Hey do you have access to this video? I thought it was blocked!
CUDA, stands for Compute Unified Device Architecture. As the name suggests it is an architecture that is available to programmers in order to speedup various compute intensive tasks.
For example you can transcode video much faster than you could have done with a cpu alone.
Well, the launch was supposed to be winter 2009 but it was pushed allt eh way to April 12, 2010. And what does nVidia show with? So far, 5-15 percent performance advantage over the 5870 when compared to the GTX 480. But, it is 100 dollars more, produces more noise, and is HOT. Not very impressive, but downright pathetic after plenty of PR spin and boundless yapping from Dear Leader. The GTX 470 has pretty much the same performance as the 5850, but for 50 dollars more, same problems as 480.
Mostly I read here that Nvidia fans only defense is: ...Uh, you are so awesome you can compare a newly released gfx card to an old gfx card. Very fair indeed.... but we are compering Ati's best against Nvidia's best no matter the age. So Ati`s best is better..... stop finding lame excuses for Nvidia.
No one has cus there are none. Everything that's been out have been these retarded handpicked simulated benchies. It's not a real bench unless the reviewer has the final product in hand. Also I'm waiting for review sites like Anandtech to review it cus they're one of the few reliable sites left that doesn't let either company sway their results.
Uh, you are so awesome you can compare a newly released gfx card to an old gfx card. Very fair indeed. Thats like comparing the GTX 200 series to the old Ati HD line, guess who wins!
We are comparing the price to peformance ratio here. There is nothing unfair in that. Guess what, if you walk into a shop, in search for a new graphics card, this is what you see. So how is it unfair?
No, you were comparing the overclock-ability of the GTX 285 and the HD 5850, and guess what the HD 5850 is built on a smaller platform (40 nm if im correct, versus the GTX 55 nm), thus generating less heat and of course it will overclock better.
You are right about the 40nm process, but Nvidia not having a 40nm high end product, is not ATI's fault now, is it?
In any case, everything on this world, comes down to money, so with less money you get a better overall product, with or without overclockability taken into consideration. That's all we are saying here.
It's true what you are saying. My point was just it was an unfair comparision by comparing an old gfx card to a newer.
Im sorry for my aggressive approach in the start, im just tired of nvidia vs ati discussions, they've been going on to long now, rather wait for fermi now :P
Don't think for a second that I am not excited about Fermi. Of course I am. Even more so than the Evergreens, since it is a brand new architecture and all.
Benchmarking these things, is my bread, heheh!
Not only that, but I think that I will change my Evergreens for Fermis because Nvidia has better HDTV support and I love my HDTV! :)
Yea exactly, hope pricing of fermi isn't to high, but will be higher than ATI's line, they are known for higher prices, but better performance (not always equal to the amount of money you pay extra tho) :D Really looking forward to fermi aswell :)
ATI is shit , no matter what u say, nvidia has develop more tecnology with their cards than ati's shiity company. tesla, cuda, unifide architaecture, physics, 3D vision, 3D sorround, and now they give us a completely new gpus with cuda and tesselation procesors, ati for the other hand always put many mhz to thier cores and plenty on big numbre while nvidias card have smaller numbers but a mrginal performance dirference. A T I = S H I T
Both ATI and Nvidia have contributed important technologies.
Saying something like ATI=SHIT though, makes you nothing more than a fucktard Nvidiot fanboy. How can you say ATI is shit, especially now, that they have a full DX11 lineup starting from the 5450 and going all the way up to 5970, while Nvidia has absolutely NOTHING?
OK , im sry , saying that ATI was shit was a mistake, but we cant compare newest ati releaze with nvidia's 1 year old technology. better wait to see how nvidias 300 series owns ati's 5000
You are retarded... Without having more than 1 company on the market there would be no competition and no innovation whatsoever. Not to mention sky high prices... Take your fanboy bullshit to Nvidia forums, no one cares here...
if you check out the Far Cry 2 benchmark of the GTX 360 and compare the results to the 5970, the GTX 360 gets higher minimum fps, that's pretty good considering it's a single gpu card, against a dual gpu card.
and Min fps is what really counts, regardless of what anyone thinks :-)
If you play one game for one hour at 60fps and for a split second the framerate drops to 10fps and then you play the same game on another system at 45fps and the framerate drops to 30fps for a split second, which one is better?
lol, I'd still rather have a video card that will give me guaranteed better minimum frame rate.
anything above 60 fps is pointless anyways, you wont notice it.
in regards to YOUR scenario.
How bout this... what would you rather have? a card that gets 500 fps (Something you wont even notice) that sometimes goes to an annoying low frame rate, or a card that gets 100 fps, but doesn't go below 60 fps, and doesn't annoy you when it dips down.
