@langsidedrive I am curious, which violin version you refer to. All the ones I personally have found that appeal to my taste, have exactly the same duration: Milstein, Heifetz, Fischer, etc.
mmm tiene muy buena técnica como para tocar así de rápido esta obra , pero lamentablemente no me gusta como suena no se entiende casi nada no ce donde quiere llegar tocando así de rápido ya que lo que importa es la interpretación eh escuchado versiones mil veces mejor que esta , por lo menos la mejor versión que eh escuchado es la de el sr. Carlos Perez
I think at this tempo , this piece is so much livelier. I just don't see why people slam musicians for playing something fast. This is really good rendition.
Estimado, hay alguna version que nos recomiende oir que represente y recree vuestro ideal estetico?. Quisiera oirla y asi poder obtener un diagnostico. Quiero saber si me aqueja aquella enfermedad social que ud menciona.
@dadavidvid Querido David. No fue mi intencion ofender a nadie, y me parece extraordinaria tu intencion de ir mas alla de nuestro instrumento, cosa que ademas de inteligente me parece absolutamente logica.
Yo escucharia a Nikolaus Harnoncourt dirigiendo la Sinfonia BWV 29, que es la version orquestal de este preludio, que el propio Bach arreglo. Tambien oiria a Nathan Milstein (esta en youtube) y a Gustav Leonhardt (si lo puedes conseguir).
It' s the same old argument I've heard a thousand times before. How fast to play Bach? I've heard it played at all different speeds and i personally think he plays a little too fast on this piece, but it still sounds good. There are so many versions out there, that if you don't like it pick another one. I don't think anyone plays Bach like goran sollscher. But rafael is coming to portland soon and I can't wait too see him perform.
Banal and tasteless ? No. Bach in the 21st Century ? Yes. After all, there are only so many ways of playing this piece traditionally so hats off to someone who gives it new life. Bravo.
"There are only 3 factors that affect the election of tempo in a piece: Harmony, Rythm and Melody.
out of the three harmony has the ability to influence much more, you can have 10000 rythms but if the harmony doesnt move they sound still, and when the harmony moves, it creates another rhythm. Harmony also creates melodies, therefore its the most important factor for choosing a tempo"
If anybody here feels they know more than Barenboim please complain :)
@KidaReborn For me its still a better argument than saying "my name is "kidareborn" and I know just because i know."
When you record the houndreds of cd's and spend the years analyzing and studiyng music, conducting the Chicago Symphony, the orchestra of paris while mantaining an active piano carreer for FIFTY YEARS then you are entitled to even begin to argue if barenboim is really "a good musician". These spoiled "i know it all kids" nowadays..pisses me off.
I totally agree with you. I doubt that Bach wrote the piece for guitar virtuosos.. :-) playing this beautiful piece of music (an adaptation, it is useful to remember, from the Violin partita) at this speed renders the piece itself banal and tasteless. Aguirre is an amazing guitar player, precise and with a clean sound. But his reading of this Bach's masterpiece is meaningless. Just listen to what John Williams is able to create on the same work....
@guitalvaro yes, a transcription that bach himself did for the lute. If you listen to any of the modern day common practice musicians you'll find that it's not supposed to be anywhere near this speed.
@thejugglenaut91 You mean common practice musicians such as Nikolaus Harnoncourt (teacher of Rafael's Teacher) or Ton Koopman? Both of who recorded this prelude in its cantata version at the same speed. There. In your face :)
But this is transcription for lute not for guitar!
You have to remember that lute was a gentle instrument in those days and the strigns probley were very soft so it was impossible to play so fast like that!
Also in violin it should be so fast beacuse in that way its sound like polyphony.
Hear David Russell prefomence its AMAZING
In my opininoin, this speed is amazing!
But in this speed he misses all the polyphony and we can't hear the diffrents bettwen the voices.
My argument is that playing that fast we just can't follow the music. He just plays a certain number of notes the faster he can - is it the point of music? By the way, even if all the others play that fast they may be wrong! And on the guitar there is a point beyond which you can't articulate anymore. Listen to minute 2:10 to 2:30 for an instance.
Perfectly valid and nice argument. However, given that the people i mentioned have basically played ALL the works of back (koopman and harnoncourt) I dunno, maybe they know more about it than lets say other instrumentalists right? I tend not to see performances for "seconds" or moments, but as a whole..and I think at this tempo the harmonic movement is more coherent, but its all a matter of taste and opinion, thanks for posting :)
Thanks for your reply. My tastes are a mix from "old school" and baroque interpretation, as my teacher worked with Celibidache but also with Dechaume, a pioneer of baroque interpretation conform as to tempos, articulation etc.
Anyway this "prelude" is a mystery for a lot of presons. How can you play the whole suite after you've showed your skills on the prelude? Normally, you're drained (no matter what instrument you play).
An interesting fact of youtube is the trend in which the viewer adopts the "most accepted view"- when comments are positive, thats the trend and viceversa.
Great talent like this creates extreme opinions on both the positive and negative realms, its life's nature. Bach himself transcribed this prelude for chamber ensemble, organ, harpsichord, violin and lute. The fact that all the major artists in those instruments play it with roughly this tempo and articulation is my argument, whats yours?
he play fantastic with great sound and undertanding of bach, but for my test is a little fasted, i like very much for bach, carlos perez and piray vaca, but i like veri much this new grat pleyers check to the grat aniello desiderio for italian music.
Really nice! One of two versions I've heard at this speed, the other being Ana Vidovic. I prefer this one. The guitar has a much nicer tone. What Make is it?
For those that consider it too fast, well...two of the greatest violinists in HISTORY play it at the same tempo. Be happy the guitar can now do it too.
A guitar is not a violin. It is not meant to sound like a violin. It was not made to play as fast as a violin and IMHO does not sound so great when being played so fast (for this piece).
