A Patriot discusses Southland Christian Church helping illegals

[interlude44]

Why cant we stop the racism>? :(

[interlude44]

My parents gave up alot for me and my sis to attend school here . to get a future to get a well paying job. were not criminals. were not. we just wanna help in anyway with jobs. i thank GOD for giving me a job. it may not be alot but its a job and both our parents r proud of wat were doing. the accusement is not gonna make us stop doin wat we wanna do in supporting each other. Im a chrisitan and i apoligize for being hot headed i do. IM SORRY. but it just makes me very sad that people now days

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44, I'm not sure what your problem is. It seems like you're saying your parents are illegal aliens, but they are not criminals. Okay, ask them if they came into the country legally? Ask them if they got their jobs by telling their employer the truth about who they are. Ask them if they always tell the truth on their job forms. Ask them if they have paid for anyone else to come into the country illegally. Ask them if they've purchased a false id card to get a job.

[interlude44]

@Dmr2701 no my parents r not illegal. they have there papers and green cared. they have a good paying job. they came here respectivly.and they dont pay for anyone else to come here illegally.

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 Ask your parents if they know it's illegal to work in this country without proper authorization coming from a foreign country? Ask them if they have a legitimate drivers license, received by passing the tests, presenting their proper ids and so on. Ask them if they have insurance on their cars? Ask them if they pay taxes and how they do it if they are not here illegally.

[interlude44]

@Dmr2701 Dude everything u say they have already they have everything

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 My parents gave up a lot and worked hard to have a family and make a living. My Dad and brother and myself were all in the military. I put myself, with God's help, through college. I have my own business which is now only part time because of all the illegal alien workers in my field of work. The playing field is no longer level and I and my wife are suffering for it, yet you want me to feel sorry for some of the very people who helped bring this about in my country?

[interlude44]

@Dmr2701 what i read i understand. and ur right, its very hard accepting it. i no theres some illegal aliens that doesnt deserve the right to be here. some r really bad criminals yes. and i have no easy way of saying anything to this statement but u and i no that God has a plan for everyone. ur parents. brother, urself. i really dont depend much on the system. becuz hey look around u, their taking the name of GOD bit by bit. with all the debating . ECONOMY. ILLEGALS. WAR. POVERTY.

[interlude44]

@interlude44 I trust in the one who is higher than all of these man

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 You think you are special because your parents gave up a lot for their family? Did they give up their integrity, also? That is too much to give. It's called selling your soul for money and things and family. This is a price many are not willing to pay. One need not become a criminal to supply for their family, even in Mexico or Honduras or Guatemala.

[interlude44]

@Dmr2701 Were all special in one way or another.

[interlude44]

Im not ghetto i dont go around waving flags saying this is my country . i respect AMERICA . AMERICA taught me alot of things i never knew i could do. God put me on this country to grow as a musician not only in talent but as a leader to the kids out there who r lost with drugs drinking killing themselves. is AMERICA gonna stop me from achieving my dream? My dream for my future is too get a well paying job support my family who BY GOD. they r amazing hard working people.

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 Your dream, need not be fulfilled by illegal means. If you are illegal and of age, go to your homeland. Do the paperwork and pay what is needed to come into the country the right way, if you are allowed. If you follow your parents and their illegal ways, you can never rightly call yourself a Christian, as you will be in rebellion to God's way (Rom 13 and IIPeter 2:13-17). Neither will you be able to call yourself an American.

[interlude44]

i work with alot of hispanics. we work hard. i learn my english i attend skool i try to do the best in learn anything i can from my boss. now if i get acccused of being hispanic even if im legal here, wat does that say to the people acussing us, me? doesnt the heart stop and tells u hey were suppose to love each other no matter wat. AMERICANS r better than this. AMERICANS dont go off tell people hey u dont belong here get out of her. as a matter of fact THE CONSTITUTIONAL isnt being follwed here

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 I dare say you have no idea of what the Constitution says or the federal laws supported by it. Your mind is clouded by your friendships and personal attachments. Ever wonder why Lady Justice is wearing a blindfold? Neither is hard work a sign of "righteous living." The mafia folks work real hard. Many criminals work hard at their day jobs. There are millions of unemployed Americans who used to work hard, but were laid off because their employers found cheaper illegal aliens..

[interlude44]

@Dmr2701 Ok but not all of the aliens has the same status. Many just wanna live an American life. watever it takes to become citizen.

