not a fan of Inda, Pakistan is developing more quickly into a true modern nation, besides Caste system is worse than Apartheid. plus Kashmir belongs to Pakistan.
All those who are wondering the song at the start.....it is... "Heer Waris Shah", it’s been sung by lot of singers, ....just search for the title ...my fav one is as following:
v=6zsVZfu2nrw on you tube...its been sung by Gurdas Mann
the only thing is rising in indi is their ass like monkey raise ass, what are you proud of ? poverty, dirt poor people of indi. milions of them sleep on side walks. while siniffing cow shit on side walks. in indi monkeys have better life than most indies. at least people throw to them rotten banna or apple. what a shame? india ca not feed millions of mouth. indi can not provide shelter to millions. animals in indi have better life than humans. dy choodiey pay choodiey aur bachon key line.
@theonecom Lol, I pity you Troll, you've got no life so you come here and troll for attention. If I ever come across "infected water" in India, I'll be sure to let you know, so you can drink it and do us all a favor.
i consider indians the most civilized ppl in the world. sure they got corruption, sure theres some conflict btwn religions, but if u took 1billion americans and put us in a place that small itd b anarchy at the rate we're already killing us as it is
America is the world's only superpower. But it is cute how all you other countries try to be on the top like America is. I don't see anyone immigrating to your shitty country :)
In commenting, India has enrich Westerners with the concept of better living without the stresses that consume us. I really enjoyed this video from abc news
for the country to be developed they have to have the infrastructure. But india does not. To build all those water, electrical, sewage lines highways when everything is already built is really hard, they should have done it first. Oh man, but Indans here in USA? Fucck hardest people you will ever meet. Not the ones who are already born here, but the ones who came, they will squeeze you before giving you a dollar and talk hours for $20 discount.
I have never got anything resolved with indians on phone support. they are unable to reason, they are like drones. whenever i heard that accent on the other line I just hang up. also the men hate women.
at the end of the day though, regardless if oh both hindu and muslim wanted pakistan out, or oh look this happens everywhere.
when you take the problems that pakistan and india have in the modern era, then compare with mughal and british india, what conclusion comes to mind? can i say that mughal and british did a better job dealing with something that in modern times resulted in multiple wars and terrorist attacks?
i think yes. and you havent shown why that doesnt make sense. like, you say how could indians have known that in the future pakistan would go to war with them.
you cant. but its a pretty damn obvious fact that if they held it together there wouldnt be another country to go to war with in the first place.
@angryaznman (Continued)...problems of Indo/Pak are unrelated to the problems of the Brits and Mughals. Youd do realize that the Mughals faced numerous separatist attacks by Hindus, and many of them were quite successful in fragmenting the Mughals in both their earlier and latter days (e.g, the Marathas, The Sikh Empire, Rajputs, etc, etc.) right? These separatist movements weakened and disintegrated the empire till it fell apart. Mughals and British did it for awhile - both resulted in failure.
@angryaznman (Continued)...Oh one more thing: this whole debate has been about me being on the defensive to try and dispel your rudeness and hatred, so if that's your style, then I think done here. I'm not going to bother trying to convince some random hater over the anonymous confines of the internet. So if that's your nature, it ain't worthwhile to try to debate with you; who spends his time (spare or majority) to deride other ethnicities/nationalities simply for his own amusement. Kthnxbai.
2. nope. mughals were not mongol. wtf. have you SEEN mongolians compare with central asian? they look SIMILAR, but they are NOT the same. the central asian were used by the mongol khans, but they were not the actual mongol khans. gimme a break.
3. thats a joke. go wiki british india. even india today remain a commonwealth country.
@angryaznman = WESTERN BIGOT EVERYONE, WESTERN BIGOT!!!
To ALL ASIANS, & PEOPLE
Western savages are using dirty tactics of divide & conquore!! Many western TROLLS on the net with ASIAN/MUSLIM/HINDU/YEEHUDEE/INDIA//CHINESE/IRAN etc etc etc with fake names, LIKE THIS FOOL to create hate BEWARE!!
IT IS ARYAVARTA not ARYAN you western BIGOT!!! There is no such thing as ARAYAN, only inferior western savages created this fantasy, this black lies!!!
We all have to live and die, so the truth about life and death concerns and applies to us all. True or false? Search "TRUTH CONTEST" in Google and click the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says to learn the Truth. Let's get serious and honest about the truth of life.
aryans were not native indian. mughals were not native indian. british were not native indian. history will never change. the only reason india is even a country is because of the british. and already what did you lose? pakistan? bangladesh? you lost them because indians dont know how to hold a country together like other foreign peoples.
@angryaznman lol go take ur medicine and leave the SOMA alone. its no good for you. Atleast have the good sense to stop commenting here after i handed your ass to you. lol you are high on enthusiasm and zero on facts. bad combination.
look i dont hate you but you are very misinformed. u know british ruled over India. the western academics fudge numbers on archaeological facts to fit everything into biblical time frames. this is done intentionally and it is dishonest. if you want facts let me know and i will post the sources.try ckraju.net for history and philosophy of science and maths. there is lot stuff in the bible taken from indian scriptures, i mean same names, same stories. brahma became abraham.
brahma became abraham. now that is interesting. i did hear that the catholic church vehemently denies jesus went to study in india. meanwhile in india they believe it to be so.
i havnt done any research on Jesus in India so i cant answer you honestly on that but there are places there with bible names. As for the stuff plagiarized from Indian scriptures in the Bible, i will give you few examples. Brahma=Abraham,his wife Sarasvati=Sara, the same story of his wife also being his sister and Abraham had an affair on the side just like Brahma.story of Noah- Satyavarman(sons-Jyapeti,Sham,Shem=Noah(Japheth,Ham,Shem)lol even the rains fell for 40days and nights.
the exact same thing with the 3 brothers walking in on the king passed out naked and the king cursing one of them to be servant of servants.copied word for word only minor changes in names. funny thing is these are only historical tales for us but they constructed 3 religions based on them and then turn around and call us Hindus primitives.in fact the church used to believe in reincarnation until 553AD. lol you face christians with some facts and they never answer back.
Adam and eve story is from Mahabharata- they were Adamis and Hevas originally. about the earlier Noah similarity I sometimes confuse between names so if any mistakes please excuse me. but the similarities are there, name for name and plot for plot.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
- Source: The New Testament, Gospel of John 1.1
In the beginning was the word (Vai), and the word (Vai) was with Brahma (God), and the word (Vai) was Brahma (Prajapati vai idam agra asit, Tasya vak dvitiya asit, Vag vai paramam Brahma)
What is the title of Indian story- there is the book of Mahabharata which is about the 18 day war between Kauravas and Pandavas at Kurukshetra, This battlefield was the location where the Bhagavad Gita was told to Arjuna by the Supreme Lord in His Krishna Avatar.
Matsya Purana(chronicles of the fish) which is about the deluge.
i have them on different websites but unfortunately not in english.
@angryaznman Actually, India is a nation because of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, not the British. There have been three phases in Indian history in which India was a unified state, with of course some geographical differences: The Maurya Empire (wholly Indian), The Mughal Empire, and the British Raj. The current borders and unity seen in India is a result of the work of Patel's work. Btw, I often see you trolling about on videos of India - what exactly do you have against the Indians, hmm?
im not trolling. you said exactly what i said. 1 out of 3 unification was actually indian. the british used the division of india to their advantage. thats why they controlled india with such little effort. and you are going to sit there and tell me indias unification was a given without the british....when its division was why british got it in the first place.....riiight
@angryaznman I would also like to point out that the largely pastoral IVC inhabitants were most likely far superior to the invading Aryans, in terms of cultural development. Sure, there's a lot of evidence to point out the validity of the AIT, but does that mean the culture of the Mauryans was foreign? No, considering Dharmic culture is a mixture of Harappan and Aryan influence. The feminine and pastoral aspect of native Harappan beliefs went well with the pantheistic beliefs of the Aryans.
@angryaznman The fact is several other migrations have molded humanity to what it is today. Such migrations include the movement of West-Germanic speaking peoples (Anglo-Saxons) into the British Isles to replace the Celts; the movement of Turkic speaking peoples into what is now Turkey; the migration of Austronesian speaking peoples into Malaysia and the Sunda Islands to replace the Austro-Asiatic Orang Asli. It's a part of Indian history that I cherish, for without it, I would not be here.
@angryaznman You also seem to be suggesting Indian refers to some unified, homogenous group of people who all act and think alike. That's funny. Considering India is a rich tapestry of various ethno-linguistic communities and religious groups, it is extremely difficult to create a state to benefit the interests of every group. If Indians were unable to hold a country together like you say, then every nation that has ever existed on the subcontinent would have been an anarchy - false obviously.
@angryaznman It's not that India is incapable of keeping nations such as Pakistan and Bangladesh within her borders; it's simply because it is both in our and their best interests that they receive independence. The only parts of British India that aren't parts of India today are Pakistan, Bangladesh (which separated from PAK), and Sri Lanka. India has even managed to keep the Northeast within her borders, which shares little cultural affinity to the mainland.
lol whats the difference how they ended up not being part of india...as for the north east, by manage to keep you mean because China gave back the land they captured during the border war.
