Somehow, two hypotheses are clashing inside my brain;
Hypothesis 1 : Otacon is in love with Snake (OtaSune for the win!);
Hypothesis 2 : Otacon was in love with Sniper Wolf, but ever since she died, he tried to seek advice upon the man whom he considers as his 'big brother', resulting into this cutscene.
Why would Otacon need that stealth... wouldn't it have been more useful if given to Snake? HE's the one who has to sneak around and kill stuff/blow shit up.
I think their relationship might be one of the most interesting in the series. The amount of trust they have in each other is astounding, not to mention they're pretty funny to listen to most of the time. They're such opposites--Otacon the nerd and Snake the soldier. Best friends. Really fascinating.
I feel an alien could be intrigued by MGS' rather striking themes and exploration of human values, ie, read up on the gene, meme, scene and sense thematics of each game which Kojima intended in subtlety.
And think, these hypothetical aliens might have virtually no concept on hetero or homosexuality, yet would more greatly identify with or find something facinating about our race in the MGS saga's broad scope of philosophy and message than a typical 'I'm a badass cunt who saves the girl' film.
Confirmation bias. Basically if you assume to see something uniquely then the chances of you finding an anecodote of evidence supporting it is steeped in favour. Homophobia sucks still.
In fact, I follow MGS lore primarily as it has a universal appeal and doesn't bury itself in pop culture traditions (see a typical hollywood action flick with typical action scenes and typical hetero romance, like Snake/Meryl but more overblown) but is still philosophically deep and enlightening in its themes.
What Snake and otacon have is called a "Bromance" (A platonic relationship) they are best friends. Snake is the hero, Otacon the sidekick. They are not gay, and if you ever thought they were you are very immature and need to stop thinking such gay thoughts, you might be the one who turns out to be gay.
'Nuff said. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time a gay relationship has been in MGS. Just look at Raiden's official bio - he is OFFICIALLY homosexual.
And seeing a homosexual relationship is not any less mature than seeing a heterosexual relationship, so I just don't even know where you're going with that one.
How is it any less mature to view it this way? Is being gay being immature? Is prefering things that way immature? Sure, there might not be enough canon to prove either argument, but you shouldn't call anyone's opinions gay, dear.
ich hasse die japanische sprache, nicht die synchro, die japanische sprache an sich hört sich schwul an!!! (ich wollte damit keinen japaner beleidigen)achja das spiel ist oberhammer
ja ich hab vil ein bischen übertrieben, sorry,ich meinte eig damit, das ich die englischen stimmen in mgs besser finde, hoffentlich hasst mich jetzt keiner....
Fakt ist, in MGS1 war die englische Synchro qualitativ sehr nah am japanischen Original, zuweilen hab ich selber Schwierigkeiten, mich zu entscheiden, welche Stimmen ich jetzt besser finde, wechselt immer, mal so, mal so.
Leider hat die Qualität im Englischen dann aber von Teil zu Teil nachgelassen, MGS3 war der bisherige Tiefpunkt, im Japanischen hingegen blieb die Qualität wesentlich konstanter, ich glaube, die hat in MGS3 sogar ihren Höhepunkt erreicht.
Man muss ja dazu sagen, Kojima sucht die japanischen Sprecher selbst raus und führt bei der Synchro auch Regie, in einigen Fällen hat er die Charaktere sogar für die Sprecher geschrieben und sie nicht erst im Nachhinein gecastet. Mit der englischen Synchro hat er nichts zu tun, also auch wenn die englische Synchro in MGS1 großartig war und in MGS2 und 3 immer noch gut, die japanische hat dadurch mehr authentizität.
You know what "Andate a la concha de tu madre gringa estupida." means?, no?, then don't go around trying to impress anybody with random japanese you must have gotten off a blog or something.
Or rather, 火を死ねってください。w (I believe there's a single word for this, but this would be a more direct way of saying it.)
You're both wrong in technicality, anyway.