WOW,WOW....I have to start with your whole name...RafaelAguirre,,,when any musician aproach to that level,has to be consider another genius,like John Williams ,Cristopher Parkening,Kaori Muraji,and many more,my respect
Estimado guitalvaro, cuando estarán disponibles mas videos del maestro (siempre que él lo permita)? En lo que pude escucharle, tiene algo parecido a Russell, que Rafa también hace versiones superlativas de lo que toca!!!
Tengo un par de videos de el que pronto subire. Lastima que me robaron la camara con toda la sonata 3 de ponce y la final con el concierto de aranjuez, fue increible. Rafa es otra cosa, si pueden compren su disco de naxos que esta recibiendo muy buenas criticas internacionales!!
No, he won with Aranjuez concerto in the final round, but all his interpretations in the differents rounds of the competition were importants for the final result.
mmmm va demasiado rapido.. no es lucirse. es ser un músico, si hace bonitos vibratos y lo que quieran pero.. bueno, es mi punto de vista. despues de todo el arte es algo tan abstracto. y nada esta bien hecho o mal hecho. en gustos de rompen generos. una cosa es musica y otra es ruiditos sonando a alta velocidad.
Todo el mundo que critica la velocidad de la pieza son unos envidiosos. Asi nunca llevaremos la guitarra a lo más alto. Más estudiar y menos criticar. Hay que reconocer que es impresionante tanto MUSICALMENTE como TECNICAMENTE.
damn again...why you dont listent to the CANTATA BWV 29¿?¿? It´s here in youtube. Just put in "search" cantata 29 and you will listent to the ORCHESTAL version! After that, come here to tell me if Rafael plays it so fast.
, this piece is actually very hard, y tried to play it myself, and i asure you all: THAT IS WAY TOO FAST!!, in my opinion is the best version i've ever heard, the dinamics and the hability, and the clean sound, this guy is amazing, just look at his fingering!!....(that's the reason he won that contest you idiots, beauty can be expressed in many ways)
, this piece is actually very hard, y tried to play it myself, and i asure you all: THAT IS WAY TOO FAST!!, in my opinion is the best version i've ever heard, the dinamics and the hability, and the clean sound, this guy is amazing, just look at his fingering!!....(that's the reason he won that contest you idiots, beauty can be expressed in many ways)
implacable, imbatible, y superlativo. Este es el guitarrista del momento, y está en su momento, ya llegaran otros, pero Rafael es muy completo. Creo que la guitarra no va a avanzar si nos ponemos a hacer críticas destructivas respecto a la habilidad de alguien. Estamos llegando al punto en que la velocidad se da por descartada, como en el violín o el piano, donde es un recurso mas bien de dinámica. Apoyemos a nuestros colegas sin envidia!
I Agree. This speed ruined the piece in Rafael's case. However it could be a good tempo for a real Master.
Mr. Glenn Gould have had verified his extreme tempos many times. Mr. Aguirre did not choose the right tempo for himself. The good thing is though ,that once he started ,he kept te tempo throughout the piece.
I'm not a huge fan of the Williams and the Segovia version neither.This one is Impressive tour the force though.
so, If Rafa plays this slower, would be musical for you? without dynamics and without articulations as John Willliams??.....that people say that is the "best" version.
Es una maravilla...te felicito , cuando se establece esta diferencia tan increíble entre lo normal y lo sobrenatural es difícil establecer comparaciones musicales.Me alegra saber que en la guitarra clásica podemos evolucionar (deberíamos tener claro la gran diferencia que ha habido siempre con la evolución artística de otros instrumentos) y muestra de ello es este vídeo. gracias
Envy is very bad. Rafael Aguirre is undoubtedly one of the biggest promises of the classical guitar in the world. The winner of Norba 2007, Arcas 2007, Roma 2007 and Tárrega 2007 uffffff fantastic. pshhhh Silence, the teacher is playing.
This guy has just won the Jacinto e Inocencio Guerrero Competition in Toledo Spain. One of the most important competitions around the world. And about his velocity, I see that you haven´t seen videos of NATHAN MILSTEIN (violinist) playing this prelude. Why always say "Segovia said..Williams played..." and never talk about important violinist that play so much better good that Segovia and Williams at the same time???
Is this normal speed range? when kinda too fast one think good in bach could see whole frame patterns easily understanderble. could any body can tell 998-allegro and this which is technically difficult esp for left hand
I usually never leave other than positive comments to guitar players here. But now I made an exception, I feel it is unacceptable for someone who is technically flawless like you, to totally disregard the music. Try to listen to it a bit. Sacrifice a little speed for some effort in interpretation, it will reward you manyfold.
Great technique man! You have 'supercharged' fingers. But it seems you wanted to get through this prelude as fast as possible no matter the cost. You look up some Segovia teaching videos here on utube. He was toughest with non-musical students. And he had 0 tolerance for them when their interpretation was not musical, no matter if it was technically flawless.
This guitarist won a competition which shares a place with the GFA as the most prestigious classical guitar competition in the entire world, and you think you're in a position to give him advice? Something tells me he's thought about this a lot more than you have.
creo que algunos comentarios subidos de tono no tienen nada que ver, puede que no sea la mejor version y que le falten cosas pero lo que hace este chico es impresionante yo le mando un saludo por tocar asi jaja chau
IMPRESIONANTE tanto tecnica como musicalmente. Ya le gustaria a alguno de los que critican tocar la mitad que Rafa. ENHORABUENA por el año que llevas.
This performance is quite impressive technically. However, musically speaking, it sounds very much like a poor imitation of Ana Vidovic's interpretation on her early CD. And, to say that Williams is horrible is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I suppose next you'll say that Manuel Barrueco is a terrible player too.
This performance is more better than William´s perfomance of course. Imitation of Ana Vidovic´s JAJAJA. Vete a cagar neng, Rafa eres el puto amo como dice uno mas abajo, el PUUUUUTO AMO SIGUE ASI DIOS.!
la velocidad es muy buena y la tecnica es buena, pero la interpretacion y el sentimiento de la musica clasica donde queda, la interpretacion de john williams es fantastica.
