Hey Dave I own aFender BLues Junior and that doesnt have a StandBySwitch and therefor when i play out with myband and we go on break i usually just keep the amp on and turn my volume down on the amp. the other guitarist says i should keep the amp on to keep the tubes hot. I am wondering,What should i do about this situation? I don't want to wear my tubes out in the amp but now i think i should shut the amp off on set breaks and turn it back on when we go back to playing. What is your thoughts?
DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR............DELETE THIS VIDEO UNLESS YOU'RE ACTUALLY WANTING PEOPLE TO RUIN THEIR AMPS! YOUR ADVICE ON TUBE LIFE IS MAKING ME THINK YOU'RE A TUBE ON YOUTUBE
so wait... if the proper procedure is to turn the power on, then wait 30 sec to a min., then turn the standby on for like 1-2 min. do I still keep the standby on while I play? I don't see why since they are just for warming up. Do I just do the above then turn the standby off then start playing? then when I am completely done playing do I just turn the power off?
This video is kind of dangerous. I am not sure if it is flat out wrong or if the speaker is just in articulate. On any amp with a standby...when the power is off the standby is ON....when an amp is on standby the unit will not make sound. With your power ON you would then turn the standby OFF to get sound from the amplifier.
'rockongoodpeople' means well but this channel is rich with bad information.
Remember that the standby and power switch are OPPOSITE when one says 'On" or 'Offf' When the standby is on that means the standby is in the position that prevents sound from leaving the amp. When the standby is off the amp will produce sound.
1. Turn the main Power on, wait a minute or so.
2. turn standby off (the knob will be in the same position as the power's on position) the amp will now work.
Power down:
power off, standby on (both switches in same 'direction')
Tube cathode strip is not realy a problems in guitar amps...the standby switch will do little to prolonge the life of tube in typical guitar amp unless your plate Voltage is extremy high...stanby still usefull for muting...
If my tube amp is scratchy what does that mean? My speakers are blown? Tubes are worn out? Im really dissapointed in my BRAND NEW EVH 5150 III. Im going to be mad if my tubes are already bad.
What happens if my tube amp doesnt have a standby switch? Will my tubes wear? I havent replaced the tubes in 14 years or so. I also havent played it in 9 years....
If the tubes lasted 5+ years or so a standby switch won't be nessesary (don't fix if it's not broken). But to be safe, I'll try to get a SB switch added if I were you. Ofcourse if you haven't played it in 9 years why bother anyway.
It actually depends on your amp. Most Marshalls make you put the Power on first to prolong Tube Life, and other amps like Fenders with them want Standby before power. It all depends on what you have, and that's why you need to refer to the manuals.
Please take any schematic of a fender tube amp and you will come back and modify this video. The power switch is like to plug the current cable in the wall (it gives main power to the amp) and the stand by switch cuts the main power to the tubes (+B) but NOT the "warm up" filament current (so the tubes still light and become hot).
As the red light in the from panel of the amp gets the current from the filaments you always know that the are in "warm up" status. So the stand by switch really cuts the main current to the tubes and but lets the filaments on (puts the amp in stand by, logic ugh?) but the power switch is a master power for the entire amp!).
Light but no sound means stand by mode, light with sound means normal operation mode. NO light means power off (don't matter if stand by on or off, there is no current the same when the amp is unplugged). The correct way to turn on starting wit h both switches off is 1- stand by off and power on, 2 wait the time you consider and then stand by on. To turn off do it in reverse order to be ready for the next time you turn on.
But I must to admit that your explanation is correct, only you are a little bit confused (in my opinion) about the function of the switches. Maybe because I am a fender tube amp user only I am not familiar with the amp you are talking about but please check this matter twice cause your videos can influence many people. Cheers from Spain.
This is backwards. Starting with both switches off, you turn the POWER switch on first. Let it warm up a little, plug in your guitar, get your initial levels turned where you want them, then take it off STANDBY. Now if you want to switch guitars or unplug, put it on standby and unplug. Its more for safe plugging in and unplugging and keeping your tubes warm without being turned on and off back and forth, rather than a warmup switch. Its more of a safety switch to keep the amp healthy.
