Dorian is one of David Gilmour favorite scales. Also, Plo Koon, a fictional Keldor jedi master from the old republic era was from Dorion. he did not have scale
Easiest way to remember the dorian mode is it is built starting on the 2nd of a major scale ..that is it in a nutshell. The raised 6th is a nice tone that sets it apart from the relative minor.
Dorian mode is built like natural minor scale, except you have raised sixth degree. If you want to build A Dorian, just take A minor and raise it. A B C D E F G . F to F#. You get A Dorian. Now, does this [A B C D E F# G A] looks like something? Flip it a little you get E Minor/G Major. Every Dorian mode works like that (others as well). So, if you wanna play Dorian, just see which note is the fifth of the root, and play it's minor scale (A > E Minor; E > H minor; C > G minor etc)...
@TheUnforgivenGenius thanks for that correlation.i know also that in some cases you can use Fmaj/Dmin over Amin chord progressions.how does that relate and are there any other scale shapes that work over Amin(obviously Amin/Cmaj) and if so what is there correlation.then again not every Amin chord progression sounds good with Fmaj/Dmin scale shapes.whats up with that?
@calebsj Check your inbox :) Fmaj/Dmin over Am chord progression makes it A Phrygian. Same thing works with every mode. X phrygian = X's fourth note minor scale (in this case A/D). For E Phrygian it would be Amin/Cmaj scale...etc...
@calebsj Same's with other modes: Ionian = Root. Dorian = Fifth. Phrygian = Fourth. Lydian = major third. Mixolydian = nat. second. Aeolian = sixth. Locrian = minor seventh. So A Ionian = A maj/F#min, A Dorian = Emin/Gmaj, A Phrygian = Dmin/Fmaj, A Lydian = C#min/Emaj, A mixolydian = Bmin/Dmaj. A aeolian = Fmin/Amaj and A locrian = Gmin/A#maj. Hope u get it :)
I'm a bit confused - no, I'm a lot confused! I thought there were 17 notes in that mode ( scale ). Why do some people teach just 15 - why not keep it standard? All comments appreciated.
Technically Dorian is a mode not a scale, similar, yes but Dorian is a mode not a scale but depending on how you view it, it can be used as a scale but technically it is a mode
Yeah there are a lot of dangerous people around and a lot of them and 99 percent of the know it all 's are on You Tube and think they know everything about playing the guitar when their knowledge wouldn't fill up a thimble
Metal players are the guys who tend to focus on modes, Jazz players tend to place more emphasis on chords.
In my experience, there are people who spend endless hours learning the modes in all positions, then have no idea how to use them, because they've bypassed chord knowledge (The one thing they're going to spend most of the time doing)
@skatedagger Unless your gonna go with John Cages 4min 33 I think one definite rule would be that there would have to be sound in the equation somewhere. :)
From then on it gets progressively more structured right up to 4/4, 5/4 and such like. And thats considering electronic minimism right up to popular music.
Its funny , i learned how to play guitar before i learned what i was playing on the guitar . I had to teach myself when young now im learning exactly what each scale is called . I can play them all but never could tell youy what they were . This is good , thanks for the vid !
Good teaching and nice sound. I've learned something. Thanks. There's a lot of so-called self-proclaiimed teachers on YouTube, that are not teachers or players.
@sjphs I disagree. The dorian/blues/ and minor pentatonic are the backbone of almost all genres. It's the easiest thing to fall back on when playing, and it's very useful. That being said, you should learn your major scales, cause if you know your major scale, you already know all the modes. Cause A Dorian is just G Major; that's how people should be looking at the modes, rather than separate scales to learn.
@niggerfuckshitreborn up to a certain point i agree with you, but i have a music theory of my own... music theory is all based on natural feels you can figure out just with emotion; take SRV for example; he did not know theory. if what comes out sounds good thats the point. if you have to learn theory, good. if you can play by ear even better.
@mjbrslou1 what you are saying is illogical.. music theory is not based on natural feel.. music theory is the study of how music works.. meaning its as stale and straightforward as mathematics. SRV was a blues guitarist. he DID know theory.. the music theory required to pay the blues.. he just didnt venture further than that. if you learn theory and stop using your ear, bad. if you rely on your ear without learning theory, equally bad. if you learn theory and incorporate it with ur ear, good.
@MrApocalyte I just used minor scales and made relation between mode and the given key in the same way you did with the major..it works as well :) But, if you know major, you know minor..it's all the same (A min = C maj, E min = G maj etc.)
@sjphs Yes, once you learn all the modes, then you can learn the blues easily. However, classical music theory doesn't even talk about linking blues (since the 6 note minor scale wasn't around) and dorian; it's not supposed to work! What I like doing as well is using the dorian and blues over the root chord, but switching to mixolydian over the 4th and 5th in a blues progression and with some songs I will form it into a dominant 7th arpeggio. I have 30-years of music theory experience BTW.
Guys, a good ear will help more than any theory in the world but that doesn't mean to say that theory isnt useful. It can really give you much more scope and ability to play with musicians from different backgrounds eg. Jazz.
Buy Aurelia ear training software, it will improve your ear to amazing levels AND teach you theory at the same time.
I can't agree more with the ear part of what you say, some people are just so deaf they don't notice they are playing something annoying and terrible, or maybe they just don't care lol.
Go check out Will Landrums site. He'll give you a tons of videos for free on how to improvise and play lead guitar. Just give him your e-mail address and you are ready to ROCK.