And like tomoko said, if you're so inclined as to the notion that he can't learn Japanese (which, granted, is a VERY simple language, more so than English even) then PROVE IT. Validate yourself (read: stroke your e-penis) more, child.
Sterotyping. Biasing. Simple-minded one-way arguments that only work in your own little world. And, you assumed that I was a guy.
God, you're a dumbass. Go angst on another website. Preferrably something like LJ, there's easily a clone population or 15 there that you could fit into.
My own little world?, yeah!, I love my own little world (:, I know in your own little world you're the shit and the smartest person alive, I'm like that in my own little world too (:!.
Ha, no. Actually, far from it. I live in reality. I've lived in it for 21 years, and I know my way around, but I'm not "holier than thou" about shit. And thanks for devalidating your entire counterclaim for me, you dumbass.
What's even more funny, is the fact I know what the hell I'm talking about, I know japanese is not a language you can just go and learn like you say, it takes years of effort, and it took my mother over 9 years to pass her last exam, some dedication most people don't even dream on keeping.
What's even more funny, is the fact I liked being an asshole to people in youtube, until I met you, now I know what I'll be like if I keep it like this ):, I'm redeeming.
Oh wow, my soul is bleeding from the piercing sarcasm. Keep going.
And I know it takes years of effort to learn Japanese. It took 2 for me. And that's going through 4 textbooks (7 if you cound the Heisig kanji books) and 2 college classes to do it. I can't help it if your mother learns languages slower than others.
(Actually, that's probably due to age; it's been proven that while it's easier to learn written scripts with age, it becomes harder to learn cognitive language patterns inversely.)
it looks like you're just waiting for a chance to tell everybody you know japanese and it only took you two years to learn, , what's even more funny is the way you try to keep this argument alive, like waiting for something to happen, and I don't know what.
But, whatever, what if I tell you I feel stupid in your comparison and I can't outsmart you oh 21 year old woman who knows japanese.
So... why do you still feel it necessary to better me? I personally don't care what you think, I'm just proving the falsehood of your claims. Not because it makes me feel better about myself - I DO, in fact, have better things to do with the 30 seconds it takes to reply to your comments with - but because you are wrong. And in your fallacies, you are discouraging the advance of civilization.
Good for you. Now, go wank elsewhere. Or, like I suggested to you in the first place, die in a fire.
You claim my words are fallacies while you're still trying to hold a coherent and "civilized" conversation with no better suggestion than "die in a fire"?.
You know what discourages the advance of civilization more than anything?... people dying in fires!.
No, advancement is pretty much solely dependent on advancement of technology. This then means we need only fear the populous mating with you because then we'd all be retarded. I can't speak any other languages besides my native English, but it is stupid to use the YouTube service like its Mucho Sucko and bash each other like assholes. This is supposed to be a safe haven from dummies with nothing to say, so please fight over there. So, did the video in any way influence your fight?
Obviously, you suffer from selective reading, an easy way to avoid having to retaliate against something you are too dumb to comment on. I am confused as to why I'm an asshole because you think the world is a starcraft, because I made no such reference or inclination at any point in my bashing you for carrying the tard gene. So, what I meant was this; Don't reproduce with anyone who will be responsible for any of the advancements in technology so that it won't become perverted by your tard genes
Oh, and your comment looked respectable, until you shoved that "e-penis" bullshit, I just laughed my ass off, I can't believe I thought for a second you guys could write a decent comment.
Did they ever give an explaination as to why the elevator was broken, started working, and then was broken again? I can't remember... I really need to play this game again...
Oh yeah, and Hideyuki Tanaka as Otacon is just retarded...
Somehow, two hypotheses are clashing inside my brain;
Hypothesis 1 : Otacon is in love with Snake (OtaSune for the win!);
Hypothesis 2 : Otacon was in love with Sniper Wolf, but ever since she died, he tried to seek advice upon the man whom he considers as his 'big brother', resulting into this cutscene.
