take Marketing to see that.
Uh LES. considering we are a corn fed nation did not miss a thing what you seem to want people to think is they can do nothing and this is how it is.
That everyone eats crap & in regards to the countries that are more whole food orientated however they can still buy crap there too.
Stop trying to have people believe that is cause they only eat whole foods bottom line is they became aware of GMO's produce & grain & said NO.... Hence people not being powerless here we are just uninformed
It is unfortunate if anyone would listen 2@CouldNotCareLes but has made some points which people need to aware of yes raw foods..
not all but they are on the market but not the countries that banned ALL GMO's not just some and kept some for the mass produced shelf products. This is way far reaching but all Les has proven here is people if you want to know more get involved and become informed.
LES is an example of why you should...And LES as for grouping everyone as ignorant is ignorance itself
Any tests done by those big corps making GE foods like MONSANTO, SYRGENTA, DUPONT AND BAYER.. They have concealed these results by making them confidential from you and even the government.this way more than a "fish tomato" Corn, Soy, etc. you are already ingesting these foods without your consent .... They do not have to label GE foods in North America..... In Europe they do and no one will buy them so they are not producing it there... There countries that have banned GMO's completely
@Kryssysking DO SOMETHING THEN!spread organic heirloom food seed far and wide, its called"johnny appleseed economics"or"gorrila gardens",spread more organic food. wake up everyone,do your part!?IF YOU ARE angry,get seed and make a organic revolution your way.SPREAD THE HEIRLOOM SEED EVERYWHERE TELL OTHERS! INCREASE THE FOOD SUPPLY RIGHT NOW WHILE WE GOT TIME!! GROW VERTICAL GARDENS IF YOU DONT HAVE THE SPACE! START NOW
Not sure where you get the anger part here has to be it is just one of those things that well the facts should be out there.... some facts are there has been no testing by these companies who make GE foods which you as well as the rest of us are consuming GE foods without consent... however if we want to discuss Organic farming well is under risk since GE foods have proven to be detrimental to those crops by cross contamination GE is proven to be invasive by cross pollination .
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AirborneWaffleWIP 1 week ago
Genetically modified foods is pure trash. It just means more profits for the greedy scumbags.
mrql123 1 month ago
did anyone hear that ladys accent? the one that said ( i dont really know if its good or bad)
hahahaha she said bad like ( beyad) hahahhahahha
nerdymom2 1 month ago
Russian scientists and its been duplicated have proven GMO foods cause sterility in 3 generation, the 2nd generation is RETARDED by the way. Look it up, I would not joke about this.
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blueskyhighblue 2 months ago
girl at 2:12, SOOOOOOOOOO ignorant
steflondon88 2 months ago
@steflondon88 lol y?
vcanucks22 2 months ago
@vcanucks22 she thinks they are rare foods
steflondon88 2 months ago
If you cant buy food or seeds from stores with out them being GM then what should we do?
thisman123 2 months ago
@thisman123 heirloom seeds lots of sights, the problem comes from cross pollination, MONSANTO (The evil bastards they are, having patented LIFE) will sue you and take your crop if the bee's, butterflies or wind contaminated your garden. YUP on and they have made seed reclamation against the law. You know who is behind this? DONALD RUMSFELD AND CLARENCE THOMAS :) Look it up, your head will spin. Oh and add the poison aspartame to that list as well. THANKS FOR THE DEPOPULATION TECH.
skb0rzn 1 month ago
@skb0rzn wow thats deep ima definatley look that up.
thisman123 1 month ago
@skb0rzn - Bullshit.
That has never happened, doesn't happen today, and will never happen.
"Seed reclamation" is not against the law.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 1 month ago
@CouldNotCareLes Check into Terminator Seeds and Seed Reclamation Fines and Court Rulings. :)
skb0rzn 1 month ago
@skb0rzn - Oh, I know what YouTube and the dramatic internet sites say.
No 'Terminator Seed' has ever been developed/marketed.
It is true that one can't propegate seed from patented varieties legally, there has been no change in the law regarding non-patented ones (of which there are hundreds of varieties available for every major crop)
Your "Court Rulings" are at least ten years old (and there were less than a dozen)
This is a non-issue in farm country.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 1 month ago
@CouldNotCareLes I'm not sure where you got your info from by I've seen over a hundred lawsuit references, including lawyer names, judge names, case numbers, etc. Some were about 5 years ago. As of June 2006, Monsanto had instituted an estimated 2,391 to 4,531 “seed piracy matters” against farmers in 19 states. Farmers have paid Monsanto an estimated $85,653,601 to $160,594,230 in settlements of these seed piracy matters. That info was from Monsanto's own website in 2006!
myndy86 3 weeks ago
CouldNotCareLes 3 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes You said 9 farmers sued. Where did you get that info from when Monsanto states a much higher number? Just going back to a 1998 Farm Industry News article "To date, Monsanto has more than 475 seed piracy cases nationwide". GURT isn't used, but some GM crop varieties have high rates of sterility, maybe you never heard of that amongst farmers, but I'm sure you know honest farmers that don't save seed, so they wouldn't know if it was sterile or not would they?
myndy86 2 weeks ago
@myndy86 - Monsanto doesn't state that.
I kept track as they happened. Nine farmers and three seed cleaners had cases filed in North American courts. Court proceedings are public record in the US and Canada, look it up yourself. I'm thinking you have misquoted (or you have quoted someone who had misquoted) Farm Industry News.
GURT is not Terminator at all. Seeds produced in the GURT methodology will sprout and grow a crop just fine. They won't have the patented trait.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes Monsanto did state that, and I did look up court cases in the public record, I stopped after 38 because I got bored but I know there is more than 9. Here is the link to Farm Industry News, look it up yourself
farmindustrynews"dot"com/seed-piracy-risky-bet.
