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  • First class was the best X-men movie so far in nearly every way, a few flaws aside.

  • i liked first class. it kind of links up to x-1 and 2 or losely anyway.

  • Matthew, what did you think of Origins: Wolverine?

  • Rose Byrne made this movie.

  • @PubliusAfricanus She was shitty in it....

  • @SalivaX13

    As shitty as the actual movie was, I'm surprised you could tell.

  • @PubliusAfricanus Shitty or not, James McAvoy & Michael Fassbender gave out great performances. As a lead her shittiness was noticeable. Why you could even begin to think she made this movie is a confounding mystery to me...

  • @SalivaX13

    I could say the same about your little crush Fassbender. Terrible actor, yet everyone seems to think he's the second coming.

    At least, if nothing else, I can fap to Rose Byrne.

  • Xavier is an American who was educated at Oxford.

  • Wtf ?? You´re saying that was BORING watching First Class ?? And what is wrong with the story ?? There is nothing strange in "coming from from one place to another", at least in the context of the film!

    One more thing: Sebastian wasnt really nazi (if you REALLY paid atenttion to the movie).He was supposing to be a german doctor just to recruit mutants around the world,so that he could make his army against the humans.There is nothing confusing in that.Dear Confused Matthew. : /

  • The reason people shouldn't judge other superhero movies in comparison to Batman is because it is NOT a fair way to judge a movie. You have to judge each one on its own merits and NOT based on how it compares to another film of that category. After all, not every horror movie can be The Exorcist, not every action movie can be Die Hard, not every fantasy movie can be Lord of the Rings, and not every superhero movie can be Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.

  • @thejoker100ify

    I agree. They should be BETTER considering how awful TDK is.

  • Well CM you said in your terminator salvations review a while back with stand in stan that you wanted a ok movie ,cause you were tired of reviewing either great or shotgun movies, here you go

  • i thought the external plot was pretty good.. if u look at the timeline the story was build in. Also it was obvious that the movie needed a reason for the xmen to come together.. and what better then the main issues from that time.... which was amerca vs russia basicly.. with the atomboms and nuclearwar shit etc but for me the build up was good, chemistry between xavier and magneto was awesome. and i agree that some characters was a bit... useless etc. final act was great! and badguy was super

  • i don't know why people are pounding the hell out of this movie, it's sooo much better than the last two and they did a good job at building up the story. it's not mindless at all, it's bettter written and cared for than what we've been getting after that "Green Lantern". They developed all the charatacters, and when they did, they gave us a well executed final act, i dont know what the hell you people wanted. thats the problem with the general audience, they keep complaining, and complaining

  • Boring?

    ............................

  • You need to replace Replacement Ryan. He adds nothing insightful to the review, just "this movie needs more cameltoe."

  • James Mcvoy Is scottish 

  • i dont know if they'll have a sequel to this; i imagine so. but there is going to be a sequel to x men origins: wolverine called The Wolverine.

  • I liked the movie but apparently people find something to complain in everything.

    Well, on the other hand no one forces me to think the same way as these two gentlemen.

  • Matthew should be on Spill.

  • @Joekitty001 God, no.

  • This movie was pretty mediocre. I don't understand the hype. The writing was atrocious.

  • Well I'd love you to do a X-men 3 review as imo that pissed me off with one big thing like 'hey lets through as many comic book characters on screen and make a movie out of it' Oh and 'lets twist 2 plots that are huge and ask lots of interesting questions and put it into a 1 and half hour film'

    I hate that film as it means there cant be any sequals there can be only prequals now ie x-origins and x-first class.

    So really there screwd themselves over as much as us.

  • You should totally work with Spil for an episode! C'mon, would be awesome! :D

  • It's somehow both refreshing and annoying how little you know about comics, Matthew.

    Beyond that, man give me a break, the pacing might not have been perfect but there was NOTHING difficult to keep track of in this movie, especially the handful of locations they threw at us.

    Marvel has hit two home runs so far this summer with Thor and XMen FC, let's see if they can get #3 with Captain America.

