This room at the moment has become a mud-slinging match. Please excuse the comments of those both for and against Irish nationalism. I heard a quote a few weeks ago during the queen's visit to Ireland. "the English would like the Irish a bit more if they knew more about Irish history and the Irish would like the English a bit more if we knew less about our history. We cant un-learn our history so I suggest that the Brits here read Irish history 1200-2000 up on Wikipedia. Then you can comment.
@Jameson10314 youre quessing padraic pearse...what do you mean by that ? we have a free state now dont we ? mother england get away with that ...we were forced to learn the saxon language and our language was banned and our relegion banned ...but irish language still lives today so who do think you are being an american to judge the hero of our nation ..how dare you sir !
@phillyballybay I was sympathizing with the fact that even here in the US the crown and their wealthy cohorts control everything. Except for JFK almost all of our presidents have royal blood including Obama. From what I heard Ireland is being subjected to harsh Austerity measures.
That's just another expression to destroy the middle class. No country can ever be free of the international bankers.
the hatred for the irish army held by youtube nationalists annoys me. they source their hatred or atleast discontent towards the DF from the actions of the irish free state army in the civil war. the people wearing uniform in this video, and every other 'irish army' video, bar the ones from the civil war, are not the free state army. they are the irish defences forces. founded in 1923, one year after the civil wars end. if you MUST post comments with hatred atleast read a history book first.
The Irish army is not the righful army of the republic. They are a sellout who locked up and killed their fellow volunteers under the watchful gaze of the British Army. We should of ripped up that treaty and shoved it up the Kings ass. Typical Irish twats that we are.
Do/did any of those in attendance reflect upon the 6 counties? I imagine it is not allowed to be reflected upon aloud as that would not be politically correct but "Is it not he elephant in the room?"
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This Free State army fought to crush the Republic proclaimed at Easter 1916 during the civil war to remain part of the British empire, why are they commemorating 1916?
@WestBritWatch When Britain called a truce in the war of independence they offered a dominion. It was accepted by new Irish government and they said they'll use the new government to get a Republic.
The IRA wanted to continue fighting for a Republic but the Irish government wanted to remove the gun from Irish politics and achieve the Republic their own way and that's why they put the Irish Army at war with the IRA. As far as the new government was concerned the war with Britain was over.
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@derrinirl The free state government was not the Irish government. The 1st and 2nd Dail was the Irish government not the 3rd Dail. The free staters fought against the Republic which was already established in 1919.
@WestBritWatch Sein Fein set up a parliament in Dublin on 22 January 1919 after the general election in December 1918 and that triggered the war of independence which ended on 11 July 1921 when Britain called a truce. Ireland became independent on 6 December 1922 as a Dominion. The treaty giving a Dominion instead of a Republic triggered the Civil War. The Republic came afterwards when the Irish Constitution was ratified in 1937 and it got it's first president in 1938.
@WestBritWatch Everybody wanted the Republic... nobody was fighting against it. Two sides had different ways of acheiving it. Pro-treaty side wanted to accept the Dominion and use the government to achieve the Republic (freedom to achieve freedom as Michael Collins put it). The anti-treaty side wanted the war of independence to continue which they didn't have a hope in hell of winning. The Republic was achieved afterwards by the pro-treaty method of using our own government.
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@derrinirl YOUR republic was achieved! What are you....an Irishman from - Dublin? Kilkenny? Galway? Easy for you to say your republic was achieved....what if you were an Irishman from Derry, Antrim, Armagh....would you hail this republic then? 19 narrow minded selfish fools voted you up...how apt when you have 26 votes
@derrinirl Was it not he New Irish Government brought back the Gun into Politics Look at the Shelling ofThe Four Courts with the loss of scores of civilian lives as me many of those british supplied 18 Pounder shells missed their target, Moreover many Volunteers swore an Oath to the ideal of free and soveriegn state of 'The Irish Republic' as later ratified by the 'First Dail'. so some wouldn't compromise while outher would allow outhers to be locked into a brutal racist sectarian statelet,
free state scumbags ,you have no right to call your self irish ,and that prick reading the proclamation ,its the first time hes ever read it, in his life ,the wanker
@spinlessbastard1 I don't think you are a spineless bastard, you are able to make your opinions known to other people with less regard to thier own feelings. This might be because you want to prove to the world you are not a spineless bastard but you dont have to do it that way. Have more respect for yourself. If you believe in yourself and you know what you want you can achieve anything.