As for GURT they are supposed to be sterile. I'm guessing you are just growing the plants with low or no cry protein expression which is why they weren't sterile and didn't have the patented trait.
myndy86 2 weeks ago
@myndy86 - wrong ... they investigated 144 cases and 12 made it to court.
nine farmers and three seed cleaners.
Try as you may, you can't change history friend.
No, they are not suppose to be sterile. GURT is a means of inserting a trait so that it cannot be passed on to progeny.
NO SEED HAS EVER BEEN DEVELOPED OR MARKETED TO PRODUCE STERILE OFFSPRING.
(the modification involving cry protein is only one of dozens in production today.)
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes Even if you were right(which you aren't) that still means over a hundred farmers settled out of court, but they were still sued and Monsanto still collected. Let me know if you have a pacer account, if you do, I will give you a few dozen cases to look up and you can see for yourself it is more than 12 cases that went to court.
myndy86 2 weeks ago
CouldNotCareLes 2 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes I looked it up, all you need is a pacer account and I will prove to you that you didn't follow the situation as closely as you believe you did. Get a pacer account and I will give you dozens of case numbers to look up and you can see for yourself that it was more than 12 cases and the court cases extend beyond the 1990's.
myndy86 2 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes You said "If your competition was stealing from a supplier, wouldn't you be concerned?" Planting saved seeds shouldn't be considered stealing. We have been doing that since the origin of farming. We do not have to buy our corn every year from the Native Americans who bred corn to what it is today. People initially purchased corn from those Native Americans and then planted the saved seed. Imagine those Native Americans saying you can't plant saved seed LOL!
myndy86 2 weeks ago
@myndy86 - The reason farmers purchase corn seed every year is that field corn is hybrid. Farmers have willingly been purchasing seed corn since hybrids were developed int he 1930s.
There has never been a patent infringement case involving corn.
In soy and canola:
It's not the saving of the seed that is the crime, it is the taking advangtage of the technology.
The damning evidence in the cases was the record of the purchase of Roundup.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes If farmers want to buy seed every year that is their choice(hybrid offspring aren't always sterile and can be planted). Technology? It uses the same bacteria, etc. that you already admitted has existed for thousands of years! Native American corn was developed over many generations and was time consuming to create, etc. all of the same complaints made by Monsanto, etc. could have been made by the Native Americans, it's ridiculous not to allow seed saving.
myndy86 2 weeks ago
@myndy86 - said, "(hybrid offspring aren't always sterile and can be planted). "
Hybrid offspring aren't sterile, grain spilled last fall will sprout and grow in the fields planted to soybean next spring. Since it is RR corn, we'll have to spray something else in the RR soy to kill it (Poast does it for a coule bucks per acre.)
It's nothing new ... it's been done before.
You go ahead and plant your feed corn kernels as seed.
I need to make money or I'll go out of business.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes You said "they investigated 144 cases and 12 made it to court." They investigated much more than 144 cases, they filed 144 lawsuits(check the records), the rest of the thousands of cases settled without a lawsuit,"144 lawsuits filed since 1997 in the United States, as of April 2010.""To date, only 9 cases have gone through full trial." (from Monsanto website), 9 went the full trial, but there are court records for over a hundred cases, like I said.
myndy86 2 weeks ago
@myndy86 - there you go ... you are correct with the 144 .. I completely agree.
Thank you for clarifying that for the readers of this thread.
Sincerely
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes You said "NO SEED HAS EVER BEEN DEVELOPED OR MARKETED TO PRODUCE STERILE OFFSPRING." Whether they were purposely developed to be sterile or not doesn't matter, the studies suggest that there are some varieties of GM crops that when the crop expresses the the trait they were developed for, they almost always produce sterile offspring.
myndy86 2 weeks ago
@myndy86 - Gosh ... non commercial crops I guess.
All I know about is corn, soy, canola, cotton, beets, alfalfa ... commercial ag crops.
What crop "almost always produce sterile offspring" ? ? ?
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes From the studies, those varieties of Bt cotton and Bt tobacco that actually expressed cry proteins at the levels they were supposed to(the trait they were developed for) were almost always sterile.
myndy86 2 weeks ago
@myndy86 - K ... thx.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 weeks ago
@myndy86 - And just so you know friend, I have personally grown, saved, cleaned, bagged, planted and harvested crops from thousands of bushels of saved seed.
I know what I'm talking about.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes If you actually read the study you will see that only the crops expressing "normal" levels of cry proteins were the sterile ones. You must have planted the ones that were not expressing cry proteins. By the way you claimed you didn't even grow Monsanto seeds in the past, and the study I posted talked specifically about varieties of Bt cotton and Bt tobacco, do you grow(from saved seed) either of those? I thought you were mostly a corn farmer?
myndy86 2 weeks ago
@CouldNotCareLes As for terminator seeds, although the technology has not been put into place in commercial GM crops, studies suggest there are some GM varieties that hae reproductive issues(sterility), "In the present study, based on the genetic transformation of cotton and tobacco, we show that the expression of the Cry1Ac endotoxin has detrimental effects on both the in vitro and in vivo growth and development of transgenic plants." pubget.com/paper/21654089
myndy86 3 weeks ago
@thisman123 grow ya own!!
trz541 1 month ago
GM is dangerious ! a disaster waiting to happen ! F_CK them !
ironjohnlad 2 months ago
My customers live hundreds of miles from my farm. There is no way for them to purchase directly from me.
You don't have to purchase food products from anyone, no one will force you to.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 months ago
@CouldNotCareLes You have to click "reply" or at least type "@myndy86" for me to get notice of your comments. You can still ship food directly from you to the customer hundreds of miles away. I will indeed be forced to buy GE products eventually due to contamination. I have already had to eliminate several foods from my diet because organic farmers can not guaranty some of those foods haven't been contaminated. The more GE foods, the more contamination, the more I am forced to consume them!
myndy86 2 months ago
@myndy86 - I can eh? How much will that cost? How will a customer know about me? I suppose you figure I should advertize my wares to folks hundreds of miles away. How on earth is that going to work?