  • I'll wait for DVD. I was not all that excited for it because it didn't really look like much was new about it.

  • I loved the bromance of this movie but the rushed production shows through in many respects.

  • ok? it was amazing!!!!!

  • I really liked the movie. The dialogue was spotty and I wish there was a better story, but overall, I enjoyed it. This is a direct address to Michael Fassbender (who played Magneto/Eric who I thought was great in the film): for the love of God, pick an accent and stick with it. First it's German, then English, and then IRISH?!?! Sometimes he switches accents in the same scene! I was waiting for him to switch to Jamaican at some point.

  • @Liberator130 michael fassbender is from ireland!! he wasnt putting on an irish accent HE IS IRISH!!!

  • @corkman666 I think he might be IRISH do you think he's IRISH??

  • @kranktank

    Fassbender's German :) I did find it funny how his accent changed to Irish though as well haha :P

    I think Fassbender's mother is Irish though? :)

  • @TheDarkFrontier idc if he's martian the man is dead sexy

  • @TheDarkFrontier his fathers german his mother irish he moved to co.kerry when he was 2 years old so hes irish XD

  • @corkman666

    Oh wow! I didn't know he moved to Ireland :-)

    Kinda like Anton Yelchin then I guess, Russian born but moved to the States when he was 2.

  • I loved this film myself, I don't know anything about X Men, and I got really drawn in to the universe, the characters (bar for the villians) etc regardless. This and Thor really surprised me, and I loved them both.

  • The pacing in the first half was awful, they were jumping from place to place way too much. I did like the way they got all the kids together, in fact that was done much better than it was in the first film. Otherwise the second half is just typical superhero action stuff that we've seen a million times. The ending with Magneto turning bad would've been better if we didn't already know that, that is where he ends up. Overall there is nothing here that we've not seen before. 2/5

    But I liked X2!

  • @buc555 Changing locations is not an objective flaw in a story. In the respect to the events, they were pretty linear and progressed logically, as they involved a multi-continent man-hunt for war criminals by a vigilante victim of their actions. I'm not saying that you can't dislike a film for having the element of fast location changes if that's just something you don't like, but it doesn't automatically degrade the film.

  • @SequentiallyCompact Fasting pacing, particularly in the early stages of a film, is never a good thing.

  • @buc555

    It still isn't an objective flaw of the story. I don't see why it was so hard for some people to keep up with, it told you where you were, what year it was, and who the characters were in each instance.

  • @TheDarkFrontier Fast pacing makes it a lot harder for an audience to keep track of what is going on and take it in. It's never good to be told too much too quickly.

  • @buc555

    If people couldn't follow five scenes that told you where it was and what year then they must've been focusing on the taste of their popcorn instead.

  • @TheDarkFrontier the year and place were not really that important. The fact that these scene were fairly short and came one after the other very quickly in the early stages of the film means that the pacing comes across as very fast. It gets better in the second half though.

    I didn't have any popcorn this time, my theater charges like £5 for it!

  • @buc555

    I do agree that the scenes could've done to have been longer, but I didn't find it hard to keep up with.

    Fuuuck! Should see my theatre, there was this couple in front of me, bought two large Pepsis and popcorn, and they were charged £25 o_O

  • I really liked it, I thought it was the best superhero film of the summer. Are you going to review Super 8? (I'd love to hear what you thought)

  • So far, I think X-Men First Class was the best comic book movie of the summer. It was better than Thor, and leaps and bounds above Green Lantern.

  • @confusedmatthew

    I think we have to take into consideration how badly Fox rushed the filmmakers Matthew Vaughn and Jane Goldman, the director-writer team who've shown they're capable of so much more with Kick-Ass - that and the studio clearly had them dilute their edgiest material. With that said, I thoroughly enjoyed myself, thought it was just shy of the franchise pinnacle of X-Men 2, and contained real standout performances from Jennifer Lawrence and Michael Fassbender. 7/10.