What you are missing here is that the MINIMUM framerate alone is meaningless if it is not accompanied by a timetable.
The correct way to study a game's framerate, is to make four framerate groups, 15-25, 25-35,35-55 and 55-75 and above and measure what percentage of a given run, each framerate group held.
A SINGE minimum framerate measurement shows nothing really. As I said, that minimum framerate can be for a split second. The same goes for maximum framerate. So from all three average rules
As to what I would prefer, is the abiltity to play Crysis at 60fps average at 1080P very high, something that I can do with my CFX 5850s.
Now if the X graphics card, could play crysis at those settings, stuck at 45fps, I couldn't care less. I prefer the occasional drop downs to 30fps and an average of 60fps, over a consistent 45fps. You get a much smoother experience and that's why it's called an "average"!
lol, but if you get a minimum of 60 fps in a game, you know you'll never get anything lower (Maybe like 1 fps lower)
there's no way to tell if the performance is good if it gets a higher average fps, it could get 10 minutes straight at 20 fps for all you know, and 60 minutes of 80 fps, and give you an average of 60 fps, is that good? um no cuz I don't want to play a laggy game for 10 minutes...
I don't care who dominates really, as long as I play my games decently, but in all fairness, when GF100 based cards will be available on retail, the Evergreen series will already have been on the market for six months.
Let me say again, SIX months. That's half a year.
The next ATI series will come sooner than 6 months after Nvidia has launched their GF100.
Though I'm not really a ati fanboy and have always used nvidia gpus, this sort of represents(although overblown) the current condition of nvidia. Funny as shit.
I was really finding this lame, but thankfuly watched it till the end. I don't like fangals taking a hit on competitors. But I loved this, not for the GPU-wars, but for the humor.
As much as this video is true and I do favor ATI over NVIDIA b/c ati is awesome...I don't want ATI to take over the market, and neither do you guys either because if nvidia suffers and cant come back....we will be selling our first born children to play PC games
DirectX10 introduced the unified shader model, targetable from a c-like language, which is basically turing complete in terms of the flexibility. OpenGL v3 also introduced a similar unified shader model but not all opengl implementations implement this yet.
The turing completeness of the shader languages basically implies interchangability in terms of what is possible.
OpenGL can emulate ANY DirectX effects, google it up. Also I dont own any console cause I dont want one, im on the PC. And why the fuck would you bring up the cryengine? rofl.
The Xenos is based off of the R600, which is DX10 (DX10.1 in a later case). If the Xenos can run DX10, and it does, it can definitely emulate DX9. Not to mention the Xenos has a superset of DX9.0c and Shader 3.0. Meaning it sure as hell can emulate it.
the first r600 was dx10 (2900xt) hmm but still it cant run all of the features of dx 10, maybe a few but not at its full potential. Although i thought the xbox 360 was based on an advanced version of the r580 (x1k series graphics) with a few enhancements like the ps3 with the enhanced g70 chipset. So does the ps3 support it also? cuz i know the r580 or r600 are better than the g70 which is what the ps3 is based on.
Seeing as the PS3 uses its own OS(LibGCM and PSGL), and not a Microsoft based one like the 360 uses, the PS3 would not have to worry about DirectX. So the RSX may not even have DirectX programming in the chip, not to mention Microsoft would not help the competition by handing over DirectX.
No it doesn't. DirectX is a Microsoft Proprietary API. Proprietary means it is exclusive to that company. PS3 has its own OS made by Sony, and uses a OpenGL type API, the PSGL. The GPU maybe by Nvidia and based off of a DirectX card, but the software side itself does not use DirectX. Everyone has to know that a GPU "supporting" DirectX does not mean it is using it. Even a Mac Nvidia GPU will say DirectX (verison here), but the Mac OS itself can not utilize it.
Nobody has had DX11 until the ATIs 5xxx series, the Nvidia 3xx series, and Intel's Larrabee. Xbox360 at the lowest is DX9ex, which was a DX10 "beta" used during Vista development.
@Feder: As for ATI with 1600 shaders, that is a misconception. ATI rates their shaders in scalars as opposed to unified like the other manufacturers. It requires 5 Scalars to make 1 unified vector shader. So 1600 ATI "shaders" is actually 320 unified shaders.
LOL i still cant believe ati has 1600 shaders, thats insane! The 5870x2 is going to have 3200shaders! and then if u crossfire it its 6400 shaders! Thats insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So evergreen is the fastest single chip right now. Big deal.
While ATi is continously resort to smaller fab (which has a limit) and faster mems, nVidia is actually mitigating the limit with newer architecture and efficient processing. Once their next gen grabbed the foothold on the game development scene, ATi will come in following the trend of the architecture (much like they did with G80 and its unified shader). Monkey see monkey do with the architecture, and fail at it on 2 generations.