The simple fact is, if your a true musician, you will try to learn every aspect of your instrument. So you assholes that keep baggin on these guys for trying to share this shit need to take a chill pill. if you have a fucking problem with what they have to say then watch something else. quit being so narrow minded and have some respect for the guys that have learned this shit. Personally i wanna learn everything i can.
great teacher. I learned. Very good. How ever. I do like to improvise. I don't know what the "scales, patterns are called" but I know what you are talking about. I am a self taught musician. I learned by ear and to me the most important thing is the Feelin' with out it there is nothing. I mean Elvis could have gotten great musician to record, however he chose those who had that Feelin' and that is what makes up great musicians.
i think learning this stuff only gets in the way if you let it. wut sounds good should be wut you play no matter the notes whether theyre apart of a scale or not. but learning the theory allows you to find the sounds your ear is looking for most of the time.
Information is correct in the video, Yes it is !! Key of G would be the ionian mode scale (major mode) so the second mode will be Dorian in A key (minor mode scale)
the dorian mode it's the second degree of a major scale(ionian)so if you play a A dorian mode : A B C D E F# G you are in the key of G but you start the scale from the second degree (A)let's compare A dorian and key of A
A B C D E F# G (A dorian mode )
A B C# D E F# G#(key of A) so as yuo can see it's not in the key of A as it use the same notes of the key of G.this in a tonal contest,becouse i consider modes ant keys two different things.
mazzimus1, i can´t agree with you m8 !! Happens all the time lol To be in the key of G it would be the Ionian mode that is a Major one, so the second will be a minor one, the dorian mode of key A right !? Dorian scale in key of G will be : G A A# C D E F G Ionian = ( Major mode ) Dorian = (minor mode) All this info´s at the video are are correct. If ya want we can call it too the Ionian scale in the key of G, that is the Dorian scale mode of A key Best Regards mariocouet Portugal
im a little curious but im a somewhat beginner (been playin for 5 months ok with chords and rhythm now) but i plan on playing classic rock southern rock and 80s metal style of guitar an im wonderin what other scales do i need to learn besides the pentatonic scale the blues scale and the major scale. and how long will it take me to learn them. also is there a name for a scale that involves finger tapping. mainly stuff like Eddie Van Halen?
codyjt5150: Eddie himself uses pentatonics all the time. Just master a couple of his tapping licks and you'll be able to create your own. There really isn't any specific scale for tapping. You can use any scale you want. For 80's metal, I would reccomend exotic stuff like Harmonic Minor and Phyrigian Dominant. However, it usually all comes down to pentatonics, modified or in its boxed form. Hope this helps!
about scales i dont know very much but 4 tapping u need to transposicionate tha notes
ej: u have your pentatonic ad u will star to play it in the 12 fret E string ok? BUT all the notes u will be playing will be in tha same string then transpocionate it and vuala! you can play with that, hope it is usefull n:_:n
the reason its important to know the difference is that once you know how modes work, you realize that there are several different tonalities to be had with only one scale. This opens up the scale to much more versatility. Calling the Dorian mode a scale rather than a mode is like saying there is only one tonality per scale, which is of course very wrong. Guitar players especially should know how they work because guitar players use them so often.
the only person on here who knows what they are talking about is cobracarg. The "major scale" is technically different than the "Ionian mode." It seems strange because they have the same notes, but what makes them different is that "mode" refers to the tonal center (tonic) of what you're playing, and scale refers to a sequence or pattern that you play in.
well the point of music is that you feel the music and make whatever you want with it :). If you can't feel it and just do it from raw intellectual view it's kinda ... uhm, it feels that's been forced to do, or it's not as musical as with-feeling-it-played-music :D. With every day there's more music done from an intellectual view which really sucks. Well myself I'm not 100% emotional with music, i have my own patterns, calculations in my head, but I try to be musically free as much as i can.
We're all brainwashed to some point, it's almost impossible to escape from it, so we're confined when trying to invent something new in music. For every coming generation of kids the art-making is going to be harder I guess.
True....but there's nothing wrong with doing both. It's all about how your brain is wired. MY buddy Nick has a hell of a time playing without written music, but when he DOES have music in front of him, he's incredible. I hardly ever read music, and so have a hard time when I do read music, but I'm amazing when I play by ear. Sheet music is simply a means of communicating ideas...what's on the page is merely a suggestion. What makes the music awesome comes from the player's heart.
You are right! I started playing guitar athe age of 14. I didn' read, just by ear. In my late twentties I started to take guitar classes, just for the theory. Since then I kind of lost my hearing abilities. I rely now too much on the theory.
It's all just part of the theory man. You can just drive a car for example. It just depends if you want to know how and why and what the car does, when it does it. Shit man.. I play more by feeling my self... but it does help to know a little theory.
im sorry but you need to learn what the fuck your talking about before you post teaching vids online. All of you musically ignorant people out there listen up! DORIAN IS NOT A SCALE, its a MODE. there is a HUGE difference!
thats nonsense... you dont know what you are talking about...you say that mode or scale are interchangeable and you'll get a big fat F in music school...
you just proved my point... Am dorian is different from a G major position.... just because they both have the same notes doesnt mean that they are the same thing.... let me give you an example...
The Am pentatonic scale has exactly the same notes has a C major pentatonic....but they are not the same scale...
the point i am trying to get across is that just because Am dorian has the same notes as a G major scale ... it doesnt mean they are interchangable
no they are not... going the pentatonic example.... you you try to emphasize the G note if you are playing over the key of A...its going to sound like shit... so they are different
@drooghound well u sound like a good one. i thought myself guitar and i just make my own damned scales and it works way better then planning everything out. saves up a lot of study time too. since i never had a teacher. (i am a singer in a choire though. and thought myself various singing techniques. so that helps with harmony understanding)
@drooghound All you need i s a few tricks scales and alot of diffrent influences and you can play. Whether someone plays good or bad is a diffrent story.But yeah i agree you don't need to learn that many scales to be good like marty friedman says, you can find the shapes that suit your liking.