You can get a mexi strat that looks just like it for about $400, $430 for the sunburst finish. It will probably come with a white pickguard... you can get a black one for $20.
The video is reverse of the proper method. If you follow the video, you will cause damage to the tubes that you are trying to prevent. The right way is:
1. Start with both switches OFF.
2. Turn on Power/ON switch. a. Pilot light comes on. b. Tubes start glowing. c. No sound yet.
3. Wait 15-30 sec.
4. Turn on Standby switch.
5. Now you have sound. time to rock.
A better video would be at the amp showing switches, pilot light & tubes during the sequence.
Yeah i was just gonna make that comment. The ON switch is the on that brings power into it but to get noise through it you have to turn the standby off.
don't worry , amps like this will have either a rectifier tube or a scillicone rectifier that has a delayed warm up that slowly warms the tubes preventing them getting hot too quickly , as a vozx runs class A the power tubes are running full temperature all the time and back in the 60's they designed the circuit to warm up this way .
when you turn it on or off , it's always best to turn all the volumes to zero to prevent damage to the speakers as well
In every amp instruction you get info that when it comes to turn the amp on - POWER switch comes first, then the STANDBY switch. Also if you have a break you only turn off STANDBY, not POWER. You misunderstood the meaning of warming up. Indeed STANDBY is to warm up tubes (definitely anode tension), but it doesn't mean it's being to switch on first!!!
Ask any pro guitar player or manufacturer for this. Or see amp instructions.
Just something I thought of...One thing you should mention is that you shouldnt move a tube amp until it has a chance to cool down because the filaments are weaker when they are hot. When cleaning up after a gig loading your amp should be the last thing you do and that will significantly extend tube life.
Another important thing about valve amps (and to a certain extent solid state amps) is NEVER EVER have the amp switched on without speakers connected. I have even seen people who work in guitar shops unplug speakers from valve amps when they are on.
Many guitarists will tell you that ''they have done it loads of times'' and the amp has been ok. This is TOTALLY false, the problems usually manifest weeks or months later, when the amp is driven hard, the output transformer AND power valves fail.
In terms of the actual cost of a tube, depends on brand and where you buy them. As a very general rule of thumb, one new power tube will go for between $20-$40, and one new preamp tube will run between $10-$20, with some higher priced tubes too.
If you are talking about labor to replace tubes, as in getting a tech to do it, I don't know. I maintain my own tube amps, so I never paid someone to do it for me. I don't think it's that much though.
Thanks for the lesson. Now I have a good idea how to properly use my Fender Twin Reverb. I would usually just turn on standby then wait 5 seconds and power it up. You made sense and I will probably have the tubes changed soon. Rock on, good people!
Boogies hold their value very well and their prices are relatively the same as comparable high end amps. All Boogies are American made by hand and have solid reputation. My subway rocket I got for $325 used is very solid and is still worth what I paid 10 years ago. They don't make the low end amps anymore though.
What about a Fender Blues Junior? It's a tube amp but it does not have a standby switch. I usually use my TU-2 tuner to mute the signal while it warms up, is that good or bad?
I have a Vox Valvetronix AD30-VT that has a tube in the preamp stage. There is no stand-by switch on the amp, but should I still let it warm up for a bit before playing?
might sound gay but reminds me of the guitar hero guitar lol.. but yeah if there was a lil bit more black in the guitar i'd love the sunburst on there. but that guitar really reminds me of SRV's guitar
stand by switches are annoying, once at church i looked at the bass amp light, thinking it was on i didnt adjust it and i played the entire final set w/o sound!
This video should be deleted, it's COMPLETEY WRONG! Just do the opposite
90gosa90 1 week ago
When you have it on standby and then you turn the amp on... do you turn standby off or leave it on?