@angryaznman That's incorrect; the only border dispute was for Arunachal Pradesh, which hardly represents all of the Northeast. All the border disputes between the two nations have been between one state - Arunachal - which India administers anyway, regardless of Chinese claims. Apart from that, states like Tripura, Manipur, Mizoram, Meghalaya, and Nagaland were a part of British India which has never been disputed following India's independence.
@angryaznman Lying to you? When did I say that I didn't recognize the separatist movements in India? Do you think that makes a difference in governance. It is firmly a part of India, and the vast majority of Northeasterners are happy to be Indian; many of them migrate to the "mainland" for greater job opportunities. There are separatist movements in Xinjiang and Xizang, does that mean they're not firmly controlled by China? Certain CM's of the NE are even part of the BJP. You're trying too hard
@angryaznman Oh, more influence in India, is that so? Proof? We willingly separated from Pakistan. Sri Lanka received its independence from the U.K., not India, and Bangladesh received its independence from Pakistan - not India - in 1971. Pakistan was created in the realization of the ensuing Muslim riots. We gladly gave up Pakistan, as Nehru would attest if he were alive today. There is no weakening of India's hold in the NE. I agree, you're not trying hard enough now.
@Dzongka LOL willingly separated. again, what does it matter? you had it, now you dont. all you said was they made the situation bad enough that both wanted to separate. thats what separatist movements do.
@angryaznman You seem to believe that the Hindus were somehow put in charge of the actions of the Muslims in British India, and that they were somehow responsible for the disintegration of the British Raj into two main entities. I'll have you know that the divide-and-rule policy of the Brits, furthered by their support for the All-India Muslim Conference and the Muslim League, as well as the placement of the Muslims on a separate electorate than the Hindus, fostered the individuality among...
Muslims. You see, it wasn't a separatist movement, but a clash between the two - Muslims and Hindus(everyone else) - that resulted in the formation of a separate state. Since, Pakistan gained its independence BEFORE India, you cannot say it was the fault of independent India that Pakistan was let go. Nor was this the cause of separatist movements on one side alone, but both sides. it was the doing of both sides. Hence, partition was wholeheartedly accepted.
@angryaznman The concept of a united India did not emerge until the actual independence of India, which as I said before, happened AFTER Pakistan's independence. You see, I think you've forgotten your original claim. Your original claim was "Indians cannot hold a country together". Well, it wasn't the Indians that let go of the Muslims in the country - which wasn't even theirs at that point - it was the British, who had inadvertently planted the seed of separatism in their own colony, and it...
...was the British who had let go of a big chunk of their land in the form of East Pakistan and West Pakistan, PRIOR to India's independence; in other words, even if it had to do with religion, it was not independent India's doing. On the idea that Indian Muslims and Hindus don't want anything to do with each other - India has the third largest Muslim population on Earth; there are no more separatist movements for them than there are for Mexicans in the U.S. The Soviet...
Union fell apart into 15 separate states, does that mean the Russians are poor at keeping a nation? Yugoslavia similarly fragmented; does that indicate something similar? Once vast Ottoman Empire decimated into several states, one (Israel) which is dominated by foreigners. Again, in light of religious tensions that were detrimental in nature, it was neither in the Britishers' or the Indians' (regardless of religion) best interests to stay united - this applies to any nation.
@Dzongka dude, there were multiple wars between Pakistan and India. you cant blame british for everything. its simply a lie. they might have encouraged it, but personally, i think hindus were resentful of muslims since the Mughal Empire.
as for Russia, HELL YES. look how many states they lost. although they are making it up with the Shanghai Corporation and the Collective Security Treaty Organization.
@angryaznman (Continued) On your second point, the Mauryas rose and fell when there were NO MUSLIMS and "India" was populated by Dharmic religion, hence unity was easier to forge. During British Rule, both sides resented each other, so a united India with many Muslims and Hindus did not seem like a good idea to ANYONE, hence the main reason for separation. I'm not blaming the Brits for modern confrontations - you're twisting my words. The hostility between the two is a result of border disputes.
@Dzongka religion isnt the only dividing factor in india. whether maurya had to deal with muslims or not is inconsequential. for muslims specifically, the Mughals did it. the point hasnt changed. all you keep doing is bringing forth new reason to how what was once part of british india, isnt anymore. it doesnt matter if it was religion, or that 'BOTH SIDES' wanted to w/e. whether what is a good idea to ANYONE.
@angryaznman (Continued) ... individual Indian STATES. So you see, this observation isn't limited to India, but is found throughout the world, so you cannot simply propose that Indians are bad at keeping a nation together. On the point that "the end result is already done". Well, yes, but understand this: there is little practicality in keeping a nation unstable by having a setup that's not wanted by the VAST MAJORITY of the nation's inhabitants, so there's no merit in attempting to keep unity..
@Dzongka lmao you think the situation between pakistan and india is more stable now.
you do realize they just terror attacked india again recently right?
in fact, id say if pakistan was a part of india, india would have a hell of a lot easier time stopping these terrorists. even in base terms like jurisdiction and police and patrols.
@angryaznman (Continued)...Muslim population in the world - most of whom are content with living in India. Most of your points are becoming off topic; that Indians cannot hold a country together (which is your point), isn't related to sour relations between two nations. How could have the Indians foreseen (in fact, how could have anyone foreseen) the future sour relations between Pakistan and India when they were splitting apart? It's unfair to criticize in such a manner. And it's not as if...
@angryaznman (Continued)...Kashmir was really a problem then, was it? Like I said, focusing on two nations in the world (Pakistan and India - Greater India) on the argument that Indians are poor at keeping a nation together is wholly unwarranted, as such situations have and do exist(ed) in the past and the present in other parts of the world. Realize that this is not unique to India. Your focus on India appears hateful in all regards. Thanks.
@angryaznman Haha. Don't try and cover up the fact that you sincerely hate Indians. I've seen your comments elsewhere, and you're usually saying things that sound pretty hateful. In other words, your username - your anger - seems to be directed mostly at Indians. You deliberately came to this video, just to say BS and project libel against Indians. Don't you have better things to do? I base this off of you saying similar things on other videos. I've seen your comments on Kalaripayattu and...
@angryaznman (Continued)...finally, on your second comment, what particular "idea" are you referring to? The idea that there should be separate and sovereign Muslim state apart from the main "Hindu/Secular" state was propagated by the Mughals and the British? Uhhh....what? If that's not what you were referring to, please let me know lol.
i am a rude person, that is my style, as per my username. but if all you looked at was me in indian vids, then no duh you are going to think i have it in for indians. im actually being far nicer to you than i am to viets, for example.
you claimed its my idea that pakistan is part of greater india is better. i told you, its not an idea. better, who really knows. it failed in the end, BUT mughal and british both did it for awhile. is india better with the muslim influence or no? subjective
@angryaznman Islamist extremism (as we know it today) is a new phenomenon of the late 20th century, so obviously not. You're throwing a red herring at me by referring to Islamist extremism because such organized militancy and hostility were absent during both foreign rules. One can tell you that the Mauryas were equally successful to the British and the Mughals, so I don't get where you're going with that point. The Palis of Bengal also did a good job of uniting India. Modern problems...
@angryaznman I just found out that you called Indians "inferior monkeys" on another video. Haha, yeah, if I had any respect for you in terms of debate, I've lost all of it. Get a life, bro.
@angryaznman (Continued)...In fact, that's just plain detrimental to a society. This has been shown time and time again throughout the world. Think about humanity before you think about the size of a nation - this has nothing to do with a people's ability to keep a nation. And if it does, you should also be proposing that the BRITISH, the FRENCH, the DUTCH, the SPANISH, the PORTUGUESE, the ITALIANS, as well as the CHINESE, who lost Mongolia following the Qing Dynasty. In fact, by your theory...
@angryaznman (Continued)...most of humanity would be considered poor nation builders when various ethno-linguistic, religious, or any other distinctions come into being a part of the same nation. To summarize, such a situation is normally incompatible, and has USUALLY, not OCCASIONALLY, resulted in the decimation of a nation. So your focus on India, which currently has a greater ethno-linguistic, religious, "what-have-you" diversity than all of Europe, is highly unwarranted. Thank you.
@Dzongka then theres all the wars fought with pakistan. i highly doubt if they were part of india they could amass an actual nation military.
nah, i dont buy that whole 'situation is more stable to separate, we didnt want unity'. i think it made the divide far worse. the wars speak for itself.
you talk about indias great diversity, but at the same time saying you couldnt work it out with the muslims. because you didnt want to or w/e lol.
@angryaznman You do realize this whole situation is over Kashmir, right? Divided any other way, such a conflict would most likely not exist. Your idea that Pakistan would have been better off as a part of Greater India is just that - and idea, so it has about as much clout as me saying something similar. And why do you focus on India? What kind of satisfaction do you get by reprimanding a whole people for something that could and has occurred elsewhere? India has the world's 3rd largest...