  • the older fans were upset that they screwed up the timline in the prevous movies

    this one continued the screwed up timeline by adding ppl that were not even born in the 60s, they had to do that because a lot of the orginal xmen were reset into kids or their timline already screwed up in other movies

    I want them to stop making x-men movies so marvel can pick it back up and reboot it in the marvel universe

  • @toadenk

    They only screwed up the Hank thing.

  • I saw it with a free pas because I couldn't use it for Super 8.

    I found it good if you go in not expecting it to have a connection to any X-Men canon. Also like you when I first heard the title I thought it would be the founding of the school with young versions of the original team taught by Prof. X.

    I personally didn't notice the fanservice while watching, but in hindsight yeah... (& it's almost-always for the boys)

  • @ckat13 ...& say what you will about the Twilight movies, at least they give their lady fans some fanservice ;P .

  • @ckat13 Amen sistah! Sexual pandering is almost exclusively targeted at men. Its about time you girls got something for a change! lol

  • The Part of "the last Stand" that pissed you off would be the scene with the golden gate bridge and the telepathic mutant just standing around. People are fighting for their lives and she stands around.

  • I liked the film right up until everyone was on the beach at the end. Basically everything that happened on the beach, aside from the resolution of Kevin Bacon's plot line, seemed really rushed. I would have much preferred to have a sequel with Magneto and Xavier still working together, but with growing tension, and then have the big break between them happen in the third movie.

    Also, not to be a language nazi or anything, but it's spelled "genre" not "genera".

  • @Wheremybitchez You're absolutely right, that is the film's major problem

  • After I saw this film I was standing in the parking lot saying how I really like how the relationship between Prof. X and Magneto was done.You know. Charming British guy finds a troubled young man and tries to train him to use is innate powers for good but ultimately fails. The young man becomes evil and the two become enemies. OK so if the people who did X-men were able to do a decent job of this in two hours, with all the other crazy crap going on, why couldn't Lucas do it in three movies?

  • Confused Matthew listens to Spill! Awesome!

  • @DeadHippos3D I loooooove Spill :)

  • @confusedmatthew do you listen to spill podcasts? i started just watching their videos, then i listened to the unedited audio, now I practically only listen to podcasts. Thats where some of their best free form conversations on movies, music and games comes from.

  • in later scenes magneto is totally irish

  • wrong angel, ryan :/

  • I get that you have to compare it to "The Dark Knight", cause it raised the bar and all. But if you're going to say that, then you have to say this as well; "X-Men: First Class" is THE best superhero movie since "The Dark Knight". Name me one better. Cause it sure as hell isn't "Punisher: War Zone", "Watchmen", "X-Men Origins: Wolverine", "Iron Man 2", "Jonah Hex", "Thor", or "The Green Lantern". :P

  • You know First class was setting up the x men trilogy right

  • James McAvoy who plays prof. X is Scotish

  • This was a good film, but personally speaking stewert and mckellen are two of the greatest actors of all time so it immediately falls behind x1 and x2 ( they did f-all in x3 so hell if i'm including it )

  • I think this is the best X Men movie.

  • Delaware. We're in Delaware.

  • Captain Matinee to the rescue! Wow, references to both Spill and Pretty Much It movie reviewers. Weird

  • I'm officially calling Mary Sue on Batman.

  • You don't like internal plots, do you? You had these same complaints with the Deathly Hallows movie, which was also character-oriented.

    The external plot is not the point of this movie; the point is all of these characters who have to grapple with the knowledge that mutants will never be accepted into society and they need to decide how to handle this knowledge. The characters are the point of First Class; the external plot is the catalyst for the internal conflicts.

    Green Lantern film sucked.

  • @Darklordjadow1 I was thinking the same thing.

  • @LeonSKennedy828 Thank you. Maybe if Matthew watched it again he'd pick up on that.

    About the movie or about Green Lantern sucking?

  • i did enjoy but the origin story was all fucked up I had to explain even simple crap like what the gate meant to my friend

  • Stop saying every comic book movie should be like The Dark Knight. Not every super hero movie needs to be a half hour too long and totally devoid of fun.

