Opera: The Rhinegold, Part II, The Ring of Nibelung, Wagner

[nemwa]

I want to listen to this without the douchebag talking!!!

[alezander666]

raised in arizona,the legends of hopi,navajo,zuni,ect,stories of the "spder woman",the rising up from inner earth the tribes,power of snake and springs sacred,NOT VERY DIFFERENT FROM THESE NIEBENLUNGENLEID TALES,ALL ANCIENTS HAVE THESE STORIESi

[Necroman666]

your book you can see how it seems totaly bull shit and I and haven't even read a word of it

[handofnergal]

There are a few differences in the ring cycle from the Norse mythology that I read

Valhalla was supposed to be the home of the Einherjar rather than the Aesir, whose collective home was Asgard

and the names are quite different, I prefer Thor to Donner and Odin to Wotan ^^

[CincyDude5]

What if I were smoking some really killer lettuce?

[HuninMunin]

Well northforge either you missed the point of Wagner's Ring or you didn't and decided to point out the obvious anyway.

The Ring is not about mythology.

[northforge]

As a Norse Historian there are many confusions in Wagners work. For instance the Twilight of the Gods is not that of a Huge fire per se but the epic battle of Ragnarök. Although the minions of Surt from Muspelheim will lay seige to Asgard via the Rainbow bridge, but the bridge buckles under the weight of the Fire Giants.

[Grimgerde]

If they are "confusions" they are only so in the sense that some members of the audience could be confused by the discrepancies between Norse "canon" and Wagner's interpretation. Frankly, I think the way Wagner tied parts of different Norse myths together, including elements from the German Nibelungenlied, is quite clever. However, even among the actual Norse myths there are inconsistencies.

Another interesting interpretation is Padraic Colum's Children of Odin.

[VainEldritch]

Fabulous... this adds so many layers to my enjoyment I would have otherwise taken much time to glean.

[CharlottedeAllemagne]

Thanks so much :). This is very useful supplementation