@angryaznman (Continued)...Silambam vids; and while I agree Kung Fu and Indian martial arts have independent origins and have scarcely influenced each other at best, I completely disagree with how you propagate your ideas with hateful words directed at Indians. Target the individual - not the nationality! So no, I'm most definitely not confused. And since I've given evidence for my verdict, I hope you would do the same for yours, and not simply base it off what you PERCEIVE to be "fact" And...
@Dzongka i dont agree with that. concept of united india started with Maurya Empire, IMO.
anyway, there is no way the British seeds of anything could have separated Pakistan if everyone wanted to stay together.
you can see all over YT RIGHT NOW how pakistani and indian feel about each other. look at any cricket game. this isnt british doing and anyway can see it.
@angryaznman I will reiterate my point. Your original point was that Indians cannot hold a country together, so unless you're trying to prove something else entirely, you're missing the point. If Indians did not hold sway in their country, they were not responsible. And if they did not want a nation with BOTH sides agreeing on that, that is not separatism, and it has nothing to do with managing a country. [Please continue reading this time..]
@Dzongka i will as well. british united india. people in india were the ones who ruined that unity. if you think managing a country was only about administration then you are very ignorant of how a country functions. managing a country is a population wide task.
@angryaznman And if they didn't want to be united, what difference does it make if they managed their country? They didn't let go of PAK because they had to; they weren't united in the first, and they didn't want to be united, make sense? Take a look at Europe - each country is clearly homogenous in almost every aspect. Through centuries of nation-building, eventually any empire which stretched itself too thin and far has fallen. Europe now consists of nations that resemble...
@Dzongka its not about whether its indian muslim or indian hindu's faults. its indians. all you have shown now is from the start they wanted nothing to do with each other.
@angryaznman In addition, even though for most of its history, India has been a cluster of kingdoms, these individual kingdoms were immensely well-off and had particularly efficient governing systems. Prior to the conquest by the Magadha kingdom to form the Maurya Empire, despite constant war, the individual Mahajanapadas (16 in total) were quite prosperous and one even had a working democracy - Vajjian Confederacy (the first Republic on Earth). Each had an efficient governing system.
LMAO arya is all over the rig veda ok? for the last time, much of the rig veda's described culture mirrors the proto indo euro of iran and central asia. everybody knows this. go look at the linguistic evidence as well.
i dont care how insecure you indians are about aryans because the mughals did the same shit. they were from the same route the aryans took as well. so go figure.
now indias most famous landmark is the islamic taj mahal. get over it.
dude if the mughals had done the same shit then all Indians would be muslims which is not the case, is it? I suggest you google a few names-Maharana Pratap, Prithviraj Chauhan, Rana Sangha, Rana Kumbha, Chatrapati Shivaji and Guru Gobind Singh.
google Jauhar
the muslim occupation of India was never pleasant for the invaders. lot of falsehoods in the version of history taught in schools in India, make it seem like hindus didnt fight and just lost. Not true.
its not misinformation. it is written in the rig veda that Indra loved soma. and yet that isnt even in India. go look at the wiki page for Indra - Origins. Indo European is all over it.
and once again, indian texts make ample mention of Arya and Aryans. why do you pretend this isnt true?
In Sanskrit and related Indic languages, Arya refers to one of high birth or caste. Although Aryas were concentrated in North India. The term Arya is used 36 times in 34 hymns in the Rigveda.
look up Soma - Etymology. this indo aryan stuff is all over ancient india. why pretend?
Search google for a poem written by Labi-Bin-E- Akhtab-Bin-E-Turfa who lived in Arabia around 1850 BC. This verse can be found in Sair- Ul-Okul which is an anthology of ancient Arabic poetry. It was compiled in 1742 AD under order of the Turkish Sultan Salim.
And who were these high caste people who appeared magically in India? from where? dont beat around the bush, give me names. it was the other way around. A lie, no matter how confidently stated, is still a lie.
wasnt magical....they came from central asia, to iran, into india. you seem to have trouble grasping just how much in common the aryans had with other proto indo european groups. with key parts of their culture, being NOT found in india. like the soma plant.
ok wasnt magical... so where is their wealth of literature on the Vedas and other subjects which were prevalent at that time in India? Or did they all decided en masse to travel to India? no particular reason but what the fuck lets all leave. that makes any sense to you? and which plant is the Soma plant? do you have the botanical name? or you just keep on repeating the usual drivel and hope that someone believes you?
ROFLMAO @ "if you watched the documentary" from BBC and "SEE WITH UR OWN EYES". The 1st thing I told u was that ur source has zero credibility. Lemme guess, ur a muslim, sad state of affairs if u ask me buddy. Funny thing about your argument is that you have none. Your confusion comes from following people like Max Muller who believed in biblical chronology. google Sarasvati river.
kid i dont have to pretend about anything. you are the one who starts with bbc. any intelligent person would crack his sides laughing at your silly attempt. and why do you keep harping on indo-aryans? it was Indians who moved out to other places. There are poems by Arabic scholars dating 100s of years before islam in which they clearly thank the people of India for the wonderful gifts of the Vedas. And not just the Vedas, India has given the world algebra, geometry and astronomy.
@bittubikaneri your reply had like zero to do with the aryan migration into india.....The term Arya is used 36 times in 34 hymns in the Rigveda.
still deny?
and india wasnt even 'india' until maurya. in fact a unified india happened 3 times in history. once by an indian, maurya. then mughal (central asian, same as aryan) and british.
Dear, pull your head out of your arse because you are spouting bs. Yes there was Chandragupta. there were also Ashoka, Samudragupta, Vikramaditya, Kharavela, Shivaji, Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Rana Kumbha, Maharana Pratap. There are more, Educate yourself. Those were feudal times. Why dont you come out and state your agenda clearly? As far as your beliefs about the so called aryans coming into India, those myths have been discredited so you can keep that drivel to yourself.
no, only ashoka would count. the rest did not get the indian sub continent.
you keep saying discredited but you arent the one doing it. you just keep saying it to make yourself feel better. i dont even know why it bothers you. India should be used to foreigners by now.
You have serious issues, you sound like a BRITISH CHAM CHAM black disease!!!
VEDA SANSKIT is ALL ASIAN, from India!!!
Just like SEMITES are ASIAN, that originate from WEST ASIA!!
You are clearly a INFERIOR 1492EURO as you said ARYAN, there is no such thing as ARYAN. It is ARYAVARTA!!
India has serious issues no doubt, ie
1,ENGLISH is the offical language spoken opposed to Hindi & SONIA is the face of western virus opperating in INDIA! This alone shows how mucj issues there are.
You know, no nation is perfect. It's all rise and fall. India was the richest nation in the world before it was conquered by the Persians first and then the English. It's rising again. I'm fond of India, USA, and Israel.
@onlypolar india wasnt even a nation. india has been united a whopping 3 times in history. only 1 by an actual indian (maurya). the mughals and british were the other two, both foreigners.
though foreign invasion is not new. ash a real indian historian about the aryans. who brought their culture to india and thought of themselves as superior to those in the indus valley civilization. hence "aryan" meaning civilized one.
lol what evidence? yeah matter of time indeed. you must be a christian or a muslim, they will believe anything. Seriously study from decent sources. Did you know they have discovered a submerged city off the coast of Gujarat, India? Not just a collection of huts but a very well planned city will all the indicators of a very developed civilization. Estimated age- 8000 BC.
prominent archeologists reject a piece of wood that was recovered by dredging and dated to 7500 B.C. as having any significance in dating the site.
Agrawal argues that the wood piece is a common find, given that 20,000 years ago the Arabian Sea was 100 meters lower than its current level, and that the gradual sea level rise submerged entire forests.
basically, its a piece of wood that is dated that far back.
Prominent archaeologists?? lol I am Spiderman and my spidey sense is tingling. Dude there is a lot of spin going on. So Rigveda came from Turks? lol and then it gloriously morphed into the islamic caliphate. do you even believe the bs that ur spouting? Maybe u should contact naik, he is big on bullshit too. Anyways how is islam working out for the turks? Its been heavenly for the Pakistanis lol.
@bittubikaneri they found a piece of wood there that dated that far back, and decided that meant the whole area was. they didnt find a city, they found rocks.
rigveda didnt come from turks. the aryan migration though is proto-indo aryan peoples. went to iran from central asia. then into india.
there is ample historical indian text that talk of the arya and aryans. why do you deny this?
Recent genetic study by University of Cambridge human genetics professor Dr. Toomas Kivisild in his 2007 genetic works show highest concentration of R1a1 gene found only in Indian Subcontinent and Gypsies(who are actually Indians). Who now backs, Out of India Theory. Aryans gene is Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA) R1a is home to India and R1a gene found to be 72% to 20% all the way up to Sri Lanka. India is the donor of Gene R1a and rest are recipients.
Brother you have to laugth, as these CHAM CHAM angryaznman, these creatures are the reason why ASIA is divided or IT could be a typical inferior western bigot. They follow a ASIAN man, they call jesus(fake name), thinking he is a westerner heheh.