The contamination you fear is a figment of the internet's imagination. I know GreenPeace tried to start a stir about this in Australia ... see how effective that was?
You've had to eliminate several foods?
Which foods do the organic growers fear are contaminated?
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 months ago
@CouldNotCareLes One farm I buy food from is about 100 miles away from me. I go there a few times a year to make sure their practices are acceptable to me, they ship a lot of food directly and they make a profit. You said "The contamination you fear is a figment of the internet's imagination." This is complete BS! Corn is one of the major problems and GE contamination tests on organic farms I used to buy from have come back positive, at which point they have to take a loss on those crops!
myndy86 2 months ago
@myndy86 -
What is the carbon footprint on food shipped to one person 100 miles away?
How sustainable is having your source of fresh food 100 miles away?
Is that practical for the average producer/consumer?
What are your criteria for acceptable food production?
These organic corn farmers can't sell their product as organic anymore?
I follow ag news closely, I've never heard of this.
If corn is "one of the major problems," what crops are the other major problems?
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 months ago
@CouldNotCareLes 100 miles is nothing if you consider how many times your product is shipped before it reaches the supermarket or food being brought in from most other countries. My food is delivered with numerous other products. You obviously don't "follow ag news closely", if just a couple of months ago you said there is no cry in any GE corn kernels, but shut up when I posted study. If you knew about GE contamination testing you would know one of the methods is TO TEST THE KERNELS!
myndy86 2 months ago
@myndy86 - Driving 100 miles for groceries is insane. How many grocery stores do you pass on the way?
I deliver corn/soybeans 1000 bushels at a time, I haul it ten miles.
It leaves the terminal on a 101 car unit train that goes to the KRAFT factory that makes your salad dressing.
I said there's no cry in GE corn kernels?
I'll tell you that there have been years where there has been cry in corn kernels, and long before GE grain.
the mod allows the bacterium to inhabit higher.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 months ago
@CouldNotCareLes I never said I drive 100 miles to get food. UPS doesn't just deliver one box 100 miles do they? Neither does my food travel 100 miles by itself. Your food still likely travels farther, considering you didn't include distances from your drop off to Kraft or Kraft to wherever else it goes(packaging, warehouse, etc.) before it reaches the supermarket.
myndy86 2 months ago
@myndy86 - We are splitting hairs, I'm sure you are a reasonable consumer.
I have a three month growing season.
I am centered between Minneapolis MN, Sioux Falls SD, and Fargo ND. The farmers markets are all over here, prices are low. Most folks I know grow their own in-season vegetables. I'll make no money trying to get into that.
How did you come to know this farmer 100 miles away?
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 months ago
@CouldNotCareLes "How did you come to know this farmer 100 miles away?", by internet search. I was looking for some organic foods that my local organic farms didn't grow and the supermarkets, etc. didn't carry or they came from Chile, etc. It has worked out well, I still generally pay less than the supermarket, even with shipping costs and I can verify their farming practices.
myndy86 2 months ago
@myndy86 - Where are you located geographically?
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 months ago
@CouldNotCareLes Southeast, U.S.
myndy86 2 months ago
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@CouldNotCareLes You said "I said there's no cry in GE corn kernels?". Yes, you did. Along with numerous other false claims. You said "GMO food does not contain pesticide.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 9 months ago
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myndy86 2 months ago
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@CouldNotCareLes You said "Bt naturally inhabits the lower areas of those same plants, it naturally occurs in dark plant tissue everywhere.
The genetic modification allows it to occur in greener tissue and thus in areas such as the shank of the ear where insects do their damage.
I doubt Bt is going to be in the kernels of plants.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 6 months ago"
youtube"dot"com/all_comments?threaded=1&v=J6KU6v387KU
Obviously you have a pattern of making false statements!
myndy86 2 months ago
you make it sound wrong
123jumoliyo 2 months ago
Also, "this is like you and me walking arround with mosquito repellent coming out of our pores"
....
Really?
...
They could do better than that...
And I'd like to know where they got the information about health problems in people who lived near corn field.
Orlox44 3 months ago
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@Orlox44 " the information about health problems in people who lived near corn field." It came from a study by
Tjere Traavik done in the Philippines "We have used direct and inhibitory ELISAs (enzyme-linked immuno-sorbent assays) to demonstrate IgA, IgG and IgM antibodies specifically binding to Bt-toxin Cry1Ab in sera from Philippine farmers."
myndy86 2 months ago
Why can't videos such as this make their sources available to their viewers?
Information (either defending or alerting against the use of genetically modified foods) shouldn't be considered if it isn't scientifically accurate. The least a video with informative purposes should do is to inform their sources and make them available to their public.