  • Whats a "round up" scene?

  • @Ryoku75

    It's basically where you have the main characters (or their affiliates) going out to literally get people together. It's pretty much a montage of scenes, with some prominent character(s), literally rounding up the people needed for the film. Like in this, Xavier and Magneto recruit Alex Summers, Angel, Darwin, (attempted to) Wolverine etc etc.

  • Drawin is black and Latino. In his younger days he is a more brown, but when he get older he turns lighter ( I don't have a clue way ) Also after he died I did not care about the movie at all. I mean kill off the other brother seemly in the whole movie. And the only sister goes bad. What the feel is that about .

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  • I kinda see where you're coming from here, but I quite enjoyed all the character development, especially for Charles, Eric and Mystique. Most of the other characters are flat, but I think these three were brilliantly written.

  • I'm honestly shocked you guys didn't mention Magneto. I honestly think that was the best performance in the movie.

  • Hey Matthew. What is your opinion of Wolverine's Revenge?

  • This movie is crap.It spits all over the source material.

    Serious Fox should just give up the rights and give them back to Marvel so they can be done right.

  • Other than that and some bad acting in parts(the kids in the begining, January Jones's entire character) and dumb stuff that shouldn't have got into the film at all(Darwin's entire non-character), I thought the film was alright. I think it would have been sooooo much better though if it had just been an Xavier & Magneto movie and ended with them deciding to found the school and start to look for young mutants.

  • The only BIG issue I have with this movie is the same one I had with Singer's other X-Men movies: heavy fucking handed message mongering(and I know Vaughn directed this and not Singer but Singer was still a producer here and it still ties into his films).  They actually NEED to make two grown adult profession CIA agents act like a couple of racist dumb-asses to get their point across that 'humans are bigoted'. I swear to God, Singer doesn't have a subtle bone in his body for storytelling.

  • And remember kids: When you're reviewing a movie, make sure you pay attention to the movie more than not at all.

  • matt - (x-men origins: wolverine)

  • I liked this movie. It surprised me. The past few Xmen related movies really, really disappointed me...

  • @BladeStrike i liked wolverine but i like wolverine

  • im fairly sure the guy who played xavier is irish

  • Gene should have gotten off her ass!

  • Pretty terrible review dude.

  • I'm surprised you liked this movie. All the X-Men characters were boring and interchangeable. I can't even remember their names. And going into it, I was like "I guess Professor X gets crippled in the end by Magneto, who sort of regrets it but doesn't say sorry." And I'm not even smart. I thought this was the worst of the series, which is saying quite a bit.

  • @playadominical

    Worst of the series? Are you out of your fucking mind?! I know it is your opinion but how can this be worse than Wolverine?! The film with more plot holes than swiss cheese, worse one liners than Mr Freeze and the raping of the Deadpool character?!!? Wtf, dude? No offence but you will fail as a movie critic. You could say this film sucks but it is no way worse than Wolverine.

  • @PinheiroIllness85 i'm not a movie critic, just a movie fan. i don't agree with CM's opinions very often, but he usually makes a strong case. this is why i consider him to be a good reviewer (when he isn't screaming into the microphone). so saying i would make a bad reviewer because you disagree with my opinion doesn't make much sense to me.

    ps: i preferred the wolverine movie because i liked how the characters were handled, particularly sabretooth. but it wasnt a great movie.

  • This is my review of this film... someone should have a look at this please maybe?

  • My take:

    X-Men: mediocre.

    X-Men II: quite good.

    X-Men III: the worse of the trilogy.

    X-Men FC: good, better than the 2nd film.

  • @FPietros you forgot wolverine

  • How did you find this hard to keep up with? I kept up with it fine, it's not like it jumps around so much that you can't keep up with it at all. Also, why does everybody feel the need to compare every new superhero movie to the Batman franchise? Movies don't stand a chance if they're being compared to them every second.

