Ahh the evolutionism worshipers cant help trolling. Its quite sad how pathetic they are. Trolling on a simple little video like this. No wonder the ladies dont want anything to do with them. Unless of coarse they have plenty of money. Alpha males they are certainly not. lol!
@Cypherus21 What, are you new to the internet? That's called a troll. And you responded just like he wanted. Not with reason or facts, but emotionally. Not a good way to defend your point of view. You might try actual peer-reviewed data in discussions, but otherwise, don't feed the trolls. So, pro-flood, or anti-flood? I go with what the earth says, as it has no agenda. No global flood.
@Cypherus21 Actually, It shed a great deal of light on the evaporative process going on in these enclosed basins. Some were first cycle basins with evaportation coming directly from contact with oceanic sources, others were inlands salt pans with drainage coming from mountain areas. This determined by the bromide concentration - high ppm in ocean sourced, low to nonexistent in continental sources. Additionally, the thickness and expanse of the deposits show that (continued)
@Cypherus21 as an evaporite bed the amount of time required for their deposition directly contradicts the flood myth. When you have 9 trillion cu meters of nearly pure halite in one deposit alone, you just don't get in there in the 1 year span of the book of Genesis' Flood account.
I don't follow. The point I was making regarding epicontinental seas, such as the one that intercepted North America, was that sea levels did reach levels akin to catastrophic flooding in the past. More evidence for a global flood, however, exists with the hundreds of flood myths preserved all over the world in cultures geographically and socially isolated. 95% of them describe a global cataclysmic deluge. And you include yourself in the modern bunch that call them liars...
@Cypherus21 It's pretty simple really. the amount of evaporite deposits, their chemistry, and the physics behind their creation all show conclusively that such a flood never happened. Heat is required for these processes and the amount of heat required is simply too much for the 1 year duration claimed by Genesis literalists.
Looks like you're just throwing in all your chips in the basket that favors a simple scientific explanation and you wish to close the door on any competing findings that I won't bother communicating here. The hundreds of cultural flood myths that all tell of a similar event with 95% confidence similarity is enough evidence on a sociology standpoint that some global flood event did happen despite the mundane conclusions of positivism.
@Cypherus21 What's common about all these "flood myths", that they come primarily from agrarian cultures that would settle on the best soils. And where might these be? ON FLOODPLAINS! Big suprise that, eh? And no, they do not share common threads. All have different causes, different deities involved, what was taken, etc etc etc. This is what real scholarship shows, not the usual "internet expert" that is encountered. Go with facts, not fiction. And I've 9 trillion cu meters of facts.
I suggest you read the magnitudes of cultural flood myths and get up to speed with the immensity of documented scholarly similarities between them rather than hastily brushing them off. As well, the Ojibwe natives were nomadic and did not practice subsistence agriculture, which contradicts your flood plain settlement argument. As well, different deities based on cultural characteristics does not lend to your argument insofar they are cited as the reasons for the flood.
@Cypherus21 I'm from Michigan, and have met quite a few people from the Ojibwe Nation in the UP. And guess where they live.....Great Lakes. Hmmm. Post-glacial flooding and seasonal rains and melts, just like North Dakota is suffering right now. So unless you think the earth rests on the back of a giant turtle and the new earth was formed by a muskrat, your argument is a non-starter. Like i said go with the data. And The Michigan basin is a part of it. Salt and heat.
Again you turn the other cheek to the big picture (i.e. the natives didn't say it was a local flood and like other myths written in isolation, they said reason for flooding was from a displeased creator; animals were also saved; a family was chosen). I see you continue to score yourself some points with anecdotal interpretations and silly notions that you have scientific information advantages over others. As such, I won't reciprocate your beating of a dead horse.
