High Court Considers Extending Gun Rights

[pcblah]

violating the consitution is not good... so lets impeach every one of them :D (really we have to)

[assman255]

yup founding fathers rolling over in their graves

[Painkiller9013]

"30000 people killed every year in this country with guns"...ok mister are you including all the "poor misunderstood" 16 and 17 year old type scum bags that rob liquor stores and carjack people into this category?

I think its so funny that the states with the highest level of gun control have a far higher rate of crime than states with less restrictions.

THis guy is a fucking clown. Where is he getting his numbers from?

[E5CAPEGOAT]

Not all liberals support gun control. The ones that do though are deformed retards that need to be beat with rebar.

[dun10001]

Its better to be thought of as a fool. Than to open your mouth and prove it. God bless America!!

[nathangrz]

You BETTER hope that the 2nd amendment is extended to the states, or an uprising BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, will overtake your elected ass. Just because we the people elected you,DON'T THINK YOUR ANYTHING SPECIAL. Just make your corrupt dollar like you want and shut the F up.

[michaelf1900]

we need to ban cars, because tens of thousands die in car accidents through out the country. if we are going to save lives we must ban private ownership of cars, cars kill more people yearly then guns. so the cars must be banned, plus cars are hazzardes to the enviorment

[lorker9]

its NOT up to you its a RIGHT!! 

[pjicleanair420]

Whats the difference between Paul Helmke and a tick?

One is a repulsive parasite and the others a tick.

[buildit000]

This man is typical of the liberals who will stand up with the aclu and defend baby killers, but will scream out loud if a man tries to defend his property and family by executing a criminal caught in the act. What in the hell is wrong with these people? How many of those killed by guns would have been saved if they had a gun to fight back with. They should be made to walk down the middle of a drug infested neighborhood at midnight untill they finally go and get a gun for self defense.

[CrudOMatic]

How many of those 30,000 killed and 80,000 wounded were done so by CRIMINALS? There used to be a time in this country when Criminals thought twice about attacking people, because so many LAW ABIDING CITIZENS were armed!

Now you have a culture of liberalism that needlessly scares people about guns, and tries to limit the gun rights of LAW ABIDING CITIZENS to the point that a lot of people aren't armed... guess what? CRIME IS GOING THROUGH THE ROOF! Note, Criminals DON'T OBEY THE LAW! WAKE UP!

[theironlung315]

You're fighting a losing battle Helmke. Americans like their rights

[pjicleanair420]

brady org= terrorist threat that needs to be destroyed

[eifersucht2]

so since the ban was lifted where is all the mass chaos, violence, and apocalyptic prophecies we were force fed?

[666Angelfuck]

so what dose this mean for citizens? will it be easier to buy a hand gun now?

[jjooboo]

Whew Liberal asses are sucking wind tonight!

[12GaugeLosAngeles]

i have a 10 roud magazine instead of a 13 round... and that's the way they stop crime!? i'm getting 5 magazines just to compensate.... eat that motherfuckers.

[MrClawson9]

The NWO is going to be maaaaddd.

[wagzel]

The Preamble states the government exists to " promote the general Welfare." And if gun legislation promotes the general welfare that's the governmant's call.

[evolutionist101]

@wagzel "The Preamble states the government exists to " promote the general Welfare." And if gun legislation promotes the general welfare that's the governmant's call. "

WRONG AGAIN.

Which in turn, it would nullify the Bill of Rights and make the Constitution WORTHLESS.

Do people think anymore?

[wagzel]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Only people in that militia are granted arms rights. The arms clause is subordinate to the militia clause. Ask an English teacher. Solution, get a amendment the says only " arms will not be infringed."

[tkcarr]

@wagzel

The problem is that we are all pretty much in that militia. In any event the Supreme Court disagrees with you and has stated that the right to keep and bear arms is apart from service in said miltia. That was always the intent of the Founders.