    I think you and Ryan were possibly passively watching this, because there is far more to this film than you're giving it credit for.

  • @TheDarkFrontier everybody feels the need to compare every new superhero movie to the Batman franchise because the Batman franchise raised the bar for superhero movies. That's just what happens when someone makes a great series in a genera. The rest of the movies in that genera will naturally be expected to be of a higher quality, and people are right to criticize them if they aren't.

  • @confusedmatthew

    I agree, the same way Star Trek 2 raised the bar for Star Trek movies that came after it. I'm not saying people have no right to compare them, but in my view at times, it seems unfair to judge them against each other, rather than judging them against the previous works of the franchise. It would be like judging Star Wars against Star Trek 2.

    There is a lot more to this film character wise though, than you and Ryan say.

  • @confusedmatthew i understand that C.nolan raised the bar up high with the batman franchise but that doesnt mean that a superheromovie doesnt get to that high standard... that its lesser of a good movie or anything like that :) and like thedarkfrontier said... i also think that you watched it a bit passively and therefor didnt give the film credit for a certain things that are done well in the movie etc

  • X-Men: First Class was X-cellent. The first actually good X-Men.

    The previous "Wolverine and the X-Men" movies weren't any good.

  • Not every superhero film has to be the Dark Knight, and I would hate it if they were.

  • People need to stop comparing every superhero film ever to the fucking Batman movies, no movie stands a chance at that point in a review.

  • @moshmachine Why? There is no reason why a movie can't be better than the Batman movies. I mean, you could have said the same thing about Spider-Man 2 until it was unseated.

  • @moshmachine

    The best superhero movie is the best buoy to establish what makes a good superhero movie, the best inspiration to imagine how they could have made this better. It is a comparison, but not strictly a comparison of the quality of the films.

  • @moshmachine The new Batman franchise raised the bar significantly. If X-Men First Class had come out ten years ago it would have been very good, but super hero movies have been getting better. This movie - good though it may be - seems to want to pretend that the shift to quality superhero movies never happened. It wants to be mindless entertainment, and it is. Nothing wrong with that. But there is also nothing wrong with recognizing that the genera has changed while this film stays the same.

  • @confusedmatthew You judge a film solely by the content within the film itself and the work involed with it's conception. You can't compare a film within any genre with it's dominant master, that's just lazy unconstructive criticism. As for The Dark Knight, if you removed the theatrical costumes (Bruce Waynes and the Joker), it wouldn't be a superhero film, it would be a crime thriller. You can't compare The Thing with Metropolis, it's just not how it works.

  • @confusedmatthew

    While I always respect your take on films, I think you might have misjudged this. I think the director did try to make as high a quality film as possible, and he did attempt to promote the material with all respect to it. The fact that it doesn't quite reach the quality of Batman Begins is no shame; that film is superior to most Oscar winning titles. For my money, this is the best X-Men film apart from X2, and so far is the best film I've seen all year.

  • @confusedmatthew You finding this movie to be just mindless entertainment is pretty surprising. Magneto and Xavier, Magneto and Mystique, Mystique and Xavier, and Mystique and Beast are all developed relationships that are really pulled off well. In a sense the character interaction with one another was better than even The Dark Knight. Magneto's betrayal of his friend Xavier is tragic yet inevitable since they were both very different people. There is more to this movie then your letting on.

  • @confusedmatthew What did you think of the first 2 films????????????

  • Matthew why u hate guys from spill.com(this is not first time u dissed them)? Personally, I enjoy listening to them and you both.

  • @Lius525 by normal thought, most of spill is kinda like Rodger Ebert. Only Carlyle is an actual full time critic with the rest having secondary jobs before this. So they tend to rate things a little higher than a sinic like matthew due to things he doesn't care about. Like giving points to style and saying it makes up for story or thinking the story is great up to a point where as with Matthew it's all about story.

  • Why do you hate round up scenes?

  • Why do you hate spill.com ?