@drooghound That's exactly how I view the Ionian versus the Dorian versus the Phrygian versus the Lydian scale shapes etc.
Treat them as scales and you can finally see how to play them over certain chords.
If you're just getting into this whole modal thing like I am, what's helping me out is All Guitar Chords, google the site, its friggin awesome, its got scales chords and everything you need.
Anyway, forgive the plug but I'm actually understanding this shit now by treating them as scales.
@drooghound Well put. I am a guitar teacher as well and I couldn't agree with you more. People come to me thinking that if they don't understand everything about the modes, they will not be able to play lead guitar. I like theory a lot and I teach it every day but I always tell my students that too much theory and not enough feel will make them robots. Great comment. Thanks.
that is incorrect.. each mode has its own tonal qualities which need to be spelled out whilst improvising to make it sound like the particular mode.so even if ur vamping over Am. u can flavour or build your solo based on qualities of the mode.. you could play A phrygian over it or A Dorian etc.. so if your learning modes you actually wanna learn the key sounds of what each mode sounds like..if u dont get hung up on learning these sounds your gonna sound as bad as every other dick
I did not say that modes did not have their own character, but most songs (even the most meathead metal song) have chord changes, if you don't understand how chords work you can never really suss modes out.
I teach music for a living, Dorian is a mode of the major scale, but a scale none the less. So everyone is half right; scale and mode are not interchangeable and the fact that dorian is a mode of another scale does not take away the fact that its a scale (its a variant of the major scale)
what ever key your in you play that shape in that key. So this guys is playing it in A as he says but lets say if you want to play it in B, then all your do is move this shape 2 fretts up which is where the B is. hope that helped.
yea it did thanks, but lets say your playing in key of A dorian scale and your getting tired of playing in that same position, how do you move around the fretboard? are there different shapes or can you only play that position aswell as an octave up?
yes you can play it an octave up and you can find the exact same notes somwhere else on the freettboard, but it wont necessarily be the same shape. same notes but not the smae shape. So instead of starting on the 5th fret for an A dorian scale. You can also use the open A string. same goes for B, G and every other note. If you have a C # and you are on the low E string then you can play the same scale on the 4TH frett A string (which is a C#)
hope tht hepled too im very bad at explaingin things
one way to look at it is this. For the ionian (major)scale, there are 7 basic shapes (one starting on each note) as you move up the neck. The Dorian scale is simply the second shape. So in D Dorian - its C major but D to D, not C to C. So this means to get the subsequent shapes in dorian, all you do is use the next one along. So the second position in dorian would be the 3rd position in ionian/major. You just have to remember which note you areusing as the root.
E dorian is D major modes are just rotations of the major scale. E is the second scale degree of d major. Dorian starts on the second scale degree of a major scale .
in all honesty ur all wrong, if you would play that dorian mode in A ur just playing a major scale off a 4th instead of the normal route. for example E dorian mode IS A major. but its fun to play it with the petatonic scale of its 4th
woops your right its a 4th above the root so it would be D, ive used it with A major scales before though but that would make sense too i guess cause A and D sound really good together
baaaah .. "looks real baad..." Give some construcive criticism, when you can´t do this.. the guitar player cant do anything with such a damn comment....
umm, totaljerk, yeah i take it u play also, just a guess, u suck aswel, and yea, and yea thats a funny time to say sumthing bout my mum u cyberpussy, bu im not gonna shit on ur level, just knowing that ud never actually say that to my face u coward makes me laugh enough faggot
How about you post a better one. I'm sure you could, you did a good job with your one video. Just don't criticize until you've got something to show him up.
i dont need to post some video on youtube to prove my point, if u tried the pattern i actually teach in a music school you'd probably agree that it works better for a beginner...
He means that you use the scale in a minor chord progression although dorian works in both. Like mixolydian and lydian are major scales and phrygian is minor. This scale is minor because he's mixing it with the minor pentatonic scale and it thus works over an a minor chord progression.
He did make a simple mistake, but he did say i what key it was in because an a minor scale is in the key of a minor. Scale and key mean the same thing. He does need to study a bit though.
well dorian in the key of A minor starts on D Right?the dorian would be the c major scale starting at the second note in C major being D.you started on A.and C majors relative minor key is A minor
I was halfway through the video when DeepSea - Whatever his name is - put his comment up. I swear, you're so arrogant. I've never seen anybody as stupid as you. It actually humors me to read someone say they're "Cool" when they can't even put together a complete sentence. Good luck in life.
I accidentally taught myself this scale without knowing it was a Dorian. Woops:0
NOIZYtank 1 month ago
YOUR TELLIN ME YOU BUILT A TIME MACHINE....OUT OF A DORIAN??? LOL
superreverbfreak 2 months ago 2
Dorian is one of David Gilmour favorite scales. Also, Plo Koon, a fictional Keldor jedi master from the old republic era was from Dorion. he did not have scale
glaxko2 2 months ago 2
why in god's name it this the top hit for 'dorian scale'? how are these things rated, randomly or something?
purplegreenredyellow 3 months ago
Comment removed
AndreasSku93 4 months ago
Easiest way to remember the dorian mode is it is built starting on the 2nd of a major scale ..that is it in a nutshell. The raised 6th is a nice tone that sets it apart from the relative minor.
mikko522 5 months ago
Dorian mode is built like natural minor scale, except you have raised sixth degree. If you want to build A Dorian, just take A minor and raise it. A B C D E F G . F to F#. You get A Dorian. Now, does this [A B C D E F# G A] looks like something? Flip it a little you get E Minor/G Major. Every Dorian mode works like that (others as well). So, if you wanna play Dorian, just see which note is the fifth of the root, and play it's minor scale (A > E Minor; E > H minor; C > G minor etc)...