Tell me what is your favorite hypothesis! ^o^
r4shka 3 weeks ago
Why would Otacon need that stealth... wouldn't it have been more useful if given to Snake? HE's the one who has to sneak around and kill stuff/blow shit up.
Choklaty 11 months ago
This makes me want to play through the game again for like the 800th time :D
VarukerVaruker 1 year ago
otakunka =D
BigUndertaker 1 year ago
The Japanese voices and dialog fit so much better and add so much depth to the relationship.
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NedWilson14305 2 years ago
I think their relationship might be one of the most interesting in the series. The amount of trust they have in each other is astounding, not to mention they're pretty funny to listen to most of the time. They're such opposites--Otacon the nerd and Snake the soldier. Best friends. Really fascinating.
Syrenav 2 years ago 4
Snake's voice actually sounds sexy in Japaneses o_o
but I still like the english version better.
my comment is so astray from the others its amazing.
xXDancingXSnakeXx 2 years ago
I feel an alien could be intrigued by MGS' rather striking themes and exploration of human values, ie, read up on the gene, meme, scene and sense thematics of each game which Kojima intended in subtlety.
And think, these hypothetical aliens might have virtually no concept on hetero or homosexuality, yet would more greatly identify with or find something facinating about our race in the MGS saga's broad scope of philosophy and message than a typical 'I'm a badass cunt who saves the girl' film.
SiegCabbit 2 years ago
Confirmation bias. Basically if you assume to see something uniquely then the chances of you finding an anecodote of evidence supporting it is steeped in favour. Homophobia sucks still.
In fact, I follow MGS lore primarily as it has a universal appeal and doesn't bury itself in pop culture traditions (see a typical hollywood action flick with typical action scenes and typical hetero romance, like Snake/Meryl but more overblown) but is still philosophically deep and enlightening in its themes.
SiegCabbit 2 years ago
I have a question does the Japanese version of this game play on the American playstation 1?
PlanetXObserver 2 years ago
No.
HannesHansen 2 years ago
@PlanetXObserver Like it really matters....English version is fine..unike Anime..none movies mouths equal almost exact dialogue.
kikook222 1 year ago
What Snake and otacon have is called a "Bromance" (A platonic relationship) they are best friends. Snake is the hero, Otacon the sidekick. They are not gay, and if you ever thought they were you are very immature and need to stop thinking such gay thoughts, you might be the one who turns out to be gay.
Johnwatsis 2 years ago
Sunny has two daddies in MGS4.
'Nuff said. Besides, it wouldn't be the first time a gay relationship has been in MGS. Just look at Raiden's official bio - he is OFFICIALLY homosexual.
And seeing a homosexual relationship is not any less mature than seeing a heterosexual relationship, so I just don't even know where you're going with that one.
lolololgoodtimes 2 years ago 11
Not even close. I'm not even going to redeem this comment with a reply.
Johnwatsis 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
How is it any less mature to view it this way? Is being gay being immature? Is prefering things that way immature? Sure, there might not be enough canon to prove either argument, but you shouldn't call anyone's opinions gay, dear.
CochroachKappa 2 years ago
Bitch, go eat a dick.
Johnwatsis 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
Epic Game.
I was 11 when i played it and now i'm playing MGO!
PedtheFox 2 years ago
so far from what i've listened to, i'm not likin snake's voice......
doctrinedark11 2 years ago
nostalgic.......
chaz84720 2 years ago
lol is he the guy who plays inutaisho? (inuyasha's father)
japeneseanimegirl22 2 years ago
No.
Saiyuki204 2 years ago
I don't even speak Japanese and I can still feel the Brokeback Mountain calibre gayness of the whole thing.
newsradiohead 2 years ago 3
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filipeflower 2 years ago
Oh come on. Otacon is asking, "Can love bloom on the battlefield?"
I don't know about you but that makes me warm. Warm because I can feel those guys flaming from here.
newsradiohead 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
IT IS BIBLICAL IN SCALE
D4YV 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
It implies that Otacon might be gay.
CrazyKitty789 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
Well, guys don't normally talk about that sort of thing.