Then you have the NEGRO CENTRISTS that have bought the theory of monkeys & humanity came out of Africa.
Fact remains ASIA, INDIA the MAA & BABA of civilization & perhaps humanity!!! Which we must PRESERVE!!
you deny something when someone puts something infront of you. you just go around in circles while i offer you the results of scientific research. indian people migrated outwards and the research proves that. i am talking of proof like NASA's satellite imagery, genetic research and archaeological diggings. lol step away from that glass of 'SOMA', you are losing your mind. if you have any conclusive facts(from valid sources-no bbc bs) to back your claims lets hear them. if not,bye.
@angryaznman On the idea that "Aryan" means "civilized one" - well that's somewhat false. "Arya", not "Aryan" means "noble". This concept was not meant to be used relative to the inhabitants of IVC, but simply an appellation used by the invaders to denote those of high respect within their own group. It was used differently by those who settled in Persia. In addition, the IVC was an extremely prosperous civilization, being the largest and most populous, as well having fully developed cities.
@TheBENGALHANNIBAL dont let the name fool you though. mughals were not real mongols nor were their ancestors. some central asian seem to have some identity issue and actually think the mongols were same race as them.
some turk even think genghis khan was their people. pretty crazy.
@15089643 Those particular IQ tests were actually taken in extremely impoverished areas such as Uttar Pradesh and Bihar where literacy is 50%-60%. Hence, the results were skewed. In addition, the IQ of other such Asian nations like China and Korea were tested in metropolises such as Shanghai and Seoul, in addition to such affluent cities like Singapore, and Hong Kong. Sorry, I don't trust conclusions that are deliberately skewed, no offense.
iq tests were done multiple times. most recently in 2006. there was no such skew.
Reviewed by J.Philippe Rushton in Personality and Individual Differences, 2006, 41, 983-5
highlights how the 2006 addresses all critics of 2002. yet both times the results are not only similar, but
To address the issue of the reliability of national IQs, they present results of 71 nations for which two independent measures of IQ have been obtained and show that the correlation between these is 0.95.
@angryaznman Agreed, but the fact that the vast majority of the subjects tested to portray South Asian IQ were poorly educated. In addition to testing barely literate people in India, Rushton decided to test those in Fiji and Mauritius, who are the descendants of indentured laborers, and are still very much impoverished. However scientifically accurate something may be, I will never support a racist outlook and distance myself from others simply on the basis of race, nationality, or ethnicity.
It is already becoming clear that a chapter which had a Western beginning will have to have an Indian ending if it is not to end in self-destruction of the human race. At this supremely dangerous moment in human history , the only way of salvation is the ancient Hindu way. Here we have the attitude and spirit that can make it possible for the human race to grow together in to a single family.
If you are a truth seeker, search "Truth Contest" in Google and click on the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says. Everyone needs to see this. The Present will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people.
India is an amazing country. America needs a lot more insight and education. And This goes back to 2007. Really we should be getting a lot more information on a daily basis. Look us up and also at tibetanphotoproject on Youtube.
young brownies will be less into education from the curropt society they live in .. they will be drawn into addictive things.. their derogatory behaviour will affect their mind set .. and spectators will visualise the experience in hand.
India is in the middle of a multi-billion dollar military spending spree that has quietly seen the country of Mahatma Gandhi and non-violent protest emerge as the world’s largest importer of arms. It is expected to retain that position for at least the next five years.
u can watch places and pplz look dirty bt they r hard workers, they r not living on govt. or council money which other countries do by cheating. proud to b an INDIAN
India and Israel have always had good relations. Israel's supplied India with highly military sophistication. India and Israel don't particularly like Muslims. India has a ten million man army so will someone tell me why India (1) doesn't get involved in the war against radical Islam (2) send manpower to the border areas of Israel's belligerent neighbors of Syria, Gaza and Lebanon? What is friendship worth if it's not upheld?
@theeviltwi9, so you're saying that Indian foreign policy is controlled by the Muslim minority? I've always seen India as a staunchly democratic nation that wouldn't tolerate being trampled on. You have an obligation to fight radical Islam and you're hamstrung. You are not doing right by us in NATO. It's impossible for me to believe that your Muslims cripple you on several fronts. Throw them OUT. Ship 'em to Pakistan. Who are they to threaten your government's proper policies?
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not a fan of Inda, Pakistan is developing more quickly into a true modern nation, besides Caste system is worse than Apartheid. plus Kashmir belongs to Pakistan.
therealrobjones 3 weeks ago
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All those who are wondering the song at the start.....it is... "Heer Waris Shah", it’s been sung by lot of singers, ....just search for the title ...my fav one is as following:
v=6zsVZfu2nrw on you tube...its been sung by Gurdas Mann
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India is the most racist country on Earth. Hindus are nazis.
karezza6 1 month ago
thanks for the great episode.
buddykiranjelli12 1 month ago
the only thing is rising in indi is their ass like monkey raise ass, what are you proud of ? poverty, dirt poor people of indi. milions of them sleep on side walks. while siniffing cow shit on side walks. in indi monkeys have better life than most indies. at least people throw to them rotten banna or apple. what a shame? india ca not feed millions of mouth. indi can not provide shelter to millions. animals in indi have better life than humans. dy choodiey pay choodiey aur bachon key line.
desikartoos2 1 month ago
@desikartoos2 get a life sucker!!
qmanzo 1 month ago
@desikartoos2 looking from your comment i guess you are musalmaan madarchod from pakistan
TheHinduzionist 2 weeks ago
@desikartoos2 ass hole 20 blown 30 injurd in pig;land today , eat camel shit and camel piss and keep praying to odhiambo .
pakidreamer 2 weeks ago
whats the name of the punjabi song which comes at 5.30
16fairyqueen 1 month ago
I think inidia is so awesome I have always wanted to go there.
ElMakz 2 months ago 2
god bless India!
monuatul 3 months ago 2
UR NEVER FILLING UP THAT VACANT TROPHY CABINET!
UR MORE SLIPPERY THAN SNAKES!
theonecom 3 months ago
@theonecom Lol, I pity you Troll, you've got no life so you come here and troll for attention. If I ever come across "infected water" in India, I'll be sure to let you know, so you can drink it and do us all a favor.
DeepakPawndU 3 months ago
@DeepakPawndU HOW DO U PUT TWO DIS-JOINTED THOUGHT PATTERNS TOGETHER U IMBECILE OF SMALL WORTH.
theonecom 3 months ago
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U DON'T DESERVE RIVERS, U POLLUTE THEM.
theonecom 3 months ago
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THE SUN SHINES HARDER THEN SNIDES:
" GO ON THEN, U LITTLE KUNTS, WALK TEN MILES FOR THAT BUCKET OF INFECTED WATER"
theonecom 3 months ago
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HURRY ALONG LEAPING BACKWARDS U CLOWNS, U ALL BELONG IN A CIRCUS
theonecom 3 months ago
GOAT HERDERS! OR IS THAT Z A-RABS?
theonecom 3 months ago
@theonecom Come on, don't be a troll man.
annamorganbaker 2 months ago
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U STOLE MY BOOKS, BUT U COULD'T F***ING READ EM COULD YA?
theonecom 3 months ago
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FUCK UR SHIT CULTURE
theonecom 3 months ago
WELCOME TO THE CITY LIFE LADIES, CIVILIZATION BECKONS
theonecom 3 months ago
WANKERS
theonecom 3 months ago
punjabi song :)
evilatsnipe 3 months ago
i consider indians the most civilized ppl in the world. sure they got corruption, sure theres some conflict btwn religions, but if u took 1billion americans and put us in a place that small itd b anarchy at the rate we're already killing us as it is
Timuramaru 3 months ago 24
Good make India better.. then stay there.
armourdude1 4 months ago
ALLAH JIHAD ALLAKBAR DURKA DURKA TAJ MAHALLA MUHAMMED
SMELLY PAKI INDIANS
ply155 4 months ago
i despise all caste systems
12valvepower1 4 months ago
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America is the world's only superpower. But it is cute how all you other countries try to be on the top like America is. I don't see anyone immigrating to your shitty country :)
GeorgeBushLicker 4 months ago
In commenting, India has enrich Westerners with the concept of better living without the stresses that consume us. I really enjoyed this video from abc news
naomikeepsakes 4 months ago
for the country to be developed they have to have the infrastructure. But india does not. To build all those water, electrical, sewage lines highways when everything is already built is really hard, they should have done it first. Oh man, but Indans here in USA? Fucck hardest people you will ever meet. Not the ones who are already born here, but the ones who came, they will squeeze you before giving you a dollar and talk hours for $20 discount.
vartart99 4 months ago
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yes we're not behind..we're with u....we just need time to kill the corrupt politicians and manage ourselves..
jak3uff 4 months ago
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india is dirty because politicians are...we should shoot these corrupt pigs...we should follow china's policy at least in this case..
jak3uff 4 months ago
I have never got anything resolved with indians on phone support. they are unable to reason, they are like drones. whenever i heard that accent on the other line I just hang up. also the men hate women.