HOW DARE ,THESE ,...forelock tugging ,free state ARSE LICKER cowardly scumbags ,take it upon themselves to commemorate ,anything ,they have spent there whole lives collaborating ,with the British,and attacking there fellow Irish men and women ,there attitude to the north has always been " IM ALLRIGHT JACK FUCK YOU"
(spacemooseireland) ALL I DO KNOW IS RIGHT OR WRONG WHAT EVER THE CASE...I WOULD CRUSH YOU, YOU PATHETIC LITTLE FUCKWIT..HAHAHA THEN ID FEAST OFF YOUR FLESH......MMMM ROASTED OVER FIRE....''I WOULD FUCKIN DEVOUR YOU'' YOUR NOTHING..REGARDLESS OF YOUR PATHETIC WORDS..I WOULD LOVE...COMPLETELY LOVE TO MEET YOU..HAHAHA BUT YA WOULD'NT BE AROUND TO LONG THAT I COULD PROMISE
@apollonas101 I am laughing my head of. This is brilliant! I am driving you up the wall, you used expletives and are typing in all caps because your so pissed off about the truth I said about you. Cyber bullies can dish it out but they cant take it. Only time your not a nobody is if your hurling insults at people over the internet. I have a social life with real people and know how to be polite and make friends. I feel sorry for you but then I feel sorry for all people shunned by society.
spacemooseireland oi you cunt...i fuckin burn you and with all the english cunts, your just as bad...your nuffin..your my fuckin slave..your my cuntin slave remember and remember well
@apollonas101 Im rolling on the floor laughing at how mad I made you. I know I should not be so mean to such a pathetic looser such as yourself but I coudn't help telling you what an insignifcant pedophile you are. I will remember you alright, I will remember you, a little cyber bully who dosent even have the bollocks to face an opponent in real life, It helps if you think of life as a game apollo, Every game has winners and loosers. You're one of the ones not good enough to be a human being.
@Todyo1798 oohh shut up u silly cunt...there aint no fuckin england any more....no more british empire...england will reap what she sowed...thats why the pakis gonna take over and piss on your english flag.hahahahahaahahahahaahahahahaahaha AND LISTEN YOU CUNT...DONT GET TOO SMART...CAUSE WE CAN FIND YOU THROUGH YOUR I.P ADDRESS...AND WELL SEPPERATE YOU FROM YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEAD MMMMMMMMMMM
@apollonas101 Cyberbullying "involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others." I personally think bullies like you are the scum of the earth. I hope to goodness your not Irish and some pretend Irish freak from Ugga Bugga land. Because if you are Irish your making us all look bad. People like you are cowards though and wouldnt dare to say that to anyones face.
I am Irish you freak, check my channel. I wouldn't mind seeing Pakistani's pissing on an English flag. I don't care what they do with it.
*Sigh*
Another internet tough guy who thinks he can scare people by writign something. I'd be scared if I found that writing on the wall of an abandoned house, written in blood. Typed in Times New Roman on YT just helps confirm that humanity is at least 60% retards.
Has anyone ever thought as to why, after the first world war was over that the Brit army never went into Southern Ireland and crushed them? Only an Idiot could deny that this could have been done with ease. Many times since it could have been done and even today it could be a walk over. Why don't the Brits do it?
1) The Brits did occupy Ireland after WW1. They tried and failed to crush the Irish people and the rebel forces. Look up "The Irish War of Independence".
2) Churchill, Chamberlin, and Lloyd Geroge storngly deny that it would be easy.
Why do you think they offered peace in the first place?
