John Kerry asks Jon Kyl to explain McCain's 'celebrity ad.'

[discoroux]

Poor Kerry missed the point entirely. The ad utilizes something called a "metaphor" that requires that you "think" for a moment about the point it's trying to make. Kerry takes the ad too litetally, evident when he says Obama has not met Brittney Spears. Duh! What an idiot. I'm sorry I voted for him (although, the alternative wasn't exactly the best choice either...)

[blueshade26]

PWNED

[MrBullfrog9876]

What does Brittney have to do with successfully running the country ?? nothing

What does Obama have to do with successfully running the country ?? nothing

They are both entertainers who know how to make people feel good, that is all, they neither one have any substance or experience at running a country.

[john48martin]

i notice this about jon kyle. he never answers the question. Just takes up time taking about how the discussion should be conducted. He is a liar and a fraud.

[jkfromcincty]

Republicans support corporations, not people, including their own constituents. Harry Truman said, "The Republicans admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it".

[mutantstrain]

Jon -- your state AZ is ranked as the dumbest state in the United States.

After having lived in NJ and CA, I can really tell.

My guess is that this nazi-like attitude of most republicans to just f the poor really bites you from behind.

Its a pity there is an entire infrastructure keeping this stupidity intact.

Yes, Senator, just keep voting against everything democratic. You're doing a great job empowering white trash and the truly stupid.

:(

[wittumy]

V1.....your last comments says you read the conversation AND you don't need to read it. Your comments prove you didn't read it in the first place. How can you not have figured out you were wrong.....how could I possibly be stating Obama presidential achievements before the guy was even elected? Are you on meds?

[wittumy]

V1....can't admit you made a mistake can you? You rip me for a comment I made 8 months ago not knowing the context of the conversation I was having with someone else. I explained in a respectfull manner what the deal was and I don't get a response or even another one of your explative laced rants. I feel violated.

[v1ryus]

It's spelled as "expletive". Mistake? I never made any claims other than point out your falsehoods. YOU made a statement regarding energy independency. Yet you failed to provide evidence to support your claims. I, however, made claims that you misused the legislation to further yourself. I provided proof stating an example. I have yet to see you accept the onus of the burden of proof. So you fail. I have no need to answer your retardation any further.

[wittumy]

v1.....if you'd the ability to comprehend you'd understand what my last comment said. In a nutshell you decided to get involved in a conversation that took place 8 months ago. I explained how the sequence of the converstation went and that you misinterpreted my comment. You can't point out falsehoods when you've chosen an issue that exists only in your head. You can't provide proof of anything if you are talking about the wrong thing.

My proof is the conversation I had 8 months ago.

[v1ryus]

You fail yet again. Your litany of murky and retarded comments does not surprise me. You still fail to provide the RIGHT legislation to what Obama has done in his presidency. Typical symptoms of a failure democrat. ROFL your stupidity runs so deep it's saddening. Stop failing to addressing the question son. But please keep em coming - because I need retarded comments to destroy!

[wittumy]

V1ryus.....If you'd have read the conversation you'd understand I wasn't talking about Obama's accomplishments as president......HE WASN"T PRESIDENT YET......DUMBASS!!!!!

[v1ryus]

And the way he's doing things right now - he still ISN'T a President! I read the conversation - the guy stated facts. You stated false facts. I called you out on it. I don't need to read the rest of your failed conversation......"DUMBASS!!!!­!".

[wittumy]

V1.....Can't admit you're wrong can you? You choose to join a conversation 8 months old and failed to understand or care to understand the context of the conversation. You made a mistake pal.....grow a pair and admit it.

[v1ryus]

ROFL THIS GUYS DELUSIONAL!! KEEP BEIN THAT DEMOCRAT and STATING FALSE FACTS TO FURTHER YOUR OWN RETARDED MOTIVES! HAHAHAHHAHAHAH TOO FUNNY

[wittumy]

v1wussy.....there isn't much that's more funny than a dumbass who joins an 8 month old ended conversation, misses the subject matter of the conversation and then gets his panties in a wad because he can't admit he didn't take the time to think...before speaking.