chasbo13 4 months ago
at the end of the day though, regardless if oh both hindu and muslim wanted pakistan out, or oh look this happens everywhere.
when you take the problems that pakistan and india have in the modern era, then compare with mughal and british india, what conclusion comes to mind? can i say that mughal and british did a better job dealing with something that in modern times resulted in multiple wars and terrorist attacks?
angryaznman 5 months ago
i think yes. and you havent shown why that doesnt make sense. like, you say how could indians have known that in the future pakistan would go to war with them.
you cant. but its a pretty damn obvious fact that if they held it together there wouldnt be another country to go to war with in the first place.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman (Continued)...problems of Indo/Pak are unrelated to the problems of the Brits and Mughals. Youd do realize that the Mughals faced numerous separatist attacks by Hindus, and many of them were quite successful in fragmenting the Mughals in both their earlier and latter days (e.g, the Marathas, The Sikh Empire, Rajputs, etc, etc.) right? These separatist movements weakened and disintegrated the empire till it fell apart. Mughals and British did it for awhile - both resulted in failure.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@angryaznman (Continued)...Oh one more thing: this whole debate has been about me being on the defensive to try and dispel your rudeness and hatred, so if that's your style, then I think done here. I'm not going to bother trying to convince some random hater over the anonymous confines of the internet. So if that's your nature, it ain't worthwhile to try to debate with you; who spends his time (spare or majority) to deride other ethnicities/nationalities simply for his own amusement. Kthnxbai.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@angryaznman
1, The Mongols are ASIAN!!
2, Mughuls originate from TIMUR(tamerlane) which is Mongol through & through!!
3, The British never conqured all of India, in fact they used the corrupt corrupt RAJS!!
No shame TIMUR makes alexander look like a scared roman queer!! TIMUR was formiddable, he conqured Moscow too!!! Thats how the Mughuls came about!!
You are ceratinly NOT ASIAN, just a western BIGOT!!!
TheBENGALHANNIBAL 4 months ago
@TheBENGALHANNIBAL
1. yes
2. nope. mughals were not mongol. wtf. have you SEEN mongolians compare with central asian? they look SIMILAR, but they are NOT the same. the central asian were used by the mongol khans, but they were not the actual mongol khans. gimme a break.
3. thats a joke. go wiki british india. even india today remain a commonwealth country.
angryaznman 4 months ago
very poor. very polluted
12valvepower1 4 months ago
jewish reporter
12valvepower1 4 months ago
china is power now. india maybe later.
12valvepower1 4 months ago
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china is power now. india maybe later.
12valvepower1 4 months ago
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americans are stupid
12valvepower1 4 months ago
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not sure i wanna be operated on in delhi
12valvepower1 4 months ago
@angryaznman = WESTERN BIGOT EVERYONE, WESTERN BIGOT!!!
To ALL ASIANS, & PEOPLE
Western savages are using dirty tactics of divide & conquore!! Many western TROLLS on the net with ASIAN/MUSLIM/HINDU/YEEHUDEE/INDIA//CHINESE/IRAN etc etc etc with fake names, LIKE THIS FOOL to create hate BEWARE!!
IT IS ARYAVARTA not ARYAN you western BIGOT!!! There is no such thing as ARAYAN, only inferior western savages created this fantasy, this black lies!!!
TheBENGALHANNIBAL 4 months ago
@TheBENGALHANNIBAL the rig veda talk about all sorts of aryan things. so i dont know what you are trying to fool.
the aryans were not part of indus valley civilization any more than the mughals werent foreign.
angryaznman 4 months ago
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We all have to live and die, so the truth about life and death concerns and applies to us all. True or false? Search "TRUTH CONTEST" in Google and click the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says to learn the Truth. Let's get serious and honest about the truth of life.
DemianHermann 5 months ago
aryans were not native indian. mughals were not native indian. british were not native indian. history will never change. the only reason india is even a country is because of the british. and already what did you lose? pakistan? bangladesh? you lost them because indians dont know how to hold a country together like other foreign peoples.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman lol go take ur medicine and leave the SOMA alone. its no good for you. Atleast have the good sense to stop commenting here after i handed your ass to you. lol you are high on enthusiasm and zero on facts. bad combination.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@bittubikaneri was i lying? at best you can say aryan wasnt right.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
look i dont hate you but you are very misinformed. u know british ruled over India. the western academics fudge numbers on archaeological facts to fit everything into biblical time frames. this is done intentionally and it is dishonest. if you want facts let me know and i will post the sources.try ckraju.net for history and philosophy of science and maths. there is lot stuff in the bible taken from indian scriptures, i mean same names, same stories. brahma became abraham.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
brahma became abraham. now that is interesting. i did hear that the catholic church vehemently denies jesus went to study in india. meanwhile in india they believe it to be so.
what you got?
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
i havnt done any research on Jesus in India so i cant answer you honestly on that but there are places there with bible names. As for the stuff plagiarized from Indian scriptures in the Bible, i will give you few examples. Brahma=Abraham,his wife Sarasvati=Sara, the same story of his wife also being his sister and Abraham had an affair on the side just like Brahma.story of Noah- Satyavarman(sons-Jyapeti,Sham,Shem=Noah(Japheth,Ham,Shem)lol even the rains fell for 40days and nights.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@bittubikaneri
the exact same thing with the 3 brothers walking in on the king passed out naked and the king cursing one of them to be servant of servants.copied word for word only minor changes in names. funny thing is these are only historical tales for us but they constructed 3 religions based on them and then turn around and call us Hindus primitives.in fact the church used to believe in reincarnation until 553AD. lol you face christians with some facts and they never answer back.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@bittubikaneri
Adam and eve story is from Mahabharata- they were Adamis and Hevas originally. about the earlier Noah similarity I sometimes confuse between names so if any mistakes please excuse me. but the similarities are there, name for name and plot for plot.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
i hear Ravi Zacharias (indian) will indeed answer you and debates regularly on christian stuff
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
- Source: The New Testament, Gospel of John 1.1
In the beginning was the word (Vai), and the word (Vai) was with Brahma (God), and the word (Vai) was Brahma (Prajapati vai idam agra asit, Tasya vak dvitiya asit, Vag vai paramam Brahma)
-Source: Krishna Yajurveda, Kathaka Samhita, 12.5, 27.1
lol and how would you know RZ will indeed answer me, do u work for him? interesting to know.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@bittubikaneri really? that story was the same as noahs flood? the animals and flooding the world and everything?
what is the title of that indian story?
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
What is the title of Indian story- there is the book of Mahabharata which is about the 18 day war between Kauravas and Pandavas at Kurukshetra, This battlefield was the location where the Bhagavad Gita was told to Arjuna by the Supreme Lord in His Krishna Avatar.
Matsya Purana(chronicles of the fish) which is about the deluge.
i have them on different websites but unfortunately not in english.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@angryaznman Actually, India is a nation because of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, not the British. There have been three phases in Indian history in which India was a unified state, with of course some geographical differences: The Maurya Empire (wholly Indian), The Mughal Empire, and the British Raj. The current borders and unity seen in India is a result of the work of Patel's work. Btw, I often see you trolling about on videos of India - what exactly do you have against the Indians, hmm?
Dzongka 5 months ago
im not trolling. you said exactly what i said. 1 out of 3 unification was actually indian. the british used the division of india to their advantage. thats why they controlled india with such little effort. and you are going to sit there and tell me indias unification was a given without the british....when its division was why british got it in the first place.....riiight
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman I would also like to point out that the largely pastoral IVC inhabitants were most likely far superior to the invading Aryans, in terms of cultural development. Sure, there's a lot of evidence to point out the validity of the AIT, but does that mean the culture of the Mauryans was foreign? No, considering Dharmic culture is a mixture of Harappan and Aryan influence. The feminine and pastoral aspect of native Harappan beliefs went well with the pantheistic beliefs of the Aryans.
Dzongka 5 months ago
like i said, that you even acknowledge the proto aryan peoples amazes me.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman The fact is several other migrations have molded humanity to what it is today. Such migrations include the movement of West-Germanic speaking peoples (Anglo-Saxons) into the British Isles to replace the Celts; the movement of Turkic speaking peoples into what is now Turkey; the migration of Austronesian speaking peoples into Malaysia and the Sunda Islands to replace the Austro-Asiatic Orang Asli. It's a part of Indian history that I cherish, for without it, I would not be here.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@angryaznman You also seem to be suggesting Indian refers to some unified, homogenous group of people who all act and think alike. That's funny. Considering India is a rich tapestry of various ethno-linguistic communities and religious groups, it is extremely difficult to create a state to benefit the interests of every group. If Indians were unable to hold a country together like you say, then every nation that has ever existed on the subcontinent would have been an anarchy - false obviously.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka i obviously meant the entire sub continent as a whole. of course those ethno and religious groups can function fine.
i dont know all the names since british india. even names change.
