25 lpm hydrogen generator HHO cell DC-Hybrids.com~ New S cell

[jelwjelw]

This is the problem, heat .... with the pump and fans ... ok.

I have 4 S CELL 120 VDC.

[frank0067]

i am buying one of these but i hesitate for the heat issue...

anyone figured out how to get around this?

[jaimemarcial69]

@frank0067 ebay item #320765707853 it works i run 150amps and it is 21 liters but u need a alter that cost $550

[justfurfunny]

@DCHybrids Why would you stoop to their level? That is very immature of you, and bad business, if i do say so. Now that being said... Basic Electricity 101: The higher the amperes, the larger the wire you need, voltage being almost irrelevant. The powerlines overhead generally carry 765,000 volts but are at very, very low amperes. If they carried only 480 volts, in order to supply the electricity demand, the amperes would be so high that they would need wires the size of, well, a school bus.

[Video85Man]

you can literally run a car off that !! NICE!!

[caboflyguy]

DC, ur right. He is a jackass! There is a website that sells mini-heatercore type radiators in stainless steel. Their a little spendy, but worth the money to keep that production. Then just add a sureflow pump, about 1/2 gal per min. and a 4 in. computer fan and your rolling my friend. Good luck! p.s. the pump has ss and plastic so wont corode.

[prototype9000]

seems to work pretty well

[altern8energy]

it does generate in excess of 20 LPM. I've got the KOH concentrate high enough that at a cold startup I get over 20LPM of cool HHO gas. Problem is when you're drawing over 20A, you end up heating the electrolyte quite fast. I'm thinking about adding a PC water cooler radiator that will dissipate 1300W of heat. Might end up adding 2 to get 2600W of heat dissipation. This isn't going in a vehicle. It's going to be used for a gas heater, gas stove, or power a propane 20KW generator.

[TheJax101]

That's is a much better looking heater than my truck has. $1000.00 truck heater, a bit steep I might add.

How much for 2 truck heaters? any deals?

[altern8energy]

I can attest to this.. I have one of these S cells too. I'm still trying to figure out how many amps I need to put in the system along with the proper electrolyte mixture to get the 25LPM. I'm figuring 25A, but I need a larger breaker because all the house breakers are 20A. Then I have to figure out how to incorporate a heat exchanger to pull the heat out of the electrolyte. 120V*25A=3000W. That will boil the electrolyte in 15-30mins.

[MikeCooper100]

Dude it's a scam they don't increase mileage

They destroy aluminum parts over time.

But I bet it makes a nice torch.

[altern8energy]

jackass.. it's going to make steam as it heats the water. the key is to run the electrolyte through a radiator or heat exchanger to pull the heat out of the electrolyte and still being able to hit it with 25A.

[Me102288]

@altern8energy heat exchange = hose wrapped in a coil, under some nice cold water? seen ppl do them, looks like a plastic radiator honestly..3000 watts?...increase the surface area of the plates, lower the voltage across them.... more efficient when the plates are under 3 volts (per plate). Any cell under 12 inches sqaure should be 12V UNDER 25 amps (under 300 watt) or your producing steam... unless its not going in a car/truck, then I guess I doesnt matter.

[Me102288]

@altern8energy heat exchange = hose wrapped in a coil, under some nice cold water? seen ppl do them, looks like a plastic radiator honestly..3000 watts?...increase the surface area of the plates, lower the voltage across them.... more efficient when the plates are under 3 volts (per plate). Any cell under 12 inches sqaure should be 12V UNDER 25 amps (under 300 watt) or your producing steam... unless its not going in a car/truck, then I guess I doesnt matter.

[jaimemarcial69]

@altern8energy for the heat exchanger go on ebay and look for item #320765707853 all ss it work i bought 3 and the cell cant get no hotter than 115 f

[english20002000]

Agreeing with MikeCopper100

[DCHybrids]

Another tiny brain

[MikeCooper100]

Just another crook selling his snake oil!

[MikeCooper100]

No way in hell you're getting 25LPM on car battery.

[DCHybrids]

How are you going to tell me about my product. It runs off dc. The dc in the title is the name of the company genius.

[DCHybrids]

Its for big trucks and commercial vehicles

[MikeCooper100]

But you're intro states and I quote.

"(2) 30 Plate cells wired in series To create a 120v system for extreme HHO gas production~"

120 volt system!

[DCHybrids]

yes it is 120v, but were do you get the ac from, you can have 120vdc or is that to much for your little brain

[altern8energy]

dumbass.. it's a 120V system. They use a 12VDC to 120VAC inverter then run the 120VAC into a bridge rectifier to get 120VDC. need about a 3500W inverter to get maximum gas production. I'm looking to scale this design up to much larger plates and insulator panels.

[DCHybrids]

We also have a 12vdc to 120vdc converter that we sell, but you are right it work both ways

[altern8energy]

how many amps do you need at 120V to get 25LPM??

[prototype9000]

why use an inverter it draws the same power from the battery you can get the same wattage from a battery without an inverter

[altern8energy]

what are you talking about?? if you're going to use 12VDC to run a 60 plate system, you need an inverter to change from DC to get the 120VAC, then you run that 120VAC into a bridge diode pack to get your 120VDC. You then feed this into your 60 plate cell to get the 2VDC drop across each plate.

[prototype9000]

still its the same energy coming from the battery ive seen cells work on less than 2 volts before the inverter puts no more power in than the battery can provide. i havent tried it myself though because i never use plates whatever works i guess then do it

[altern8energy]

I'm running a 60 plate system. I need 120VDC for it to work.. If I'm going to run off a 12VDC source, the voltage needs to be stepped up by a factor of 10 for me to use it. That's where the inverter comes into play. A 60 plate system will generate way more HHO than a 12VDC unit. Unless you have a 12VDC system that has very large plates. Either way for either system, you;re going to be running 2500+ watts to get the 20+ LPM...

[OriginalUncleNemo]

@altern8energy Unless you use the typical -NNNNN+NNNNN- design......then 12 volts is fine. Spacing of the plates also has a great effect on electrolyte concentration. I have dozens of cells I have tested over the years and it is amazing to see the difference in output, heat and amp draw from cell to cell with the same exact electrolyte mix.

[altern8energy]

@OriginalUncleNemo yeah but 12V systems require shitloads of current. I suppose if you have a bank of deep cycle marine batteries and a 175A alternator to keep them charged up. what you've drawn is a parallel series cell. parallel cells draw more current. 125-130VDC with 60-63 plates produces just as much if not more gas with half the current.

[OriginalUncleNemo]

@altern8energy It is the same wattage, whether 12 volts @ 200A or 120 volts @ 20A. I agree, 200 amps is CRAZY, LOL. Much easier to transfer 20 amps.

[DCHybrids]

@ 12 volts it would be around 200 amps that would melt the cell, but 120 volts at 20 amps the cell runs great.

[english20002000]

Dam it people tell us the AMPS who cars about the volts.

[MikeCooper100]

Bud it's a scam and they are looking for you're stimulus money to fund it.

[DCHybrids]

Why do you think it is a scam, besides lack of intelligence.

[MikeCooper100]

cause you Say it's DC in the title but it's AC for starters.