[evolutionist101]

@wagzel "The arms clause is subordinate to the militia clause"

WRONG. The "Militia clause" is only ONE of the reasons why the "right of the people to keep and bear arms"...shall not be infringed. Not the ONLY reason. Funny how people try to re-write the Constitution. Why ask an English teacher? Read what the Founding Fathers said. Jeez...

[llarlamon7758]

This is all bs! The 2nd amendment is an inalienable right (God given) that NO man can take away! The Sup. court's job is 2 make sure that those rights arent infringed upon by anyone. Its our duty 2 make the govt. adhere 2 the Constitution with all means necessary!

[pntdblack]

One of the first things hitler did was to take guns away from the german people. Is it not obvious why? Lets not learn by hind sight like the german people had to.

[PigMine]

God, guns, gold.

[zackgonnasurvivenwo]

second ammendment dumbfuck....dont like it.....well then maybe i want black slaves?? no more 14th ammendment.or maybe i dont think we should have free speech!

you cant pick and choose.

[1964GJH]

I just don't want a bunch of trigger happy morons walking around me with guns. You can own a gun, but don't let your right threaten my security with a bunch of poor-shot "wanna be John Waynes" trying to outdraw and kill bad guys.

[jboyko3]

You must be talking about the police.

[bertly71]

As much as many liberals and governmental control freaks don't like it, guns are a part of our culture. Gun ownership bought us our freedom, along with some help from France, Holland, and some other countries. When they outlaw guns there will be many criminals in this country, we wont give them up.

[cazyblood3]

very true bertly71 yes there will be more criminals great comment

[bertly71]

Thanks again.

[TheLiberalssuckdick]

Liberals and their pursuit to control guns.

Worked well with Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pot, Kim Jong-Il, Castro, Amin.

works well.

[MavHunter20XX]

@TheLiberalssuckdick Shit, thanks. I need that quote for an argument with a biggot. For some reason the thinks I'm crazy for keeping a firearm in case of intruders.

[jboyko3]

How come I see more and more British police officers carrying Heckler & Koch MP5 Carbines and Glock pistols if most British citizens aren't allowed to own handguns? Where is the threat that justifies an increase in this kind of firepower on behalf of law enforcement?

[jjooboo]

@jboyko3 - I was cruising threw some 2nd Amendment vids and came across you comment about armed British police. Great observation on your part, I never thought it.

[CrudOMatic]

@jboyko3 Monopoly of Power.

[MavHunter20XX]

@jboyko3 You don't know? It's because since the "Law abiding" citizens has given up their firearms, the criminals, that still have firearms, are less affraid and more prepared to use lethal force. I'm surprised, however, that they are carrying submachineguns, US police only employ weapons when SWAT is needed.

[Failcard]

@jboyko3 Because it's easier to maintain a police state when the police have better guns then the people.

[Steadno]

there are two people walking down the street and only one has a gun on their hip...one gets jacked...guess who.

[krazy45cat]

whats good in montana should be good in every state ! Glad I live in FLA . ob=0 I wonder how sota is going to vote .LOL

[MrSuperJuden]

Well fuckem all.

[puddum]

It's only a matter of time before we have full blown terrorism in America, and some ill-informed Neo-Fascist blows Obama's head off.

[TheBearWatch]

Doomed.. expect more violence as the economy gets worse.

[ShadeRage2007]

Ya they are saying that we are recovering at the federal level, but at the local level schools and other community buildings are closing for lack of money. In Kansas City there was a announcement yesterday of the permanent closing of 28 schools.

[TheVMFA333]

bye bye guns..... bow n arrow time!

[jailstop]

There should be no ban on Guns what so ever. Its a pointless waste of time and money! If violent criminals cared about the law there wouldn't be violent criminals. Gun laws just make it harder for good people to protect themselves from bad people.

[soetebeer]

Right ON!

[ATRUEAMERICAN10000]

Why don't we just get rid of the useless BLACKSs...then no one would need a gun ... (except for hunting/sport).

[TOWIFELGA]

When Government outlaws stupidity, Everybody in society will reside at Jail and be registered on work release.