LOL. I can hear the A string ringing out over the final bass E. This is amazing playing but there is a lot of ego flying around at this tempo. A lot of guitar playing going on.
Hahaha, creelo o no tengo a rafa tocando la star wars suite cuando estuvimos en paris este verano. Felicitaciones por el arreglo tio, cuando lo toco por primera vez casi me orino de risa! que maestro eres. Me gustaria obtener el arreglo si no te importa, mandame un privado y ahi hablamos.
ezequiel esas confundido si pensas que tenes que tener ese nivel para criticar es una idiotes si no criticas a pesar de que este por encima tuyo nunca vas a poder avanzar en nada muy linda version pero le falta algo ajajaj no se que sera tal vez abria que escucharlo en concierto de no concurso
You answered yourself in the second part of your message and don't deserve more words even because it would be like talking to a wall...guitargod (LOOOOL why don't YOU show us something more than useless words?)
la velocidad es enemiga de los recentos que no pueden tocar como vos porque no es solo velocidad sino que tenes precision y sostenes la obra nunca se te cae por cansansio eso es extremadamente dificil antes de criticar que exponga sus videos y digan asi se debe tocar esto vos con tu edad tocando asi sos un verdadero prodigio segui adelante que vas estar entre los primeros
You just missed the whole point! Music and art have absolutelly nothing to do with racing, because inspiration in music happens when there is no trace of racing.
And I've heard many splendid pieces of Rafa. But in this one he was either extremely pissed off that day (hopefully) or else he also misses. There is no music in this interpretation. I believe his fault as a splendid guitarist technically, is even greater for acting this way.
If Francisco Tarrega had heard this I guarantee he would not be impressed. Do not forget he was the man who composed the Recuerdos. And a composer with an inspiration like his would remain cold to an aggitated ennumeration of notes played without expression. But Jesus was also crucified following different viewpoints of the semidocts of the synagogue. Ironical, isn't it.
"La velocidad es enemiga de la Emoción" (Emilio Pujol) ¿Que hay detrás de una interpretación así? El ego del intérprete por ser el mejor, y ser el mejor es incompatible con ser músico.
Y no es músico???? No hay emoción en esta interpretación???? Me retiro pues........... Escuchaste el resto de sus videos???...... Tedesco...... Alucinante!!!
for starters John doesn't playing a perfect 4th at the end of this prelude!! It says a lot about an interpretation when the last note is hammered so much as to knock the A string flying.
BUt you can't compare two different instruments. The violin has only one note to play. There are no bass notes. The guitar is like a litlle orchesta and has many voices. If they come so fast togheter you can not understand all the notes at the same time.
I would reccomend hearing the CANTATA version (which bach arranged himself), in which this same piece is interpreted by an entire orchestra with an organ. Your opinion might change after that. Its the opening of the cantata no. 29.
This is too fast for many a violinist. We have to stop making this kind of silly comparison and judge the performance for what it is in itself. Ok, violins are generally faster, so what?
To my ears, this is coherent, lively, but a bit mechanical, poor in sound, previsible in phrasing and lacking the extasy the music asks for. With all respect for the enormous amount of work taken to play this way.
I think people need to listen more to the violin version (or even better, the harpsichord or cantata version of the piece). Guitarists usually take it too slow because of its difficulty (specially on the B section) but the speed is the same any violinist would take it. They have plenty videos on youtube of that.
hey, if someone can plkay a guitar at least remotely as musical as a violin, I would have no problem. But he forgot it had to be musical. Instead of competing w/ guitarists he competed with record Rubik's Cube solvers on this one. Again, there is no Music! here. This was not a Rubik's Cube to be solved in a record time. There is no message from Bach in this piece, it is just a caricature!
Far too fast for the guitar. Sounds a bit hysterical. Good clean fingers though. A modern competition winner. Nice a shade slower on the violin.
langsidedrive 1 month ago
Great player. Super fingers. Not musical at this tempo on guitar. poor judgement. Speed kills it. A bit faster than a good violin version.
For a guitarist, far too fast. I don't like it, but hey, all the best. He won a big competition... bigger, better, faster. Still, he is young...
Many like it. Cheers.
langsidedrive 1 month ago
@langsidedrive I am curious, which violin version you refer to. All the ones I personally have found that appeal to my taste, have exactly the same duration: Milstein, Heifetz, Fischer, etc.
guitalvaro 3 hours ago
what a cheap crowd.
TheKandjar 3 months ago
the only bad thing about your version is the poor applause.:( incredibly well-played
petersgsicht 4 months ago
Too fast!!!
ReverendoJohn 4 months ago in playlist Bach prelude
This is the most amazing performance since the days of Christopher Parkening.
ToneDeafecation 5 months ago
mmm tiene muy buena técnica como para tocar así de rápido esta obra , pero lamentablemente no me gusta como suena no se entiende casi nada no ce donde quiere llegar tocando así de rápido ya que lo que importa es la interpretación eh escuchado versiones mil veces mejor que esta , por lo menos la mejor versión que eh escuchado es la de el sr. Carlos Perez
ivanlennon00 6 months ago
I was waiting for the sonic boom any moment.
StringSymmetry 7 months ago
If you ask me this tempo is a little bit rushed. It sounds better when the tempo is normal(like John Williams version). But very good job.
lukicaa2ked 7 months ago
Whoa... he actually was a collegue of mine... Great performance Rafael!
manolly 7 months ago
I think at this tempo , this piece is so much livelier. I just don't see why people slam musicians for playing something fast. This is really good rendition.
sowhat123 9 months ago
me gusta que esta pieza se toque mucho mas lento, pero quejarme de la velocidad creo que serían celos del talento de este gran guitarrista :)
xXxGoyexXx 9 months ago
too fast and none of the Dynamics Bach wrote into the piece....people call John Williams robotic....
fraterpine 9 months ago
@fraterpine Would you please name the dynamics Bach wrote on the piece? Please cite the Urtext edition you are using.
guitalvaro 3 hours ago
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MrArdelco1970 10 months ago
to slow
ftryew 1 year ago 6
Estimado, hay alguna version que nos recomiende oir que represente y recree vuestro ideal estetico?. Quisiera oirla y asi poder obtener un diagnostico. Quiero saber si me aqueja aquella enfermedad social que ud menciona.
dadavidvid 1 year ago
Estimado, hay alguna version que nos recomiende oir que represente y recree vuestro ideal estetico?.
dadavidvid 1 year ago
@dadavidvid Querido David. No fue mi intencion ofender a nadie, y me parece extraordinaria tu intencion de ir mas alla de nuestro instrumento, cosa que ademas de inteligente me parece absolutamente logica.