Next time try responding to things that are currently being talked about. Gotta feel for someone who doesn't have the brains to figure out Obama couldn't have accomplishments as a president months before he was even elected!

[v1ryus]

I didn't bother reading your statement because I know it's full of MORE FALSIFIED "FACTS". HAHAHAHAH PATHETIC - try harder retard! Your democratic tactics are old recycled garbage!

[wittumy]

So V1....you don't even care to know the truth...and you acknowledge you don't care? I can only say your "republican tactic" must be total ignorance of the subject matter being discussed

[v1ryus]

Momma taught me never to laugh at the retarded children - but WOW WAS MOMMA WRONG WHEN SHE SAID IT DIDN'T FEEL GOOD! HAHAHAH YOU MORON

[wittumy]

V1wussy....I'd suggest you go ask mommy to read for you. That way you won't get involved in conversations long dead and irrelevant.

You've made an ass of yourself....I can't help you pal....

[v1ryus]

2/10 for effort champ. But try harder next time.

[wittumy]

I don't even have to try V1wuss.....when someone like you can't even figure out they were commenting on something old and irrellevant...you make it so very easy.

Why don't you go find a discussion from 2007 to get into.....

[v1ryus]

Oh I liked your wall of text on my message board in my profile page. It was very textual. Whatever it did say I have no idea but I'm willing to bank on it saying something about your homosexual agenda getting in the way of properly citing sources and stating of what the sources make reference. 2/10 for trying though - keep that drool cup properly fastened.

[wittumy]

V1wussy....I've been married for almost 34 years.....I'm sorry pal I'm not gay so I have no homosexual agenda....sorry to dissappoint you....loneliness is hell....but I"m straight.

Have your mommy read my comments for you so there's no further confusion.....you're confused enough right now.

[v1ryus]

A married, homosexual hippy that's fresh! Champ, you can't call it marriage unless it took place in Massachusetts or Connecticut.

[wittumy]

V1wussy.....nice try but you know that's not the truth....but what do you care about the truth huh little man. That's a good indication of how stupid you really are though. First you go into an 8 month old closed conversation about the upcoming election and can't figure out what people are talking about (duh...wonder why). Then you claim that there was homosexual marriage 34 years ago in Ma and Ct. Just how many pills do you take a day? I can see reality and you don't mix well.

[v1ryus]

Hey nitwittumy - I see I have you hooked to my responses like a cheap hooker is to crack! Keep em coming champ!

[wittumy]

V1wuss....not hooked...just making sure others aren't fooled by your lies and ignorance. Who would believe you'd be as stupid as you've been?

[v1ryus]

=_= lol

[v1ryus]

open your eyes and read the news - look at the dow and s&p indexes. Then you can go back to thumbing your asshole son.

[bateau17]

Jon Kerry is using the same strategy that most liberals use.  Use up air time with self righteous babble and accusations. He doesn't know how to debate, just point fingers, so glad he failed.

[highazgaz]

i used to think republicans were rascist snooty white people, but now obama is prez, those guys sound like big babies with name calling and lies and hoping he fail, grow up republicans , bush fucked up so give him a chance

[fenixwhisper]

bamas already fucked up and only 100 days gone by.

[jamesspencerjackson]

john kerry is a self-righteous herman munster

[quest8899]

Look conservative republicans tend to be the racists in our country.

[gh4basketball]

do what needs to be done, not what you want to be done

[gh4basketball]

the ad with paris and britney and obama. completely accurate. obama is going to try to win the presidency like any other HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT in america. he wants to make it a popularity contest. paris and britney and obama all want the public to like them. his line of right and wrong is blurred. it's better to be committed and wrong than unsure and right, but mccain is committed and right and obama is unsure and wrong. stand up for conviction america.

[wittumy]

gh4.....a popularity contest? Your comments are not even high school level journalism. You have no points or facts...just what you've heard and repeat. Start thinking for yourself....quit spewing the same unsubstantiated crap that America is growing sick and tired of. Those with conviction don't spread lies and distortions as you've done.