  • this movie was the first time sense avatar I felt like the fact that I was watching it in a cinema made me enjoy it more then I otherwise would

  • you did x-men 3 (the crappy ending)

  • If I want to watch an x-men movie.. Which should I watch first?

  • @jesmurf Watch the original movie first.

  • Two words.

    Jean Grey.

    Does that jog your memory?

  • The story should've been as simple as to save a very important mutant from the bad guy.

  • No movie needs as many "gettin' it done, workin' it out" montage transitions as this one has. Too many montages means there wasn't enough movie in the first place.

    And I think that's kind of what nobody can put their finger on about what's wrong with this movie. It's not bad, it's not good, it's not this, it's not that...

    What it *really* isn't is a movie. It's more like a high-school videography project that got procrastinated on so they stuck Kevin Bacon in there to make up for it.

  • I could have sworn you reviewed last stand. Weren't you yelling, "she's just standing there" I could have sworn that was you.

  • I felt this was a very good movie, weighed down by very bad elements. The character interactions were great; January Jones was a mess. Sebastian Shaw was creepy as hell; the helmet was silly-looking. The attempt to integrate mutants with human history was refreshing; the anachronisms were a little annoying. When all's said and done, I think the film was undercut by certain executive demands...but could have been truly great.

  • just so you know james mcavoy is scottish

  • last stand was horrible

  • Yep, James McAvoy is Scottish, but his normal accent comes off much stronger elsewhere. He was toning down his Scottish-ness here.

  • Liking the flood of content after a long thaw you did. Kudos.

  • The movie was mostly about Charles and Erik. Everything else was secondary to that. I really enjoyed it. I felt that alot of characters werent developed, but it was fun and I really liked the friendship with Charles and Erik. James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender owned this movie. It really made me want to see a Magneto centric film. I dont care about the continuity. Comic fans should be used to continuity being messed up. Especially X-fans. Plus it is his own universe anyway.

  • this movie was amazing.

  • "CGIed out camel toe"

    lol

  • i really think your shortchanging this movie. Your main complaint was that kids didn't really get developed, but the movie wasn't really about them. They were background characters. In my opinion the main story of this movie revolves around xavier and magneto, and how those two philosophies can not mesh together despite the mutual respect they have for each other. This is a buddy movie not a team movie. your complaint is like criticizing star wars for not developing storm troopers character

  • @wafelzz I completely agree this is how I saw the movie as well.

  • The guy who plays Xavier is the guy from Wanted. Hes did a good job in this movie , yet i found the movie kind of boring without Hugh Jackman, im just used to him.

  • when are you gonna do the reviews by yourself?

  • who should talk about falling skies

  • Confused Matthew, why?!

    This movie was wretched. It was a big dumb action movie. They could have done SO much more... and followed the comic, which it doesnt, at all. It spits on anyone who follows the comics.

    Sigh. Matthew... it sucked. Big dumb summer action movie is not what Xmen should be.

  • @Archedgar I'm not sure "dumb" is the right word. They're clearly trying to work with certain ideas and themes in the film; they just had no regard for the audience's intelligence so it ended up being very in-your-face. And frankly, the early comics wouldn't have made for good film material by themselves.

  • I honestly felt the over arching story was more about the relationship Prof. X and Magneto. I personally had no trouble keeping track of all the separate story lines I thought they melded them together well. Personally I never felt it dragged and I was always engaged in the story. Though that may have also been cause I was enjoying the steamy bromance between McAvoy and Fassbender :P

    sidenote: James McAvoy is in fact scottish.

  • the nazi antagonist really threw me off because i could not recognize him after magnetos past

  • January Jones, you exist simply to make men realize what we will never have.

  • And Matthew Vaughn, who directed and co-wrote Kick-Ass, also directed and co-wrote this movie.

  • And don't forget Wolverine's magic motorcycle, which can travel from New York state to the San Francisco area and back within a day.

  • Mutant and proud!

  • The ending to the Last Stand is what pissed you off, with Jean Grey just standing there, not doing anything, until the plot needed her to.

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