[TOWIFELGA]

The Original INTENT Purpose and Reason for the Second Amendment is for individual citizens to rightly defend against Tyrranical police state control that demands the ability to Regulate and Manipulate society, transforming people into worker slaves for the global beehive government of antichrist.

[avi919191]

free speech doesnt kill people guns do....

[ShadeRage2007]

@avi919191 In Canada more people are killed by knives than guns. Does this mean that knives need to be outlawed?

[soetebeer]

ShadeRage2007 - I've been hearing that a lot these days. I'm Canadian but live in the states. Toronto is really bad now. Windsor were I'm from - you can't even walk the drive anymore!

[soetebeer]

Criminals kill people - not lawful gun owners. You will never get a criminal to register a gun EVER. It is stupid people like you that believe the lie. You will wish you had one if you were invaded in your home and the police will never get there fast enough to help you and your family. Shame on you for not being man or woman enough to protect your family!

[avi919191]

listen bro i never even hinted that guns should be outlawed i think that guns should be legal with a license at the moment i think its a bit too easy to get a licensed gun but my comment was to connect with what the guy in the vid said... he said that there is no reason to distinguish between the first ammendment and the second ammendment and i think in some ways thats true but no reason to distinguish? ownership of guns does help and i agree its important but there is a difference

[soetebeer]

Gun registration is to control lawful citizens only! It is easy to take guns away from lawful citizens once they have your address through registration. Read your Constitution and Bill of Rights! I'm a sister not a bro. For the record look up the history of gun control - it was established to take guns away from Blacks!

[avi919191]

look im not against gun ownership i'm sorry if im not clear. i personally think that gun regulation is important because its not that easy to get guns children and criminals could get guns more easily so some regulation is needed but of course not letting citizens who are only using it to keep themselves and their families safe. I personally think that at the moment it is a bit too easy to get a liscense I don't know that much about this but once again that wasnt my point

[soetebeer]

I'm not trying to fight you! LOL

The rare moments that kids get a hold of a gun - to me does not compare to the criminals that use them everyday. Never will any gun law created will make getting a gun harder on a criminal - NEVER! Government does not need to make a law for the rare stupid parents and mandate/dictate laws on the majority of responsible gun owners to0.

[soetebeer]

Hate to burst your bubble but criminals careless about your free speech or even mine. And that goes for the criminal elites is Washington too!

[Dethclops7]

Yeah!! Making guns illegal just make the innocent able to get guns, ass-hole crimnials will still get them. Pot it illegal, it's easer to get then beer, met is illegal and crimnals get it too. though meth is made by the bad people, but you get my point lol

[ShadeRage2007]

The purpose of the amendment is so the population can protect itself from outside threats as well as threats from within. Nearly all able men were part of the militia back then, it was a patriotic duty. In recent times this has been perverted by the federal government and militias are propagandized as being militant extremists.

[milograamans]

The more people allowed to have guns, the more accidents and fatalities will occur. I think we should cut back on citizens rights to bear arms if anything... I do know people who would disagree with me, but still.

[ShadeRage2007]

@milograamans There are countries where every citizen are required by law to own a gun and be a part of a militia. What your describing hasn't happened there.

[soetebeer]

And there are countries like the UK and Canada who's crime rate has doubled from banning guns. Criminals do not adhere to laws ever - they invade homes and murder residence.

[wagzel]

the right to bears arms is extendedt those in "a well regulated militia" - just read the amendment, not the bumper sticker

[soetebeer]

you need to read the rest of it. "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

[agnosticFILOSIFER]

criminals don't break the law, thats why they are called CRIMINALS

[soetebeer]

LOL - Criminals are above the law!

[oilhammer04]

Leftists can't stand for the populace to be armed. The court can't extend the right of the 2nd Amendment, because the Constitution recognizes the preexistence of this right before the founding of our government. No branch of the government has the right to infringe this right.

[soetebeer]

The criminals can't wait for lawful citizens guns to be taken away! Anti-guns people are clueless - they will be the ones unarmed and shot in their own homes. Shame on them for not protecting their home and families. Police never get there in time to help.

