Pogorelich is hot and cold running water: either a blur of superhuman speed or very snail-like a la Richter. Yet, he's insightful and has his own very definite ideas. That's why Argerich called hima "genius." We respect you, IVO! BRAVO!
Horrible recording. It seems like only half of the Pogorelich recordings I'm hearing on YouTube have any acceptable quality. If you don't have the microphone(s) right in the piano, the piano sound can be really bad!
The problem with this recording is that the eq-ing is wrong!!!!!!!!!!
Its definately the sound engineering that is the problem.
There is so much bottom end being caught by the microphone.
If this was re-eq'd it will bring out what was going in his mind.
THe person who put this up has no clue about recording sound or piano sound and should immediately put this down as no pianist in the world can play like that.
THis is stupid putting such an unbelievably unbalanced recording on.
I like the comment by Nextren `the ruins of a great pianist' - -
One of my favourite recordings is his Scarlatti Sonatas-frequently imaginative rethink of the way the music is normally played and incredibly sophisticated....this Rach 2 is just distorted and without momentum.
Does anybody know what happened to him? When he recorded Gaspard de la Nuit and Prokofiev 6 and the Chopin Preludes he was formidable and immensely original in the freshness of his readings. His playing had the bravura of the Moscow School and also the champagne sparkle of Cortot. I saw him in Bern Switzerland some 10 years ago and it was sad indeed. He was also a very handsome man, but appeared very bloated... Was it the loss of his beloved teacher and wife?
maybe his metronome was broken. this is almost a recreation. it might not get so popular by people like me who like to listen to the actual rachmaninoff sonata, but could probably be enjoyed by some people.
A very sophisticated rendition requiring a sophisticated listener who doesn´t expect all interpretations to come stamped out of a cookie cutter. It is rich as it is passionate and soul searching- to those who have souls.
I must admit the quality of this recording makes me question its authenticity. But the weird interpretation goes right along with his bizarre past as a performer. Look up past performances in Phila and NY where he was booed for playing things at extremely slow tempi. He has had quite a crazy history and he is one of the most original pianists around...obviously Argerich thought so. Some of his recordings are brilliant and profound. But like many risky pianists his bad days are quite bad.
This recording has been artificially slowed down (but obviously without changing pitch). You can tell by the poor sound quality caused by the lack of upper frequencies caused by the digital pitch control plugin. Also, you can hear that most chords are not synchronised - very unlikely for a pianist of Pogorelich's calibre and a very likely by-product of the speed conversion.
Pour moi,cette interprétation restera un grand moment dans mes découvertes,parce que la version de Vladimir H.m'avait laissé croire que l'oeuvre était superficielle!
Quel nouveau monde Pogorelich nous dévoile-t-il !! merci pour l'envoi.
In this recording, he was the worst pianist. Christ, what the fuck is he doing with that tempo? Did he think it was spiritual and profound, playing that slow at the end of the slow movement?
And the sloppiness of the third movement, with the laboriousness and the slurring is inexcusable. Hearing an artist I admire play like this is painful.
One of his very worst recordings. I recommend pulling this recording down as a gesture of respect to Pogorelich.
@4785689 Have you noticed it's actually difficult to have the discipline to play this slow? I know the Horowitz version of this sonata and am proud of how I play it, it goes against your instinct to play that painfully slow. Hell, it's hard to play even Largo that slow. It takes an inhuman restraint to play the way Pogorelich does in this recording.
@demosj that is true, but why would you want to? pogorelich's snail-speed recordings sound like they're being taken at practice tempo, if even that fast...
In the slow and quiet moments of this piece, there is created a profoundly hypnotic and soul searching sense of longing which eliminates our impatience for the slowness. Serious music is seriously stressful and sometimes, like Horowitz, we need to rest and recover.
Oscar Levant- pianist for Gershwin suffered a total nervous breakdown.
He really has gone crazy. This is the kind of thing you would do if you were trying to make yourself look really, really nuts. It was inevitable really, what with the death of his wife, his huge ego and then his rejection by a lot of the world. This sounds like he is screaming out to the world "I've had enough, and it's your fault". Maybe I'm wrong. What are other people's opinions?
this renditions shows the reborn of the child... the kick on the ass of all repressions... of the humanity itself... the transition to the very high level of existance
something what a common person is not able to understand, and to live
I think he is in pain and sad and you can hear this in his interpretation. It is of the highest art to express the condition of one's soul and to do it through a great piece of music like this is. I think he has painted his state of mind in this interpretation as a painter does on a canvass. Pain and flesh like Francis Bacon. There is real life in this, a human behind it, not a senseless machine.
when you study a piece enough, you begin to play with your own understanding of it, and experimentation [even during performance] becomes commonplace, as you search for different ways to use the piece as a vehicle for emotional translation. Hence this performance.