That post proved that 14 year old hardware engineers are smarter than ATI engineers, cause ATI failed to bring a competitive architecture *insert any rolleyes and facepalm pic here*
You are teh most knowledgeable poster here man, way to go *another rolleyes pic plz*
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GDDR4, GDDR5, 55nm. etc.. They resort to those brute force to have higher clocks so that they can counter nvidia's architecture. nVidia can integrate GDDR4, GDDR5, 55nm fab etc if they wanted to. But they do not because that will leave the competetion to the dust. DX10.1 is a joke. and we have yet to see DX11 titles proliferating. Because whatever DX9 consoles release, that is the limit to what the PC games graphics' have.
gawd i wish it was easy as war to choose the right g card, i know im buying 2 for my leet machine, because my mobo will run both at 16x speeds, 6 gig 3 channel ddr3 @ 2000 mhz, but what card, i want the 1600 shaders but intell has a greater reputation... but then again im gonig intel for my cpu i think a core i7 920 or 950 im not sure if i want the extra 0.4 ghz for an extra 350 aud... wtf should i do, do i want ssd or raptors... my ssd will cost 1 grand... (250gb)
Any idea when that comes out? Sorry I have been out of the loop for a while with video cards and such. But I will definitely have to wait for a while since my build money keeps getting pushed back.
You mean the Evergreen series? It's already out but with limited stock. Currently only the 5870 is available but this coming week, the 5850 will be launched too!
I have to say I've always been an NVidia fanboy, but I'm following the ATI-NVidia for a month or 2 now, along with the NVidia issues.
Even Microsoft downsized the DX10/10.1 capabilities to what it is now because NVidia couldn't keep the pace.
This video is really great and so true. ATI had tessellation for a long time, and still under-exploited in DX10.1 because it's not part of regular API.
For ATI, DX11 is simple to implement. NVidia does have a lot more to implement...
What movie is this?
Dcusb1 6 months ago
@Dcusb1
Der Untergang (The Downfall). Awesome movie!
toutagamon 6 months ago
rotfl....lube...lololol
fatcat2939 8 months ago
Lol, "don't pretend you won't like it".... BEST PART! but somehow i got this when i search ATI to nvidia lol
MrSpore15 10 months ago
Loool. Even as I watched this, my ATi HD 5870 broke down and had to restart. I does that about once an hour. Great card. :P
2hakkabakka 1 year ago
@2hakkabakka
lol
Maybe it's time to RMA it and if you are lucky, you can request a 6950 if a replacement 5870 is not available! Just saying...! :)
toutagamon 1 year ago
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I wonder what will happen when Hittler hears about ASUS Ares? It even beats the 580 in most games :)
nerbne 1 year ago
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nerbne 1 year ago
wat is CUDA exactly?
TheAntman2006 1 year ago
@TheAntman2006
Hey do you have access to this video? I thought it was blocked!
CUDA, stands for Compute Unified Device Architecture. As the name suggests it is an architecture that is available to programmers in order to speedup various compute intensive tasks.
For example you can transcode video much faster than you could have done with a cpu alone.
toutagamon 1 year ago
@toutagamon ya i can watch the vid jus fine
TheAntman2006 1 year ago
PissX XD LOLOLOLOL
mihkelnooneelse 1 year ago
Well, the launch was supposed to be winter 2009 but it was pushed allt eh way to April 12, 2010. And what does nVidia show with? So far, 5-15 percent performance advantage over the 5870 when compared to the GTX 480. But, it is 100 dollars more, produces more noise, and is HOT. Not very impressive, but downright pathetic after plenty of PR spin and boundless yapping from Dear Leader. The GTX 470 has pretty much the same performance as the 5850, but for 50 dollars more, same problems as 480.
RtFusion 1 year ago
LMFAO!!!! This is gold.
zgarner2 1 year ago
1:15, There's a bomb in my briefcase!!! :P
zinodikudu 1 year ago
"We're going to make sure we clean ourselves, especially that pretty boy there". LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOOLO
workthis 1 year ago
the gtx 480 fails
Wujin88 1 year ago 9
@Wujin88
I wasn't impressed as well.
Nice performance but nothing spectacular. Bad power consumption, heat and noise.
toutagamon 1 year ago 3
it will never go into production cos it runs like crap lulz
XxXRangerXxX 1 year ago
rofl
EdAcayaba 1 year ago
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Mostly I read here that Nvidia fans only defense is: ...Uh, you are so awesome you can compare a newly released gfx card to an old gfx card. Very fair indeed.... but we are compering Ati's best against Nvidia's best no matter the age. So Ati`s best is better..... stop finding lame excuses for Nvidia.