DieByTheDrop 2 months ago
Hahaha..madness!
spacemonkeyzass 6 months ago
Hey Dave I own aFender BLues Junior and that doesnt have a StandBySwitch and therefor when i play out with myband and we go on break i usually just keep the amp on and turn my volume down on the amp. the other guitarist says i should keep the amp on to keep the tubes hot. I am wondering,What should i do about this situation? I don't want to wear my tubes out in the amp but now i think i should shut the amp off on set breaks and turn it back on when we go back to playing. What is your thoughts?
dkstryker 8 months ago
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dkstryker 8 months ago
hey guys so if this dude is wrong, whats the right way to leave the amp ON while ure out on a short break? and how do you switch it off properly?
inis99999 11 months ago
@inis99999
Go into standby during breaks.
ThieleM 10 months ago
DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR............DELETE THIS VIDEO UNLESS YOU'RE ACTUALLY WANTING PEOPLE TO RUIN THEIR AMPS! YOUR ADVICE ON TUBE LIFE IS MAKING ME THINK YOU'RE A TUBE ON YOUTUBE
posthumous5 1 year ago
so wait... if the proper procedure is to turn the power on, then wait 30 sec to a min., then turn the standby on for like 1-2 min. do I still keep the standby on while I play? I don't see why since they are just for warming up. Do I just do the above then turn the standby off then start playing? then when I am completely done playing do I just turn the power off?
Bludhoundz8 1 year ago
should it be put on standby when changing inputs (normal to top boost)?
ShimmyPilates 1 year ago
This video is kind of dangerous. I am not sure if it is flat out wrong or if the speaker is just in articulate. On any amp with a standby...when the power is off the standby is ON....when an amp is on standby the unit will not make sound. With your power ON you would then turn the standby OFF to get sound from the amplifier.
'rockongoodpeople' means well but this channel is rich with bad information.
ThieleM 1 year ago
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ThieleM 10 months ago
Remember that the standby and power switch are OPPOSITE when one says 'On" or 'Offf' When the standby is on that means the standby is in the position that prevents sound from leaving the amp. When the standby is off the amp will produce sound.
1. Turn the main Power on, wait a minute or so.
2. turn standby off (the knob will be in the same position as the power's on position) the amp will now work.
Power down:
power off, standby on (both switches in same 'direction')
ThieleM 10 months ago
the best way is, i think u should remove this video and make another correct one. :)
silentboy85 1 year ago
you know tht you told ppl the totally wrong method of turnin the amp on :P
Bissmarkpl 1 year ago 2
r those emgs in his guitar
holyass242 1 year ago
Tube cathode strip is not realy a problems in guitar amps...the standby switch will do little to prolonge the life of tube in typical guitar amp unless your plate Voltage is extremy high...stanby still usefull for muting...
Gagaprou1 2 years ago
mmines not a tube but it crackles when really loud when i turn my guitars volume down what does that mean?
RaspberryJams69 2 years ago
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Bissmarkpl 1 year ago
how long do i have to do the checkp up on my amp? one year?
carol689 2 years ago
If my tube amp is scratchy what does that mean? My speakers are blown? Tubes are worn out? Im really dissapointed in my BRAND NEW EVH 5150 III. Im going to be mad if my tubes are already bad.
gibsongod15 2 years ago
What happens if my tube amp doesnt have a standby switch? Will my tubes wear? I havent replaced the tubes in 14 years or so. I also havent played it in 9 years....
DoubleHeliX1337 2 years ago
If the tubes lasted 5+ years or so a standby switch won't be nessesary (don't fix if it's not broken). But to be safe, I'll try to get a SB switch added if I were you. Ofcourse if you haven't played it in 9 years why bother anyway.
PDvdw1994 2 years ago
It actually depends on your amp. Most Marshalls make you put the Power on first to prolong Tube Life, and other amps like Fenders with them want Standby before power. It all depends on what you have, and that's why you need to refer to the manuals.
CriticsConfession 2 years ago
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CriticsConfession 2 years ago
Dave you I believe you are wrong:
ManMartin 2 years ago
Please take any schematic of a fender tube amp and you will come back and modify this video. The power switch is like to plug the current cable in the wall (it gives main power to the amp) and the stand by switch cuts the main power to the tubes (+B) but NOT the "warm up" filament current (so the tubes still light and become hot).