Orlox44 3 months ago
@Orlox44 "GM-fed mice of all ages considered, the number of perichromatin granules is higher and the nuclear pore density lower.""we found enlargements in the smooth endoplasmic reticulum in GM-fed mice Sertoli cells." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15718213
"our data suggest that GM soybean intake can influence hepatocyte nuclear features in young and adult mice" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12441651
myndy86 2 months ago
@Orlox44 "D. magna fed GM-maize showed a significantly reduced fitness performance: The mortality was higher, a lower proportion of females reached sexual maturation, and the overall egg production was lower compared to D. magna fed UM isogenic maize.""The combination of a reduced fitness performance combined with earlier onset of reproduction of D. magna fed Bt-maize indicates a toxic effect rather than a lower nutritional value of the GM-maize." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18347840
myndy86 2 months ago
@Orlox44 "We observed that after the consumption of MON863""Chemistry measurements reveal signs of hepatorenal toxicity""Triglycerides increased by 24-40% in females (either at week 14, dose 11% or at week 5, dose 33%, respectively); urine phosphorus and sodium excretions diminished in males by 31-35% (week 14, dose 33%)""with the present data it cannot be concluded that GM corn MON863 is a safe product." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17356802
myndy86 2 months ago
@Orlox44 "Animal toxicity studies with certain GM foods have shown that they may toxically affect several organs and systems.""The results of most studies with GM foods indicate that they may cause some common toxic effects such as hepatic, pancreatic, renal, or reproductive effects and may alter the hematological, biochemical, and immunologic parameters." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18989835
myndy86 2 months ago
@Orlox44 "Several convergent data appear to indicate liver and kidney problems as end points of GMO diet effects in the above-mentioned experiments. This was confirmed by our meta-analysis of all the in vivo studies published, which revealed that the kidneys were particularly affected, concentrating 43.5% of all disrupted parameters in males, whereas the liver was more specifically disrupted in females (30.8% of all disrupted parameters)." enveurope"dot"com/content/23/1 /10
myndy86 2 months ago
@Orlox44 "Several proteins belonging to hepatocyte metabolism, stress response, calcium signalling and mitochondria were differentially expressed in GM-fed mice, indicating a more marked expression of senescence markers in comparison to controls. Moreover, hepatocytes of GM-fed mice showed mitochondrial and nuclear modifications indicative of reduced metabolic rate. This study demonstrates that GM soybean intake can influence some liver features" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18648843
myndy86 2 months ago
@Orlox44 "This indicates that GM soy protein intake affected pancreas function, evidenced by the early acute PAP mRNA increased levels and pancreas cellular changes followed by recuperation of acinar cells after 30 days." onlinelibrary.wiley"dot"com/doi/10.1002/jat.1319/abstract
"The GM-fed D. magna had lower survival (lx) than the UM-fed D. magna throughout the experiment" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2811247/
myndy86 2 months ago
@Orlox44 "3 GMOs new side effects linked with GM maize consumption, which were sex- and often dose-dependent. Effects were mostly associated with the kidney and liver, the dietary detoxifying organs, although different between the 3 GMOs. Other effects were also noticed in the heart, adrenal glands, spleen and haematopoietic system. We conclude that these data highlight signs of hepatorenal toxicity, possibly due to the new pesticides specific to each GM corn." biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm
myndy86 2 months ago
@myndy86 Genetic engineering is not bad itself, it's just abusive companies.
wei495 2 months ago
@wei495 Studies I posted suggest there are potential adverse health affects. I can post more studies as well including economic losses from GE crops, environmental impact, etc. GE generally poses more risks than conventional breeding, so if the problem can be solved with conventional breeding, organic farming, etc. then GE isn't worth the additional risk. In most cases conventional breeding, native plants, organic farming, etc. has already accomplished what GE has accomplished with less risk.
myndy86 2 months ago
@myndy86 - How much food do you grow myndy86?
Are you going to tell the folks who grow your food how they should grow it for you?
Les
CouldNotCareLes 2 months ago
@CouldNotCareLes So, your argument is that I(the customer) should have no say in the products I purchase? LMAO! GE foods are being forced on me against my will, the same way attempts to force GE crops on countries, etc. are happening in various places throughout the world. I buy most of my food directly from farms and if they don't grow it how I want they will lose me as a customer. Most of the rest of my food I grow myself. You should listen to your customers or you will lose them.
myndy86 2 months ago
I'm here to do my geography E-Learning assignment...
ZohYohDoh 3 months ago
TITS OR GT......oh.....nevermined.. what did you say?
B335430104 3 months ago
Yes, Biased is acceptable because we're fighting against a unscrupulous, deceitful, soulless, extremely greedy, pernicious corporations such as Monsanto. I want my food to be GMO-Free, preferably organic. So, Don't F**** with my natural food!!
Svenmaro 3 months ago 2
LMAO! Whoever thinks this is biased CLEARLY needs to education themselves.
juggalette225 3 months ago
wow shocking!!!!!!
Kikikat1998 4 months ago
SOO bias
vinceleo11 4 months ago
several studies have been done that show many health problems in the second and especially the third generation of offspring that eat GMO foods. There were lots of deformities in the second generation and in the third generation have basically become sterile.
AndyG792 4 months ago
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@AndyG792 There will be rallies throughout the U.S. on 10/16/11 to get mandatory labeling of all products containing genetically engineered/modified organisms.
Go to "Millions Against Monsanto World Food Day 2011" on facebook, for more information.
Go to the "organicconsumers" website to sign petitions.
Type "Millions Against Monsanto Campaign 2011" in the youtube search
myndy86 4 months ago
FUCK MONSANTO !!!
JAMOACHA 4 months ago
Omg
multijunior125 5 months ago
GMO's are creating new diseases we will not be able to treat. There are problems already with GMO foods like virus in the DNA put in a food goes into your veggie, then it actually goes directly into the body. Also they are using Ecoli that is resistant to every antibiotic but one, but trouble is virus' adapt therefore they can become resistant to that antibiotic and we have problems. Also it can mutate out of cell, nature is smart. It is very dangerous, we are playing with nature.!!!