Drac0id 1 year ago
What the nice quality? Ripped off bluray?
AsAnAtheistFilms 2 years ago
I read some where that the GT300 series test run production had 94% failure rate,that is why we will never see it.
RCSonicjet 2 years ago
Have you actually seen benchmarks between the GF100 based cards and the 5870?
toutagamon 2 years ago
@toutagamon
No one has cus there are none. Everything that's been out have been these retarded handpicked simulated benchies. It's not a real bench unless the reviewer has the final product in hand. Also I'm waiting for review sites like Anandtech to review it cus they're one of the few reliable sites left that doesn't let either company sway their results.
vdubrida70 2 years ago 2
I always prefered ATI
Only this time I bought nvidia and I regreted it
RozSatyros 2 years ago
man i cud not stop laughing. esp at the pretty boy bit hahaha
prankmypants 2 years ago
hahahahaha!!! Hillarius!!! love hitler for fun!!
vespinozalanyi 2 years ago
I said ATI dominates because in my country a HD 5850 cost U$S 380 and a GTX 285 cost U$S 485!!!!!!!!!! and you know a 5850 outperforms a gtx 285
agustin98k 2 years ago
Agreed! The same here mate! Also the 5850 can get a 30%+ overclock with the stock cooler at 50% fan speed. The GTX 285 can't.
toutagamon 2 years ago
Uh, you are so awesome you can compare a newly released gfx card to an old gfx card. Very fair indeed. Thats like comparing the GTX 200 series to the old Ati HD line, guess who wins!
legolas552004 2 years ago
We are comparing the price to peformance ratio here. There is nothing unfair in that. Guess what, if you walk into a shop, in search for a new graphics card, this is what you see. So how is it unfair?
toutagamon 2 years ago
No, you were comparing the overclock-ability of the GTX 285 and the HD 5850, and guess what the HD 5850 is built on a smaller platform (40 nm if im correct, versus the GTX 55 nm), thus generating less heat and of course it will overclock better.
legolas552004 2 years ago
You are right about the 40nm process, but Nvidia not having a 40nm high end product, is not ATI's fault now, is it?
In any case, everything on this world, comes down to money, so with less money you get a better overall product, with or without overclockability taken into consideration. That's all we are saying here.
toutagamon 2 years ago
It's true what you are saying. My point was just it was an unfair comparision by comparing an old gfx card to a newer.
Im sorry for my aggressive approach in the start, im just tired of nvidia vs ati discussions, they've been going on to long now, rather wait for fermi now :P
legolas552004 2 years ago
Ok cool man. Don't worry about it.
Don't think for a second that I am not excited about Fermi. Of course I am. Even more so than the Evergreens, since it is a brand new architecture and all.
Benchmarking these things, is my bread, heheh!
Not only that, but I think that I will change my Evergreens for Fermis because Nvidia has better HDTV support and I love my HDTV! :)
All I am afraid of, is Nvidia pricing! :S
toutagamon 2 years ago
Yea exactly, hope pricing of fermi isn't to high, but will be higher than ATI's line, they are known for higher prices, but better performance (not always equal to the amount of money you pay extra tho) :D Really looking forward to fermi aswell :)
legolas552004 2 years ago
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ATI is shit , no matter what u say, nvidia has develop more tecnology with their cards than ati's shiity company. tesla, cuda, unifide architaecture, physics, 3D vision, 3D sorround, and now they give us a completely new gpus with cuda and tesselation procesors, ati for the other hand always put many mhz to thier cores and plenty on big numbre while nvidias card have smaller numbers but a mrginal performance dirference. A T I = S H I T
JohnTheViolator 2 years ago
Both ATI and Nvidia have contributed important technologies.
Saying something like ATI=SHIT though, makes you nothing more than a fucktard Nvidiot fanboy. How can you say ATI is shit, especially now, that they have a full DX11 lineup starting from the 5450 and going all the way up to 5970, while Nvidia has absolutely NOTHING?
As for cuda, 3d vision and the rest, ZOMFG LOL!
toutagamon 2 years ago 5
@toutagamon yeah im still wondering who the F uses 3d vision LMFAO.
shinraorg 2 years ago
OK , im sry , saying that ATI was shit was a mistake, but we cant compare newest ati releaze with nvidia's 1 year old technology. better wait to see how nvidias 300 series owns ati's 5000
JohnTheViolator 2 years ago
@JohnTheViolator I like both Nvidia and Ati but Nvidia didnt creat physx, they bought it off Ageia .
shinraorg 2 years ago
You are retarded... Without having more than 1 company on the market there would be no competition and no innovation whatsoever. Not to mention sky high prices... Take your fanboy bullshit to Nvidia forums, no one cares here...