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 If they want to do whatever it takes, they cannot start out wrong. There are a million legal immigrants per year that start out right from all over the world. They do all the paperwork, pay all the fees, follow all the rules. If you don't start right, just as in college, you will not be allowed to enter. You must earn a diploma, be a good student, not just average, and pay your way.

[interlude44]

this is dumb u guys r rascist . wat do u say about the kids who wants to study but they cant cuz thier illegal? its this country thats the illegal one. im not mexican btw. but im no criminal. theres a bunch of fake christians. no matter wat u gotta love ur nieghbor no matter if thier illegal or not. it doesnt make sense. jobs r hard to find peroid but its not becuz of us. its becuz of the people in office. they have no idea wat to do

[Doomarious]

@interlude44, tell me how the U.S. is the "illegal one?" I don't care if you are Mexican or not, if you are illegally in the country, you should leave. You include yourself with illegal aliens, so you are obviously one of them. If you are not, then tell us and tell us all why you think Americans should pay for foreigner's schooling when they've entered illegally into the country and are working illegally?

[interlude44]

@Doomarious well for one thing the people arent the real americans history for tells us its the natives that r yje real ones. and to fight for the right to go to skool and study doesnt make u illegal. its called having heart. thats y its called the justice system not everyone who is illegal r criminals duuhhh. but its not fair that kids have to pay the price in being accused if runing this county wen all they wanna do is study, common sense friends

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44, you really need an education yourself, it appears by your writing. However, children many times pay for the crimes of the parents in other ways, that is, they are forced to suffer in a home with criminal parents and lose many benefits because of the wrong choices of their parents. The fault is in the parents. But Americans should not be saddled with the cost of supporting illegal aliens children, along with their parents. To reward the parents is theft from good Americans.

[interlude44]

@Dmr2701 Dude i go to skool ok. i earned my diploma. all i wanna do is study. as u can see im not talking ghetto im writing in english. so wat if i dont type correctly. least i can type in english and you can understand it.

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 Do you want a medal? Many people want to go to school. So what's the problem? Earn your tuition and go.

[interlude44]

@Dmr2701 How? if the skools today r demandin the kids to become citizens. if not they get kicked out.

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 Schools do not demand you to become a citizen. That is false. But you should become a legal immigrant. Your parents have done you much harm in this regard, by coming illegally into this country. All your school problems stem from what they did and still do. You must one day ask yourself and them the truth and stop living a lie as they do. Stop blaming others for what they have done to you. Once you get over that and can forgive them, perhaps you will consider the right and only way.

[Dmr2701]

@interlude To be a true Christian, one must take up the cross, willing to suffer for doing what is right or preaching the gospel. Are you willing or do you just want the easy way out for you, but impossible for our nation: forcing an entire nation to bend to your will?

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 College is not for everyone. You will need a remedial English course to even hope to survive the first year. You must be able to write correctly and clearly with proper punctuation, spelling, and so on. Otherwise...

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 Rewarding bad behavior is the last thing to do. Do you not agree that you should not give gifts to those who violate the law and have no remorse for doing it? No need to fight to go to school in your own country, so let them return home. If you want to help them, go to their country and do so, but don't saddle others with your so called charity.

[interlude44]

@Dmr2701 i agree that we are to respect and follow the Law yes. but do u no why most of us kids come to AMERICA?? Do u know how bad the majority of the hispanic countrys are. THEY KILL PEOPLE THERE JUST BECAUSE THEY WANNA STUDY. Land of the Free Home Of The Brave,

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 There are many countries far worse off than Hispanic countries. Multiple millions are even more poor and less educated, but they can't come here and most would not even try to do it illegally, like your parents, if they are indeed illegal as it sounds.

[interlude44]

@Dmr2701 My parents are legal. i have loads of friends that stuggle though.im not saying this on behalf of me. im saying this on behlaf of the ones that i care about that r good american people

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 Regardless of the reasons, it does not make it right to break our laws. Neither are you or they doing any good for your country by fleeing from it. Why not try to change it for the better. First, one must allow God to change them, repenting of their wicked attitudes and behavior and seeking to be born again in truth. If all you desire is for yourself, is not your motivation corrupt and evil? Did you ever think that the reason your countries are in trouble is because of sin?

[Dmr2701]

@interlude44 America is in deep trouble and you do not even seem to realize it. You are not part of the solution, but the problem. You are selfishly motivated and not for what is best for this country or even for you or your family or your home country. You will fall with this country if not your own.