@Cypherus21 You're giving up? Fine with me. This is why courts prefer forensic science over eyewitness testimony, no bias. And yes, science is the advantage. You're not exactly shouting out a window to your neighbors, now are you? Since you seem to be missing the point, I'll quit tiptoeing around what I've got to share and just lay it out. I use the salt and heat issue since it's simpler and easier, usually, for the non-professional to understand. (Continued)
@Cypherus21 Now I'm going to assume that you've never heard of either the Opeche Shale or the Williston Basin? And that's fine. Most people without a background in geology never have either. Now the Opeche is part of a formation that runs from the Dakotas to Texas and in the Williston Basin, at the deepest point is salt. Over 91 meters of Permian age salt as determined from palyonolgical sampling. Now the area covered by this deposit is 188,400 sq km. (continued)
@Cypherus21 Now dividing that by 2 to get an assumed average of 45 meters, we are left with approx 9 trillion cu meters of NaCl. Enough for one bitching Margarita, eh? Now salt has a density of 2,160 kg/m^3 so this represents the evaporation of 540,000 cubic kilometers of seawater. To evaporate this much water requires 10^24 joules input of heat energy. That's more than 2x the amount of energy required to raise the temperature of the atmosphere to 100 deg C. (contined)
@Cypherus21 Ergo, Noah, had he actually existed, would've been cooked like a lobster in a pot. Game Over. Now none of this matters without data to back it up: Wilgus, Cheryl K. and William T. Holser, 1984. "Marine and Nonmarine Salts of Western Interior, United States," AAPG Bulletin. p. 765-766. For the rest, refer to any first year college chemistry book. And this is just just one formation we've looked at. There are hundreds all over the world. Hope that made things more understandable.
Ahh the evolutionism worshipers cant help trolling. Its quite sad how pathetic they are. Trolling on a simple little video like this. No wonder the ladies dont want anything to do with them. Unless of coarse they have plenty of money. Alpha males they are certainly not. lol!
FlameGurl06 9 months ago
I was taught about the flood when I was 7. Too late, I was too smart by then and knew it was silly.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Can't read enough, too fast
fcedulaiii 1 year ago
wow, just wow......this must be one of THE most retarded video's EVER made by mankind.
are you fucking serious? way to go to acompany it with typical redneck music, just packs a touch of stupid to the already retarded message.
and btw, that is the UGLIEST, "ark" ever fucking made. Like wtf? you creationists are just a bunch of weird mofo's.
Astr0chimp 1 year ago
@Astr0chimp
You're so full of hate that you're dead inside.
Cypherus21 1 year ago
@Cypherus21 What, are you new to the internet? That's called a troll. And you responded just like he wanted. Not with reason or facts, but emotionally. Not a good way to defend your point of view. You might try actual peer-reviewed data in discussions, but otherwise, don't feed the trolls. So, pro-flood, or anti-flood? I go with what the earth says, as it has no agenda. No global flood.
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
@NorthForkFisherman
So I suppose your peer reviewed data and prior discussions on the matter failed to shed light on epicontinental seas...
Cypherus21 10 months ago
@Cypherus21 Actually, It shed a great deal of light on the evaporative process going on in these enclosed basins. Some were first cycle basins with evaportation coming directly from contact with oceanic sources, others were inlands salt pans with drainage coming from mountain areas. This determined by the bromide concentration - high ppm in ocean sourced, low to nonexistent in continental sources. Additionally, the thickness and expanse of the deposits show that (continued)
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
@Cypherus21 as an evaporite bed the amount of time required for their deposition directly contradicts the flood myth. When you have 9 trillion cu meters of nearly pure halite in one deposit alone, you just don't get in there in the 1 year span of the book of Genesis' Flood account.
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
@NorthForkFisherman
I don't follow. The point I was making regarding epicontinental seas, such as the one that intercepted North America, was that sea levels did reach levels akin to catastrophic flooding in the past. More evidence for a global flood, however, exists with the hundreds of flood myths preserved all over the world in cultures geographically and socially isolated. 95% of them describe a global cataclysmic deluge. And you include yourself in the modern bunch that call them liars...
Cypherus21 10 months ago
@Cypherus21 It's pretty simple really. the amount of evaporite deposits, their chemistry, and the physics behind their creation all show conclusively that such a flood never happened. Heat is required for these processes and the amount of heat required is simply too much for the 1 year duration claimed by Genesis literalists.