CrazyKitty789 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
Well, yeah. Guys are actually pretty different from girls. They don't often talk about the things that girls talk about. It makes them feel weird.
CrazyKitty789 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
Let me ask you something. Why are you being so nit-picky about this?
CrazyKitty789 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
Yeah, but the fans seem to think so. So don't get on their case just because you don't. It'll only get you yelled at by angry yaoi lovers.
CrazyKitty789 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago 2
And for the fans, wishful thinking is enough. So to them, they're gay. To you, they're not. People have different opinions, so deal with it.
End of discussion. ;p
CrazyKitty789 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
Fact: Everyone is gay for Snake, even if you try to surpress your feelings, it's true for all of us. Even Otacon.
And why is that, you may ask?
Nanomachines and psychotherapy.
HannesHansen 2 years ago 4
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filipeflower 2 years ago
My superior knowledge of all things in existence tells me that I'm right.
I don't need research, I AM the research!
HannesHansen 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
@filipeflower You don't understand humour, do you?
MrLunitunz 1 year ago
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filipeflower 1 year ago
@filipeflower Nanomachines and psychotherapy.
It was a joke, man.
MrLunitunz 1 year ago
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filipeflower 1 year ago
Sir or Madam, I believe I said end of discussion.
CrazyKitty789 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
Best MGS
Golfinnder 3 years ago 4
Play MGS4: Guns of the Patriots. You gotta play that.
ElricSowrd 3 years ago
MGS$ is a good game, but is not great as the REAL CLASSIC METAL GEAR SOLID
GabreLadders 3 years ago
MGS$ = MGS4
damn keyboard....
GabreLadders 3 years ago 2
MGS4 was good, but it did not have enough game play.
Mike200V 3 years ago
it was more like an altar for the other 3 games xD
TheFishMastuh 2 years ago
Oh,I know now why Otacon didn't find by the enemy,as he wore a steath camouflage!
naruto300394 3 years ago 2
(^^)
DonMasakoni 3 years ago
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everyone who watches this is a (BLEEP)!! apart from me
chrisvalez 3 years ago
you gay XD
stepbystep29 3 years ago 7
ich hasse die japanische sprache, nicht die synchro, die japanische sprache an sich hört sich schwul an!!! (ich wollte damit keinen japaner beleidigen)achja das spiel ist oberhammer
jeaninemagdziak 3 years ago
sehr geistreicher kommentar wirklich.
I think i know the voice of ss from a few animes.
Punicalol 3 years ago
ja ich hab vil ein bischen übertrieben, sorry,ich meinte eig damit, das ich die englischen stimmen in mgs besser finde, hoffentlich hasst mich jetzt keiner....
jeaninemagdziak 3 years ago
Fakt ist, in MGS1 war die englische Synchro qualitativ sehr nah am japanischen Original, zuweilen hab ich selber Schwierigkeiten, mich zu entscheiden, welche Stimmen ich jetzt besser finde, wechselt immer, mal so, mal so.
Leider hat die Qualität im Englischen dann aber von Teil zu Teil nachgelassen, MGS3 war der bisherige Tiefpunkt, im Japanischen hingegen blieb die Qualität wesentlich konstanter, ich glaube, die hat in MGS3 sogar ihren Höhepunkt erreicht.
HannesHansen 3 years ago
Man muss ja dazu sagen, Kojima sucht die japanischen Sprecher selbst raus und führt bei der Synchro auch Regie, in einigen Fällen hat er die Charaktere sogar für die Sprecher geschrieben und sie nicht erst im Nachhinein gecastet. Mit der englischen Synchro hat er nichts zu tun, also auch wenn die englische Synchro in MGS1 großartig war und in MGS2 und 3 immer noch gut, die japanische hat dadurch mehr authentizität.