[gh4basketball]

you want some facts, here are some facts.... while senator, obama proposed no legislation, not even a simple reform, yet he wrote 2 memoirs. he used illinois as a springboard. he wants to shut down 9 nuclear power plants for fear of environment terrorists. if somebody wanted to harm the environment, they would blow up an oil pipe underwater, which would be inpossible to stop the bleeding, obama rejects legislation to make america energy independent. we need to be independent if we wanna compete

[gh4basketball]

with china, russia, and india, all of which are creating 30 nuclear power plants each and china is damming the yangtze river, which will make all 3 powerhouses energy independent... mccain wants us to reach energy independence by offshore drilling, nuclear, wind, solar and geothermal energy... those are the facts

[wittumy]

gh4...you're wrong. What about S.Amdt.390 to H.R.1268? What about S.Amdt.670 to H.R.3? What about S.Amdt.808 to H.R.6? What about .Amdt.1453 to S.1402? What about S.Amdt.2605 to S.2020? What about S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83? What about S. Amdt 41 to S. 1? What about the others? Why don't you know the real facts?

[v1ryus]

And guess what if you want real facts douchebag - MOST of those weren't even instituted while Obama was in his presidency. I know for sure amdt 3144 has NOTHING to do with fuel independency. Fuckin idiot you probably just saw someone post those up and TRIED to look intelligent. As a matter of FACT you did. So far, obama hasn't done SHIT. THOSE ARE FACTS. Now fuck yourself.

[wittumy]

v1ryus.....what the hell are you talking about? Most of what? Fuck myself....can you do that?

[v1ryus]

Restate your QUOTE-UN-QUOTE facts. You state shit of which you have NO FUCKIN IDEA. And you misstate them to try to give sound support for Obama. Now given Obama HAS done a decent job with Palestine and Israel conflict, that is just ONE part of his entire failure as a president. Don't resort to google for your answers - without researching the credibility or context in which it is stated. Learn to use a database with SCHOLARLY articles.

[wittumy]

v1wus.....8 months ago I replied to a comment that Obama had not passed any legislation at all. I replied with my comments. Timing put my comment below the other persons next comments that were "energy related". Perhaps if you'd had really read the comments you could have figured that out maybe not.

[amirr84]

haha...mccain fights like a 4yr old kid, his ads are more like Coke smearing pepsi...he needs to grow..

THIS IS AMIR AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE.

[raydawg325]

didnt John Kyl once say Hitler had some good ideas

[smartamateur]

You are a very smart person and a good debater. We just support different candidates and feel very strongly about our views. This is what America is all about.

I wish you the best and may the best man win in November.

[willdpj]

Agreed

[smartamateur]

When there's a scandal about Obama ( Rev. Wright being the ONLY exception), we rarely hear about it in the media because everyone knows he has the media on his side and will attempt to hide anything negative about him so he could win the election. You say it's unfair for McCain to compare Obama to Spears and Paris Hilton, but look at what the tremendous advantage Obama has in the liberal media as well as the huge cash advantage he has over McCain by turning down public financing.

[smartamateur]

Doesn't the name Tony Rezko sound familiar to you? He's the corrupt Chicago businessman who bankrolled Obama's previous campaigns in Illinois and Obama would not be a candidate today if it weren't for this crook.

So as you can see, McCain is not the only candidate with skeletons in the closet.

[willdpj]

Yes he has been a political fundraiser for candidates since the 80's. However, Obama had never represented Rezko and had done only about five hours work, indirectly, for Rezko's firm. However, Rezko ACTUALLY raised money for Republicans: former Illinois Governors Jim Edgar and George Ryan, the late Rosemont Mayor Don Stephens and he co-chaired a multimillion-dollar fund-raiser for President George W. Bush in 2003. Both sides are victims of corrupt allegations every election though I will admit.

[willdpj]

Just as John McCain has a plan, so does Obama and to answer your question from Obama's past work in Illinois and passed legislation in his short time as Senator proves he is someone who can get things done. McCain has been absent or voted present more times than any other senator. So it's either more of the same or some change for the citizens of this great country. On the economy and war McCain has been fundamentally wrong and has sided with Bush's failed policies 95% of the time.

[smartamateur]

In this time of war, terrorism, and economic hardship, there is simply no room for on-the-job-training. Even the last nominee, John Kerry, had the experience to be president. Despite his courageous service in Vietnam, his reluctance to defend himself made him look like a weakling. And if he hadn't waffled so much he might be president today.