BUT, i can see. google british india, then google todays india. i dont have a list of how many lands are now not part of india, but its alot.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman It's not that India is incapable of keeping nations such as Pakistan and Bangladesh within her borders; it's simply because it is both in our and their best interests that they receive independence. The only parts of British India that aren't parts of India today are Pakistan, Bangladesh (which separated from PAK), and Sri Lanka. India has even managed to keep the Northeast within her borders, which shares little cultural affinity to the mainland.
Dzongka 5 months ago
lol whats the difference how they ended up not being part of india...as for the north east, by manage to keep you mean because China gave back the land they captured during the border war.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman That's incorrect; the only border dispute was for Arunachal Pradesh, which hardly represents all of the Northeast. All the border disputes between the two nations have been between one state - Arunachal - which India administers anyway, regardless of Chinese claims. Apart from that, states like Tripura, Manipur, Mizoram, Meghalaya, and Nagaland were a part of British India which has never been disputed following India's independence.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka LOL even I have heard of the separatist movements in north east india. why are you lying to me?
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman Lying to you? When did I say that I didn't recognize the separatist movements in India? Do you think that makes a difference in governance. It is firmly a part of India, and the vast majority of Northeasterners are happy to be Indian; many of them migrate to the "mainland" for greater job opportunities. There are separatist movements in Xinjiang and Xizang, does that mean they're not firmly controlled by China? Certain CM's of the NE are even part of the BJP. You're trying too hard
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka i think it does for india. like i already said, the british gave you a british india that had pakistan and sri lanka and bangledesh.
now india doesnt have any of those. i dont think im trying hard at all if i think separatist movements have more potential in india.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman Oh, more influence in India, is that so? Proof? We willingly separated from Pakistan. Sri Lanka received its independence from the U.K., not India, and Bangladesh received its independence from Pakistan - not India - in 1971. Pakistan was created in the realization of the ensuing Muslim riots. We gladly gave up Pakistan, as Nehru would attest if he were alive today. There is no weakening of India's hold in the NE. I agree, you're not trying hard enough now.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka LOL willingly separated. again, what does it matter? you had it, now you dont. all you said was they made the situation bad enough that both wanted to separate. thats what separatist movements do.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman You seem to believe that the Hindus were somehow put in charge of the actions of the Muslims in British India, and that they were somehow responsible for the disintegration of the British Raj into two main entities. I'll have you know that the divide-and-rule policy of the Brits, furthered by their support for the All-India Muslim Conference and the Muslim League, as well as the placement of the Muslims on a separate electorate than the Hindus, fostered the individuality among...
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka (Continued)
Muslims. You see, it wasn't a separatist movement, but a clash between the two - Muslims and Hindus(everyone else) - that resulted in the formation of a separate state. Since, Pakistan gained its independence BEFORE India, you cannot say it was the fault of independent India that Pakistan was let go. Nor was this the cause of separatist movements on one side alone, but both sides. it was the doing of both sides. Hence, partition was wholeheartedly accepted.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka also that religion was enough to break the idea of a united india
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman The concept of a united India did not emerge until the actual independence of India, which as I said before, happened AFTER Pakistan's independence. You see, I think you've forgotten your original claim. Your original claim was "Indians cannot hold a country together". Well, it wasn't the Indians that let go of the Muslims in the country - which wasn't even theirs at that point - it was the British, who had inadvertently planted the seed of separatism in their own colony, and it...
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka (Continued)
...was the British who had let go of a big chunk of their land in the form of East Pakistan and West Pakistan, PRIOR to India's independence; in other words, even if it had to do with religion, it was not independent India's doing. On the idea that Indian Muslims and Hindus don't want anything to do with each other - India has the third largest Muslim population on Earth; there are no more separatist movements for them than there are for Mexicans in the U.S. The Soviet...
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka (Continued)
Union fell apart into 15 separate states, does that mean the Russians are poor at keeping a nation? Yugoslavia similarly fragmented; does that indicate something similar? Once vast Ottoman Empire decimated into several states, one (Israel) which is dominated by foreigners. Again, in light of religious tensions that were detrimental in nature, it was neither in the Britishers' or the Indians' (regardless of religion) best interests to stay united - this applies to any nation.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka dude, there were multiple wars between Pakistan and India. you cant blame british for everything. its simply a lie. they might have encouraged it, but personally, i think hindus were resentful of muslims since the Mughal Empire.
as for Russia, HELL YES. look how many states they lost. although they are making it up with the Shanghai Corporation and the Collective Security Treaty Organization.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman (Continued) On your second point, the Mauryas rose and fell when there were NO MUSLIMS and "India" was populated by Dharmic religion, hence unity was easier to forge. During British Rule, both sides resented each other, so a united India with many Muslims and Hindus did not seem like a good idea to ANYONE, hence the main reason for separation. I'm not blaming the Brits for modern confrontations - you're twisting my words. The hostility between the two is a result of border disputes.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka religion isnt the only dividing factor in india. whether maurya had to deal with muslims or not is inconsequential. for muslims specifically, the Mughals did it. the point hasnt changed. all you keep doing is bringing forth new reason to how what was once part of british india, isnt anymore. it doesnt matter if it was religion, or that 'BOTH SIDES' wanted to w/e. whether what is a good idea to ANYONE.
the end result is already done.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman (Continued) ... individual Indian STATES. So you see, this observation isn't limited to India, but is found throughout the world, so you cannot simply propose that Indians are bad at keeping a nation together. On the point that "the end result is already done". Well, yes, but understand this: there is little practicality in keeping a nation unstable by having a setup that's not wanted by the VAST MAJORITY of the nation's inhabitants, so there's no merit in attempting to keep unity..
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka lmao you think the situation between pakistan and india is more stable now.
you do realize they just terror attacked india again recently right?
in fact, id say if pakistan was a part of india, india would have a hell of a lot easier time stopping these terrorists. even in base terms like jurisdiction and police and patrols.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman (Continued)...Muslim population in the world - most of whom are content with living in India. Most of your points are becoming off topic; that Indians cannot hold a country together (which is your point), isn't related to sour relations between two nations. How could have the Indians foreseen (in fact, how could have anyone foreseen) the future sour relations between Pakistan and India when they were splitting apart? It's unfair to criticize in such a manner. And it's not as if...
Dzongka 5 months ago
@angryaznman (Continued)...Kashmir was really a problem then, was it? Like I said, focusing on two nations in the world (Pakistan and India - Greater India) on the argument that Indians are poor at keeping a nation together is wholly unwarranted, as such situations have and do exist(ed) in the past and the present in other parts of the world. Realize that this is not unique to India. Your focus on India appears hateful in all regards. Thanks.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka dude, we are in an india vid. india is the subject. you seem to be confused as to why im focusing on INDIA.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman Haha. Don't try and cover up the fact that you sincerely hate Indians. I've seen your comments elsewhere, and you're usually saying things that sound pretty hateful. In other words, your username - your anger - seems to be directed mostly at Indians. You deliberately came to this video, just to say BS and project libel against Indians. Don't you have better things to do? I base this off of you saying similar things on other videos. I've seen your comments on Kalaripayattu and...
Dzongka 5 months ago
@angryaznman (Continued)...finally, on your second comment, what particular "idea" are you referring to? The idea that there should be separate and sovereign Muslim state apart from the main "Hindu/Secular" state was propagated by the Mughals and the British? Uhhh....what? If that's not what you were referring to, please let me know lol.
Dzongka 5 months ago
i am a rude person, that is my style, as per my username. but if all you looked at was me in indian vids, then no duh you are going to think i have it in for indians. im actually being far nicer to you than i am to viets, for example.
you claimed its my idea that pakistan is part of greater india is better. i told you, its not an idea. better, who really knows. it failed in the end, BUT mughal and british both did it for awhile. is india better with the muslim influence or no? subjective
angryaznman 5 months ago
to be more clear, i didnt really say it was 'better'. just that it was successfully done by others.
BUT, if i were to argue it. id say pakistan area during mughal india and british india heights are sure doing better than they are now.
as for india, was mughal india and british india suffering from islamic extremist terrorist attacks or wars?
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman Islamist extremism (as we know it today) is a new phenomenon of the late 20th century, so obviously not. You're throwing a red herring at me by referring to Islamist extremism because such organized militancy and hostility were absent during both foreign rules. One can tell you that the Mauryas were equally successful to the British and the Mughals, so I don't get where you're going with that point. The Palis of Bengal also did a good job of uniting India. Modern problems...
Dzongka 5 months ago
@angryaznman I just found out that you called Indians "inferior monkeys" on another video. Haha, yeah, if I had any respect for you in terms of debate, I've lost all of it. Get a life, bro.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@angryaznman (Continued)...In fact, that's just plain detrimental to a society. This has been shown time and time again throughout the world. Think about humanity before you think about the size of a nation - this has nothing to do with a people's ability to keep a nation. And if it does, you should also be proposing that the BRITISH, the FRENCH, the DUTCH, the SPANISH, the PORTUGUESE, the ITALIANS, as well as the CHINESE, who lost Mongolia following the Qing Dynasty. In fact, by your theory...