Yo escucharia a Nikolaus Harnoncourt dirigiendo la Sinfonia BWV 29, que es la version orquestal de este preludio, que el propio Bach arreglo. Tambien oiria a Nathan Milstein (esta en youtube) y a Gustav Leonhardt (si lo puedes conseguir).
Un gran abrazo
guitalvaro 10 months ago
Wow... So fast and very musical. . . Amazing. . .
Fabmayer1 1 year ago
well.... that is fast playing ! But i don't think its very musical at this speed.
eccleshall 1 year ago 5
At this tempo,The Ghost harmonics reveal themselves.
elbowout 1 year ago
@elbowout eh, if they're ghosts all u gotta do is call the ghostbusters.
don't be hating!
DaGuittarMan 1 year ago
Puede gustar o no pero es impresionante, realmente impresionante! adriano del sal
tomatitodelsal 1 year ago 2
so beautifull and perfec, brava
sdfug7j098u 1 year ago 3
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albatross111 1 year ago
It' s the same old argument I've heard a thousand times before. How fast to play Bach? I've heard it played at all different speeds and i personally think he plays a little too fast on this piece, but it still sounds good. There are so many versions out there, that if you don't like it pick another one. I don't think anyone plays Bach like goran sollscher. But rafael is coming to portland soon and I can't wait too see him perform.
archlutesmith 1 year ago
Very very nice!! How fast!! (TS)
kei19690113 1 year ago
es la mejor version qe eh escuchado de este preludio
espero algun dia poder tocarla asi de rapido, clara y con esa interpretacion :)
y ademas como me gustaria escucharte interpretar la de gavote en rondeao de esa misma obra :D
Skyvvards 1 year ago 2
Banal and tasteless ? No. Bach in the 21st Century ? Yes. After all, there are only so many ways of playing this piece traditionally so hats off to someone who gives it new life. Bravo.
pissedinperu 1 year ago 3
Thank you for posting this video, I've been aspiring to play this piece, it really sounds great and RIGHT to play on this tempo.
FrancisArief 2 years ago 5
In this video barenboim says urtext:
"There are only 3 factors that affect the election of tempo in a piece: Harmony, Rythm and Melody.
out of the three harmony has the ability to influence much more, you can have 10000 rythms but if the harmony doesnt move they sound still, and when the harmony moves, it creates another rhythm. Harmony also creates melodies, therefore its the most important factor for choosing a tempo"
If anybody here feels they know more than Barenboim please complain :)
guitalvaro 2 years ago
Theres a video of Barenboim having a masterclass with the West-East divan orchestra in which he talks about Tempo called: The school of the ear.
Youtube it...and LEARN.
p.d. Rafael's brother is playing the violin there :)
guitalvaro 2 years ago
@guitalvaro you may decide you have something to learn too from that and aother great musicians (if they really are).
But most important and adviceable thing to learn is thinking with oneself own mind and listen with oneself own ears.
Hiding back someone's else words isn't a convicing argument to me.
KidaReborn 1 year ago
@KidaReborn For me its still a better argument than saying "my name is "kidareborn" and I know just because i know."
When you record the houndreds of cd's and spend the years analyzing and studiyng music, conducting the Chicago Symphony, the orchestra of paris while mantaining an active piano carreer for FIFTY YEARS then you are entitled to even begin to argue if barenboim is really "a good musician". These spoiled "i know it all kids" nowadays..pisses me off.
guitalvaro 1 year ago
wow incredible speed, bravo, but for the music, it's too fast
JEROMEVALLOT 2 years ago
I totally agree with you. I doubt that Bach wrote the piece for guitar virtuosos.. :-) playing this beautiful piece of music (an adaptation, it is useful to remember, from the Violin partita) at this speed renders the piece itself banal and tasteless. Aguirre is an amazing guitar player, precise and with a clean sound. But his reading of this Bach's masterpiece is meaningless. Just listen to what John Williams is able to create on the same work....
Kurwenal 1 year ago
You mention its useful to remember that its a transcription from a violin partita.
Please type either Nathan Milstein, Jascha Heifetz or any other violinist in the youtube searchbox, LISTEN to it, and then comment again :) .
Thanks
guitalvaro 1 year ago 5
@guitalvaro
Nailed!
mku17ra 1 year ago
@guitalvaro yes, a transcription that bach himself did for the lute. If you listen to any of the modern day common practice musicians you'll find that it's not supposed to be anywhere near this speed.
thejugglenaut91 1 year ago
@thejugglenaut91 You mean common practice musicians such as Nikolaus Harnoncourt (teacher of Rafael's Teacher) or Ton Koopman? Both of who recorded this prelude in its cantata version at the same speed. There. In your face :)
guitalvaro 1 year ago
@guitalvaro
But this is transcription for lute not for guitar!
You have to remember that lute was a gentle instrument in those days and the strigns probley were very soft so it was impossible to play so fast like that!
Also in violin it should be so fast beacuse in that way its sound like polyphony.
Hear David Russell prefomence its AMAZING
In my opininoin, this speed is amazing!
But in this speed he misses all the polyphony and we can't hear the diffrents bettwen the voices.
yuvalll35 1 year ago
one coffee is Ok, 2 coffees no problem, 3 coffees is a little too much... but 10 coffees its waaay too much
niklebiz 2 years ago
Brilliant interpretation!
p2nches 2 years ago 9
Way fast to mel
barefootdesigns 2 years ago
sheet music anyone???
xpaulxtyronex 2 years ago
dude, you're a machine! :)
That must be the fastest tempo that I've heard that piece.