ManoKiaule 2 years ago
if you check out the Far Cry 2 benchmark of the GTX 360 and compare the results to the 5970, the GTX 360 gets higher minimum fps, that's pretty good considering it's a single gpu card, against a dual gpu card.
and Min fps is what really counts, regardless of what anyone thinks :-)
1981z28camaro 2 years ago
If you play one game for one hour at 60fps and for a split second the framerate drops to 10fps and then you play the same game on another system at 45fps and the framerate drops to 30fps for a split second, which one is better?
One hour at 60fps or one hour at 45fps?
toutagamon 2 years ago
lol, I'd still rather have a video card that will give me guaranteed better minimum frame rate.
anything above 60 fps is pointless anyways, you wont notice it.
in regards to YOUR scenario.
How bout this... what would you rather have? a card that gets 500 fps (Something you wont even notice) that sometimes goes to an annoying low frame rate, or a card that gets 100 fps, but doesn't go below 60 fps, and doesn't annoy you when it dips down.
1981z28camaro 2 years ago
What you are missing here is that the MINIMUM framerate alone is meaningless if it is not accompanied by a timetable.
The correct way to study a game's framerate, is to make four framerate groups, 15-25, 25-35,35-55 and 55-75 and above and measure what percentage of a given run, each framerate group held.
A SINGE minimum framerate measurement shows nothing really. As I said, that minimum framerate can be for a split second. The same goes for maximum framerate. So from all three average rules
toutagamon 2 years ago
As to what I would prefer, is the abiltity to play Crysis at 60fps average at 1080P very high, something that I can do with my CFX 5850s.
Now if the X graphics card, could play crysis at those settings, stuck at 45fps, I couldn't care less. I prefer the occasional drop downs to 30fps and an average of 60fps, over a consistent 45fps. You get a much smoother experience and that's why it's called an "average"!
toutagamon 2 years ago
lol, but if you get a minimum of 60 fps in a game, you know you'll never get anything lower (Maybe like 1 fps lower)
there's no way to tell if the performance is good if it gets a higher average fps, it could get 10 minutes straight at 20 fps for all you know, and 60 minutes of 80 fps, and give you an average of 60 fps, is that good? um no cuz I don't want to play a laggy game for 10 minutes...
just a possible scenario.
going by minimum gives you a good baseline.
1981z28camaro 2 years ago
Fake benchmarks, fake images. Oh, you thought they were real? LMFAO, Tool.
RollinTwentySix 2 years ago
hey did you know that Efaco5 has a program called "Fake FRAPS" and it shows higher fps than he's actually getting, so he can brag.
1981z28camaro 2 years ago
No I didn't know, but I don't care really.
People can do whatever they want as long as it makes them happy. I mind my own (legit) business! ;)
toutagamon 2 years ago
jajajaja you are a genius!!! very funny video, PissX jajajaj the worst thing i ever saw, ATI dominates
agustin98k 2 years ago
ye slamdog go and buy a 5870 and stop saying that ati dominates because they don't.
13vafanculo 2 years ago
I don't care who dominates really, as long as I play my games decently, but in all fairness, when GF100 based cards will be available on retail, the Evergreen series will already have been on the market for six months.
Let me say again, SIX months. That's half a year.
The next ATI series will come sooner than 6 months after Nvidia has launched their GF100.
toutagamon 2 years ago
@toutagamon true, six months is a lot for the video card market and when fermi gets released I bet ATI will launch a new card line 1-2 months later.
itsmagnator 2 years ago
This is pure win. Period.
Though I'm not really a ati fanboy and have always used nvidia gpus, this sort of represents(although overblown) the current condition of nvidia. Funny as shit.
shuayebahmed 2 years ago
Well this is a parody video. It is supposed to be overblown!
I like ATI more, but they are all corporations whose only goal is profit. They are not our friends! ;)
toutagamon 2 years ago
Man i'm a geek to find this really funny :(
castlejackson 2 years ago
I am more of a geek to make it! :P
toutagamon 2 years ago
Well made though :)
castlejackson 2 years ago
You are very kind.
Glad you liked it. :)
Oh and thanks to everyone....
toutagamon 2 years ago
ATIfanboy village, rofl
CheatEnginer 2 years ago 3
LMAO "The way things are going Evergreen is going to Everfuck us!!" lols
wiseman60 2 years ago 16
I was really finding this lame, but thankfuly watched it till the end. I don't like fangals taking a hit on competitors. But I loved this, not for the GPU-wars, but for the humor.