ayurveda1008 6 months ago
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@armeg35 Selective or cross breeding etc. is not the same as genetic modification. Here is the USDA(and just about everyone else`s) definition of genetic engineering "under guidelines issued by USDA`s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, genetic engineering is defined as the genetic modification of organisms by recombinant DNA techniques (7CFR340: 340.1).""Recombinant DNA techniques (DNA formed by combining segments of DNA from different organisms)"
myndy86 6 months ago
@armeg Selective or cross breeding etc. are not the same as genetic modification. Here is the USDA(and just about everone else`s) definition of genetic engineering "under guidelines issued by USDA`s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, genetic engineering is defined as the genetic modification of organisms by recombinant DNA techniques (7CFR340: 340.1).""Recombinant DNA techniques (DNA formed by combining segments of DNA from different organisms)"
myndy86 6 months ago
@zabadoo28 You will mostly avoid GMOs by eating organic fruits and vegetables. There is some level of contamination of organic fruits and vegetables from GM crops, but organic is still your best bet. Choosing wild caught fish and organic meat will also help you avoid GMOs. Animals used for Non-Organic meat are often fed GMO feed and GM DNA can remain in their muscle tissue. Farm raised fish are often fed GMO feed as well, so organic meat and wild caught fish are the best bet.
myndy86 6 months ago
@myndy86 I hope you understand that your so called organic food has also been genetically modified throughout the ages of human civilization. Just pointing that out.
armeg35 6 months ago
@armeg35 yes, but there is a huge difference between Monsanto's GMO seed which were altered through Viruses, Bacteria ( e. coli) and antibiotics.
urzula01 6 months ago
@urzula01 Uh, I don't see a problem with that. Plants already do this but it takes much longer amounts of times. All scientists are doing here is speeding up the process by doing controlled transfers of good traits to other plants.
armeg35 6 months ago
@armeg35 No, plants do not do this on their own. We are asking for trouble and I can see a time coming that normal food will be outlawed and we will be forced to eat GMO. It could be used for population control, etc.
AndyG792 4 months ago
@AndyG792 That's quite the tin foil hat theory there. You do know there are much easier methods of population control than GMO foods, right? Normal food won't be outlawed because people can easily grow it themselves, and corporations will try to make a profit on the suddenly banned food.
armeg35 4 months ago
Will I avoid Genetically Modified foods by buying organically grown vegetables, fruits only? What about meat and fish? Please respond, I need to know as I already suffer with severe digestive problems. Thanks for your help!
zabadoo28 6 months ago
@zabadoo28 it is against the to give a prescription without being a doctor so I will only suggest this as a person that is not prescribing anything. " Vegetables and Fruit that are high in fiber ( self grown will be better) will help with digestive problems. Organic colostrum from cow and goat helps a lot. Organic pancakes instead of IHOP or Denny's.
urzula01 6 months ago
@urzula01 I meant to say against the law
urzula01 6 months ago
@jsharbro Conventional breeding that has been going on for thousands of years is not the same as genetic modification. Here is the USDA definition of genetic engineering. "under guidelines issued by USDA`s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, genetic engineering is defined as genetic modification of organisms by recombinant DNA techniques (7CFR340: 340.1).""Recombinant DNA techniques(DNA formed by combining segments of DNA from different organisms)"
myndy86 6 months ago
@jsharbro UN/World Bank report International Assessment of Agriculture Science Technology Development by 400 scientists concluded biotechnology has very little potential to alleviate hunger or poverty. If you are concerned about feeding people in poor countries you should support organic and not GM.
myndy86 6 months ago
Genetically modified foods are going to solve the worlds hunger problems. If you think that genetic engineering is bad, you are a fool. We have been genetically modifying food for thousands of years. We are just better at it now.
jsharbro 6 months ago
/watch?v=kQIw5qkq2QY
The Millions Against Monsanto campaign is taking action across the country. Protests will continue, leading up World Food Day, which will be the largest day of action in US history on October 16th, 2011.
uncere 7 months ago
The fact that mainly all food currently available on the market has little to no nutrients whatsoever, and that contributes to the epidemic of PREVENTABLE DISEASES that we are facing makes me mad. It's incredible the little knowledge of people regarding food while we face cancer, heart disease, you name it and it's due to lack of nutrients and many other factors involved as well. And yet we see this trend of "looking good for the summer" while most of us are dying
for no apparent reason.
mikeelman 7 months ago
@mikeelman i completely agree. Our food supply has gone to shit and anything is barely organic anymore. Search up Mon Santo and you'll see how organizations like that are ruining our food and sickening us just to make a profit.
Frosty539018 7 months ago
Excellent imagery
DlABL0GlCAL 7 months ago
@ Dimeaspy...the words u type or speak will consume u. We nor you, r gods n we will never be. I hope you r found b4 u r too far lost
bigjockdogg 7 months ago
It had nothing to do with GM crops, it was a vaccination trial, not available to public. Wait, does that mean that you are against vaccinations too?
kokoin 7 months ago
@kokoin I don't get my yearly flu shot and I have never had the flu unintentionally. So yes I am against vaccinations because not once have they helped me lol, in fact the first time I ever got a flu shot I got sick with the flu that I was suppose to be immune to... Thanks to that lovely vaccination lol. Science sometimes proves itself to be so smart that its left looking stupid in the end.
Missioneer 6 months ago
@Missioneer ok, i get your point - gm is bad, vaccinations don't work... may i ask you if you believe in god or any other supernatural creature?
kokoin 6 months ago
@kokoin Ahahahaha! I do not believe in a single god, nor do I believe in religion. However, I do respect the morals that some religions express such as buddhism or sikhism( I dislike relgions that push themselves onto others such as christianity lol). I do respect medical advancements considering they helped me in my time of enduring a tumor in my left teste, but after that it healed up and dissapeared all together on its own... I was shocked, in a good way! Maybe my spirits will was strong :P.
Missioneer 6 months ago
@Missioneer perhaps it was :D perhaps we shall introduce a new kind of medicine - a spiritual workout, thats gotta make some buck...
kokoin 5 months ago
@kokoin Lmao :P
Missioneer 5 months ago
@Missioneer God created you with an immune system that is awesome. i had an L5 prostate cancer that had masticated to my bones and fatty tissue. I am trying to eat according to Genesis 1:29 because I believe that God created food to keep us healthy. I juice carrots and other vegetables as well as eat raw veggies in salads and try to eat 5 fruit / day. the cancer has left my bones and fatty tissue an has shrunk in the prostate by about 50 to 70% in the past 3 years. Praise God.