You're on hyperspeed...this piece sounds amazing at a slower tempo too.
flaegin 2 years ago
My argument is that playing that fast we just can't follow the music. He just plays a certain number of notes the faster he can - is it the point of music? By the way, even if all the others play that fast they may be wrong! And on the guitar there is a point beyond which you can't articulate anymore. Listen to minute 2:10 to 2:30 for an instance.
nicoguitar78 2 years ago
Perfectly valid and nice argument. However, given that the people i mentioned have basically played ALL the works of back (koopman and harnoncourt) I dunno, maybe they know more about it than lets say other instrumentalists right? I tend not to see performances for "seconds" or moments, but as a whole..and I think at this tempo the harmonic movement is more coherent, but its all a matter of taste and opinion, thanks for posting :)
guitalvaro 2 years ago
Thanks for your reply. My tastes are a mix from "old school" and baroque interpretation, as my teacher worked with Celibidache but also with Dechaume, a pioneer of baroque interpretation conform as to tempos, articulation etc.
Anyway this "prelude" is a mystery for a lot of presons. How can you play the whole suite after you've showed your skills on the prelude? Normally, you're drained (no matter what instrument you play).
nicoguitar78 2 years ago
it's amazing how clean he plays it at this tempo. wow. i'm totally impressed. what talent! my only complaint is the cameraman....
gurshark 2 years ago 17
I agree, but it is way too fast. In this tempo the soul of the piece is gone.
DirkPovel 2 years ago
yeah it's making me seasick....
flaegin 2 years ago
Realmente excelente !!!
dulcidionico 2 years ago 7
An interesting fact of youtube is the trend in which the viewer adopts the "most accepted view"- when comments are positive, thats the trend and viceversa.
Great talent like this creates extreme opinions on both the positive and negative realms, its life's nature. Bach himself transcribed this prelude for chamber ensemble, organ, harpsichord, violin and lute. The fact that all the major artists in those instruments play it with roughly this tempo and articulation is my argument, whats yours?
guitalvaro 2 years ago
No se puede saborear cada nota,es una loca carrera hacia el final como si alguien estuviera apuntando con un arma.
dcwetern 2 years ago
Que equivocado estas.
Comingessp 2 years ago
eso no es algo generalizado solo en algunas partes,, esq al subirse al escenario a veces uno se olvida d q la tecnica va antes del virtuosismo
FLAMENCO961 2 years ago
he's impressive because he can play it very fast which is very difficult to do but i prefer john williams version..
ruel9 2 years ago
his koyonbaba is much beter then john williams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alvaro wie gehts cabron?. Mircea hat mir erzaehlt, was euch getan wurde. es ist ja scheisse, was sie gemacht haben!
aber trotzdem, ich freue mich darauf dich hier wieder zu sehen!
bis bald!
LG
Dani
schatzdaniel 2 years ago 3
This is phenomenal. I know the standard tempo is around 96 bpm, but I'm really impressed with this faster tempo. Bravo Rafael.
guitarrob64 2 years ago
Very (too!) fast !
CalawynPineur 2 years ago 4
he play fantastic with great sound and undertanding of bach, but for my test is a little fasted, i like very much for bach, carlos perez and piray vaca, but i like veri much this new grat pleyers check to the grat aniello desiderio for italian music.
quijanoart2001 2 years ago
Very fast!
Have you every heard this piece with steelstring, If you like to hear check my videos.
Greetings
Joachim
JoJoVi11111 2 years ago
limpísima ejecución a un trepidante ritmo...gracias por la clase¡¡jeje...muy buen sonido el de esa guitarra...
riscalvo 2 years ago 3
did u win the competition?? you deserve it
meshkat19 2 years ago
Really nice! One of two versions I've heard at this speed, the other being Ana Vidovic. I prefer this one. The guitar has a much nicer tone. What Make is it?
skingaz 3 years ago
Gnatek, 2004. Australian builder.
guitalvaro 3 years ago
Amazing. Thanks for the music.
Have you ever heard this piece on steelstring guitar. If you like to, check my videos or shearch for Pal Paulikovics. Greetings from Germany
JoJoVi11111 3 years ago
amazing tempo!!!!!!
lalodiaz 3 years ago 3
Just check this out:
Jascha Heifetz: 3:13
Nathan Milstein: 3:13
Rafael Aguirre: 3:13
For those that consider it too fast, well...two of the greatest violinists in HISTORY play it at the same tempo. Be happy the guitar can now do it too.
guitalvaro 3 years ago
A guitar is not a violin. It is not meant to sound like a violin. It was not made to play as fast as a violin and IMHO does not sound so great when being played so fast (for this piece).
pogotorso 2 years ago
This is totally my opinion but few peole play this piece with any balls. This guy has balls. Two thumbs up.
ChitarNone 3 years ago
Almost a full minute faster than John Williams.
Very impressive skill. Do you think it is in good taste to play at that tempo?
bryan2j 3 years ago 2
Amazingly fast and stable but some detail is lost and this makes the piece poorer. Still, 5 starts.
AkiraBergman 3 years ago
WOW,WOW....I have to start with your whole name...RafaelAguirre,,,when any musician aproach to that level,has to be consider another genius,like John Williams ,Cristopher Parkening,Kaori Muraji,and many more,my respect
arpegio14 3 years ago
too fast, bach is not chopin
Stuggibullshit 3 years ago
I thought that nobody can play this faster than Ana Vidovic. He does it (maybe a little too fast). But nevertheless, an awesome performance!