ManMartin 2 years ago
As the red light in the from panel of the amp gets the current from the filaments you always know that the are in "warm up" status. So the stand by switch really cuts the main current to the tubes and but lets the filaments on (puts the amp in stand by, logic ugh?) but the power switch is a master power for the entire amp!).
ManMartin 2 years ago
Light but no sound means stand by mode, light with sound means normal operation mode. NO light means power off (don't matter if stand by on or off, there is no current the same when the amp is unplugged). The correct way to turn on starting wit h both switches off is 1- stand by off and power on, 2 wait the time you consider and then stand by on. To turn off do it in reverse order to be ready for the next time you turn on.
ManMartin 2 years ago
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ManMartin 2 years ago
But I must to admit that your explanation is correct, only you are a little bit confused (in my opinion) about the function of the switches. Maybe because I am a fender tube amp user only I am not familiar with the amp you are talking about but please check this matter twice cause your videos can influence many people. Cheers from Spain.
ManMartin 2 years ago
For Home Practicing a Little Gigs Guys, Stay Solid State! And Stay Combo!
809Metallica 2 years ago
seriously. this vids are finaly ehlping me understand amps xD awesome! thank you very much!
beridon 2 years ago
It must be just me, but I don't like that fake smile of his.
swullen 2 years ago
not just you.
PKTO92 2 years ago 2
Dave does have it wrong. The standby switch does nothing without power applied to the amp.
On my Marshall:
Start with both Power and Standby off
Power on
Wait about a minute
Standby on
Play
skyliner4444 2 years ago 2
so whos is right? you are dave? I don't know who to believe - do you have a link to a professional website of how to use the standby switch.
joejoeirish 2 years ago
Go to the Marshall web site and download any of their tube amp handbooks. They give the proper procedure for using the power and standby switches.
skyliner4444 2 years ago
Yeah, the Marshall website. Download ANY of their manuals for a tube amp, and it will say the proper way to use it.
CriticsConfession 2 years ago
this video is taking for ever to load (after this commente they'll be 70 so there's 69 now haha) can some explain it to me
liberalsocialist353 2 years ago
download speedbit video accelortator
ReebHound 2 years ago
is that like a firefox plug in
liberalsocialist353 2 years ago
No its standbye first for a bout 1 min, then power on hes right Ive been using tube amps since 03
TheBJKiD 2 years ago
This is backwards. Starting with both switches off, you turn the POWER switch on first. Let it warm up a little, plug in your guitar, get your initial levels turned where you want them, then take it off STANDBY. Now if you want to switch guitars or unplug, put it on standby and unplug. Its more for safe plugging in and unplugging and keeping your tubes warm without being turned on and off back and forth, rather than a warmup switch. Its more of a safety switch to keep the amp healthy.
herbiesnerd 2 years ago
dude, thanks, i don't own a tube amp, but still, for future referance, yeah.
kylerguitarist 2 years ago
shit man i would kill for that guitar that is such a nice finish
iplaytheguitar73 2 years ago
You can get a mexi strat that looks just like it for about $400, $430 for the sunburst finish. It will probably come with a white pickguard... you can get a black one for $20.
keryadams 2 years ago
i know i just realized that the only difference was the white pick guard..lol but man it makes it look so much better than the white in my opinion
iplaytheguitar73 2 years ago
yeah but his strat has emg's in it. it is a custom or he moded it him self.
THEassWIPPER 2 years ago
i love you man you guys are so energetic and awesome!
nooneisusingthisname 2 years ago
The video is reverse of the proper method. If you follow the video, you will cause damage to the tubes that you are trying to prevent. The right way is:
1. Start with both switches OFF.
2. Turn on Power/ON switch. a. Pilot light comes on. b. Tubes start glowing. c. No sound yet.
3. Wait 15-30 sec.
4. Turn on Standby switch.
5. Now you have sound. time to rock.
A better video would be at the amp showing switches, pilot light & tubes during the sequence.
rjay58 2 years ago 9
Yeah i was just gonna make that comment. The ON switch is the on that brings power into it but to get noise through it you have to turn the standby off.