Dzongka 5 months ago
@angryaznman (Continued)...most of humanity would be considered poor nation builders when various ethno-linguistic, religious, or any other distinctions come into being a part of the same nation. To summarize, such a situation is normally incompatible, and has USUALLY, not OCCASIONALLY, resulted in the decimation of a nation. So your focus on India, which currently has a greater ethno-linguistic, religious, "what-have-you" diversity than all of Europe, is highly unwarranted. Thank you.
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka then theres all the wars fought with pakistan. i highly doubt if they were part of india they could amass an actual nation military.
nah, i dont buy that whole 'situation is more stable to separate, we didnt want unity'. i think it made the divide far worse. the wars speak for itself.
you talk about indias great diversity, but at the same time saying you couldnt work it out with the muslims. because you didnt want to or w/e lol.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman You do realize this whole situation is over Kashmir, right? Divided any other way, such a conflict would most likely not exist. Your idea that Pakistan would have been better off as a part of Greater India is just that - and idea, so it has about as much clout as me saying something similar. And why do you focus on India? What kind of satisfaction do you get by reprimanding a whole people for something that could and has occurred elsewhere? India has the world's 3rd largest...
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka hows it an idea lmao. the mughals did it for awhile. the british did it for awhile.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman (Continued)...Silambam vids; and while I agree Kung Fu and Indian martial arts have independent origins and have scarcely influenced each other at best, I completely disagree with how you propagate your ideas with hateful words directed at Indians. Target the individual - not the nationality! So no, I'm most definitely not confused. And since I've given evidence for my verdict, I hope you would do the same for yours, and not simply base it off what you PERCEIVE to be "fact" And...
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka i dont agree with that. concept of united india started with Maurya Empire, IMO.
anyway, there is no way the British seeds of anything could have separated Pakistan if everyone wanted to stay together.
you can see all over YT RIGHT NOW how pakistani and indian feel about each other. look at any cricket game. this isnt british doing and anyway can see it.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman I will reiterate my point. Your original point was that Indians cannot hold a country together, so unless you're trying to prove something else entirely, you're missing the point. If Indians did not hold sway in their country, they were not responsible. And if they did not want a nation with BOTH sides agreeing on that, that is not separatism, and it has nothing to do with managing a country. [Please continue reading this time..]
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka i will as well. british united india. people in india were the ones who ruined that unity. if you think managing a country was only about administration then you are very ignorant of how a country functions. managing a country is a population wide task.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman And if they didn't want to be united, what difference does it make if they managed their country? They didn't let go of PAK because they had to; they weren't united in the first, and they didn't want to be united, make sense? Take a look at Europe - each country is clearly homogenous in almost every aspect. Through centuries of nation-building, eventually any empire which stretched itself too thin and far has fallen. Europe now consists of nations that resemble...
Dzongka 5 months ago
@Dzongka its not about whether its indian muslim or indian hindu's faults. its indians. all you have shown now is from the start they wanted nothing to do with each other.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman In addition, even though for most of its history, India has been a cluster of kingdoms, these individual kingdoms were immensely well-off and had particularly efficient governing systems. Prior to the conquest by the Magadha kingdom to form the Maurya Empire, despite constant war, the individual Mahajanapadas (16 in total) were quite prosperous and one even had a working democracy - Vajjian Confederacy (the first Republic on Earth). Each had an efficient governing system.
Dzongka 5 months ago
LMAO arya is all over the rig veda ok? for the last time, much of the rig veda's described culture mirrors the proto indo euro of iran and central asia. everybody knows this. go look at the linguistic evidence as well.
i dont care how insecure you indians are about aryans because the mughals did the same shit. they were from the same route the aryans took as well. so go figure.
now indias most famous landmark is the islamic taj mahal. get over it.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
dude if the mughals had done the same shit then all Indians would be muslims which is not the case, is it? I suggest you google a few names-Maharana Pratap, Prithviraj Chauhan, Rana Sangha, Rana Kumbha, Chatrapati Shivaji and Guru Gobind Singh.
google Jauhar
the muslim occupation of India was never pleasant for the invaders. lot of falsehoods in the version of history taught in schools in India, make it seem like hindus didnt fight and just lost. Not true.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
speaking of arab, dont you find it amusing that the most famous thing in india, the taj mahal, is arab/muslim?
angryaznman 5 months ago
BBC: Story of India Documentary
Sanskrit is from outside India. indo Aryan. believed to be in the area of turkey.
indra not Indian.
soma rasa, drink, talk about in rig veda. made from plant not in india. indra drank lots of it. hindu religion took it out. its outside.
Turkmenistan ancient city, mirrored rig veda description. fire alters. horse sacrifice. 4 wheel cart, also mention in rig veda.
Zoroastrian
original group from central asia that went into iran and india.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
BBC= British bullshit corporation beware of the misinformation. People nowadays arent uninformed but seriously misinformed. big difference.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
its not misinformation. it is written in the rig veda that Indra loved soma. and yet that isnt even in India. go look at the wiki page for Indra - Origins. Indo European is all over it.
and once again, indian texts make ample mention of Arya and Aryans. why do you pretend this isnt true?
angryaznman 5 months ago
In Sanskrit and related Indic languages, Arya refers to one of high birth or caste. Although Aryas were concentrated in North India. The term Arya is used 36 times in 34 hymns in the Rigveda.
look up Soma - Etymology. this indo aryan stuff is all over ancient india. why pretend?
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
Search google for a poem written by Labi-Bin-E- Akhtab-Bin-E-Turfa who lived in Arabia around 1850 BC. This verse can be found in Sair- Ul-Okul which is an anthology of ancient Arabic poetry. It was compiled in 1742 AD under order of the Turkish Sultan Salim.
And who were these high caste people who appeared magically in India? from where? dont beat around the bush, give me names. it was the other way around. A lie, no matter how confidently stated, is still a lie.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
wasnt magical....they came from central asia, to iran, into india. you seem to have trouble grasping just how much in common the aryans had with other proto indo european groups. with key parts of their culture, being NOT found in india. like the soma plant.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
ok wasnt magical... so where is their wealth of literature on the Vedas and other subjects which were prevalent at that time in India? Or did they all decided en masse to travel to India? no particular reason but what the fuck lets all leave. that makes any sense to you? and which plant is the Soma plant? do you have the botanical name? or you just keep on repeating the usual drivel and hope that someone believes you?
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
if you watched the documentary you can SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES THE SOMA plant. AND the drink they make from it.
you are the one who keeps repeating the same crap, hopelessly denying the aryan migration into india. bringing along with them culture.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
ROFLMAO @ "if you watched the documentary" from BBC and "SEE WITH UR OWN EYES". The 1st thing I told u was that ur source has zero credibility. Lemme guess, ur a muslim, sad state of affairs if u ask me buddy. Funny thing about your argument is that you have none. Your confusion comes from following people like Max Muller who believed in biblical chronology. google Sarasvati river.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@angryaznman
kid i dont have to pretend about anything. you are the one who starts with bbc. any intelligent person would crack his sides laughing at your silly attempt. and why do you keep harping on indo-aryans? it was Indians who moved out to other places. There are poems by Arabic scholars dating 100s of years before islam in which they clearly thank the people of India for the wonderful gifts of the Vedas. And not just the Vedas, India has given the world algebra, geometry and astronomy.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@bittubikaneri your reply had like zero to do with the aryan migration into india.....The term Arya is used 36 times in 34 hymns in the Rigveda.
still deny?
and india wasnt even 'india' until maurya. in fact a unified india happened 3 times in history. once by an indian, maurya. then mughal (central asian, same as aryan) and british.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
Dear, pull your head out of your arse because you are spouting bs. Yes there was Chandragupta. there were also Ashoka, Samudragupta, Vikramaditya, Kharavela, Shivaji, Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Rana Kumbha, Maharana Pratap. There are more, Educate yourself. Those were feudal times. Why dont you come out and state your agenda clearly? As far as your beliefs about the so called aryans coming into India, those myths have been discredited so you can keep that drivel to yourself.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
no, only ashoka would count. the rest did not get the indian sub continent.
you keep saying discredited but you arent the one doing it. you just keep saying it to make yourself feel better. i dont even know why it bothers you. India should be used to foreigners by now.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
You have serious issues, you sound like a BRITISH CHAM CHAM black disease!!!
VEDA SANSKIT is ALL ASIAN, from India!!!
Just like SEMITES are ASIAN, that originate from WEST ASIA!!
You are clearly a INFERIOR 1492EURO as you said ARYAN, there is no such thing as ARYAN. It is ARYAVARTA!!
India has serious issues no doubt, ie
1,ENGLISH is the offical language spoken opposed to Hindi & SONIA is the face of western virus opperating in INDIA! This alone shows how mucj issues there are.
TheBENGALHANNIBAL 4 months ago 2
You know, no nation is perfect. It's all rise and fall. India was the richest nation in the world before it was conquered by the Persians first and then the English. It's rising again. I'm fond of India, USA, and Israel.
onlypolar 5 months ago
@onlypolar india wasnt even a nation. india has been united a whopping 3 times in history. only 1 by an actual indian (maurya). the mughals and british were the other two, both foreigners.
though foreign invasion is not new. ash a real indian historian about the aryans. who brought their culture to india and thought of themselves as superior to those in the indus valley civilization. hence "aryan" meaning civilized one.
angryaznman 5 months ago
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bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@angryaznman LOL the aryan invasion theory has been conclusively proven to be a lie. So, what else is new, genius?