Curatica 3 years ago
Estimado guitalvaro, cuando estarán disponibles mas videos del maestro (siempre que él lo permita)? En lo que pude escucharle, tiene algo parecido a Russell, que Rafa también hace versiones superlativas de lo que toca!!!
raulrolonguitar 3 years ago
Tengo un par de videos de el que pronto subire. Lastima que me robaron la camara con toda la sonata 3 de ponce y la final con el concierto de aranjuez, fue increible. Rafa es otra cosa, si pueden compren su disco de naxos que esta recibiendo muy buenas criticas internacionales!!
guitalvaro 3 years ago
Una lastima lo de la camara!! Ciertamente Rafael es bastante completo, yo le vi tocar en el Julian Arcas de este año, y quedé pasmado :)
raulrolonguitar 3 years ago
did he win with this piece?
Respectthewilderness 3 years ago
yes
AleksGuitar07 3 years ago
No, he won with Aranjuez concerto in the final round, but all his interpretations in the differents rounds of the competition were importants for the final result.
Gusk20 3 years ago
That was amazing! Hands of lightning!
goldenlabrador1288 3 years ago 5
genio Rafael!! saludos desde Argentina
toquecorno9 3 years ago 8
mmmm va demasiado rapido.. no es lucirse. es ser un músico, si hace bonitos vibratos y lo que quieran pero.. bueno, es mi punto de vista. despues de todo el arte es algo tan abstracto. y nada esta bien hecho o mal hecho. en gustos de rompen generos. una cosa es musica y otra es ruiditos sonando a alta velocidad.
loadermen 3 years ago
Best version since the old school parkening recording.
2HamSandwiches 3 years ago 11
Fantastic, it´s the real speed, fantastic. Rafael Aguirre you are the best.
Una mierda para todos los que le critican como el sombrero de un picador.
Sitoxsp 3 years ago 6
Please! All people, listen to the Cantata 29:
/watch?v=N04sYD2RWhg
Gusk20 3 years ago
Todo el mundo que critica la velocidad de la pieza son unos envidiosos. Asi nunca llevaremos la guitarra a lo más alto. Más estudiar y menos criticar. Hay que reconocer que es impresionante tanto MUSICALMENTE como TECNICAMENTE.
errisi 3 years ago 5
Too fast, very good otherwise.
ShawnTMills 3 years ago
impresionante, pero porque apagas la nota final asi????
que afan tenias de ir al camerino?????
demasiado bueno, pero demasiado acelerado
marcellseasky 3 years ago
Too fast. No feeling.
merezi 3 years ago
damn again...why you dont listent to the CANTATA BWV 29¿?¿? It´s here in youtube. Just put in "search" cantata 29 and you will listent to the ORCHESTAL version! After that, come here to tell me if Rafael plays it so fast.
Gusk20 3 years ago 2
Y donde quedo el barroco?????mucha tecnica,mucha velocidad, pero esto no esta tocado como deveria ser......
elcaca2008 3 years ago
y cómo debería ser? oye mas oberturas barrocas hombre! polifonía, armonía, contrapunto! eso es lo que se oye en el barroco y en este preludio.
Gusk20 3 years ago
Mira mas videos de Rafael, el puede ser y hacer lo que quiera en cada momento. Esto es asi. ¿quien lo hace?. Pues rafa, no hay otro.
Sitoxsp 3 years ago 4
escucha más música, y lee más libros que deBería se escribe con B de burro
errisi 3 years ago 3
ok after watching this how am i
supposed to touch my guitar...
perfect
rpgpunx 3 years ago
Cuñaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
YRROSORRY 3 years ago 3
wow his so good! I herd him play live, he plays Koyombaba the best!
;-)
Cuñaooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
YRROSORRY 3 years ago
Wow; the guy was playing like he had a plane to catch.
A little fast, but truly gifted playing.
In my humble opinion, he actually showed more feeling than Williams.
buzzzz7777 3 years ago 2
yup i agree :)
Streetear 3 years ago
, this piece is actually very hard, y tried to play it myself, and i asure you all: THAT IS WAY TOO FAST!!, in my opinion is the best version i've ever heard, the dinamics and the hability, and the clean sound, this guy is amazing, just look at his fingering!!....(that's the reason he won that contest you idiots, beauty can be expressed in many ways)
jjuan54 3 years ago 2
, this piece is actually very hard, y tried to play it myself, and i asure you all: THAT IS WAY TOO FAST!!, in my opinion is the best version i've ever heard, the dinamics and the hability, and the clean sound, this guy is amazing, just look at his fingering!!....(that's the reason he won that contest you idiots, beauty can be expressed in many ways)
jjuan54 3 years ago
creo q se le fué la mano un poco con la velocidad...
Aligator57 3 years ago
that's just too fast, music is not about technique, it's about feeling
yangmagic0703 3 years ago 3
I can write for you any sheet music
musictranscription 3 years ago
bravoooooo
megustamucholamusica 3 years ago 2
implacable, imbatible, y superlativo. Este es el guitarrista del momento, y está en su momento, ya llegaran otros, pero Rafael es muy completo. Creo que la guitarra no va a avanzar si nos ponemos a hacer críticas destructivas respecto a la habilidad de alguien. Estamos llegando al punto en que la velocidad se da por descartada, como en el violín o el piano, donde es un recurso mas bien de dinámica. Apoyemos a nuestros colegas sin envidia!
raulrolonguitar 4 years ago 4
I think the speed is just right!
dfnvksdvnvsdkvn 4 years ago
I Agree. This speed ruined the piece in Rafael's case. However it could be a good tempo for a real Master.
Mr. Glenn Gould have had verified his extreme tempos many times. Mr. Aguirre did not choose the right tempo for himself. The good thing is though ,that once he started ,he kept te tempo throughout the piece.
I'm not a huge fan of the Williams and the Segovia version neither.This one is Impressive tour the force though.
gerkov77 4 years ago
amazing. just wow.
Kabukibear83 4 years ago
so, If Rafa plays this slower, would be musical for you? without dynamics and without articulations as John Willliams??.....that people say that is the "best" version.
Gusk20 4 years ago
Who says Williams' is the best version. I don't but I still find this way too fast.