TheUnforgivenGenius 6 months ago
@TheUnforgivenGenius thanks for that correlation.i know also that in some cases you can use Fmaj/Dmin over Amin chord progressions.how does that relate and are there any other scale shapes that work over Amin(obviously Amin/Cmaj) and if so what is there correlation.then again not every Amin chord progression sounds good with Fmaj/Dmin scale shapes.whats up with that?
calebsj 3 months ago
@calebsj Check your inbox :) Fmaj/Dmin over Am chord progression makes it A Phrygian. Same thing works with every mode. X phrygian = X's fourth note minor scale (in this case A/D). For E Phrygian it would be Amin/Cmaj scale...etc...
TheUnforgivenGenius 3 months ago
@calebsj Same's with other modes: Ionian = Root. Dorian = Fifth. Phrygian = Fourth. Lydian = major third. Mixolydian = nat. second. Aeolian = sixth. Locrian = minor seventh. So A Ionian = A maj/F#min, A Dorian = Emin/Gmaj, A Phrygian = Dmin/Fmaj, A Lydian = C#min/Emaj, A mixolydian = Bmin/Dmaj. A aeolian = Fmin/Amaj and A locrian = Gmin/A#maj. Hope u get it :)
TheUnforgivenGenius 3 months ago 3
his nervous twitching scares me
stoob1969 6 months ago 2
I'm a bit confused - no, I'm a lot confused! I thought there were 17 notes in that mode ( scale ). Why do some people teach just 15 - why not keep it standard? All comments appreciated.
Feet4hands 7 months ago
Technically Dorian is a mode not a scale, similar, yes but Dorian is a mode not a scale but depending on how you view it, it can be used as a scale but technically it is a mode
thrashyourassoff 7 months ago
unsecure young teacher, wrong position of the guitar
lslboss 7 months ago
@lslboss
You mean insecure?
JorgeL721 5 months ago
A dorian is in the key of G, not A, unless you explicitly refer to a "modal key"
Uberloinvongenchler 8 months ago
that is so true drooghound im an instructor and i say just jam
guitar30ify 10 months ago
Yeah there are a lot of dangerous people around and a lot of them and 99 percent of the know it all 's are on You Tube and think they know everything about playing the guitar when their knowledge wouldn't fill up a thimble
TheStratman2617 10 months ago
What the fuck are these 3 awful mistakes that 99% of guitarists do???Can someone tell me?please!..
Nicklive2 10 months ago
my name is dorian
loliloliloliable 10 months ago 16
@loliloliloliable i should hit you with a brick for saying that
CobaltSpieder777 9 months ago
@loliloliloliable HAHA
1bol1 9 months ago
@loliloliloliable same!
iasian246 2 weeks ago
Metal players are the guys who tend to focus on modes, Jazz players tend to place more emphasis on chords.
In my experience, there are people who spend endless hours learning the modes in all positions, then have no idea how to use them, because they've bypassed chord knowledge (The one thing they're going to spend most of the time doing)
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
There are lots of dangerous people around.
drooghound 11 months ago
good demo
irchristo 11 months ago
you dont need rules to make music
skatedagger 11 months ago
@skatedagger Unless your gonna go with John Cages 4min 33 I think one definite rule would be that there would have to be sound in the equation somewhere. :)
From then on it gets progressively more structured right up to 4/4, 5/4 and such like. And thats considering electronic minimism right up to popular music.
By the way... BO!!!!
finnsquib 11 months ago
Its funny , i learned how to play guitar before i learned what i was playing on the guitar . I had to teach myself when young now im learning exactly what each scale is called . I can play them all but never could tell youy what they were . This is good , thanks for the vid !
wantedbythefbi 1 year ago
If you learn the seven modes it will connect the fretboard and you see how it all connects together...especially for bass guitar...it's super easy
pengyou55 1 year ago
isthere a technical name for blues scale if its different from dorian and Penta?
44eelz 1 year ago
@44eelz 'the' blues scale :P
HJubb 1 year ago
better than expert village .
JIGZGTB 1 year ago 3
@JIGZGTB Shit is better than expert village.
falcoperegrinus82 1 year ago
i'm horny
oldgays 1 year ago
Good teaching and nice sound. I've learned something. Thanks. There's a lot of so-called self-proclaiimed teachers on YouTube, that are not teachers or players.
laughingprophet 1 year ago
finally some useful lesson on how to combine all these three....tnx
Raffo65 1 year ago
excellent video...............
sid77777 1 year ago
don't waste time trying to fugure it out, just learn the major and minor scale. you'll be on the same road. i am too a music teacher!
sjphs 1 year ago 7
@sjphs I disagree. The dorian/blues/ and minor pentatonic are the backbone of almost all genres. It's the easiest thing to fall back on when playing, and it's very useful. That being said, you should learn your major scales, cause if you know your major scale, you already know all the modes. Cause A Dorian is just G Major; that's how people should be looking at the modes, rather than separate scales to learn.
MrApocalyte 1 year ago
@MrApocalyte man.. plz dude cus u know basic theory dont go out giving lessons.. you dont knowhat ur talking about.
niggerfuckshitreborn 7 months ago
@niggerfuckshitreborn up to a certain point i agree with you, but i have a music theory of my own... music theory is all based on natural feels you can figure out just with emotion; take SRV for example; he did not know theory. if what comes out sounds good thats the point. if you have to learn theory, good. if you can play by ear even better.
mjbrslou1 7 months ago 2
@mjbrslou1 what you are saying is illogical.. music theory is not based on natural feel.. music theory is the study of how music works.. meaning its as stale and straightforward as mathematics. SRV was a blues guitarist. he DID know theory.. the music theory required to pay the blues.. he just didnt venture further than that. if you learn theory and stop using your ear, bad. if you rely on your ear without learning theory, equally bad. if you learn theory and incorporate it with ur ear, good.
niggerfuckshitreborn 7 months ago 3
@niggerfuckshitreborn Really? Then tell me why I don't know what I'm talking about.