[deathmetalwolf85]

"Leftists" have no problem with people owning guns. In fact many are proud gun owners. They do feel that there should be some consideration for public safety so who should have guns and where guns can be carried should be given some thought. My personal opinion is I don't care how many guns you own or if you walk down the street armed to the teeth. If you want to flirt with the Devil who am I to stop you.

[soetebeer]

The only people I know that advocate gun laws and control are people that do not believe in constitutional rights of lawful citizens! It is a way of tracking lawful citizens - period! CRIMINALS WILL NEVER ADHERE TO ANY LAWS!

[deathmetalwolf85]

Just because law breakers violate the law doesn't mean we shouldn't consider laws to discourage the behavior. However I'm not for gun laws just because I trust individuals won't go crazy with guns. I use the same logic to justify my position on all kinds of individual rights from abortions to drugs. The government should have no say in any of these matters because people will do what's best for people.

[soetebeer]

We already have laws on the books to discourage criminals - obviously they don't care. Criminals are criminals!

[deathmetalwolf85]

So should we abandon all laws just because someone will eventually break them?

[soetebeer]

When have we abandon any law for criminals. Do you even know how many local laws you have in your own area - not to mention federal laws? I've been seeing this lately - criminals suing the people they invade in their own homes. Look it up.

[deathmetalwolf85]

I'm not for the vast majority of gun laws (and a sizeable chuck of all the laws on the books quite frankly) however I disagree with the idea that just because criminals ignore the laws that's a reason to not have the laws.

[soetebeer]

I've never said not to have laws - I think there is enough laws that need to be enforced. Why add more when the one we have need to be enforced.

[deathmetalwolf85]

If anything there are too many laws on the book but yes, if you're going to have the laws they should be enforced better then they have been.

[soetebeer]

I agree. too many laws! Too much government control too!

[oilhammer04]

How do you know I'm flirting with the Devil? You don't even know if I carry or why.

[soetebeer]

oilhammer04 - Exactly!

[deathmetalwolf85]

I was referring to anyone who wants to or does carry a gun. Owning a gun is a dangerous proposition that tends to end badly for the gun owner and if you want to take on that risk that's your decision to make. I feel the same way about drugs and a lot of other things.

[soetebeer]

You can blame the anti-gun propaganda for the hysteria. These people are more of dangerous than gun owners!

[oilhammer04]

A gun is a tool. There are dangers inherent in many things but people single out guns because an armed populace is not easily suppressed. Many, many people own guns and it hasn't ended badly for them. You are buying into the Leftist propaganda. I used to think that way, too, but came to my senses. But, I will agree with you to the extent that people with no horse sense shouldn't have guns.

[soetebeer]

This is why the elites demonize the militia! Have you read the MIAC Report for police. It targets lawful citizens.

[deathmetalwolf85]

My position is for the most part any US Citizen (underage citizens with parent consent) can have a gun and keep that gun on their person. However I'm not sold on the idea that guns are just some tool that's only bad when bad people use it so I can understand the views of gun control advocates even though I disagree with them. The only thing that bothers me in the whole gun rights debate is the "If you don't agree with me then you're not an American" nonsense.

[oilhammer04]

I can appreciate your position, because I know that guns can be used to reach out and hurt people from a distance, but other things, in the wrong hands, can be dangerous too, like cars, cell phones (distracted drivers), shoddily built buildings that collapse when there is an earthquake, etc.

[BertGriffin88]

NRA Paul, what we need are Uzis for all, Glockes for all, & clips for all. All Americans need to be armed all the time. All Americans need to be ready. You never know where or when the combative situation will occur. So it's important to be packing the heat necessary to bring the required deadly force to settle the issue favorably, that is, in your favor. Arming all Americans would also help the gun economy by employing many gun makers. So Bush&Dick could invite us all to Crawford duck hunting.

[JDaKingman]

Yay!

[BClocals]

The supreme court is going to rule on this?

Damn, this is fucked up.

[soetebeer]

It sure is! It is not their job to even consider taking away a lawful right!