LutenistDeMari 3 years ago
uuuffffffffff
cgpucv 4 years ago
Es una maravilla...te felicito , cuando se establece esta diferencia tan increíble entre lo normal y lo sobrenatural es difícil establecer comparaciones musicales.Me alegra saber que en la guitarra clásica podemos evolucionar (deberíamos tener claro la gran diferencia que ha habido siempre con la evolución artística de otros instrumentos) y muestra de ello es este vídeo. gracias
viejosaires 4 years ago
He wants to play it at this tempo and is coherent. Just listen to his interpretation.
leomulder 4 years ago
It's impressive! But I wouldn't say I like it though... Too fast to be enjoyable. For me anyways... But very brilliant!
Respect,
Per
AndanteLargo 4 years ago 6
Yeah! this is a great performance!
fortini1977 4 years ago
The version of Williams is horrible, not Williams...
Sitoxsp 4 years ago
Envy is very bad. Rafael Aguirre is undoubtedly one of the biggest promises of the classical guitar in the world. The winner of Norba 2007, Arcas 2007, Roma 2007 and Tárrega 2007 uffffff fantastic. pshhhh Silence, the teacher is playing.
Sitoxsp 4 years ago
This guy has just won the Jacinto e Inocencio Guerrero Competition in Toledo Spain. One of the most important competitions around the world. And about his velocity, I see that you haven´t seen videos of NATHAN MILSTEIN (violinist) playing this prelude. Why always say "Segovia said..Williams played..." and never talk about important violinist that play so much better good that Segovia and Williams at the same time???
Gusk20 4 years ago
This is Bach, not Paganini!!!
classe1A 4 years ago
Is this normal speed range? when kinda too fast one think good in bach could see whole frame patterns easily understanderble. could any body can tell 998-allegro and this which is technically difficult esp for left hand
naturanaturans 4 years ago
I usually never leave other than positive comments to guitar players here. But now I made an exception, I feel it is unacceptable for someone who is technically flawless like you, to totally disregard the music. Try to listen to it a bit. Sacrifice a little speed for some effort in interpretation, it will reward you manyfold.
Alpha7000 4 years ago
Great technique man! You have 'supercharged' fingers. But it seems you wanted to get through this prelude as fast as possible no matter the cost. You look up some Segovia teaching videos here on utube. He was toughest with non-musical students. And he had 0 tolerance for them when their interpretation was not musical, no matter if it was technically flawless.
Alpha7000 4 years ago
This guitarist won a competition which shares a place with the GFA as the most prestigious classical guitar competition in the entire world, and you think you're in a position to give him advice? Something tells me he's thought about this a lot more than you have.
Also, this video wasn't posted by the artist.
capnpayne 3 years ago 7
rafael is the best :)
5stars
AleksGuitar07 3 years ago 8
os aconsejo que veáis un vídeo de Nathan Milstein tocando este mismo preludio...
Gusk20 4 years ago
SE APURA ,PERO TIENE DEDO NADA MAS
435439 4 years ago
totally awesome
didn't know guitar could be this kool
crschang1985 4 years ago
creo que algunos comentarios subidos de tono no tienen nada que ver, puede que no sea la mejor version y que le falten cosas pero lo que hace este chico es impresionante yo le mando un saludo por tocar asi jaja chau
crucificado79 4 years ago
IMPRESIONANTE tanto tecnica como musicalmente. Ya le gustaria a alguno de los que critican tocar la mitad que Rafa. ENHORABUENA por el año que llevas.
guitarbaroque 4 years ago
The winner of Norba 2007, Arcas 2007, Roma 2007 and Tárrega 2007 uffffff fantastic.
Sitoxsp 4 years ago
This performance is quite impressive technically. However, musically speaking, it sounds very much like a poor imitation of Ana Vidovic's interpretation on her early CD. And, to say that Williams is horrible is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I suppose next you'll say that Manuel Barrueco is a terrible player too.
alainca99 4 years ago
This performance is more better than William´s perfomance of course. Imitation of Ana Vidovic´s JAJAJA. Vete a cagar neng, Rafa eres el puto amo como dice uno mas abajo, el PUUUUUTO AMO SIGUE ASI DIOS.!
rfr1984b 4 years ago
The winner of Norba 2007, Arcas 2007, Roma 2007 and Tárrega 2007 uffffff fantastic. pshhhh
Sitoxsp 4 years ago
Nice your interpretation of silence of the deads.
The language you use and the things you say to argument just tell what a great artist and what an incredible poet you are.
Sorry, i have no more time for you.
Byez ;)
KidaReborn 4 years ago
la velocidad es muy buena y la tecnica es buena, pero la interpretacion y el sentimiento de la musica clasica donde queda, la interpretacion de john williams es fantastica.
OSWALDOHARRY 4 years ago
LOL. I can hear the A string ringing out over the final bass E. This is amazing playing but there is a lot of ego flying around at this tempo. A lot of guitar playing going on.
ThisDream 4 years ago
La cuestión es "donde es más cómodo escuchar estas velocidades estratosféricas?: violín o guitarra?
Las citas de Pujol no me molan, me molan mas las mias:
"Una vez que puedes... Correr o no correr, esa es la cuestión..." (Yo mismo)
FARRAAAA SUBE AL YOUTUBE LA STAR WARS SUITEEE!!! y me das propaganda :D
zalu2
XzELsO 4 years ago
WENAAA!!!
has "parido" un preludio de puta madre :D en la muestra de jóvenes hace 6 años op por ahí lo hacías mas lento!! (a alguno le gustaría mas)
y me parece q no es caualidad que este tempo acrobático que has utilizado sea el mismo que el q usa Hilary Hahn en su disco
"Hilary Hahn plays Bach"
XzELsO 4 years ago
hola XzELsO!!