3) Ever heard of the Troubles? Kind of the same as a modern invasion, only smaller and with a populaion thats loyal ot Britain. The UK still failed to win.
@Todyo1798 Ignore Apollonas 101 he is a cyber bully and you can be confident that he is a coward doing his insults over the net but would not have the guts to look you in the eye in person and would just slither away quietly.
4) Britain does not invade as it makes no economic sense to invade Ireland. Also it will turn the world and their population against them. Not to mention it will piss of the Celts in Scotland, Wales and Cornwall. And also they will have to deal with a second Afghanistan that has a much more well funded and professional guerrilla army and is far more capabale of taking the fight to England.
@Todyo1798 Of course it was an invasion you nit wit and the Republican armed groups are more of a threat to England than any other armed groups are they not :S you understand sonny look it up it's fact on both of them points.
@Todyo1798 britain dose not invade..hahahahahahahaha fuck off you soppy cunt!! ho the fuck do you think the english established the british empire...sitting own at table eating a curry with those they wished to conquer...your obviously some thick cunt.......
@Todyo1798 britain dose not invade..hahahahahahahaha fuck off you soppy cunt!! how the fuck do you think the english established the british empire...sitting down at table eating a curry with those they wished to conquer...your obviously some thick cunt.......
@Chriseycarlyeah324 You bet your arse the 100 years celebration will be more memorable, but its not going to happen for another six years and I don't have a time machine.
@spacemooseireland oi fuck head can you fuckin read......i said id find you through your i.p address, so there fore if im unwilling to do this to your face why then would i be looking to find or seek you out...and besides...im the only realy irish man'' i know who my acestors are
@apollonas101 LOL its nannodick having inferoirity problems again because of low self esteem issues. Cyber bullies are the lowest form of life right now so I don't get offended by you but feel sorry for you since you'r robably the least popluar guy for several miles. I know you have a pathetic social life or you wouldnt spend all off your time being a cyber bully to make yourself feel less pathetic. Best sex you had in your life was a wank and even then you problably used tweezers, pathetic.
@gloin10 No he is right all the presidents are related in some way to the monarchy. Except for Obama he's Indonesian
RedZHunter 7 months ago
This room at the moment has become a mud-slinging match. Please excuse the comments of those both for and against Irish nationalism. I heard a quote a few weeks ago during the queen's visit to Ireland. "the English would like the Irish a bit more if they knew more about Irish history and the Irish would like the English a bit more if we knew less about our history. We cant un-learn our history so I suggest that the Brits here read Irish history 1200-2000 up on Wikipedia. Then you can comment.
spacemooseireland 8 months ago 3
Jameson10314, do please study some history, and stay away from the crazy conspiracy theory sites.
Obama related to the Windsor family? Eh, how does that work? And this proves the British control everything? Jesus Dog man, what are you smoking?
gloin10 8 months ago
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Jameson10314 9 months ago
@Jameson10314 youre quessing padraic pearse...what do you mean by that ? we have a free state now dont we ? mother england get away with that ...we were forced to learn the saxon language and our language was banned and our relegion banned ...but irish language still lives today so who do think you are being an american to judge the hero of our nation ..how dare you sir !
phillyballybay 8 months ago
@phillyballybay I was sympathizing with the fact that even here in the US the crown and their wealthy cohorts control everything. Except for JFK almost all of our presidents have royal blood including Obama. From what I heard Ireland is being subjected to harsh Austerity measures.
That's just another expression to destroy the middle class. No country can ever be free of the international bankers.
Jameson10314 8 months ago
6 counties ? does Ireland abandon the people who fought for, and desire their right for the Republic ?
JosephBradyCFC 9 months ago
the hatred for the irish army held by youtube nationalists annoys me. they source their hatred or atleast discontent towards the DF from the actions of the irish free state army in the civil war. the people wearing uniform in this video, and every other 'irish army' video, bar the ones from the civil war, are not the free state army. they are the irish defences forces. founded in 1923, one year after the civil wars end. if you MUST post comments with hatred atleast read a history book first.
mad4thecraic 11 months ago 5
@mad4thecraic Its very rare to find people who hate who also are smart enough to have a good education in history.
spacemooseireland 11 months ago 4
@spacemooseireland unfortunately true
mad4thecraic 11 months ago
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26 bankrupt counties.LOL.