It started getting better from 3:25
Loved it! ;-)
KingShahJahan 2 years ago
Brilliant, especially the end ;D
chiseller 2 years ago 3
HAHAHA fermi got delayed till march
elegadom2 2 years ago 2
Yeah I couldn't believe that this video would still be valid.
I guess it will be a great chip though, so it will be worth the wait.
toutagamon 2 years ago
3:04 ... HAhA Dont cry . I will buy you an ATI CARD..LOL
keagleeye 2 years ago 2
pissX =))) 0MG xD
dshadow01 2 years ago
As much as this video is true and I do favor ATI over NVIDIA b/c ati is awesome...I don't want ATI to take over the market, and neither do you guys either because if nvidia suffers and cant come back....we will be selling our first born children to play PC games
sonoftherooshooter 2 years ago 2
Of course nobody wants Nvidia or ATI out of the picture, unless they are utterly stupid.
The worst news I've heard the last couple of days, is the cancellation of Larrabee. At least for the forseable future. :S
toutagamon 2 years ago
dont pretend you wont like it lmao
jancarlosdv 2 years ago
"don't cry i will buy you an ati card" hahahahahha
krlja1 2 years ago
man if hitler ran nvidia video games would play us. Annnnnnd shit would get done
tallandme13 2 years ago
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OMG!! All of you are like advanced computer users with so many knowledges, and I was like a cocroach with nothing to have OR know in my brain...
Fran0neal 2 years ago
OMG!! All of you are like advanced computer users with so many knowledges, and I was like a cocroach with nothing to have OR know in my brain...
Fran0neal 2 years ago
DirectX10 introduced the unified shader model, targetable from a c-like language, which is basically turing complete in terms of the flexibility. OpenGL v3 also introduced a similar unified shader model but not all opengl implementations implement this yet.
The turing completeness of the shader languages basically implies interchangability in terms of what is possible.
ixeron 2 years ago
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Consoles are OpenGL which can emulate ANY directx, get some facts.
mupp33n 2 years ago
Consoles cant emulate all direcx, only direct x 9, if your saying that because of cry engine 3, i hate to break it to you but thats all done in dx9.
Feder147 2 years ago 2
Why would I think of Cryengine?
OpenGL can emulate ANY DirectX effects, google it up. Also I dont own any console cause I dont want one, im on the PC. And why the fuck would you bring up the cryengine? rofl.
mupp33n 2 years ago
The Xenos is based off of the R600, which is DX10 (DX10.1 in a later case). If the Xenos can run DX10, and it does, it can definitely emulate DX9. Not to mention the Xenos has a superset of DX9.0c and Shader 3.0. Meaning it sure as hell can emulate it.
silvercoke 2 years ago
the first r600 was dx10 (2900xt) hmm but still it cant run all of the features of dx 10, maybe a few but not at its full potential. Although i thought the xbox 360 was based on an advanced version of the r580 (x1k series graphics) with a few enhancements like the ps3 with the enhanced g70 chipset. So does the ps3 support it also? cuz i know the r580 or r600 are better than the g70 which is what the ps3 is based on.
Feder147 2 years ago
Seeing as the PS3 uses its own OS(LibGCM and PSGL), and not a Microsoft based one like the 360 uses, the PS3 would not have to worry about DirectX. So the RSX may not even have DirectX programming in the chip, not to mention Microsoft would not help the competition by handing over DirectX.
silvercoke 2 years ago
the ps3 does use directx
zurbon 2 years ago
No it doesn't. DirectX is a Microsoft Proprietary API. Proprietary means it is exclusive to that company. PS3 has its own OS made by Sony, and uses a OpenGL type API, the PSGL. The GPU maybe by Nvidia and based off of a DirectX card, but the software side itself does not use DirectX. Everyone has to know that a GPU "supporting" DirectX does not mean it is using it. Even a Mac Nvidia GPU will say DirectX (verison here), but the Mac OS itself can not utilize it.
silvercoke 2 years ago 2
Nobody has had DX11 until the ATIs 5xxx series, the Nvidia 3xx series, and Intel's Larrabee. Xbox360 at the lowest is DX9ex, which was a DX10 "beta" used during Vista development.
@Feder: As for ATI with 1600 shaders, that is a misconception. ATI rates their shaders in scalars as opposed to unified like the other manufacturers. It requires 5 Scalars to make 1 unified vector shader. So 1600 ATI "shaders" is actually 320 unified shaders.
silvercoke 2 years ago
where did u read that?
Feder147 2 years ago
LOL i still cant believe ati has 1600 shaders, thats insane! The 5870x2 is going to have 3200shaders! and then if u crossfire it its 6400 shaders! Thats insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feder147 2 years ago
Lol Atifanboy village XD
Feder147 2 years ago 3
GT300 has worth to wait
amIn00b 2 years ago
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Feder147 2 years ago
ATI >>> NVidia :D
IzakHunt 2 years ago 7
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So evergreen is the fastest single chip right now. Big deal.