Hahaha, creelo o no tengo a rafa tocando la star wars suite cuando estuvimos en paris este verano. Felicitaciones por el arreglo tio, cuando lo toco por primera vez casi me orino de risa! que maestro eres. Me gustaria obtener el arreglo si no te importa, mandame un privado y ahi hablamos.
un abrazo
Alvaro
guitalvaro 4 years ago
hable con el ayer!! y me comentó q lo habias grabado
QUIERO ORILO YA!! me dijo q
XzELsO 4 years ago
hable con el ayer!! y me comentó q lo habias grabado
QUIERO ORILO YA!! me dijo q me pasaras por mail lo q grabásteis :D Te escribí un mensaje privado, y te di mi mail creo recordar.
Estamos en contacto!!
(perdón por el mensaje repetido... :(
XzELsO 4 years ago
ezequiel esas confundido si pensas que tenes que tener ese nivel para criticar es una idiotes si no criticas a pesar de que este por encima tuyo nunca vas a poder avanzar en nada muy linda version pero le falta algo ajajaj no se que sera tal vez abria que escucharlo en concierto de no concurso
crucificado79 4 years ago
You answered yourself in the second part of your message and don't deserve more words even because it would be like talking to a wall...guitargod (LOOOOL why don't YOU show us something more than useless words?)
KidaReborn 4 years ago
la velocidad es enemiga de los recentos que no pueden tocar como vos porque no es solo velocidad sino que tenes precision y sostenes la obra nunca se te cae por cansansio eso es extremadamente dificil antes de criticar que exponga sus videos y digan asi se debe tocar esto vos con tu edad tocando asi sos un verdadero prodigio segui adelante que vas estar entre los primeros
eezequiel1 4 years ago
So fucking Funny how all those who write "you must play before you talk" have uploaded no videos at all.
Lol.
KidaReborn 4 years ago
I don't like this interpretation.
Moreover it's sad how many people don't seem to hear music with the ears anymore, but prefer to look at hypertecnic execution.
I expect a lot more from Spain wich i know has a big big heart for music.
KidaReborn 4 years ago 2
he won the public prize too!!!!! ERES EL PUTO AMO TIO!!!!
Gusk20 4 years ago
What a shame that music and art have nothing to do with races and competition!
KidaReborn 4 years ago
You just missed the whole point! Music and art have absolutelly nothing to do with racing, because inspiration in music happens when there is no trace of racing.
And I've heard many splendid pieces of Rafa. But in this one he was either extremely pissed off that day (hopefully) or else he also misses. There is no music in this interpretation. I believe his fault as a splendid guitarist technically, is even greater for acting this way.
bamby1969 4 years ago
this guy has just won the first prize in Francisco Tárrega International Competition-Benicássim!!!!!
Gusk20 4 years ago
which, by the way, is the most important guitar competition in the world! WE ARE PROUD OF YOU RAFA!!! ERES LA LECHE TIO!!!!!
guitalvaro 4 years ago
I would have thought the GFA is just as important surely?
ThisDream 4 years ago
If Francisco Tarrega had heard this I guarantee he would not be impressed. Do not forget he was the man who composed the Recuerdos. And a composer with an inspiration like his would remain cold to an aggitated ennumeration of notes played without expression. But Jesus was also crucified following different viewpoints of the semidocts of the synagogue. Ironical, isn't it.
bamby1969 4 years ago
"La velocidad es enemiga de la Emoción" (Emilio Pujol) ¿Que hay detrás de una interpretación así? El ego del intérprete por ser el mejor, y ser el mejor es incompatible con ser músico.
zenidra 4 years ago 3
Y no es músico???? No hay emoción en esta interpretación???? Me retiro pues........... Escuchaste el resto de sus videos???...... Tedesco...... Alucinante!!!
BEATRITXE08 3 years ago
John Williams forgot more about classical guitar than this guy will ever know. Beeeotch!!!
wtfievh 4 years ago 2
for starters John doesn't playing a perfect 4th at the end of this prelude!! It says a lot about an interpretation when the last note is hammered so much as to knock the A string flying.
ThisDream 4 years ago
Williams version version is horrible. Fantastic Aguirre, Ufffff!!!! Fantastic.
Sitoxsp 4 years ago
I really hope you don't mean John Williams, because if you do then fuck off. This guy is good but he doesn't have shit on John Williams.
jdc7991 4 years ago
Un poquito de español: Vete a tomar por culo. Estupido.
Sitoxsp 4 years ago
BUt you can't compare two different instruments. The violin has only one note to play. There are no bass notes. The guitar is like a litlle orchesta and has many voices. If they come so fast togheter you can not understand all the notes at the same time.
Respectthewilderness 4 years ago
I would reccomend hearing the CANTATA version (which bach arranged himself), in which this same piece is interpreted by an entire orchestra with an organ. Your opinion might change after that. Its the opening of the cantata no. 29.
guitalvaro 4 years ago
Bravo Rafa!!! Te saliste!! Un abrazo grande.
luisregidor 4 years ago
Hola Luis!!! Bravo Rafa!!!!!!!!!!!! Besitos!!
BEATRITXE08 3 years ago
Rafael is 22 years old, he´s so young and a great guitarist! congratulations CUÑAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :P
Gusk20 4 years ago
This is too fast for many a violinist. We have to stop making this kind of silly comparison and judge the performance for what it is in itself. Ok, violins are generally faster, so what?
To my ears, this is coherent, lively, but a bit mechanical, poor in sound, previsible in phrasing and lacking the extasy the music asks for. With all respect for the enormous amount of work taken to play this way.
viandante 4 years ago
super rafael,
schöne grüße aleks
AleksGuitar07 4 years ago
I could 'av him
thebloodhound 4 years ago
I think people need to listen more to the violin version (or even better, the harpsichord or cantata version of the piece). Guitarists usually take it too slow because of its difficulty (specially on the B section) but the speed is the same any violinist would take it. They have plenty videos on youtube of that.
guitalvaro 4 years ago
hey, if someone can plkay a guitar at least remotely as musical as a violin, I would have no problem. But he forgot it had to be musical. Instead of competing w/ guitarists he competed with record Rubik's Cube solvers on this one. Again, there is no Music! here. This was not a Rubik's Cube to be solved in a record time. There is no message from Bach in this piece, it is just a caricature!
RajaBegun 4 years ago