AndyG792 4 months ago
@AndyG792 God did not magically create you with a strong immune system. That took millions of years of human evolution to finally achieve. Genesis 1:29 says nothing about what you should eat, but simply tells christians that they have access to the world's fruits and vegetables. The diet you are talking about is considered healthy in general, and just so you know if you had really had prostate cancer that diet you are talking about would not have solved the problem.
armeg35 4 months ago
@AndyG792 Religious or not, miracles happen from day to day whether they are big or little *thumbs up*.
Missioneer 4 months ago
@grendelee The USDA(and just about everyone else`s) definition of genetic modification is that it uses recombinant dna techniques. That means cross breeding, selective breeding etc. is not genetic modification. So, genetic modification is not thousands of years old.
myndy86 7 months ago
people ask why there is an e.coli out breake in germany.perhaps this gmo foods full of bacteria and viruses it has nothing to do with the grower or the spain.it has to do with GMO FOODS.
lied2bygov 8 months ago
@lied2bygov Quote "ORGANIC FOODS BEHIND E.COLI OUTBREAK IN GERMANY"
Redpill2011 7 months ago
@lied2bygov Ehm... The source of the E. Coli outbreak in Germany was an ORGANIC farm that produced sprouted foods. The farm has been shut down and the outbreak stopped.
Lemonz1989 7 months ago
monsanto will cause the next genocide
lied2bygov 8 months ago
WOW Now im afraid to even eat! ty for the truth
Boozebegood 8 months ago
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Idtelos 8 months ago
@kokoin ZAMBIA DIDN`T LET PEOPLE STARVE! World Food Programme replaced the GM food with Non-GM food donated by the European Union. ACCEPTING GM FOOD WOULD HAVE CRUSHED THE ZAMBIAN ECONOMY! 53% of Zambian exports were to the EU with strict guidelines on GM.
myndy86 8 months ago
lol 1:26
"what is genetically modified foods"
nice grammer
the rest was pretty good though
lilac1397 8 months ago
@lilac1397
grammar not grammer.
[...the rest was pretty good though.]
eaterofclams 8 months ago
@eaterofclams lol fail on my part :)
lilac1397 8 months ago
You don't look like you are starving. You must celebrate the fact that you are able to eat organic but most people just cant afford it. It is so self-centered to lie about food that saved more than a billion lifes. Get a life and stop this organic propaganda.
I was born in place where many people could barely afford any food - you should go and live there for some time.
kokoin 9 months ago
@kokoin i was born in a place where there was barely any food. and even i can see that genetic modified organisms is NOT the answer. the truth is the food isn't been distibuted properly. that's why people (like my family) were starving.
6KiiDZ 9 months ago
@6KiiDZ why isn't GM food an answer?
Talking about distribution - in 2002 Friends of the earth published that GM food given to starving Zambia was dangerous (even though no evidence to support that statement existed). Zambian Gvt. destroyed the food. They left 2.9 million people starving.
kokoin 9 months ago
@kokoin It's altering the natural structures of animals and plants. This could have a devastating effect on the eco system. And even if GMO was increased, it's obvious its purpose is to feed the more fortunate people while the less fortunate will continue to starve. Also, a neighboruing village to one of my relatives in Tsumeb (in South Africa) actually burnt two small fields because the GM crops were “making them sick”. [continued]...
6KiiDZ 9 months ago
@6KiiDZ .. Although they’re tempted to grow conservatively, they actually think that land could be cursed now (obviosuly it's not but it's not). And how do you know GMO won’t have any effect in the long term?
6KiiDZ 9 months ago
@6KiiDZ what exactly is natural? nature constantly alters genetics it's called evolution. Talking about devastating consequences I would expect some sort of evidence...
Your neighbors burned their crops, doesn't sound to me like they were starving... I doubt poor people in Haiti who eat dirt would be that picky...
kokoin 8 months ago
@kokoin "natures all the animals, plants and other things in the world that are not made by people, and all the events and processes that are not caused by people"- dictionary definition :)
dude, you need to look into the cons aswell as your pros for GMOs. I can't be bothered to type them down just for you.
And trusssst me, these people aren't picky. They are very poor. My life started beside them at one point; with plentiful hunger.
6KiiDZ 8 months ago
@6KiiDZ So the problem is intervention conducted by people, sounds like sth bible would say...
So I won't get any evidence of GM harming people, damn...
Yeah, not picky and yet they burn food :D
kokoin 8 months ago
@kokoin OMG MUST YOU BE SPOON FED INFORMATION!!!!! CROSS POLLINATION AND CONTAMINATION IS A PROBLEM, PESTS AND INSECTS BECOMING RESISTANT TO GM GENES, THERE ARE MASSIVE ECONOMIC IMPACTS WHICH I CAN'T TO BOTHERED TO GO INTO DETAIL WITH. BECUASE OF GMO, THE USE OF PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES WILL INCREASE.
6KiiDZ 8 months ago
@kokoin i just realised i've answered almost all of your questions, you still have given me an answer to mine: how do you know GMo won't have a negative effect on us in the future????