While ATi is continously resort to smaller fab (which has a limit) and faster mems, nVidia is actually mitigating the limit with newer architecture and efficient processing. Once their next gen grabbed the foothold on the game development scene, ATi will come in following the trend of the architecture (much like they did with G80 and its unified shader). Monkey see monkey do with the architecture, and fail at it on 2 generations.
Reason4Termination 2 years ago
That post proved that 14 year old hardware engineers are smarter than ATI engineers, cause ATI failed to bring a competitive architecture *insert any rolleyes and facepalm pic here*
You are teh most knowledgeable poster here man, way to go *another rolleyes pic plz*
toohandsome 2 years ago 3
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GDDR4, GDDR5, 55nm. etc.. They resort to those brute force to have higher clocks so that they can counter nvidia's architecture. nVidia can integrate GDDR4, GDDR5, 55nm fab etc if they wanted to. But they do not because that will leave the competetion to the dust. DX10.1 is a joke. and we have yet to see DX11 titles proliferating. Because whatever DX9 consoles release, that is the limit to what the PC games graphics' have.
Reason4Termination 2 years ago
the xbox 360 is DX10
rodaz440 2 years ago
its DX11 dumbneck
rosehood101 2 years ago
The XBOX 360 with it's ATI 1900XT derivative, is DX11 compatible?
toutagamon 2 years ago
the xbox 360 is DX10 how can it be DX11 if they just made DX11 ur the fucking dumbass
rodaz440 2 years ago
Make it DX9 and you hit the bullseye! ;)
toutagamon 2 years ago
Im just glad I wasnt the dumbass saying its DX11
rodaz440 2 years ago
You're equally stupid saying it's dx10..
SAiKoU88 2 years ago
no im not as DX11just came out and DX10 was made around the time xbox 360 was or close toit i dont know i really dont care
rodaz440 2 years ago
3:15 .... OMFG I was laughing so hard I could barely breath...
Whitehorze 2 years ago
not sure why, but this is the funniest Hitler downfall one i've seen yet.
junkbox105 2 years ago 5
gawd i wish it was easy as war to choose the right g card, i know im buying 2 for my leet machine, because my mobo will run both at 16x speeds, 6 gig 3 channel ddr3 @ 2000 mhz, but what card, i want the 1600 shaders but intell has a greater reputation... but then again im gonig intel for my cpu i think a core i7 920 or 950 im not sure if i want the extra 0.4 ghz for an extra 350 aud... wtf should i do, do i want ssd or raptors... my ssd will cost 1 grand... (250gb)
matthewraabe15 2 years ago
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HAHAHA FUNNY VIDEO cant wait for gt300 when you look on specs off this cards ati cards look like kids toys vs gt300
club4ghz 2 years ago
ordered my 5850, but it wont arrive at my house for another 11 days :(
Gabkicks 2 years ago
Fuck! I can't even find a 5850 to order where I live! :S
toutagamon 2 years ago
5870 or GTFO. :P
It's awesome, too bad I don't have 3 monitors...
HWGuyEG 2 years ago
I can buy it in the store in my city but it is 260 euros! Nothingt to do but to wait! cheers
ivancirkovic 2 years ago
haha good vid yet another play on this movie. ive seen this clip with atleast 3 diff subtitles
ahhshytson 2 years ago
There must be more than 300 versions, lol!
toutagamon 2 years ago
LOL hitler as nvidia ceo
so thats why ati users cant have a designated nvidia physx card :o
JohnAngusFTW 2 years ago 3
"I will have to find some new names for old cards"
So true.
GerrardW 2 years ago 4
I own an ATI HD4850, but this is outrageous. Man, I laughed my asshole off!!! We win everytime they fight with each other. Great subtitles too!
tmihai20 2 years ago
hahahahaha!!! Great sens of humor!
vespinozalanyi 2 years ago
ATI love
Ichnos71x2 2 years ago
hahahahha fuking nice video man hahahha ATI 4 ever lol
ginga3792 2 years ago 5
lol
tomwar85 2 years ago 5
this is a masterpiece and it will mark forever the battle between ati and nvidia.
diegooo1972 2 years ago 5
good traslation ahahah and very impressive quality for a youtube video :)
erminioff 2 years ago 2
love the pharmacy round the corner line :D
hildegain 2 years ago 3
that's an amazing quality video considering youtube videos are usually blurry. XD
rawritssami 2 years ago 2
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yeah we now nvidia alway kicking ass of ati
icguilty 2 years ago
keep denying the facts boy.