HannesHansen 3 years ago
Mal ganz abgesehen davon, dass Snake natürlich eigentlich englisch sprechen würde...aber wayne? In MGS3 müssten auch alle russisch sprechen.:p
HannesHansen 3 years ago
also ich find eig net das sie zu teil zu teil nachgelassen haben, ich fand immer gleich, wie kommse überhaupt dadrauf?
jeaninemagdziak 3 years ago
This makes me even more motivated to learn Japanese so I can understand it. ^^;
Tomoko4004 4 years ago
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Good for you, you'll never archieve it though.
Deflun2 4 years ago
証明して、ください。
Tomoko4004 4 years ago
Aww, too bad I know it's not correct, even though I don't even know japanese.
Nice try though, use your spare time on something useful now.
Deflun2 4 years ago
*rolls eyes* Since I see the troll is still hungry...
"証明して、ください" means "Shoumei shite, kudasai" which means "Please prove it."
Tomoko4004 4 years ago
You know what "Andate a la concha de tu madre gringa estupida." means?, no?, then don't go around trying to impress anybody with random japanese you must have gotten off a blog or something.
Now fuck off.
Deflun2 4 years ago
And it actually means please confirm.
Deflun2 4 years ago
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And one last thing, you are not Japanese, face it, scum.
Deflun2 4 years ago
haha both of you are immature dumbfucks go drown yourselves
Oosanbashi 4 years ago
Immature?.
What the fuck are you?, twelve year old cunt who's best insult is "Immature"?.
Deflun2 4 years ago
I dunno but before tomoko4004 "archieves" mastery of Japanese I hope you're able to "archieve" mastery of English spelling
rofl bye
Oosanbashi 4 years ago
Write it in your diary.
Deflun2 4 years ago
Seriously, the both of you...
Die in a fire.
Or rather, 火を死ねってください。w (I believe there's a single word for this, but this would be a more direct way of saying it.)
You're both wrong in technicality, anyway.
And like tomoko said, if you're so inclined as to the notion that he can't learn Japanese (which, granted, is a VERY simple language, more so than English even) then PROVE IT. Validate yourself (read: stroke your e-penis) more, child.
I don't feed trolls; I eat them for breakfast.
BrainBoil 4 years ago
I don't get it.. you're trying to be manly?.
Because you're just a small otaku queer to me.
I don't feed otakus, I don't eat them, I just don't give a shit about them.
Deflun2 4 years ago
Ha.
Sterotyping. Biasing. Simple-minded one-way arguments that only work in your own little world. And, you assumed that I was a guy.
God, you're a dumbass. Go angst on another website. Preferrably something like LJ, there's easily a clone population or 15 there that you could fit into.
BrainBoil 4 years ago
My own little world?, yeah!, I love my own little world (:, I know in your own little world you're the shit and the smartest person alive, I'm like that in my own little world too (:!.
Deflun2 4 years ago
Ha, no. Actually, far from it. I live in reality. I've lived in it for 21 years, and I know my way around, but I'm not "holier than thou" about shit. And thanks for devalidating your entire counterclaim for me, you dumbass.
:::::))))):):):):):)
BrainBoil 4 years ago
):, damn, I lost this argument, seriusly, DAMN, can I try again?.
Deflun2 4 years ago
What's even more funny, is the fact I know what the hell I'm talking about, I know japanese is not a language you can just go and learn like you say, it takes years of effort, and it took my mother over 9 years to pass her last exam, some dedication most people don't even dream on keeping.
What's even more funny, is the fact I liked being an asshole to people in youtube, until I met you, now I know what I'll be like if I keep it like this ):, I'm redeeming.
Deflun2 4 years ago
Oh wow, my soul is bleeding from the piercing sarcasm. Keep going.
And I know it takes years of effort to learn Japanese. It took 2 for me. And that's going through 4 textbooks (7 if you cound the Heisig kanji books) and 2 college classes to do it. I can't help it if your mother learns languages slower than others.
(Actually, that's probably due to age; it's been proven that while it's easier to learn written scripts with age, it becomes harder to learn cognitive language patterns inversely.)