How will Joe Biden retract his own comments on Obama's inexperience now that he's Obama's running mate?

[willdpj]

History shows that some of America's best presidents were those with little or no experience. John Kerry wasn't part of the debate but since you included him..he would have won if 300,000+ Ohio voters were denied the right to vote. Judgement is also a crucial quality and Obama had better judgement on war in my opinion but instead we were distracted into Bush's one-track foriegn policy in Iraq. McCain's economic strategy is non-existent and that is shameful.

[willdpj]

Oh almost forgot..Joe Biden was Obama's opponent in the primary. Now Obama and he are a team, and we will see how those remarks play out. But you have to be careful because if John McCain picks Romney as his VP prepare for the same questions to fly. McCain and Romney were extremely critical of each other on policy and ideals not just attributes.

[smartamateur]

And how do you know he will keep all those wonderful promises? Can you back it up with his awfully short Senate record? That's a pretty thin resume for the world's toughest job.

McCain is no rockstar like Obama is, but at least he's experienced and he is obviously the safer choice for president that Americans are now realizing. That is why he managed to wipe out Obama's lead.

[willdpj]

Did Bill Clinton or George Bush? I don't think he needs experience to create a $ 9 trillion debt, highest unemployment rate in recent history, deteriorating healthcare system and a war with no end in sight. I think not. It's time people start asking whether they think McCain will actually focus on the issues or just attack Obama's character constantly. Oh I forgot he wouldn't win that way!

[smartamateur]

And Obama also doesn't need experience to raise your taxes, which he is most likely to do.

[willdpj]

Under Obama's tax plan individuals with incomes over $250,000 would pay a slightly higher tax and those who make less than $50,000 would get a larger tax break than McCain's plan. Nonpartisan analysis has proven this. The 95 percent-plus of the American population that earns less than $250,000 would see the following tax breaks: A $500-per-worker tax credit for people who earn less than $150,000, $4,000 credit per child in college. Seniors who earn less than $50,000 would pay no income tax.

[willdpj]

You also have to remember with the economy the #1 issue for most Americans, McCain's belief that $4 million isn't rich, when people are struggling to keep their house and McCain doesn't even know how many he has and his top economic advisor Phil Gramm thinks the economic crisis is all in our heads, and McCain taking bribes from convicted felon Charles Keating. If McCain picks Romney as his VP it is just going to make him seem that much more out of touch with the American people.

[willdpj]

Barack Obama was raised by a single mother and just finished paying off the loans he needed to take out to get through college. His daughters get an allowance of $1 a week. Who do you think understands how much you are struggling through the Bush economy? I will credit McCain and republicans in general, blasting a candidates character seem to be more effective than staying on the trail explaining truths and a hope for change!

[willdpj]

Rockstar was a label placed upon him..it's not his fault the unbelievable and inspiring number of people that support him every time he speaks. The lead you speak of has diminished slightly depending on which poll out of so many you are looking at. However, just a 2 point lead can translate into a landslide in the general election. I will stop debating if you want..all I ask is for people to look real close at this election and that is what people are doing this time!

[smartamateur]

Kerry looks like he's about to explode. Why didn't Kerry respond like this when he was being attacked by the Swift Boat guys?

Sorry John Kerry, but Barack Obama will join you in the pantheon of presidential losers like Mike Dukakis, Bob Dole, and Al Gore. It takes experience and judgment to be president and Obama has neither. The Russia-Georgia crisis proved that.

[raydawg325]

u dimwit Gore won how could he be in the pantheon of presidential losers, u sir are dumber than a stone

[mfpribil]

Gore won the popular vote but lost in the all-important electoral college vote. Whether we like or not, the electoral college vote determines who will be president, not the popular vote.

And that was 8 years ago, get over it.

[willdpj]

Jon Kyl can't explain what the issue is because Republicans don't focus on issues. The only thing they attempt to do and sadly have been successful as of late is use those all to familiar scare-tactics. They figure if you scare the shit out of enough people you will always win. Well I say now more than ever America needs to focus on the real issues. John McCain cannot do this so make way for scare-tactics and smear ads..why are people so blind to this. I can't wait for the debates! Obama '08!

