In fact, Lotus is not closed, simply archaic. Those that put down these folks simply don't understand the context. This came in the middle of a discussion about ActiveSync and other syncing protocols. In those terms, Lotus couldn't get much more closed and useless in the modern world of mobile devices.
Sounds like political talk shows: everyone's an expert know-it-all that reduces complex things down to insults when they don't agree (or don't understand)...
As a developer, I know that Lotus Notes is far from "closed" - it's more like a Swiss Army knife - it can be tied into just about any system or technology. Personally, I've integrated Lotus Notes/Domino apps with other databases, used all the standard web technologies, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, RSS, XML, Java, and too many to list
For whatever reason, all of the high end tech journalists and entrepreneurs (Leo Laporte, Jason Calicanis, Kevin Rose, Andy Inathko, David Pogue, Walt Mossberg) have all, at one time or another, criticized Lotus Notes as being a thing of the past.
I use Apple Mail on my iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro and iMac and have never had such a responsive, elegant, and simple email experience.
From less of a consumer standpoint and more of a business standpoint, a lot of professionals in the entertainment industry I have known use Microsoft Entourage made for Macs.
I use Lotus Notes at work and Outlook at home, and if I could use Notes at home I would, it's much easier to use, and the syncing is a positive thing (although not necessary if you want to work off the server) because it allows you to not be a slave to your e-mail - you sync your e-mail when you are ready to get e-mail updates. And I started using Lotus Notes years after I started using Outlook. And you can use Notes on the iPhone, using the server.
The point Leo, Jeff, and Gina were trying to make is that Lotus Notes is very outdated when compared to the services available today. I am not an expert on it, so can't speak on it, and am simply more gleeful that I was able to achieve synergy with two of my favorite radio personalities (Laporte and Howard Stern). Jarvis appeared on The Stern Show about this last week.
@jamesis2 - Today, not a whole lot. A lot of people had bad experiences with it back in the 90's and for some reason think IBM hasn't updated the product in 10 years.
These guys are arrogant dorks. Just because someone is not an Micro$oft fan boy, does not make the tech that they are using wrong. Lotus is a fantastic system for many businesses. Mobile users are not always in a location that will have fast broadband connections (i.e working in mining, forestry, etc). The ability to have applications replicated to your laptop to use while "disconnected" is for many companies, mission critical. IBM continue to improve/grow and expand Lotus. Long live Lotus
Actually quite funny to watch these guys talk about Lotus Notes as if they know what they're saying. People who think Notes is outdated haven't seen it in five or more years and are ridiculously uninformed. It works with every major phone client including iPhone and has a great web interface for mail and web applications. The full client for the desktop integrates with IM, tons of other applications and websites. Just because it's been around 20 years doesn't mean it's a dinosaur, it's evolved.
Howard Stern is a dinosaur. He had his glory days back in the 80's and 90's, but his hackneyed schtick needs to be retired along with Lotus Notes. So in that way, I guess, they're a perfect match.
Go to my main youtube page for a link to Sterns response to Jarvis a few later on The Howard Stern Show. Its the video I uploaded right after this one.
I am a daily listener of Howard and ever time he talks about Lotus Notes is makes me think they are so behind in technology. But they still put on the best show in the world. Baba Booey !!!
So true, it is funny that Lotus Notes was the dealbreaker even though Ralph kept showing him over and over again how great the iphone was. It's even better that it's Leo and Jeff saying this since they are both fans of Howard and Jeff's known Howard personally for years. He still calls the show now.
i am technologically illiterate
ragingbull888 8 months ago
In fact, Lotus is not closed, simply archaic. Those that put down these folks simply don't understand the context. This came in the middle of a discussion about ActiveSync and other syncing protocols. In those terms, Lotus couldn't get much more closed and useless in the modern world of mobile devices.
NathanBLawrence 1 year ago
Sounds like political talk shows: everyone's an expert know-it-all that reduces complex things down to insults when they don't agree (or don't understand)...
As a developer, I know that Lotus Notes is far from "closed" - it's more like a Swiss Army knife - it can be tied into just about any system or technology. Personally, I've integrated Lotus Notes/Domino apps with other databases, used all the standard web technologies, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, RSS, XML, Java, and too many to list
dmottolo 1 year ago
Guess who still uses lotus notes?