MrApocalyte 5 months ago
@MrApocalyte just stop embaressing urself .
niggerfuckshitreborn 5 months ago
@MrApocalyte I just used minor scales and made relation between mode and the given key in the same way you did with the major..it works as well :) But, if you know major, you know minor..it's all the same (A min = C maj, E min = G maj etc.)
TheUnforgivenGenius 3 months ago
@sjphs Yes, once you learn all the modes, then you can learn the blues easily. However, classical music theory doesn't even talk about linking blues (since the 6 note minor scale wasn't around) and dorian; it's not supposed to work! What I like doing as well is using the dorian and blues over the root chord, but switching to mixolydian over the 4th and 5th in a blues progression and with some songs I will form it into a dominant 7th arpeggio. I have 30-years of music theory experience BTW.
kc8ntp 3 weeks ago
Omg you saved me man thanks a ton!!!!
daydarklord14 1 year ago
oh well back to marty he is more interesting
crookedhorns1 1 year ago 5
@crookedhorns1 hahahaha
juniwilliams 1 year ago
FUCK, THIS SHIT IS HARD!
zhn0k 1 year ago 4
This has been flagged as spam show
@zhn0k
2 minutes ago
don't waste time trying to fugure it out, just learn the major and minor scale. you'll be on the same road. i am too a music teacher!
sjphs 1 year ago
yeah nice man very very nice
dariocasatibassista 1 year ago
i love how he pronounces pentatonic... great lesson
Ibroadcastmyself17 1 year ago
Guys, a good ear will help more than any theory in the world but that doesn't mean to say that theory isnt useful. It can really give you much more scope and ability to play with musicians from different backgrounds eg. Jazz.
Buy Aurelia ear training software, it will improve your ear to amazing levels AND teach you theory at the same time.
guitarshredking 1 year ago
I can't agree more with the ear part of what you say, some people are just so deaf they don't notice they are playing something annoying and terrible, or maybe they just don't care lol.
carlosewm 1 year ago
Comment removed
guitarshredking 1 year ago
Thanks man!!! Very helpful for me!!!!
nehocyrrah 1 year ago
Go check out Will Landrums site. He'll give you a tons of videos for free on how to improvise and play lead guitar. Just give him your e-mail address and you are ready to ROCK.
JeffreyCentino97 1 year ago
The simple fact is, if your a true musician, you will try to learn every aspect of your instrument. So you assholes that keep baggin on these guys for trying to share this shit need to take a chill pill. if you have a fucking problem with what they have to say then watch something else. quit being so narrow minded and have some respect for the guys that have learned this shit. Personally i wanna learn everything i can.
Guitarkin666 1 year ago 4
its too quiet
hubbabubba935 1 year ago
combination with chromatic scale will be awesome
bantenzSkid 1 year ago
great teacher. I learned. Very good. How ever. I do like to improvise. I don't know what the "scales, patterns are called" but I know what you are talking about. I am a self taught musician. I learned by ear and to me the most important thing is the Feelin' with out it there is nothing. I mean Elvis could have gotten great musician to record, however he chose those who had that Feelin' and that is what makes up great musicians.
stratman7000 1 year ago
i think learning this stuff only gets in the way if you let it. wut sounds good should be wut you play no matter the notes whether theyre apart of a scale or not. but learning the theory allows you to find the sounds your ear is looking for most of the time.
johndawson420 1 year ago
THATS MY MOTHAPHUCKEN NAME!!!!!
lol this is awesome
doritos509 1 year ago
try these chords over this, 5x555x, and when you change for dorian 5x455x
83CAB83 1 year ago
@83CAB83 i like ur chords
immortaltts 1 year ago
Just for fun I've put a Dorian backing track online for anyone to download and jam against. Just go and find my website and follow the links.
Enjoy!
Jambolecom 1 year ago
Information is correct in the video, Yes it is !! Key of G would be the ionian mode scale (major mode) so the second mode will be Dorian in A key (minor mode scale)
Best Regards
mariocouet
Portugal
mariocouet 1 year ago
@mariocouet hi tere!
the dorian mode it's the second degree of a major scale(ionian)so if you play a A dorian mode : A B C D E F# G you are in the key of G but you start the scale from the second degree (A)let's compare A dorian and key of A
A B C D E F# G (A dorian mode )
A B C# D E F# G#(key of A) so as yuo can see it's not in the key of A as it use the same notes of the key of G.this in a tonal contest,becouse i consider modes ant keys two different things.
all the best
mazzimus1 1 year ago
sorry man ! that's not in the key of A but it's the key of G ! to be correct it's: A dorian scale in the key of G.
mazzimus1 1 year ago
mariocouet 1 year ago
wow that was helpfull in learning scales but sounded horrible
340mile 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
read
Don't laugh at this! Just do it
Start thinking something you really really want cause this is
astounding the person that sent this to me said their wish came true 10
mins after they read the mail so I thought what the heck
You have just been visited by DrSuess's Cat in the Hat. He will grant
you
one wish
Make your wish when the count down is over
10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1MAKE A WISHSend this to 10 videos within the hour you read this.If you do, your wish will come true
prozpkz1 2 years ago
im a little curious but im a somewhat beginner (been playin for 5 months ok with chords and rhythm now) but i plan on playing classic rock southern rock and 80s metal style of guitar an im wonderin what other scales do i need to learn besides the pentatonic scale the blues scale and the major scale. and how long will it take me to learn them. also is there a name for a scale that involves finger tapping. mainly stuff like Eddie Van Halen?