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
@NorthForkFisherman
Looks like you're just throwing in all your chips in the basket that favors a simple scientific explanation and you wish to close the door on any competing findings that I won't bother communicating here. The hundreds of cultural flood myths that all tell of a similar event with 95% confidence similarity is enough evidence on a sociology standpoint that some global flood event did happen despite the mundane conclusions of positivism.
Cypherus21 10 months ago
@Cypherus21 What's common about all these "flood myths", that they come primarily from agrarian cultures that would settle on the best soils. And where might these be? ON FLOODPLAINS! Big suprise that, eh? And no, they do not share common threads. All have different causes, different deities involved, what was taken, etc etc etc. This is what real scholarship shows, not the usual "internet expert" that is encountered. Go with facts, not fiction. And I've 9 trillion cu meters of facts.
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
@NorthForkFisherman
I suggest you read the magnitudes of cultural flood myths and get up to speed with the immensity of documented scholarly similarities between them rather than hastily brushing them off. As well, the Ojibwe natives were nomadic and did not practice subsistence agriculture, which contradicts your flood plain settlement argument. As well, different deities based on cultural characteristics does not lend to your argument insofar they are cited as the reasons for the flood.
Cypherus21 10 months ago
@Cypherus21 I'm from Michigan, and have met quite a few people from the Ojibwe Nation in the UP. And guess where they live.....Great Lakes. Hmmm. Post-glacial flooding and seasonal rains and melts, just like North Dakota is suffering right now. So unless you think the earth rests on the back of a giant turtle and the new earth was formed by a muskrat, your argument is a non-starter. Like i said go with the data. And The Michigan basin is a part of it. Salt and heat.
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
@NorthForkFisherman
Again you turn the other cheek to the big picture (i.e. the natives didn't say it was a local flood and like other myths written in isolation, they said reason for flooding was from a displeased creator; animals were also saved; a family was chosen). I see you continue to score yourself some points with anecdotal interpretations and silly notions that you have scientific information advantages over others. As such, I won't reciprocate your beating of a dead horse.
Cypherus21 10 months ago
@Cypherus21 You're giving up? Fine with me. This is why courts prefer forensic science over eyewitness testimony, no bias. And yes, science is the advantage. You're not exactly shouting out a window to your neighbors, now are you? Since you seem to be missing the point, I'll quit tiptoeing around what I've got to share and just lay it out. I use the salt and heat issue since it's simpler and easier, usually, for the non-professional to understand. (Continued)
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
@Cypherus21 Now I'm going to assume that you've never heard of either the Opeche Shale or the Williston Basin? And that's fine. Most people without a background in geology never have either. Now the Opeche is part of a formation that runs from the Dakotas to Texas and in the Williston Basin, at the deepest point is salt. Over 91 meters of Permian age salt as determined from palyonolgical sampling. Now the area covered by this deposit is 188,400 sq km. (continued)
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
@Cypherus21 Now dividing that by 2 to get an assumed average of 45 meters, we are left with approx 9 trillion cu meters of NaCl. Enough for one bitching Margarita, eh? Now salt has a density of 2,160 kg/m^3 so this represents the evaporation of 540,000 cubic kilometers of seawater. To evaporate this much water requires 10^24 joules input of heat energy. That's more than 2x the amount of energy required to raise the temperature of the atmosphere to 100 deg C. (contined)
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
@Cypherus21 Ergo, Noah, had he actually existed, would've been cooked like a lobster in a pot. Game Over. Now none of this matters without data to back it up: Wilgus, Cheryl K. and William T. Holser, 1984. "Marine and Nonmarine Salts of Western Interior, United States," AAPG Bulletin. p. 765-766. For the rest, refer to any first year college chemistry book. And this is just just one formation we've looked at. There are hundreds all over the world. Hope that made things more understandable.
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
GOD bless you brother Nick!
sussexcounty 2 years ago