[interlude44]

@Dmr2701 let me ask u this.. what do u want this country to do then?

[WorshipBassist]

People hate Southland so much. Unite with love and God or cause further disunity of the church.

[Doomarious]

@WorshipBassist The true church of Jesus Christ is not involved in promoting and encouraging illegal activity. This church is not being persecuted for righteousness, but being exposed for their involvement in unrighteous activity. At an earlier time in our history, the pastors would be jailed for un-american activity. Even now they are violating the federal law, but our Criminal-in-chief is doing the same on a wholesale scale, so it won't be stopped during this administration.

[Doomarious]

At Southland, they had the same slogan, AMMproductions, "love God, love people." But if our "love" is not agape love, it is fleshly love, generated by our sinful natures. Do you believe all men are basically corrupt and lost in sin, AMM? Are we free to disobey God's word because we feel we are "loving?" Jesus told us clearly, "If you love me, keep my commandments."

[Doomarious]

Illegal aliens know they are violating the laws of the Unites States. Do you? What other laws are we free to violate, AMMprod? Are we free to buy new ids if we don't like what we have? Are we free to lie to our employers and to the govt. so we don't have to pay taxes? Are we free to take schooling, medical care, and welfare, even if the laws says we are not eligible? Are we free to aid and abet any criminal because Jesus tells us to love one another? 

[pl855p]

@Doomarious that was a propaganda campaign against the church, they did not give anything to illegal aliens, they only helped renew existing passports and green cards.

[Doomarious]

@pl855p There was no "campaign" against Southland, only a rebuke to their helping known illegal aliens by giving their property to the Mexican Consulate for a day to do their official business. That business included giving Matricula Consular cards to a great number of Mexicans illegally in the country. Of this there is no doubt. Charles Knox, the leader of this activity, acknowledged that hundreds had received this documentation in past years. These cards are only used by illegal aliens.

[Doomarious]

@pl855p by the way, I saw Hispanics driving out with truckloads of furniture the same day the Consulate was there during this last year. This was all free. Open your eyes.

[AMMproductions]

As a christian I believe that we should help all man no matter their citizenship. Just remember that we are all Gods Children!

-Love God, Love People

[Doomarious]

@AMMproductions

A Christian is not one who only hears, but "he who hears the word of God and keeps it." Both Peter and Paul teach against rebellion to societies laws. Romans 13 clearly states Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. Romans 13:1-2 (KJV)

[GuerillaReporter]

From FBI Testimony before Congress...

"The Department of Justice and the FBI have concluded that the Matricula Consular is not a reliable form of identification, due to the non-existence of any means of verifying the true identity of the card holder."

[GuerillaReporter]

Jesus would remove the money changers from the Temple, straight away!

[GuerillaReporter]

People amaze me. Whenever someone on the left is confronted by truth, facts, or someone who disagrees with them, it is "hate". How simple minded. Give me a break. A huge majority of Americans are against the policies of the obamessiah who has usurped the White House, and they are called "racist" by small minded lefties. How ridiculous! Get off the dope goru426. Go to Mexico without ID and see what they have to say about it. Why is America not allowed to do what all other nations do?

[Tremleypt]

The Mexican Consulate was also in N.C. two weeks ago were they were met and protested on by NCFIRE, And the Mexican Consulate will be in S.C. doing the same thing in a few weeks

[goru426]

Jesus was also a stranger!

Legalize all the hard working immigrants. Stop the hate!

[Tremleypt]

@goru426

What would Jesus do?

He would not creep into another country illegall ,uninvited and, lie, steal, cheat and commit crimes upon his U.S. citizen brothers and sisters "for a better life" b/c that would be doing it "unto the least of these my brethren.

Jesus would not buy a U.S. citizen's stolen SS number, fraudulent driver license and a fraudulent green card and falsely fill out an Employment Eligibility Verification I-9 Form and sign it under written oath!

[MrTarawa1943]

@goru426 Legalize what? Legalized and enforced attrition of returning all illegal aliens from the bondage of deception and perversion to their host country! That is the only answer, that is not hate, it is following the Bible, KJBible! ALSO

The TRUE Doctrine of the Bible, HEBREW AND ENGLISH KJBible! JESUS ministered/preached to the HEBREWS! He was amongst HIS people, HE was not stranger. HE was rejected for preaching the truth!