... (continued from the previous comment below) ... plus, what occasion was this, and what did he aim to do? despite of all the things that have been said and may have been said (... I mean elsewhere in medias, etc), he is a mature (and, also very great) musician, in any circumstances and situations. yes, I personally believe in what he does
let me say this ...... I have read some of the comments for this performance of the tune played by him here (... in previous movements too) ... and I'm quite optimistic about the things said and that can be said ... we could hear that the recording(audio)-quality is poor, and maybe so is the instrument that he was playing ... (continued to the next comment above) ....
clown!!!!
onlymusiciansallowed 1 day ago
Pogorelich is hot and cold running water: either a blur of superhuman speed or very snail-like a la Richter. Yet, he's insightful and has his own very definite ideas. That's why Argerich called hima "genius." We respect you, IVO! BRAVO!
poechopin 4 months ago
You can hear the deep sadness in him! SO sad!
rarescores 4 months ago
I suppose it helps to NOT know this piece of music to find it FABULOUS!
I have never heard it before ... have an open mind ... and find it fabulous!
mmbmbmbmb 10 months ago 2
@mmbmbmbmb Maybe one must listen like in Buddhism, removing one's mental word or image of the object and then you see all of its beauties.
dinoimeri 7 months ago
@dinoimeri That sounds like a very plausible analasys.
You have some amazing treasures on your channel &
are quite a gifted pianist yourself. BRAVO!
mmbmbmbmb 7 months ago
@mmbmbmbmb Yes, it is possible. Mr. Pogorelich approaches the pieces he plays without prejudice, we must try to listen to them in the same way.
Thank you for your kind words.
By the way, I enjoy wandering trough your large collection of music videos - it's good to have them in one place.
Best regards.
dinoimeri 7 months ago
Horrible recording. It seems like only half of the Pogorelich recordings I'm hearing on YouTube have any acceptable quality. If you don't have the microphone(s) right in the piano, the piano sound can be really bad!
sbdude101 11 months ago
AWFUL. imagine how it would have been to sit through this.
davidbaker03 1 year ago
This is an extremely poor recording of a great, if uneven, pianist.It sounds as if the piano was positioned at the bottom of a well.
Mr. Pogorelich has experienced great personal loss, and suffers from very poor health. That he plays at all is a testament to his will to create.
daniel15671 1 year ago
dude, he's pogorelich. STFU.
Ravel87 1 year ago
The problem with this recording is that the eq-ing is wrong!!!!!!!!!!
Its definately the sound engineering that is the problem.
There is so much bottom end being caught by the microphone.
If this was re-eq'd it will bring out what was going in his mind.
THe person who put this up has no clue about recording sound or piano sound and should immediately put this down as no pianist in the world can play like that.
THis is stupid putting such an unbelievably unbalanced recording on.
TheStereoflava 1 year ago
Rachmaninoff Sonata op.36
kisspianoforte 1 year ago
@kisspianoforte barely...
fledgehog 9 months ago
I like the comment by Nextren `the ruins of a great pianist' - -
One of my favourite recordings is his Scarlatti Sonatas-frequently imaginative rethink of the way the music is normally played and incredibly sophisticated....this Rach 2 is just distorted and without momentum.
japanesesweet 1 year ago
Does anybody know what happened to him? When he recorded Gaspard de la Nuit and Prokofiev 6 and the Chopin Preludes he was formidable and immensely original in the freshness of his readings. His playing had the bravura of the Moscow School and also the champagne sparkle of Cortot. I saw him in Bern Switzerland some 10 years ago and it was sad indeed. He was also a very handsome man, but appeared very bloated... Was it the loss of his beloved teacher and wife?
dialecticon 1 year ago
maybe his metronome was broken. this is almost a recreation. it might not get so popular by people like me who like to listen to the actual rachmaninoff sonata, but could probably be enjoyed by some people.
ibclappin 1 year ago
A very sophisticated rendition requiring a sophisticated listener who doesn´t expect all interpretations to come stamped out of a cookie cutter. It is rich as it is passionate and soul searching- to those who have souls.
mrmolinodelahoz 2 years ago
I must admit the quality of this recording makes me question its authenticity. But the weird interpretation goes right along with his bizarre past as a performer. Look up past performances in Phila and NY where he was booed for playing things at extremely slow tempi. He has had quite a crazy history and he is one of the most original pianists around...obviously Argerich thought so. Some of his recordings are brilliant and profound. But like many risky pianists his bad days are quite bad.
PumpkinCheeseMignon 2 years ago 2
This recording has been artificially slowed down (but obviously without changing pitch). You can tell by the poor sound quality caused by the lack of upper frequencies caused by the digital pitch control plugin. Also, you can hear that most chords are not synchronised - very unlikely for a pianist of Pogorelich's calibre and a very likely by-product of the speed conversion.
Matbormat 2 years ago
Pour moi,cette interprétation restera un grand moment dans mes découvertes,parce que la version de Vladimir H.m'avait laissé croire que l'oeuvre était superficielle!