codyjt5150 2 years ago
codyjt5150: Eddie himself uses pentatonics all the time. Just master a couple of his tapping licks and you'll be able to create your own. There really isn't any specific scale for tapping. You can use any scale you want. For 80's metal, I would reccomend exotic stuff like Harmonic Minor and Phyrigian Dominant. However, it usually all comes down to pentatonics, modified or in its boxed form. Hope this helps!
randyrhoads82rip 2 years ago 9
about scales i dont know very much but 4 tapping u need to transposicionate tha notes
ej: u have your pentatonic ad u will star to play it in the 12 fret E string ok? BUT all the notes u will be playing will be in tha same string then transpocionate it and vuala! you can play with that, hope it is usefull n:_:n
alexisXcore93 2 years ago
the major scale has all 5 main scales
cooleocooleocooleo 2 years ago
the reason its important to know the difference is that once you know how modes work, you realize that there are several different tonalities to be had with only one scale. This opens up the scale to much more versatility. Calling the Dorian mode a scale rather than a mode is like saying there is only one tonality per scale, which is of course very wrong. Guitar players especially should know how they work because guitar players use them so often.
FREEDRAULIS 2 years ago
the only person on here who knows what they are talking about is cobracarg. The "major scale" is technically different than the "Ionian mode." It seems strange because they have the same notes, but what makes them different is that "mode" refers to the tonal center (tonic) of what you're playing, and scale refers to a sequence or pattern that you play in.
FREEDRAULIS 2 years ago
wtf it doesn't matter in which scale or which note exists or not exists in what scale... you just play whatever you feel you want....
Mikenog 2 years ago 5
...Well said, i listened to Hendrix, he played what he felt, and didn't read music, it just works when you can feel it!
mkilner 2 years ago 6
well the point of music is that you feel the music and make whatever you want with it :). If you can't feel it and just do it from raw intellectual view it's kinda ... uhm, it feels that's been forced to do, or it's not as musical as with-feeling-it-played-music :D. With every day there's more music done from an intellectual view which really sucks. Well myself I'm not 100% emotional with music, i have my own patterns, calculations in my head, but I try to be musically free as much as i can.
Mikenog 2 years ago
We're all brainwashed to some point, it's almost impossible to escape from it, so we're confined when trying to invent something new in music. For every coming generation of kids the art-making is going to be harder I guess.
Mikenog 2 years ago 3
Hendrix was self taught be he still knew Pentatonic,Ionian and even used Phrygian on HeyBabyNewRisingSun, im self taught but I know 5 modes
PAULOcbi 2 years ago
True....but there's nothing wrong with doing both. It's all about how your brain is wired. MY buddy Nick has a hell of a time playing without written music, but when he DOES have music in front of him, he's incredible. I hardly ever read music, and so have a hard time when I do read music, but I'm amazing when I play by ear. Sheet music is simply a means of communicating ideas...what's on the page is merely a suggestion. What makes the music awesome comes from the player's heart.
johncraig1379 2 years ago
You are right! I started playing guitar athe age of 14. I didn' read, just by ear. In my late twentties I started to take guitar classes, just for the theory. Since then I kind of lost my hearing abilities. I rely now too much on the theory.
kazar77 2 years ago 9
This has been flagged as spam show
then you are a moron.
emixolydian 2 years ago
And you are an asshole!
kazar77 2 years ago 47
This has been flagged as spam show
id rather be an asshole than an idiot...
emixolydian 2 years ago
Ok, asshole it is. you win!
kazar77 2 years ago 11
to much tention here lentlemennnnnnnnnnnnnnn
salamango69 2 years ago
@kazar77
Well I HAVE one.
So do you,if you are as you say,human.
drooghound 11 months ago
It's all just part of the theory man. You can just drive a car for example. It just depends if you want to know how and why and what the car does, when it does it. Shit man.. I play more by feeling my self... but it does help to know a little theory.
KeepOurChildrenSafe 2 years ago
Everything is in reference to the major scale anyway, especially in the western worlds music theory system, its all octave based. This video is fine
swiftlessons 2 years ago
lol yeah, what's up with that... it's just major actually...
Mikenog 2 years ago
im sorry but you need to learn what the fuck your talking about before you post teaching vids online. All of you musically ignorant people out there listen up! DORIAN IS NOT A SCALE, its a MODE. there is a HUGE difference!
FREEDRAULIS 2 years ago 2
Nonsense.
The terms "mode" and "Scale" are interchangeable. A scale is just a series of related notes.
drooghound 2 years ago
thats nonsense... you dont know what you are talking about...you say that mode or scale are interchangeable and you'll get a big fat F in music school...
cobracarg 2 years ago
I AM a music teacher.
Modes can be scales it's all how you view them.
Is the Ionian a scale or a mode?
The Am dorian used from Gmajor is a mode, used on its own (in the key of Am) it can be viewed as a type of minor scale with a 6th.
Don't get too hung up on this shit, it gets in the way of playing music.
drooghound 2 years ago 102
you just proved my point... Am dorian is different from a G major position.... just because they both have the same notes doesnt mean that they are the same thing.... let me give you an example...