BrainBoil 4 years ago
All I wanna say now is "good for you", as in :
it looks like you're just waiting for a chance to tell everybody you know japanese and it only took you two years to learn, , what's even more funny is the way you try to keep this argument alive, like waiting for something to happen, and I don't know what.
But, whatever, what if I tell you I feel stupid in your comparison and I can't outsmart you oh 21 year old woman who knows japanese.
I pale in your comparison.
Deflun2 4 years ago
So... why do you still feel it necessary to better me? I personally don't care what you think, I'm just proving the falsehood of your claims. Not because it makes me feel better about myself - I DO, in fact, have better things to do with the 30 seconds it takes to reply to your comments with - but because you are wrong. And in your fallacies, you are discouraging the advance of civilization.
Good for you. Now, go wank elsewhere. Or, like I suggested to you in the first place, die in a fire.
BrainBoil 4 years ago
You claim my words are fallacies while you're still trying to hold a coherent and "civilized" conversation with no better suggestion than "die in a fire"?.
You know what discourages the advance of civilization more than anything?... people dying in fires!.
Deflun2 4 years ago
No, advancement is pretty much solely dependent on advancement of technology. This then means we need only fear the populous mating with you because then we'd all be retarded. I can't speak any other languages besides my native English, but it is stupid to use the YouTube service like its Mucho Sucko and bash each other like assholes. This is supposed to be a safe haven from dummies with nothing to say, so please fight over there. So, did the video in any way influence your fight?
caius6will6hurt6u 3 years ago
Technology is advanced by itself?, the real world does not moves just like starcraft, asshole.
Deflun2 3 years ago
Obviously, you suffer from selective reading, an easy way to avoid having to retaliate against something you are too dumb to comment on. I am confused as to why I'm an asshole because you think the world is a starcraft, because I made no such reference or inclination at any point in my bashing you for carrying the tard gene. So, what I meant was this; Don't reproduce with anyone who will be responsible for any of the advancements in technology so that it won't become perverted by your tard genes
caius6will6hurt6u 3 years ago
Look, You bore me, BrainBoil made interest comments, but yours are garbage.
Get a better name like BrainBoil, 666 and "will hurt u" don't mix, idiot.
Deflun2 3 years ago
And I've got to give you credit, you didn't start assaulting my sexuality or my insecurities (:!
Deflun2 4 years ago
THAT is called feeding a troll.
And I can think of numerous things more damaging to the development of mankind than burning a scab off the face of the planet.
BrainBoil 4 years ago 2
I can't.. I think I'm mentally disabled ):.
Deflun2 4 years ago
Oh, and your comment looked respectable, until you shoved that "e-penis" bullshit, I just laughed my ass off, I can't believe I thought for a second you guys could write a decent comment.
Deflun2 4 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
Super cute!
yuyuzja 4 years ago
I think they should forget saving the world, and just go make out for awhile.
icecrystal2k 4 years ago 4
lol he he i was thinkin that too
game4life12 4 years ago
Diese Szene war eine der motionalsten von allen. Von mir gibs 5 sterne
santocarme 4 years ago
Did they ever give an explaination as to why the elevator was broken, started working, and then was broken again? I can't remember... I really need to play this game again...
Oh yeah, and Hideyuki Tanaka as Otacon is just retarded...
neocammy 4 years ago
i bet da elevator was rigged lol
cheezmasta2006 4 years ago
I bet Otacon did it... So that him & Snake could have some "quality time"~ Haahahahha~
neocammy 4 years ago
Yes, Otacon said that it was as if someone was intentionally holding it, meaning the four guys in the stealth suits.
978kks 4 years ago
Aayee.... Right, right... Man, I really have to replay this game lol~
neocammy 4 years ago
I can't watch this scene without expecting them to kiss. In Japanese it's even more romantic.
Fireholly99 4 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago
filipeflower, I'm sorry I can still parse the intent of a comment I made two years ago, but I was very kidding about that.
Fireholly99 2 years ago
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filipeflower 2 years ago