Quel nouveau monde Pogorelich nous dévoile-t-il !! merci pour l'envoi.
antoinezygfryd 2 years ago 6
Pogorelich is either the worst or the best pianist ever. He makes his own category.
zporobija 2 years ago
@zporobija
In this recording, he was the worst pianist. Christ, what the fuck is he doing with that tempo? Did he think it was spiritual and profound, playing that slow at the end of the slow movement?
And the sloppiness of the third movement, with the laboriousness and the slurring is inexcusable. Hearing an artist I admire play like this is painful.
One of his very worst recordings. I recommend pulling this recording down as a gesture of respect to Pogorelich.
demosj 2 years ago 5
@demosj this is a sonata of schubert ahah
4785689 1 year ago 4
@4785689 Have you noticed it's actually difficult to have the discipline to play this slow? I know the Horowitz version of this sonata and am proud of how I play it, it goes against your instinct to play that painfully slow. Hell, it's hard to play even Largo that slow. It takes an inhuman restraint to play the way Pogorelich does in this recording.
demosj 1 year ago
@demosj that is true, but why would you want to? pogorelich's snail-speed recordings sound like they're being taken at practice tempo, if even that fast...
fledgehog 9 months ago
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This recording was slowed down. That`s easy using computer. Who ever did this is a fucking stupid bastard.
zartsekel 2 years ago
In the slow and quiet moments of this piece, there is created a profoundly hypnotic and soul searching sense of longing which eliminates our impatience for the slowness. Serious music is seriously stressful and sometimes, like Horowitz, we need to rest and recover.
Oscar Levant- pianist for Gershwin suffered a total nervous breakdown.
mrmolinodelahoz 2 years ago
yep, 37 minutes to be exact. Any advanced pianist would get through the piece more quickly on sight reading it!!
marcohorowitz8 2 years ago
This entire performance of the composer's revised edition shouldn't take over 20 minutes - let alone 35! A very painful experience...
brtherjohn 2 years ago
He really has gone crazy. This is the kind of thing you would do if you were trying to make yourself look really, really nuts. It was inevitable really, what with the death of his wife, his huge ego and then his rejection by a lot of the world. This sounds like he is screaming out to the world "I've had enough, and it's your fault". Maybe I'm wrong. What are other people's opinions?
davidgray2 2 years ago 2
I really, really loved Ivo in his early years (during and shortly after the Chopin competition), but this... I am a little bit scared.
AngelinaTaylor 2 years ago
@davidgray2 vous n'avez pas raison,bien entendu.Vous le savez bien.
Son interprétation est assez...effrayante,un peu comme Richter quand il creusait une sonate de Schubert.......
antoinezygfryd 2 years ago
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brtherjohn 2 years ago
this renditions shows the reborn of the child... the kick on the ass of all repressions... of the humanity itself... the transition to the very high level of existance
something what a common person is not able to understand, and to live
rolipoli 2 years ago
you think you are not common?? PROVE that to me that you are NOT....
We are all common people, we just ALL just think we are special. Which we are.
rompellini 2 years ago 2
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rolipoli 2 years ago
Something awful has happened to Ivo over the years. In the early 1980's, his performances were absolutely electrifying. How very sad.
salviati 2 years ago
is he sight-reading it????
bcbdaggtrf75 2 years ago
it sure sounds like a person going through their first reading of a piece of music.
Hervinbalfour 2 years ago
He needs fluoxcetine
ilshatt 2 years ago
I think he is in pain and sad and you can hear this in his interpretation. It is of the highest art to express the condition of one's soul and to do it through a great piece of music like this is. I think he has painted his state of mind in this interpretation as a painter does on a canvass. Pain and flesh like Francis Bacon. There is real life in this, a human behind it, not a senseless machine.
kevinpianist 2 years ago 3
@kevinpianist thanks
antoinezygfryd 2 years ago
for "better' or "worse" i might add...
caderat 2 years ago
"unbelievably spasmodic, just strumming chords"
when you study a piece enough, you begin to play with your own understanding of it, and experimentation [even during performance] becomes commonplace, as you search for different ways to use the piece as a vehicle for emotional translation. Hence this performance.
caderat 2 years ago
... (continued from the previous comment below) ... plus, what occasion was this, and what did he aim to do? despite of all the things that have been said and may have been said (... I mean elsewhere in medias, etc), he is a mature (and, also very great) musician, in any circumstances and situations. yes, I personally believe in what he does
ebonyknight9000 2 years ago
let me say this ...... I have read some of the comments for this performance of the tune played by him here (... in previous movements too) ... and I'm quite optimistic about the things said and that can be said ... we could hear that the recording(audio)-quality is poor, and maybe so is the instrument that he was playing ... (continued to the next comment above) ....
ebonyknight9000 2 years ago
The ruins of a great pianist.
Painful.
Unbelievably spasmodic, just strumming chords.
Never thought I'd hear a professional pianist playing this piece worse than Helfgott played it. This is just sick...
nextren 3 years ago 2
I agree. Poor man.
bende85 2 years ago