The Am pentatonic scale has exactly the same notes has a C major pentatonic....but they are not the same scale...
the point i am trying to get across is that just because Am dorian has the same notes as a G major scale ... it doesnt mean they are interchangable
cobracarg 2 years ago
Of course they are.
drooghound 2 years ago
no they are not... going the pentatonic example.... you you try to emphasize the G note if you are playing over the key of A...its going to sound like shit... so they are different
cobracarg 2 years ago
theres exceptions to the rule.
having the same notes is prettymuch the same thing, Try useing the same notes of the
star spangel Banner in different position
& tell people you "wrote an Original" song
it aint gonna Fly.
MetalHeart8787 2 years ago
@drooghound I guess as long as you play the RIGHT notes it's all that matters, Am I right?
boxingin 1 year ago
@drooghound well u sound like a good one. i thought myself guitar and i just make my own damned scales and it works way better then planning everything out. saves up a lot of study time too. since i never had a teacher. (i am a singer in a choire though. and thought myself various singing techniques. so that helps with harmony understanding)
dodo4hire 1 year ago
@drooghound wtf does any of that mean????
joey1364 1 year ago
@drooghound All you need i s a few tricks scales and alot of diffrent influences and you can play. Whether someone plays good or bad is a diffrent story.But yeah i agree you don't need to learn that many scales to be good like marty friedman says, you can find the shapes that suit your liking.
MetallicAciDD 1 year ago 3
@drooghound I don't look at modes in terms of scales, I look at modes in terms of keys.
wimpy77 1 year ago
@drooghound i just play period i know the name of my strings that about it was playn over 8 hrs a day but not no more
crashdummy40 1 year ago
@drooghound That's exactly how I view the Ionian versus the Dorian versus the Phrygian versus the Lydian scale shapes etc.
Treat them as scales and you can finally see how to play them over certain chords.
If you're just getting into this whole modal thing like I am, what's helping me out is All Guitar Chords, google the site, its friggin awesome, its got scales chords and everything you need.
Anyway, forgive the plug but I'm actually understanding this shit now by treating them as scales.
AirHendrix91 1 year ago
@drooghound Thank you for posting some good info and some even better bottomline advice
randomdog009 11 months ago
@drooghound Well put. I am a guitar teacher as well and I couldn't agree with you more. People come to me thinking that if they don't understand everything about the modes, they will not be able to play lead guitar. I like theory a lot and I teach it every day but I always tell my students that too much theory and not enough feel will make them robots. Great comment. Thanks.
MrRockmeister1 11 months ago
@drooghound Finally one person say that.
SuperCannibalistic 11 months ago
@drooghound
that is incorrect.. each mode has its own tonal qualities which need to be spelled out whilst improvising to make it sound like the particular mode.so even if ur vamping over Am. u can flavour or build your solo based on qualities of the mode.. you could play A phrygian over it or A Dorian etc.. so if your learning modes you actually wanna learn the key sounds of what each mode sounds like..if u dont get hung up on learning these sounds your gonna sound as bad as every other dick
shagg21 11 months ago
@shagg21
Nothing you say condradicts anything I said.
I did not say that modes did not have their own character, but most songs (even the most meathead metal song) have chord changes, if you don't understand how chords work you can never really suss modes out.
drooghound 11 months ago
@drooghound
shagg21 11 months ago
@drooghound Youtube -
They Sold Their Souls For Rock And Roll
TrashCanDinner 10 months ago
hell no. a scale is defined by the steps or halfsteps, a mode is not defined that way.
mrm1291 2 years ago
all modes are scales.
emixolydian 2 years ago
I teach music for a living, Dorian is a mode of the major scale, but a scale none the less. So everyone is half right; scale and mode are not interchangeable and the fact that dorian is a mode of another scale does not take away the fact that its a scale (its a variant of the major scale)
swiftlessons 2 years ago
boring
lorenaolivas 2 years ago
You're a dumbass! Dorian has more notes and you're not playing the frickin patern right!
JeevesMorris1 2 years ago
So now that i know how to play this shape of the dorian scale how am i suppost to move around the neckboard with this scale?
juicyj56 2 years ago
what ever key your in you play that shape in that key. So this guys is playing it in A as he says but lets say if you want to play it in B, then all your do is move this shape 2 fretts up which is where the B is. hope that helped.
sk8r4life911 2 years ago
yea it did thanks, but lets say your playing in key of A dorian scale and your getting tired of playing in that same position, how do you move around the fretboard? are there different shapes or can you only play that position aswell as an octave up?
juicyj56 2 years ago
yes you can play it an octave up and you can find the exact same notes somwhere else on the freettboard, but it wont necessarily be the same shape. same notes but not the smae shape. So instead of starting on the 5th fret for an A dorian scale. You can also use the open A string. same goes for B, G and every other note. If you have a C # and you are on the low E string then you can play the same scale on the 4TH frett A string (which is a C#)
hope tht hepled too im very bad at explaingin things
sk8r4life911 2 years ago
The first thing you need to do is learn where the notes are on the fret board.
musicfromhell 2 years ago
one way to look at it is this. For the ionian (major)scale, there are 7 basic shapes (one starting on each note) as you move up the neck. The Dorian scale is simply the second shape. So in D Dorian - its C major but D to D, not C to C. So this means to get the subsequent shapes in dorian, all you do is use the next one along. So the second position in dorian would be the 3rd position in ionian/major. You just have to remember which note you areusing as the root.