Abs9106 2 years ago
dude
my vox ac30 30th anaversary modle amp only has an on switch
do u know if this particular amps tube will wear out the same as a normal amp
xspagyx 2 years ago
don't worry , amps like this will have either a rectifier tube or a scillicone rectifier that has a delayed warm up that slowly warms the tubes preventing them getting hot too quickly , as a vozx runs class A the power tubes are running full temperature all the time and back in the 60's they designed the circuit to warm up this way .
when you turn it on or off , it's always best to turn all the volumes to zero to prevent damage to the speakers as well
hope this helps
BrotherPaul57 2 years ago
thanks dude but tell me why did you hold a guitar? you didint use it at all
abrak002 2 years ago
maybe he was playing with it before the recording started.
lonerkia 2 years ago
I don't understand.
In every amp instruction you get info that when it comes to turn the amp on - POWER switch comes first, then the STANDBY switch. Also if you have a break you only turn off STANDBY, not POWER. You misunderstood the meaning of warming up. Indeed STANDBY is to warm up tubes (definitely anode tension), but it doesn't mean it's being to switch on first!!!
Ask any pro guitar player or manufacturer for this. Or see amp instructions.
SzakalPolska 2 years ago
*being switch ;)
SzakalPolska 2 years ago
Hi - yes, that is what I meant - you are correct sir - when I say kick it on I mean that it is activated - my bad
rockon!
DT
rockongoodpeople 2 years ago
Just something I thought of...One thing you should mention is that you shouldnt move a tube amp until it has a chance to cool down because the filaments are weaker when they are hot. When cleaning up after a gig loading your amp should be the last thing you do and that will significantly extend tube life.
MacDrevi0us 2 years ago 2
hahahah this guys is awesome!!!!! he has lots of energy, good guitar player, explains stuff good and seems like a cool guy to have a beer with!!!!
no1000 2 years ago
does that mean ( I own a dsl marshall) when I DO power on, do I cut the stand by off?
izzydye 2 years ago
hi, your videos are great, thanks a lot
haimcito 2 years ago
i want lesson in portuguese :'(
eukicos 2 years ago
Hi Dave, this lesson was awesome. Thanks!
guitarfan84 2 years ago
this is so great!
TheFilipFors 2 years ago
Another important thing about valve amps (and to a certain extent solid state amps) is NEVER EVER have the amp switched on without speakers connected. I have even seen people who work in guitar shops unplug speakers from valve amps when they are on.
Many guitarists will tell you that ''they have done it loads of times'' and the amp has been ok. This is TOTALLY false, the problems usually manifest weeks or months later, when the amp is driven hard, the output transformer AND power valves fail.
Zed1967 2 years ago 5
Love the videos!!! always great content, rockongoodpeople!!!
Cypresspimp 2 years ago
dude, ...I heard that it was half an hour then you can play O.o damn.
holyswordsmanoffaith 2 years ago
5 stars, cause i have that shirt!
julez2k9 2 years ago
how much does it cost to replace a tube?
diego2888 2 years ago
Response to diego2888--
In terms of the actual cost of a tube, depends on brand and where you buy them. As a very general rule of thumb, one new power tube will go for between $20-$40, and one new preamp tube will run between $10-$20, with some higher priced tubes too.
If you are talking about labor to replace tubes, as in getting a tech to do it, I don't know. I maintain my own tube amps, so I never paid someone to do it for me. I don't think it's that much though.
Draugoth 2 years ago
whoa, isn't it the opposite? I have been told and have heard numerous times that you power it up and wait then flip the standby switch.