6KiiDZ 8 months ago
@kokoin GM crops have harmed people economically. "Bayer AG has agreed to settle a lawsuit brought by a group of Texas rice growers over claims the company's experimental biotech rice contaminated the U.S. supply four years ago and decimated exports." "The company still faces thousands of claims," "In February, a jury ordered Bayer to pay $1.5 million in damages to three farmers for losses due to contamination by Bayer's genetically modified rice."
myndy86 8 months ago
@kokoin There have been human death using GM during gene therapy. In 1999, gene therapy suffered a major setback with the death of 18-year-old Jesse Gelsinger. Jesse was participating in a gene therapy trial for ornithine transcarboxylase deficiency (OTCD). He died from multiple organ failures 4 days after starting the treatment. His death is believed to have been triggered by a severe immune response to the adenovirus carrier.
myndy86 8 months ago
@kokoin Another human death using GM during gene therapy "A 36-year-old woman with rheumatoid arthritis died in July, while participating in a gene-therapy clinical trial. Some experts say she shouldn't have received such an unpredictable, potentially dangerous treatment in the first place." wired"dot"com/medtech/genetics/news/2007/08/gene_therapy
myndy86 8 months ago
As a student studying plant genetics and breeding I feel this video is absolutely weak on facts and heavy on ideology. The presenters have no idea what they are talking about. They cant even spell. Let alone cite their information. TERRIBLE
southendsurfer 9 months ago
@southendsurfer
As if PLANT genetics has anything to do with GMO technology; where genes from
[fungus, bacteria, viruses, animals], are spliced into the plant's DNA. Big Ag is not
"breeding" plants ..they are creating freaks.
*"they cant [sic] even spell"..
and your grammar is pitiful. "Let alone cite their information." is a coherent sentence? really? [no].
..and "cant" [sic] is a contraction. where is the apostrophe? [can't]
MONSANTO thanks you for your support. go team!
eaterofclams 8 months ago
this is one of the thousands of reasons why america is dying!!... the most high wont let this devil go on for long!!...
h95718 9 months ago
This video is such a joke, talk about scare tactics. It would be nice if they could spell Bacillus thuringiensis correctly. I'd love to read this study about the phillipinos who suffered intestinal problems because I don't trust these people to be issuing out information like that; and even if these crops are 'releasing Bt toxin' the people nearby are probably receiving a great deal less than they were when fields were sprayed with Bt toxin which by the way is considered an organic pesticide.
stydgj2 10 months ago
@stydgj2 The study was done by Terje Traavik, scientific director of the Norwegian Institute of Gene Ecology. Blood tests showed the villagers had developed antibodies to the maize's inbuilt pesticide. His studies suggest that a virus promoter was found intact in human cells. His team found that genetically engineered viruses used in the GM process recombined with natural viruses to create new hybrid viruses with unpredictable characteristics. This suggests they could cause new diseases.
myndy86 9 months ago
@myndy86 just had a bit of a read, couldn't find the one about the philipinos unfortunately but I did find one by Tjere Traavik - The 35S CaMV plant virus promoter is active in human enterocyte-like cells. 2006. Eur Food Res Technol.- seems like an interesting bit of research, but a couple of things strike me here. In the paper they transfect cells using a preparation of their construct along with some stuff called 'lipofectamine'- which I breifly googled and......
stydgj2 9 months ago
@myndy86 ... it is marketed as being particularly efficient at getting DNA in to living cells. They also remarked (and as can be seen form their data) that the 35s promoter is much less powerful than the human virus promoter control. I can't help thinking that in a real life situation, that level of uptake of DNA by cells just wouldn't occur and with all the other genetic material we eat all the time it seems insignificant. Bearing in mind that the codon bias of the Bt gene was changed...
stydgj2 9 months ago
@myndy86 for maize anyway (and an animal GFP used for the experiment) I just can't help but remain sceptical of this idea. I'd be interested to find out what the level of expression the promoters for other plant peptides (possibly toxic ones) confer in mammalian cells. I don't suppose you could refer me to the study about the phillipinos?
stydgj2 9 months ago
@stydgj2 Those were results from 3 studies by Tjere Traavik. The filipino study "We have used direct and inhibitory ELISAs (enzyme-linked immuno-sorbent assays) to demonstrate IgA, IgG and IgM antibodies specifically binding to Bt-toxin Cry1Ab in sera from Philippine farmers." The genok webite has references to the other studies. The i-sis website article "Scientists Discover New Route for GM-gene 'Escape'" has other references to studies suggesting DNA from GMOs has gotten into living cells.
myndy86 9 months ago
@21stgear Cross and selective breeding are not the same as genetic modification. Genenetic modification DOES put animal genes in plants. Even HUMAN GENES HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLANTS. Look up"Human Genes In RIce:Opening Up Pandoras Box"
Go to a GMO rally throughout the U.S. on 3/26/11 for more info.
Go to "Rally for the Right to Know" on facebook.
myndy86 10 months ago
Fun fact tomatoes were originally poisonous berries. but through the act of genetic modification they are the fruit we know today. Also there is no Animal DNA in vegetables
21stgear 10 months ago
@21stgear Fun fact the first organism ever genetically modified was in 1973(people were eating tomatoes long before 1973). There are genes from the bacterium Bacillus thuringiensis in several genetically modified plants. Bacillus thuringiensis produces an insecticide.
myndy86 10 months ago
@myndy86 Cross breading was used to boost the size of Tomatoes. you are technically modifying something by cross breading which was used long before 1973
21stgear 10 months ago
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There will be protests regarding genetic engineering/modification throughout the u.s. on 3/26/11.
Please see the "Rally for the Right to Know" facebook page, for more info.
Petitions can be signed at the "organicconsumers" website.
myndy86 10 months ago
Smart and cute! Speak the Truth, you amazing and influancial! The Network needs to build place for the people to go to and grow and live together, like permacultutred villages.
TakeTheGreenPill 10 months ago
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Todos podemos denunciar a estos Psicópatas creadores de TRANSGENICOS ante la Corte Internacional Penal, hay grupos que así lo hacen sobre todo los países perjudicados, sea ud. parte de este movimiento. ¡Desde sus países denuncien ahora a los Psicópatas Norteamericanos! ¡Ellos solo son 5 microbios! Todos unidos 6 mil millones de DENUNCIAS PENALES los venceremos!