leeuw16 2 years ago
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Reason4Termination 2 years ago
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gt300 is going to own ATI again this year
HongKongKanto 2 years ago
lol again?
sieglines 2 years ago
yea exactly.. ONLY 4 months too late LOL!
leeuw16 2 years ago
november boy november
HongKongKanto 2 years ago
excellent. jajajajaja. great fun. jajajajajajaja
icguilty 2 years ago
thx cb forum
airwolf1337 2 years ago
very disturbing when you understand what they are actually saying... couldn't concentrate on the subs at all :)
Leckfrosch 2 years ago
1.7%
Proalacran 2 years ago
"don`t cry,i`ll by you an ATI"
.....very funny and good !
even for me as an german;;))
VikerTurrit 2 years ago 2
That's good to know! This must be very vile for Germans! Sorry about that! :S
toutagamon 2 years ago
Very Cool Go Red Guys !! :D
jclafi 2 years ago
LOLL!!!! But how can we counter the rumored 32ROPS, 80TMUS, 1600 shaders coupled with ULTRA FAST GDDR5!
Nerdy nazis..wow.
AmyLeesPetWookiee 2 years ago
I think I just pee'd my pants...
luckiweeman 2 years ago
LOL
benette37 2 years ago
Fing hilarious :D :D :D
lagathy 2 years ago
WOW THIS IS SOOOOO CLEAR
bbhebe 2 years ago
this is epic
its appropriate nvidia/nazi...they both starts with "N', so close enough
KujoTenshi 2 years ago
haha, that was hilarious. at first I thought the lube commen was bad, but then he said "we're gonna need a lot" which made it so awesome
Cirap 2 years ago
i will have to find some new names for the old cards,so true
ChECaZZoNarraSTAqua 2 years ago
woooow.... SO TRUE
dani777dani 2 years ago
LOLzors
Decenium 2 years ago
dont cry ill buy an ati, pmsl
dave00dance 2 years ago 3
quad CrossFireX 5870x2 will be a pure ownage
bro1995 2 years ago
ATi propaganda.
SonsOfHateSphere 2 years ago
I guess you didn't watch the associated video, also created by me? ;)
toutagamon 2 years ago
I gotta say, I have clung to Nvidia for a while but the 5870 is a really pretty card. I might get it instead of the gtx 295.
HILARIOUS VIDEO btw
JetpackSniper085 2 years ago
the GTX 295 is better than an HD5870, if you want to get a new gpu, then w8 for the HD5870 X2
Wishdagger 2 years ago
Your comment should say "The GTX 295 is about equal with the 5870 in a few rare games that scale well with SLI, otherwise it is worse."
DragonRomer 2 years ago
Any idea when that comes out? Sorry I have been out of the loop for a while with video cards and such. But I will definitely have to wait for a while since my build money keeps getting pushed back.
JetpackSniper085 2 years ago
You mean the Evergreen series? It's already out but with limited stock. Currently only the 5870 is available but this coming week, the 5850 will be launched too!
toutagamon 2 years ago
I have to say I've always been an NVidia fanboy, but I'm following the ATI-NVidia for a month or 2 now, along with the NVidia issues.
Even Microsoft downsized the DX10/10.1 capabilities to what it is now because NVidia couldn't keep the pace.
This video is really great and so true. ATI had tessellation for a long time, and still under-exploited in DX10.1 because it's not part of regular API.
For ATI, DX11 is simple to implement. NVidia does have a lot more to implement...
Brillant vid btw!
bigboy071 2 years ago 3
Hahaha Favorited defiantly
SchaapjeDeluxe 2 years ago 2
NVIDIA sind wirklich fickte
NVIDIA are truly Fuc*ed
javed00 2 years ago
Wow! Uber funny! Really cracked me a few times! This is going to my favs.
Go ATi!
Dvich 2 years ago
EPIC! Oh my god, I'm still laughing after 5 minutes...
5/5.
RealNC 2 years ago
the ending roooooofffffflllllooooooooollllllll
mmoviefan7 2 years ago
Where is the original of this clip and what's it about?
sm0kie420 2 years ago
pretty sure its from valkyrie...its about the attempted overthrow of hitler from within the german military
anasasisxenophontis 2 years ago
Nope it's form the downfall! Original title Der Untergang!
toutagamon 2 years ago
lol failed
kylesonfire 2 years ago
egh... wasn't that funny. The StarCraft one was far better. This one wasn't even synced well.
m1k3072 2 years ago
got a link to it?
emax27 2 years ago
nvidia fanboi
Torikkaa 2 years ago
Classic! Lmao!!!
wickedout2010 2 years ago