TJGProductions 2 years ago 2
How long do you think you could go until you need to replace a tube?
pudgeinator 2 years ago
depends how much u play, but maybe 6 months if your playing everyday, 3 if your picky
foxtrotalex 2 years ago
i want that strat
elemental212 2 years ago 2
i want that fucking strat dude
stevenhyde1960 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the lesson. Now I have a good idea how to properly use my Fender Twin Reverb. I would usually just turn on standby then wait 5 seconds and power it up. You made sense and I will probably have the tubes changed soon. Rock on, good people!
metlguitar02 2 years ago
yeah cigarette for me b\w songs! lol!
eroticblack 2 years ago
Thanks Dave.
Dave0fcleveland 2 years ago
good to see your thumb is better
jwood5150 2 years ago
I want that strat!
ltferguson 2 years ago
What if there is no stand by on my tube amp. I own the blues jr. tweed edition. Anybody have suggestions?
AlanDavidMusic 2 years ago
then you've got nothing to worry about, just hit the on swtich and play to your heart's content
popomczowzow 2 years ago
Well according to the Vox manual you should power the AC's on and leave on standby for 2 to 3 minutes...
so simply RTFM...
ckrohm 2 years ago
Use common sense? C'mon Dave, we're guitar players, not drummers! :-)
Stratomacaster 2 years ago 4
Very useful! I also thought using the standby for powering off didn't make any sense :)
Sick1982 2 years ago
what is a good affordable tube amp for playing hard rock? (for kinda small gigs)
thrashmetal1029 2 years ago
well its not super affordable, but any MESA BOOGIE amp would be great
munkych33z 2 years ago
Boogies hold their value very well and their prices are relatively the same as comparable high end amps. All Boogies are American made by hand and have solid reputation. My subway rocket I got for $325 used is very solid and is still worth what I paid 10 years ago. They don't make the low end amps anymore though.
igotwhips 2 years ago
try a peavey valveking
N1nja32 2 years ago
I wouldnt suggest a tube amp for hard rock, its more of a blues classic sound to it.
Joetehpsycho 2 years ago
WTF?????? Its tube amps that give that rock sound look up all great rock,hard rock,metal,ets bands most of them use tubes
mindcrazer 2 years ago
No, Joe, 99.9 percent of professional guitar players of all styles use tube amps.
216trixie 2 years ago
yo i use one its amazing
manning55 2 years ago
you dont know what you're talking about, most modern metal bands today are using tube amps
chriscoooley 2 years ago
you are right, I was watching "that metal show" and Anvil was playing and i noticed that the guitarist was using a Fender Twin Reverb.
WhiteStrat1 2 years ago
lol lips
rickyjshiznit 2 years ago
rock on guys
lifedelay 2 years ago
lolll 5:15 Of of of of.. xD Priceless :P
SonicSpeedsMyGame 2 years ago
What about a Fender Blues Junior? It's a tube amp but it does not have a standby switch. I usually use my TU-2 tuner to mute the signal while it warms up, is that good or bad?
Asking4Disaster 2 years ago 2
You are the man David. Appreciate the info
Phishboy26 2 years ago
I have a Vox Valvetronix AD30-VT that has a tube in the preamp stage. There is no stand-by switch on the amp, but should I still let it warm up for a bit before playing?
shadowmanjack 2 years ago
no that should be ok, companies make amps like that, so you can plug turn and play.
ahvaimusicom 2 years ago
I love that Strat. the black looks good on the sunburst!
jahenx94 2 years ago
might sound gay but reminds me of the guitar hero guitar lol.. but yeah if there was a lil bit more black in the guitar i'd love the sunburst on there. but that guitar really reminds me of SRV's guitar
xXBlinDXx12 2 years ago
its lovely i want to know what the pickups are they dont look stock
mickyhodge 2 years ago
informative
danukenator123 2 years ago
YEAH DAVID TAUB!
joemunkey30 2 years ago
JEAH
Nockgale 2 years ago
stand by switches are annoying, once at church i looked at the bass amp light, thinking it was on i didnt adjust it and i played the entire final set w/o sound!
StopTheMoti0n 2 years ago
YEAHH!
Kimmocheck 2 years ago 2