Valmer7000 10 months ago
there is no evidence to support all of your health complications
boobgun222 11 months ago
Listen really there should have been alot more testing done before any gmo's were introduced on the market. Did you know that there is enough food to feed the planet it is just not distributed equally. As for the science behind wanting to help ensure food for the food chain no however there is something wrong with science when we become the gunea pigs in the experiment. There are greater issues for example the environment implications for starters what can grow in the fields after.
Kryssyskingdom 11 months ago
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1-Zionists want to depopulate the world with genetically modified organisms.
2-Zionists want to enslave the whole world with genetically modified organisms.
MsPicassos 11 months ago
Although Yes there really are developing countries under siege as suggested and is it not the social responsibility of those who have some influence become informed....and set a way by an example and not supplementing the economies of these giants who can crush countries easily... BT Cotton giant disaster and others like it have proved it to be the seed of death.
Bottom line there is no testing and no labeling on top of it here in a combination of the proven detriment it has on the environment.
Kryssyskingdom 1 year ago
@Kryssyskingdom wrote, "you went from what to selling pizza?"
I never sold pizza
I worked as an Information Systems Analyst for a VERY large frozen food company.
I went from a dumbass farmer, to a programmer, to an IT project manager, to a Business Systems Analyst for a company who has the leading frozen pizza brand in the United States of America (all while continuing farming my family's homesteads.)
They tried to market their crap in Europe and failed.
Les
CouldNotCareLes 1 year ago
LES get your fact straight before you say anything there is for starters of countries that have banned or restricted GMO's.... you went from what to selling pizza...From this list would you like to tell me please hmmm how many here are developing countries??????? Would you like to tell me who could not read what you wrote ...please stay on topic some countries like France are Vigilant where others like Brazil are some what slowly falling way due to reasons such as cross contamination....
Kryssyskingdom 1 year ago
Countries that have banned or restricted GMO's
Africa: Algeria, Egypt
Asia: Sri Lanka, Thailand, China, Japan, Phillipines
Europe: The European Union, Norway, Austria, Germany United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, Greece, France, Luxembourg, Portugal
Latin America: Brazil, Paraguay
Middle East: Saudi Arabia
Pacific: American Samoa, Cook Isls, Fiji, Kiribati, Federated States of Micronesia, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, Australia, New Zealand
Kryssyskingdom 1 year ago
@Kryssyskingdom in zambia, greenpeace told the president that, the food that the u.s. which was GMO, was poison, and he refused them. and what hpapened after that? their people starved.
cole3454657 11 months ago
As for your frozen food company could be cause the product was crap it was frozen.... and from where HERE.... which really of all the things to try to market in Europe ....... AMERICAN FROZEN PIZZA.... that was doomed on the day of planning and you do have to take Marketing to see that.
Kryssyskingdom 1 year ago
@Kryssyskingdom - Exactly right.
The top selling pizza in the US is not even considered food elsewhere.
The average American kid eats it more than any other food.
Are you saying that folks in developing nations (where they prepare food from raw grains) are more informed than Americans?
Perhaps we should study how they get the word out and try to mimic it here.
Ummm, sheesh!
Les
CouldNotCareLes 1 year ago
Uh LES. considering we are a corn fed nation did not miss a thing what you seem to want people to think is they can do nothing and this is how it is.
That everyone eats crap & in regards to the countries that are more whole food orientated however they can still buy crap there too.
Stop trying to have people believe that is cause they only eat whole foods bottom line is they became aware of GMO's produce & grain & said NO.... Hence people not being powerless here we are just uninformed
Kryssyskingdom 1 year ago
It is unfortunate if anyone would listen 2@CouldNotCareLes but has made some points which people need to aware of yes raw foods..
not all but they are on the market but not the countries that banned ALL GMO's not just some and kept some for the mass produced shelf products. This is way far reaching but all Les has proven here is people if you want to know more get involved and become informed.
LES is an example of why you should...And LES as for grouping everyone as ignorant is ignorance itself
Kryssyskingdom 1 year ago
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you suck furting idiotical spast
flostar123 1 year ago
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flostar123 1 year ago
Any tests done by those big corps making GE foods like MONSANTO, SYRGENTA, DUPONT AND BAYER.. They have concealed these results by making them confidential from you and even the government.this way more than a "fish tomato" Corn, Soy, etc. you are already ingesting these foods without your consent .... They do not have to label GE foods in North America..... In Europe they do and no one will buy them so they are not producing it there... There countries that have banned GMO's completely
Kryssyskingdom 1 year ago
@Kryssysking DO SOMETHING THEN!spread organic heirloom food seed far and wide, its called"johnny appleseed economics"or"gorrila gardens",spread more organic food. wake up everyone,do your part!?IF YOU ARE angry,get seed and make a organic revolution your way.SPREAD THE HEIRLOOM SEED EVERYWHERE TELL OTHERS! INCREASE THE FOOD SUPPLY RIGHT NOW WHILE WE GOT TIME!! GROW VERTICAL GARDENS IF YOU DONT HAVE THE SPACE! START NOW
A PEOPLE IS ONLY AS STRONG AS ITS STOMACH
tell 10 OTHER PEOPLE RIGHT NOW
boxa888 1 year ago
@boxa888
Not sure where you get the anger part here has to be it is just one of those things that well the facts should be out there.... some facts are there has been no testing by these companies who make GE foods which you as well as the rest of us are consuming GE foods without consent... however if we want to discuss Organic farming well is under risk since GE foods have proven to be detrimental to those crops by cross contamination GE is proven to be invasive by cross pollination .
Kryssyskingdom 1 year ago
Lastly how about for starters the food be tested an labeled allow consumers to make