SINKNINE 11 months ago
The Irish army is not the righful army of the republic. They are a sellout who locked up and killed their fellow volunteers under the watchful gaze of the British Army. We should of ripped up that treaty and shoved it up the Kings ass. Typical Irish twats that we are.
Lousypenguin 1 year ago
I'll be there in 2016
usmarine1814 1 year ago
Do/did any of those in attendance reflect upon the 6 counties? I imagine it is not allowed to be reflected upon aloud as that would not be politically correct but "Is it not he elephant in the room?"
usmarine1814 1 year ago
TAL! Up d RA!
FearTheIreland 1 year ago
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This Free State army fought to crush the Republic proclaimed at Easter 1916 during the civil war to remain part of the British empire, why are they commemorating 1916?
Jesus christ!
WestBritWatch 1 year ago
@WestBritWatch When Britain called a truce in the war of independence they offered a dominion. It was accepted by new Irish government and they said they'll use the new government to get a Republic.
The IRA wanted to continue fighting for a Republic but the Irish government wanted to remove the gun from Irish politics and achieve the Republic their own way and that's why they put the Irish Army at war with the IRA. As far as the new government was concerned the war with Britain was over.
derrinirl 1 year ago 32
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@derrinirl The free state government was not the Irish government. The 1st and 2nd Dail was the Irish government not the 3rd Dail. The free staters fought against the Republic which was already established in 1919.
WestBritWatch 1 year ago
@WestBritWatch Sein Fein set up a parliament in Dublin on 22 January 1919 after the general election in December 1918 and that triggered the war of independence which ended on 11 July 1921 when Britain called a truce. Ireland became independent on 6 December 1922 as a Dominion. The treaty giving a Dominion instead of a Republic triggered the Civil War. The Republic came afterwards when the Irish Constitution was ratified in 1937 and it got it's first president in 1938.
derrinirl 1 year ago 12
@derrinirl
The Irish Republic was declared in 1949 I was in Dublin then.
BAC1954 1 year ago
@WestBritWatch Everybody wanted the Republic... nobody was fighting against it. Two sides had different ways of acheiving it. Pro-treaty side wanted to accept the Dominion and use the government to achieve the Republic (freedom to achieve freedom as Michael Collins put it). The anti-treaty side wanted the war of independence to continue which they didn't have a hope in hell of winning. The Republic was achieved afterwards by the pro-treaty method of using our own government.
derrinirl 1 year ago 34
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@derrinirl YOUR republic was achieved! What are you....an Irishman from - Dublin? Kilkenny? Galway? Easy for you to say your republic was achieved....what if you were an Irishman from Derry, Antrim, Armagh....would you hail this republic then? 19 narrow minded selfish fools voted you up...how apt when you have 26 votes
ajpw1981 1 year ago
@derrinirl Was it not he New Irish Government brought back the Gun into Politics Look at the Shelling ofThe Four Courts with the loss of scores of civilian lives as me many of those british supplied 18 Pounder shells missed their target, Moreover many Volunteers swore an Oath to the ideal of free and soveriegn state of 'The Irish Republic' as later ratified by the 'First Dail'. so some wouldn't compromise while outher would allow outhers to be locked into a brutal racist sectarian statelet,
malachy1847 9 months ago
@WestBritWatch Excellent comment +1.
