Pt 1/6 Jesse Ventura : New Show 'Conspiracy Theory' on TruTv 11/10/09 - Alex Jones Show

[SlashDotDash121]

That picture of Jesse makes him look like the bad dude from iron man 1

[defiantwon33]

Where a government has come into power through some form of popular vote, fraudulent or not, and maintains at least an appearance of constitutional legality, the guerrilla outbreak cannot be promoted, since the possibilities of peaceful struggle have not yet been exhausted.

[defiantwon33]

....People must see clearly the futility of maintaining the fight for social goals within the framework of civil debate. When the forces of oppression come to maintain themselves in power against established law, peace is considered already broken.

-both excerpts taken from Guerrilla Warfare by Ernesto 'Che' Guevara. now, which one do you think paints a more accurate picture?

[defiantwon33]

...and that is what surely will happen if everyone just runs around spouting 'revolution! revolution! I have a dream!' we must also consider the diversity of america and what WILL happen if we in fact did have a successful revolution: a power struggle for control, much like what's been going on in africa for the past century. 'enemy of my enemy....only exists until that enemy's been exterminated; then the shit hits the fan.'

[defiantwon33]

so don't get me wrong, wrenault, we're on the same side. we just have different opinions regarding this side.

[defiantwon33]

this thread is a continuance from the bottom, btw.

[nelson6602]

you guys rock.

[Adlovesmusic2009]

ya need more people to wake up people, get people to come together as one race!! HUMANS, we need to stand up against these unjuntice that the gov, the bildabergs, illuminti are perpatrating, trying to kill us, and eliminate us, for there greed and money.. we need to strive for peace lvoe and harmony, want and project a better future and strive to do the right thing, be smart and if hit em where it hurts, do w/e you can.. good luck man i wish you and your family, friends and thier families peace

[wrenault091]

How can we support this TruTV show without being a neilsen family? THey should at least put a commercial-ridden version on the trutv website, a lot of people are interested in this show, and the republican/democrat talking heads in mainstream media is already trying to destroy this show. MILLIONS of us are tired of status quo brainwashed programming. Where do we go to support this show?

[defiantwon33]

paron me, i know what you're trying to say, but do you really think your opinion or support would matter when the circle jerk in washington wants to squelch? who are you in comparrison with the companies and private investors that really run this country? you're just an american citizen. a nobody. pretty damn sad, isn't it?

[wrenault091]

@defiantwon33: Yes I do really think our opinion and support could matter, a growing number of people are waking up, the movement for freedom and truth is gaining critical mass, millions and millions of people are fed up and demanding REAL change. Millions of people all shouting as one can be pretty hard to ignore, especially when the alternative could be revolutionary... But I hope we bring about legitimate change peaceably, I HAVE A DREAM!

[defiantwon33]

i'm sorry to say you're delusional then. consider these estimates: 10% of the population controls 90% of the economy and have been doing so quite comfortably for before you and i were born. people getting fed up and demanding real change doesn't even blip on their radar. we're talking about a country that is purposefully destroying our environment and provoking world wars - much like hitler, mind you, establishing mass fronts - all in the name of greed.

[defiantwon33]

millions and millions? don't make me laugh. the number of people that buy into this american image of righteousness are far more than those of us that see right through it. the number of us that see america for what she is is increasing but revolutions are not won by passion alone, so check your emotions at the door and use your head: the fundamental premise of guerrilla warfare is that you do not enter a battle that you are sure to lose....

[wrenault091]

@defiantwon33: I don't believe the rules of guerrilla warfare have anything to do with this though, guerrilla warfare is about being outnumbered, and is physical war. If enough people wake up, the zeitgeist will change whether the self-proclaimed 'ruling elite' like it or not, there COULD be peaceful revolution, the major difference between today and the 60s? This isn't just ONE age range, people from across all demographics,ages, races, political ideologies are slowly starting to stand together

[defiantwon33]

you see i just don't see this happening. call me a pessimist, if you will, but the political beast, like all beasts, will fight for its survival. the government is going to simply say, "ok, we give up. we'll step down because a majority of the nation and practically the whole world thinks we're doing a bad job. we apologize." they're going to use every weapon at their disposal to ensure that America continues on (with their hands on the leash)

[defiantwon33]

*isn't going to simply say...* woops

[defiantwon33]

...and i'm presuming that since you align yoursself with jesse ventura then you're also a fellow believer that the US had a hand in 9/11. so let's contemplate that for a second - the us government faked a terrorist attack in which thousands of americans were killed so we could invade afghanistan and then iraq. what are they really capable of when 'the gloves come off''?

[defiantwon33]

...a contingency to shouting I HAVE A DREAM is very necessary. voice your opinion by all means. never stop being vocal, but if you think that's enough, you really are dreaming.