AlmostOriginal691 2 years ago
learn it in different positions.
emixolydian 2 years ago
E dorian is D major modes are just rotations of the major scale. E is the second scale degree of d major. Dorian starts on the second scale degree of a major scale .
melfice545 2 years ago
in all honesty ur all wrong, if you would play that dorian mode in A ur just playing a major scale off a 4th instead of the normal route. for example E dorian mode IS A major. but its fun to play it with the petatonic scale of its 4th
pmasta333 2 years ago
E dorian is D major not A major
professorlamp 2 years ago 2
woops your right its a 4th above the root so it would be D, ive used it with A major scales before though but that would make sense too i guess cause A and D sound really good together
pmasta333 2 years ago
Actually it's the second
ConstantineGuitar 2 years ago
yes, its the A dorian scale in the parent key of G. notes are:
ABCDEF#GA
i can see how some people would be confused by the title "dorian scale (key of A)
AhYaOk 2 years ago
IDIOT!!! its A lmfao... ppl like that are stupid!!!! (mesaboogiepower)
shoonger001 2 years ago
its A dorian, but it shares the same notes as G major. its the same thing as playing G maj but starting on the 2nd scale degree (A)
drumer559 2 years ago
that is too A his root is the 5th fret which=A
NCbeezy 2 years ago
yeah, keep your fingers in shape!
keep them warm, stretch them!
snetpux 2 years ago
A dorian is in the key of G pal....;)
mesaboogiepower 2 years ago 3
very nice lesson :) thanks!
Carsons12 2 years ago
Ur working out of g not a with that dorian
Spartan10391 2 years ago
baaaah .. "looks real baad..." Give some construcive criticism, when you can´t do this.. the guitar player cant do anything with such a damn comment....
MrMcStrato 2 years ago
ur left hand techneque looks real bad
crypticskunk666 2 years ago
it looks like that cuz he wants you to see what note he is hitting....dumb ass your moms ciriusus on her ass looks alot worse trust me
totaljerk69 2 years ago
umm, totaljerk, yeah i take it u play also, just a guess, u suck aswel, and yea, and yea thats a funny time to say sumthing bout my mum u cyberpussy, bu im not gonna shit on ur level, just knowing that ud never actually say that to my face u coward makes me laugh enough faggot
crypticskunk666 2 years ago
this position is shit, it doesnt even flow properly with your fingers, if u wanna teach the foundation of these scales, do it properly
flipsy87 2 years ago
How about you post a better one. I'm sure you could, you did a good job with your one video. Just don't criticize until you've got something to show him up.
josiahgust 2 years ago 2
i dont need to post some video on youtube to prove my point, if u tried the pattern i actually teach in a music school you'd probably agree that it works better for a beginner...
flipsy87 2 years ago
dorian is like in a minor mode, like its contains alot of flats and or something like that, cause this is the one thing that confuses me about scales
shadowhacker190 2 years ago
the only thing that makes a scale minor is if the 3rd note in the scale is a half step flatter than it would be in the major scale.
mikeyFear0n 2 years ago
alright thank you
shadowhacker190 2 years ago
As far as the natural minor scale goes, you need both a flat third AND a flat seven.
musicfromhell 2 years ago 2
And a flat six.
musicfromhell 2 years ago
"This is the dorian scale ,,, this is a minor scale..." wtf? So is it dorian or minor (aeolinan)? Dude, get you music theory straight!!!
0xym0r0nized 2 years ago
Dorian is a MINOR SCALE With MAJOR 6...
mateusschaffer 2 years ago
if you don't know, there are major and minor modes, and the dorian scale is a minor mode, and this works with any Xm7 chord...
chechoguitar112 2 years ago
He means that you use the scale in a minor chord progression although dorian works in both. Like mixolydian and lydian are major scales and phrygian is minor. This scale is minor because he's mixing it with the minor pentatonic scale and it thus works over an a minor chord progression.
benno369 2 years ago
you dumbass haha dorian IS a MINOR scale
AutoNoiseReduction 2 years ago
He means the 3rd note in the dorian mode is a flat 3rd, so its minor in tonality.
mikeyFear0n 2 years ago
Comment removed
shadowhacker190 2 years ago
this guy sounds like Ren from Ren and Stimpy
Abarnes204 2 years ago 2
key of what?
a major? or a minor?
it is not in the key of a..it is in key of g major.that's why it is called dorian mode..
and from the pentatonic scale,just add a b5 to become a blue scale..
hey man you better study music theory..
15yngwie15 2 years ago
I think he means the A dorian scale; not the parent key of A. You're right though. A Dorian's parent key is G.
AhYaOk 2 years ago
He did make a simple mistake, but he did say i what key it was in because an a minor scale is in the key of a minor. Scale and key mean the same thing. He does need to study a bit though.
Keltani 2 years ago
nice lession thx ...
KurdishRockstar1 2 years ago
It's in the mode of A dorian but the Key signature is G major.
bcbenp44 2 years ago
people people....come now. aruging over the internet is kinda like being in the special olympics,even if you win your still a fucking retard.
methviper 2 years ago 7
diiiiiiiick lol
KenKen540 2 years ago
hahahaha thats fucked up dude hahaha
IMSOSIC 2 years ago
cool you watched "the 12 fuck you's of youtube" and quoted forfun808
you're cool now
supernub93 2 years ago
look whos a fucking retard
methviper 2 years ago
and to answer your question supernub93.....yes your parents will still be brother and sister when they get devorcied
methviper 2 years ago
to funny, i will use this quote from now on on dumb ass blogs and what not
Strive02 2 years ago
Key of Amin is nothing but C....so D dorian, I thinks people are confused with Amaj where the Dorian would be B dorian
vyrocks1 2 years ago
well dorian in the key of A minor starts on D Right?the dorian would be the c major scale starting at the second note in C major being D.you started on A.and C majors relative minor key is A minor
lucas72593 2 years ago
Wow...
I was halfway through the video when DeepSea - Whatever his name is - put his comment up. I swear, you're so arrogant. I've never seen anybody as stupid as you. It actually humors me to read someone say they're "Cool" when they can't even put together a complete sentence. Good luck in life.
P.S. Video helped alot. =)
TheGr33nDay 2 years ago