Lousypenguin 1 year ago
free state scumbags ,you have no right to call your self irish ,and that prick reading the proclamation ,its the first time hes ever read it, in his life ,the wanker
spinlessbastard1 1 year ago
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free state scum bags
spinlessbastard1 1 year ago
@spinlessbastard1 I don't think you are a spineless bastard, you are able to make your opinions known to other people with less regard to thier own feelings. This might be because you want to prove to the world you are not a spineless bastard but you dont have to do it that way. Have more respect for yourself. If you believe in yourself and you know what you want you can achieve anything.
spacemooseireland 1 year ago 3
@spacemooseireland thanks i feel much better now ,that you told me that!
spinlessbastard1 1 year ago
HOW DARE ,THESE ,...forelock tugging ,free state ARSE LICKER cowardly scumbags ,take it upon themselves to commemorate ,anything ,they have spent there whole lives collaborating ,with the British,and attacking there fellow Irish men and women ,there attitude to the north has always been " IM ALLRIGHT JACK FUCK YOU"
spinlessbastard1 1 year ago
@spinlessbastard1 I understand that while your opinions are hartfelt they are not really relevant to this discussion.
spacemooseireland 1 year ago
@spacemooseireland i respect those who respect me.....
apollonas101 1 year ago
(spacemooseireland) ALL I DO KNOW IS RIGHT OR WRONG WHAT EVER THE CASE...I WOULD CRUSH YOU, YOU PATHETIC LITTLE FUCKWIT..HAHAHA THEN ID FEAST OFF YOUR FLESH......MMMM ROASTED OVER FIRE....''I WOULD FUCKIN DEVOUR YOU'' YOUR NOTHING..REGARDLESS OF YOUR PATHETIC WORDS..I WOULD LOVE...COMPLETELY LOVE TO MEET YOU..HAHAHA BUT YA WOULD'NT BE AROUND TO LONG THAT I COULD PROMISE
apollonas101 1 year ago
@apollonas101 I am laughing my head of. This is brilliant! I am driving you up the wall, you used expletives and are typing in all caps because your so pissed off about the truth I said about you. Cyber bullies can dish it out but they cant take it. Only time your not a nobody is if your hurling insults at people over the internet. I have a social life with real people and know how to be polite and make friends. I feel sorry for you but then I feel sorry for all people shunned by society.
spacemooseireland 1 year ago 2
@apollonas101
You all entitled to your own opinion.
Have some respect for someone elses country.
kevinubaldoherrera 1 year ago
spacemooseireland oi you cunt...i fuckin burn you and with all the english cunts, your just as bad...your nuffin..your my fuckin slave..your my cuntin slave remember and remember well
apollonas101 1 year ago
@apollonas101 Im rolling on the floor laughing at how mad I made you. I know I should not be so mean to such a pathetic looser such as yourself but I coudn't help telling you what an insignifcant pedophile you are. I will remember you alright, I will remember you, a little cyber bully who dosent even have the bollocks to face an opponent in real life, It helps if you think of life as a game apollo, Every game has winners and loosers. You're one of the ones not good enough to be a human being.
spacemooseireland 1 year ago
@Todyo1798 oohh shut up u silly cunt...there aint no fuckin england any more....no more british empire...england will reap what she sowed...thats why the pakis gonna take over and piss on your english flag.hahahahahaahahahahaahahahahaahaha AND LISTEN YOU CUNT...DONT GET TOO SMART...CAUSE WE CAN FIND YOU THROUGH YOUR I.P ADDRESS...AND WELL SEPPERATE YOU FROM YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEAD MMMMMMMMMMM
apollonas101 1 year ago
@apollonas101 Cyberbullying "involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others." I personally think bullies like you are the scum of the earth. I hope to goodness your not Irish and some pretend Irish freak from Ugga Bugga land. Because if you are Irish your making us all look bad. People like you are cowards though and wouldnt dare to say that to anyones face.
spacemooseireland 1 year ago
@apollonas101
I am Irish you freak, check my channel. I wouldn't mind seeing Pakistani's pissing on an English flag. I don't care what they do with it.
*Sigh*
Another internet tough guy who thinks he can scare people by writign something. I'd be scared if I found that writing on the wall of an abandoned house, written in blood. Typed in Times New Roman on YT just helps confirm that humanity is at least 60% retards.
Todyo1798 1 year ago
Has anyone ever thought as to why, after the first world war was over that the Brit army never went into Southern Ireland and crushed them? Only an Idiot could deny that this could have been done with ease. Many times since it could have been done and even today it could be a walk over. Why don't the Brits do it?