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@bittubikaneri no, it hasnt actually. in fact they have so much evidence now its not even a theory, just a matter of when.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
lol what evidence? yeah matter of time indeed. you must be a christian or a muslim, they will believe anything. Seriously study from decent sources. Did you know they have discovered a submerged city off the coast of Gujarat, India? Not just a collection of huts but a very well planned city will all the indicators of a very developed civilization. Estimated age- 8000 BC.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
prominent archeologists reject a piece of wood that was recovered by dredging and dated to 7500 B.C. as having any significance in dating the site.
Agrawal argues that the wood piece is a common find, given that 20,000 years ago the Arabian Sea was 100 meters lower than its current level, and that the gradual sea level rise submerged entire forests.
basically, its a piece of wood that is dated that far back.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
Prominent archaeologists?? lol I am Spiderman and my spidey sense is tingling. Dude there is a lot of spin going on. So Rigveda came from Turks? lol and then it gloriously morphed into the islamic caliphate. do you even believe the bs that ur spouting? Maybe u should contact naik, he is big on bullshit too. Anyways how is islam working out for the turks? Its been heavenly for the Pakistanis lol.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@bittubikaneri they found a piece of wood there that dated that far back, and decided that meant the whole area was. they didnt find a city, they found rocks.
rigveda didnt come from turks. the aryan migration though is proto-indo aryan peoples. went to iran from central asia. then into india.
there is ample historical indian text that talk of the arya and aryans. why do you deny this?
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman
Recent genetic study by University of Cambridge human genetics professor Dr. Toomas Kivisild in his 2007 genetic works show highest concentration of R1a1 gene found only in Indian Subcontinent and Gypsies(who are actually Indians). Who now backs, Out of India Theory. Aryans gene is Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA) R1a is home to India and R1a gene found to be 72% to 20% all the way up to Sri Lanka. India is the donor of Gene R1a and rest are recipients.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@bittubikaneri
Brother you have to laugth, as these CHAM CHAM angryaznman, these creatures are the reason why ASIA is divided or IT could be a typical inferior western bigot. They follow a ASIAN man, they call jesus(fake name), thinking he is a westerner heheh.
Then you have the NEGRO CENTRISTS that have bought the theory of monkeys & humanity came out of Africa.
Fact remains ASIA, INDIA the MAA & BABA of civilization & perhaps humanity!!! Which we must PRESERVE!!
TheBENGALHANNIBAL 4 months ago 2
@angryaznman
you deny something when someone puts something infront of you. you just go around in circles while i offer you the results of scientific research. indian people migrated outwards and the research proves that. i am talking of proof like NASA's satellite imagery, genetic research and archaeological diggings. lol step away from that glass of 'SOMA', you are losing your mind. if you have any conclusive facts(from valid sources-no bbc bs) to back your claims lets hear them. if not,bye.
bittubikaneri 5 months ago
@bittubikaneri dude, indra drinks something that isnt even in india.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman On the idea that "Aryan" means "civilized one" - well that's somewhat false. "Arya", not "Aryan" means "noble". This concept was not meant to be used relative to the inhabitants of IVC, but simply an appellation used by the invaders to denote those of high respect within their own group. It was used differently by those who settled in Persia. In addition, the IVC was an extremely prosperous civilization, being the largest and most populous, as well having fully developed cities.
Dzongka 5 months ago
civilized one, noble, high born, the general meaning of the term is obvious.
that you even acknowledge aryans were invaders is amazing to me.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman = not ASIAN but a inferior WESTERN BIGOT!!
Laugh at this creature!! Like it or NOT INDIA & ASIA is the MAA & BABA of humanity & civilzation!!
Your words reap with western inferiority!!!
TheBENGALHANNIBAL 4 months ago
@TheBENGALHANNIBAL uhhh what i am is irrelevant. you can ask your own indian people whether or not they know of this aryan thing.
did you know the mughals ancestors were from the same central asia place as the original aryans?
angryaznman 4 months ago
@TheBENGALHANNIBAL dont let the name fool you though. mughals were not real mongols nor were their ancestors. some central asian seem to have some identity issue and actually think the mongols were same race as them.
some turk even think genghis khan was their people. pretty crazy.
angryaznman 4 months ago
I don't think a country with an iq of 80 would be that great, no offense.
15089643 5 months ago
@15089643 Those particular IQ tests were actually taken in extremely impoverished areas such as Uttar Pradesh and Bihar where literacy is 50%-60%. Hence, the results were skewed. In addition, the IQ of other such Asian nations like China and Korea were tested in metropolises such as Shanghai and Seoul, in addition to such affluent cities like Singapore, and Hong Kong. Sorry, I don't trust conclusions that are deliberately skewed, no offense.
Dzongka 5 months ago
iq tests were done multiple times. most recently in 2006. there was no such skew.
Reviewed by J.Philippe Rushton in Personality and Individual Differences, 2006, 41, 983-5
highlights how the 2006 addresses all critics of 2002. yet both times the results are not only similar, but
To address the issue of the reliability of national IQs, they present results of 71 nations for which two independent measures of IQ have been obtained and show that the correlation between these is 0.95.
angryaznman 5 months ago
@angryaznman Agreed, but the fact that the vast majority of the subjects tested to portray South Asian IQ were poorly educated. In addition to testing barely literate people in India, Rushton decided to test those in Fiji and Mauritius, who are the descendants of indentured laborers, and are still very much impoverished. However scientifically accurate something may be, I will never support a racist outlook and distance myself from others simply on the basis of race, nationality, or ethnicity.
Dzongka 5 months ago
We Are Proud...Are You???..../watch?v=GmpX5FLwDis
hassaansyed 5 months ago
It is already becoming clear that a chapter which had a Western beginning will have to have an Indian ending if it is not to end in self-destruction of the human race. At this supremely dangerous moment in human history , the only way of salvation is the ancient Hindu way. Here we have the attitude and spirit that can make it possible for the human race to grow together in to a single family.
Arnold J. Toynbee Historian
tubebooboob 5 months ago
If you are a truth seeker, search "Truth Contest" in Google and click on the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says. Everyone needs to see this. The Present will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people.
DemianHermann 6 months ago
Israel <3 india :)
TheSlimshow277 6 months ago
India is an amazing country. America needs a lot more insight and education. And This goes back to 2007. Really we should be getting a lot more information on a daily basis. Look us up and also at tibetanphotoproject on Youtube.
IndiaTravelFilms 6 months ago
this is my prediction ..
young brownies will be less into education from the curropt society they live in .. they will be drawn into addictive things.. their derogatory behaviour will affect their mind set .. and spectators will visualise the experience in hand.
114252 6 months ago
peace-loving-india-worlds-largest-arm-importer.
India is in the middle of a multi-billion dollar military spending spree that has quietly seen the country of Mahatma Gandhi and non-violent protest emerge as the world’s largest importer of arms. It is expected to retain that position for at least the next five years.
0ct0ct09 6 months ago
@0ct0ct09 @0ct0ct09 with paksitan as our neighbor, we always have to be careful,they hate india and spread terrorism here.
DeepakPawndU 6 months ago
u can watch places and pplz look dirty bt they r hard workers, they r not living on govt. or council money which other countries do by cheating. proud to b an INDIAN
gagsbajwa 6 months ago
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amir3481 6 months ago
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Chamath5A 6 months ago
@Chamath5A the problems in the West, it might help to have a broader understanding of the world.
IndiaTravelFilms 6 months ago
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Chamath5A 6 months ago
@IndiaTravelFilms I am not Western iam Sri Lankan.Good Luck for India our neighbor :)
Chamath5A 6 months ago
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Chamath5A 6 months ago
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LorinServan 6 months ago
india can suck my dogs balls :P
gog3tass4 6 months ago
India and Israel have always had good relations. Israel's supplied India with highly military sophistication. India and Israel don't particularly like Muslims. India has a ten million man army so will someone tell me why India (1) doesn't get involved in the war against radical Islam (2) send manpower to the border areas of Israel's belligerent neighbors of Syria, Gaza and Lebanon? What is friendship worth if it's not upheld?
39rc6cf 6 months ago
@39rc6cf: India has 150 million Muslims who would get pissed if Indian government openly supports Israel,
however India and Israel are developing relation on a low key level so as not to make the Muslims paranoid.
theeviltwi9 6 months ago
@theeviltwi9, so you're saying that Indian foreign policy is controlled by the Muslim minority? I've always seen India as a staunchly democratic nation that wouldn't tolerate being trampled on. You have an obligation to fight radical Islam and you're hamstrung. You are not doing right by us in NATO. It's impossible for me to believe that your Muslims cripple you on several fronts. Throw them OUT. Ship 'em to Pakistan. Who are they to threaten your government's proper policies?
39rc6cf 6 months ago