General Motors
jrs89 1 year ago
For whatever reason, all of the high end tech journalists and entrepreneurs (Leo Laporte, Jason Calicanis, Kevin Rose, Andy Inathko, David Pogue, Walt Mossberg) have all, at one time or another, criticized Lotus Notes as being a thing of the past.
dipperski 1 year ago 4
I use Apple Mail on my iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro and iMac and have never had such a responsive, elegant, and simple email experience.
From less of a consumer standpoint and more of a business standpoint, a lot of professionals in the entertainment industry I have known use Microsoft Entourage made for Macs.
dipperski 1 year ago 2
I use Lotus Notes at work and Outlook at home, and if I could use Notes at home I would, it's much easier to use, and the syncing is a positive thing (although not necessary if you want to work off the server) because it allows you to not be a slave to your e-mail - you sync your e-mail when you are ready to get e-mail updates. And I started using Lotus Notes years after I started using Outlook. And you can use Notes on the iPhone, using the server.
BMG4ME 1 year ago
The point Leo, Jeff, and Gina were trying to make is that Lotus Notes is very outdated when compared to the services available today. I am not an expert on it, so can't speak on it, and am simply more gleeful that I was able to achieve synergy with two of my favorite radio personalities (Laporte and Howard Stern). Jarvis appeared on The Stern Show about this last week.
dipperski 1 year ago
Ted Kennedy used Lotus Notes, Siemens, McCormick Foods, Burger King, the list goes on and on.
dstrawsb 1 year ago
Fools! You have no idea.
dstrawsb 1 year ago
What exactly is wrong with Lotus Notes?
jamesis2 1 year ago
@jamesis2 - Today, not a whole lot. A lot of people had bad experiences with it back in the 90's and for some reason think IBM hasn't updated the product in 10 years.
karendbrooks 1 year ago
These guys are arrogant dorks. Just because someone is not an Micro$oft fan boy, does not make the tech that they are using wrong. Lotus is a fantastic system for many businesses. Mobile users are not always in a location that will have fast broadband connections (i.e working in mining, forestry, etc). The ability to have applications replicated to your laptop to use while "disconnected" is for many companies, mission critical. IBM continue to improve/grow and expand Lotus. Long live Lotus
bdhnz 1 year ago 2
@bdhnz written from windows 3.0
get over it - it is a crap old product.
conorucd 1 year ago
Actually quite funny to watch these guys talk about Lotus Notes as if they know what they're saying. People who think Notes is outdated haven't seen it in five or more years and are ridiculously uninformed. It works with every major phone client including iPhone and has a great web interface for mail and web applications. The full client for the desktop integrates with IM, tons of other applications and websites. Just because it's been around 20 years doesn't mean it's a dinosaur, it's evolved.
rnovak4271 1 year ago 2
Howard Stern is a dinosaur. He had his glory days back in the 80's and 90's, but his hackneyed schtick needs to be retired along with Lotus Notes. So in that way, I guess, they're a perfect match.
myopiczeal 1 year ago
Go to my main youtube page for a link to Sterns response to Jarvis a few later on The Howard Stern Show. Its the video I uploaded right after this one.
dipperski 1 year ago
Howie is a dinosaur and this clip shows it.
Calimegali 1 year ago
hilarious.. Howard talks about Lotus Notes like it's the best thing ever
MegaCharleyhorse 1 year ago
@MegaCharleyhorse That's because it is
BMG4ME 1 year ago
I am a daily listener of Howard and ever time he talks about Lotus Notes is makes me think they are so behind in technology. But they still put on the best show in the world. Baba Booey !!!
gmeola 1 year ago
So true, it is funny that Lotus Notes was the dealbreaker even though Ralph kept showing him over and over again how great the iphone was. It's even better that it's Leo and Jeff saying this since they are both fans of Howard and Jeff's known Howard personally for years. He still calls the show now.
qwiksand 1 year ago
I know right !? It frustrated me how such a thing was a deal breaker when he was talking about what phone to get for awhile on the air.
dipperski 1 year ago
That's funny that someone *finally* called Stern on the use of Lotus Notes. He's been a loyal customer, that's for sure.
huntingseasonson 1 year ago