Donksn 1 year ago
@Donksn
1) The Brits did occupy Ireland after WW1. They tried and failed to crush the Irish people and the rebel forces. Look up "The Irish War of Independence".
2) Churchill, Chamberlin, and Lloyd Geroge storngly deny that it would be easy.
Why do you think they offered peace in the first place?
3) Ever heard of the Troubles? Kind of the same as a modern invasion, only smaller and with a populaion thats loyal ot Britain. The UK still failed to win.
Todyo1798 1 year ago
@Todyo1798 Ignore Apollonas 101 he is a cyber bully and you can be confident that he is a coward doing his insults over the net but would not have the guts to look you in the eye in person and would just slither away quietly.
spacemooseireland 1 year ago
@spacemooseireland
I know how to deal with trolls. Use logic and laugh at them. If I didn't know how to deal with them I'd have left YT long ago...
Thanks for the advice though.
Todyo1798 1 year ago
@Donksn
cont.
4) Britain does not invade as it makes no economic sense to invade Ireland. Also it will turn the world and their population against them. Not to mention it will piss of the Celts in Scotland, Wales and Cornwall. And also they will have to deal with a second Afghanistan that has a much more well funded and professional guerrilla army and is far more capabale of taking the fight to England.
Understand now sonny?
Todyo1798 1 year ago
@Todyo1798 Of course it was an invasion you nit wit and the Republican armed groups are more of a threat to England than any other armed groups are they not :S you understand sonny look it up it's fact on both of them points.
Eazyduzit219 1 year ago
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@Eazyduzit219
What the fuck are you talking about?
Todyo1798 1 year ago
@Todyo1798 britain dose not invade..hahahahahahahaha fuck off you soppy cunt!! ho the fuck do you think the english established the british empire...sitting own at table eating a curry with those they wished to conquer...your obviously some thick cunt.......
apollonas101 1 year ago
@apollonas101
I do love it when the illiterate wankers try to impart some of their logic to me.
Britain "did" invade Ireland and many other places, mainly due to the fact that such places provided money or a strategic placing.
However, Britain "does not" (try to spell correctly please), for all the reasons I have below.
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Todyo1798 1 year ago
@Todyo1798 britain dose not invade..hahahahahahahaha fuck off you soppy cunt!! how the fuck do you think the english established the british empire...sitting down at table eating a curry with those they wished to conquer...your obviously some thick cunt.......
apollonas101 1 year ago
@Chriseycarlyeah324 You bet your arse the 100 years celebration will be more memorable, but its not going to happen for another six years and I don't have a time machine.
spacemooseireland 1 year ago
@spacemooseireland oi fuck head can you fuckin read......i said id find you through your i.p address, so there fore if im unwilling to do this to your face why then would i be looking to find or seek you out...and besides...im the only realy irish man'' i know who my acestors are
apollonas101 1 year ago
@apollonas101 LOL its nannodick having inferoirity problems again because of low self esteem issues. Cyber bullies are the lowest form of life right now so I don't get offended by you but feel sorry for you since you'r robably the least popluar guy for several miles. I know you have a pathetic social life or you wouldnt spend all off your time being a cyber bully to make yourself feel less pathetic. Best sex you had in your life was a wank and even then you problably used tweezers, pathetic.
spacemooseireland 1 year ago
i'm off to england and fuck this banana republic
irishbollix 1 year ago
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1Fianna 1 year ago
@irishbollix Fuck off so
EireAontaighe 1 year ago
at 3:08 thats a United States army officer is it not i would say it our military attache from the U.S.
DLS95 1 year ago
whats the name of the guy who speaks
sgsgtr 2 years ago
Captain tom ryan
bouse23 2 years ago
nice one. i was always looken for name. thanks
conbhui 2 years ago
whats the name of the tune they plat at 4:21? i think its in seven ages aswel?
conbhui 2 years ago
Its from the film Mise Eire- Conducted by Sean O Riarda
TheDmc88 2 years ago