what would we do?

[majabsalu]

dats a opened my eyes on a level i actually never though of ............nuff said

[lapislazuline]

well the aliens wouldn,t have goverment

backing or the law on their side so we could

send them packing without fear of recrimination

[pennilesscripple]

ha!

derrick jensen and stephanie mcmillan wrote a graphic novel called 'as the world burns' (highly recommended, easy read)

and in it aliens come down to rape and pillage the land, and the government is in cahoots with them

because of a clever plot element i won't give away

nice to seeya, lapis

[crazyshark70]

well, firast the goverment would bve retarted and go cover it up even though it's blantly out there.

People would panick,some people wouldn't care, some people would take it in,some peoplewould retaliate and that's all I can think of.

[pennilesscripple]

so all those things are happening right now, shark

so what should we do?

[crazyshark70]

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Whhhaaatttt?

[pennilesscripple]

our planet is being systematically deforested

our rivers are being damned

there is dioxin in every mother's breast milk

what should we do?

[ReliableInsider]

Excellent. Polluters have been around for a hundred years. We're like the frog in the slowly warming pot.

It's time to say enough is enough.

How can we stop Poland and China from destroying the environment if we're not man enough to stop OUR OWN CORPORATIONS!

The pro-polluter party actually got almost 50% of the vote in the 2000 election!!!

How?

[pennilesscripple]

both parties are pro-polluter parties

and the pot is already boiling

the first step is to step out of denial and look at the truth

it won't be found in the media

[ReliableInsider]

If say the two parties are indistinguishable, you are helping the worser party.

First, VOTE for the better party. THEN criticize them.

[FCKITUP]

Thats like shooting yourself in the foot and then realizing it was a bad idea.

[ReliableInsider]

If all the decent people drop out, all of our leaders will be chosen by the jerks.

Is that good?

If you could go back in time, would you vote for the German candidate who would kill 1 million instead of 6 million?

There's nothing abstract about that.

[dickyco2]

Space age technology has been used over many years to try and turn the Earth into the Moon

[pennilesscripple]

well put dickyco2

[zezt]

what would we do. the humans doing this ARE like fukin space aliens right. some like Icke have theories they are reptoids. i dont buy that. BUT these people seem SO dehumanized they are doing all that!

AND they have got fukin spacebeams etc ready!!

[zezt]

let me qualify. I am NOT saying that real ETs are like the humans doing all the ecocide here!

[pennilesscripple]

yes *some* humans ARE doing this

and they are dehumanized

they are the end result of moving to the top of our fucked up system

totally valuing power and money over life

and they need to be stopped

today

yeah the real ETs would probably say "oh you poor people"

[zezt]

its hard to know. the DP some say is much psyop. BUT, IF its true some ETs have disengaged nuclear warheads. maybe they is playin it cool. in that they expect US to sort out OUR problems. rather than be saved like kids. though we could do with some help! see above

[dmio2]

Gort, Klaatu barada nikto...wish it would work.

[gratex]

we'd get it into our heads that the aliens have our interests at heart, that this is for the best, and we can't live other way if we want to have any progress. Think of the advances in technology they'd give us man.

great vid :)

[pennilesscripple]

yeah

i think we've already kinda done that....

thanks :)

[pennilesscripple]

yeah we're suckers for the surfaces

and blind to what's behind the shiny facades

[crazycatfguy]

Unfortunately I think we would beg Bush to handle the problem for us and be willing to let him trash what is left of the constitution and the bill of rights.

[pennilesscripple]

ooooo yeah

given the recent evidence

that is very likely what 'we,'

i.e. the american people, would do

good call allen

heh

[PeaceProfit]

YOU would adopt their technology and continue on the same course until the planet rejected the disease WE would leave having never shared our complete knowledge of space travel with mankind

and so you continue, lessor for what we have been and are, yet greater in the knowing of what you could possibly be

((( Critical*Mass - Peoples*Action )))

One*Billion - Global*Citizens - One*Peace

Strength, Unity, Peaceful*Change

Act*On - Nov. 2nd - 2008

Create the Ripples, Ride the Wave, Be the Change

[Mork5]

Have not seen that jensen clip, but why aliens ?

We've been doing this, and we're going to continue.

The kids of the richest will survive in the orbit living on genohydroponics,

than we'll have become aliens.

[pennilesscripple]

it's not a clip, but a talk, and the link is in the sidebar. he was posing a hypothetical question in an effort to splank us into action, instead of the widespread resignation you seem to be expressing in this comment.

[Mork5]

ok man I immediately will go for that talk to get splanked

[pennilesscripple]

heh yay

there are also some great jensen videos

in the 'related links'

he's a world-class splanker

[pennilesscripple]

(the redpharmacist vids

with the bright green borders)

[Mork5]

Thank you ps for insisting on me to listen to that, it indeed may help to fight my resignation (a topic you and z3 are far ahead I know) so the term right now to think about for me is *critical mass*.

[pennilesscripple]

oh hell mork it's very discouraging, and easy to be resigned, and i'm hardly free of it. but resignation just adds to the problem. yeah the concept of critical mass gives everyone strength.

[PositivelyPrimitive]

"We", meaning government ruled by the people ( ha ha) or as individuals? As an individual, I'd hide out and wait til the dust settled.

[pennilesscripple]

we as individuals

when the dust settles, there will be no more trees, fish, or rivers

so where will you hide, and what will you eat?

[PositivelyPrimitive]

I'm hiding in the woods, and eating whatever is available. If there is nothing left, then I too shall cease to be.

[pennilesscripple]

i hear ya, and i'm a sorrel-nibbling bunrab too, at heart

but love does not imply pacifism

as a matter of fact, it spurs us to protect and defend what we love--in this case, the fish and the trees and the rivers

as a mother tiger's love would spur her to defend her cubs, even at the risk of her own life

[HoldinCoffee]

...what would we do? We'd shake their fins, pat 'em on their backs and appoint 'em to the Council On Foreign Relations.

[crazycatfguy]

There are too many aliens on the cfr already.

[pennilesscripple]

heh

yeah i used to think david icke was loony

now i'm not so sure

:)

[AdviceToMyClones]

Still listening to his speech, thanks for the link.  Cool vid.

[pennilesscripple]

neat clones nice to seeya

yeah there are a bunch of good videos too

most of them are in the 'related videos' link

[mistaspot1]

some independence day shit

[pennilesscripple]

so...these things are being done as we speak

why aren't we doing some independence day shit about it now?

[mistaspot1]

We should be, but peaceful people usually tend to be non-violent. I'm all for it, personally.

[PEACequaLsanityWORLD]

peaceful people need to get their act together and combine forces so we can actually do something instead of debating crucial issues necessary for the survival of this planet.

[mistaspot1]

1day1thought

[alyshahazzard]

"You're alive. Do something. The directive in life, the moral imperative was so uncomplicated. It could be expressed in single words, not complete sentences. It sounded like this: Look. Listen. Choose. Act." _ Barbara Hall

It's pretty simple people. We just complicate it.

[FiReaLuv]

B

you

TTT

fuLL

peacEveryonEverywherEveryday!

[davidaorta]

i'd capture one and feed it reeces pieces...

[pennilesscripple]

washed down with dioxin-laced breast milk

[not2tees]

The trouble is, we don't go by the attitudes when it comes to alien, we think the aliens have to look different than we do.

[pennilesscripple]

oh tees i think i'm falling in love with your mind

sigh such a sweet cyberyearning ;^)

yeah we are ridiculously swayed by the appearances of things, by the surfaces not the depths

[zzz33333]

fucking destroy them