[pablokorona]

I actually thought kerry looks weak here. He's just playing the same old game at acute bullying and not allowing for a civil discussion. I agree with Kerry up until the point that he tried to debate. I'm sorry, but its a narrowminded defense that polarizes this discussion — we need less of that in DC and i was hoping Obama was going to be the guy to do it. I say hope, because i heard rumors of Kerry as VP...

Again, this is a good clip until he tries to be tough halfway through.

[Thrillcekr]

Ha! Unfortunately, if people cared about the facts, the Republicans wouldn't run campaigns like this. This is the country where Jerry Springer was king. People here don't want facts. They want drama and a big circus like atmosphere. Then when the shit hits the fan, they go broke and sit around whining about it. Well, it's their own fault and it's sad, but that's America today and if the Dems wanna win they better figure that out. The facts mean NOTHING!

[TokyoNiGHTS1]

Kerry's done an amazing job helping to get Obama elected. He's learned a lot after going through his own election where he was smeared. It's good to see that he's not just going to stand by while people try to do the same thing to Obama. More Democrats need to stand up and be as vocal about stopping smears against Obama as Kerry has been.

[willdpj]

That's why the Democratic convention is going to be amazing. Everyone associated with Democratic politics it seems will be speaking. I cannot wait. From the convention until the election Obama needs to attack McCain relentlessly as McCain has done to him. He can focus on how out of touch McCain is with the American people (# of homes, gas prices, def. of rich) or on how McCain has flip flopped on nearly every major issue to appease his conservative base, or that he's just an old senile gremlin!

[Progressivelady]

Score:

John Kerry 10

Jon Kyl -2

[agentoxide]

damn right

[nphony]

YES it gets under someone's skin! If an ad associated McCain with Adolf Hitler wouldn't some people be upset? Or if McCain were shown in an ad with images of the KKK? Just because some claim is completely devoid of truth doesn't mean it isn't a big deal to make that claim. My point is: admitting that an ad is effective doesn't relate at all to admitting the criticism in it is true!! Getting people to associate Britney with Obama is probably effective, regardless of being totally wrong.

[woodessence]

John Kerry is right on. He has already seen this game before.

...if you respond immediately to a smear then the republicans say junk like:

Was that getting under your skin?

or

Why did that (comparing to Britney Spears) make you so angry?

So John is doing the right thing, returning the dialog to the issues and the policies.

[dynovideoz]

way to go john kerry! just think if al gore had been president in 2000 or if kerry had won in '04. had al gore won, we would not have been attacked on 9/11, we would not be in iraq, and we would had alternative energy. had kerry won in '04, n. korea would not have the bomb, gas would not be $4 a gallon, and russia would not have invaded georgia. bush/cheney/putin are doin' oil grabs because they are in the oil business. put a wolf in the hen house, and you'll have chicken for dinner every night.

[Umberto2]

Kerry just owned this douche

[rkluter]

What manner of video is this, where everyone is talking at the same time? One of the persons is a respected commentator/interviewer on MSNBC who certainly is not behind any Obama smear campaign. So what was accomplished here? You're not going to show this on national TV, are you? No one, including John Kerry, could make make any points in Obama's favor; the Republican, Kyl, showed himself to be the asshole he is...maybe THAT is the point! Yuk, I'm getting so tired of this lunacy!!!

[NYFMA]

Republicans suck.

[humder]

I felt like applauding from my own chair then.

[dayglowgreendoor]

Hey, the oil companies and Princey Bush are running scared. Being corrupt, criminal and greedy causes a reaction toward anything that threatens to change the status quo. This country is too far gone to expect anything resembling Obama's change, but that the audacity of hope.

[nvpatentlawyer]

We cannot sit back and take these low road lying attacks anymore. First it was painting Max Cleland as a traitor. Then it was denying John Kerry's heroic Viet Nam record. Now it is transparent racism and fear tactics. Enoufgh is enough. Barack Obama is a brilliant man with superb judgment and a vision that will bring America out of this hole Bush/Cheney/McCain dug for us. Thank you Jon Kerry for finally gettig it. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Hit back. Call the lies what they are.