i want to ask if japanese were this 'kind' that showed in this video why they went to china and stared the war? this video seems so fake and ridicules and this should be made by japanese government in purpose to cheat and hide their guilt.
As to Nanking, some have said that the actions of the Chinese forces provoked the Japanese military into committing atrocities (by not surrendering but ambushing the Japanese at various points). When Peking surrendered earlier, there were no atrocities reported.
It is always very difficult to get at the truth in these cases because of war time proproganda.
what you say about 「戦勝国正義、敗戦国悪魔」is certainly right! History books and news are written by man, not by a video camera. But as some educated men, before talking about right and wrong, we should first acknowledge the fact. You say the US is bad in 自分達の原爆の戦争犯罪を正当化するために30万人大虐殺論を支持するでしょう。そして欧米の侵略や虐殺を無視して. yes you are right. But you are doing the same. you are 自分達の30万人大虐殺の戦争犯罪を正当化するために原爆論を支持するでしょう。そして中国の侵略や虐殺を無視して.
@maozhuxiwansui7 Sorry I haven't make myself clear: I agree with you that 戦勝国正義、敗戦国悪魔 is bad. And no one can deny what actually happened. I wasn't trying to judge who's right and who's wrong. In my previous comment I was saying that, Japanese should NOT use the single event of US dropping atomic bombs as a camouflage of the Nanjing Massacre.
@crashonhigh it is a bit different. us government made the atom war due to the attack on pear harbour which japanese stared first, however japanese stared the war to china because of nothing but their ambition
In my opinion, every nations has wrong doings, Chinese has been wrong, The US has been wrong, and so as your nation. i am not counting whether Japanese has done more good than bad, I am talking about the acknowledgement of what actually happened. Certainly the US dropped 2 nuclear bombs, killing so much innocent people. Everyone may have different opinions towards the morality behind the nuclear bombs from the US, but one thing for sure is that the US ADMITTED WHAT THEY DID.
my Japanese friend, i don't understand you point- you say you are providing us with "truth" in this footage, yes i don't see any killing here (not a drop of blood!). But what does the absence of killing scenes in your footage indicate? Chinese weren't kill? then how can you explain the footage and photos of the killing scenes?
It is not that I don't want to believe in you; it is you who can't convince me.
(Part2)Among these cases, only seven cases were clarified to be crimes committed by Japanese soldiers and notified the Japanese Army of the crime in order to disclose the fact and to capture the suspects.
(Part1)Do you know how many cases of rape were (including attempted) reported in the documents by the Safety Zone Committee in China in 1937-1938? According to the report from Safety Zone Committee, the total number was 361. And among them, there were only 61 cases, which definitely clarified who witnessed the cases, which heard and reported.
A photo has displayed at the Nanking Massacre Museum. The caption said, "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of them were gang raped or forced into military prostitution. But this photo appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on Nov 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle. The explanation says, "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers."
The Japanese killed many Chinese people? I don’t think so. John Rabe sent a letter of appreciation to the commander of Japanese army on Dec. 14 1937. This is the letter. 「Dear Sirs. We express our appreciation to your artillery’s praiseworthy act of having not attacked the safety zone and for becoming able to communicate with you (commander Matsui) about the future plan for supporting Chinese citizens in the same area. 」 (Stenography No.210).
John Rabe, the chairman of TSZC wrote in his diary on December 10, that when the Nanking battle began, the population was 200,000. After the war in the Nanking city, the population was increased. TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000. Chinese government said 300,000 people were killed by Japanese. How?
(Part2)Lewis Smythe, professor of Nanking University investigated the population with the help of many Chinese staffs on February 1938. He wrote a report which shows the population of Nanking was 250,000 or 270,000 as of the end of March 1938. The japanese killed 300,000 Chinese people?
(Part1)Do you know John Rabe? He was a member of the Safety Zone Committee. He wrote in his diary in Dec 10, the Nanking population was 200,000. Moreover, TSZC described in the Document No.9 dated in Dec 17, "We had nearly all the civilian population in the Safety Zone, so the number 200,000 in Dec 13 when the Japanese entered the city. Also TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000.
Those JAPS are motherf*ckers . And ther's one thing i have to say is that part of the Chinses history that taught in school is true, and the other part and i'm not really sure.
Though we learnt the history which is not true from school, we got much about the truth on the Internet.
All i know about the Nanking Massacre is that it is compeletly true and those Japs can not cover the truth forever!
@Laurentia0410 Hurling abusive language is not helping, so calm down, chap. Why are you people too blind to see the patent fact that your government is trying to divert the public discontent by exaggerating the story and stoking up jingoism? It's a good example to show how gullible the mass is.
@spirit1812 well..... The suituation in China is becoming serious.. I can't say something so sure cuz i live in big city and it's hard for people in small towns to know what the truth is... Maybe everybody knows it for a little or even more, they just don't say it, they think it's a trouble to know it...
okay.. I will calm down for that... and God bless China.
American Rulph Townsend stayed in China in 1930. He said, “One of these was tying a victim immovable and unclothed over a freshly sprouting bed of thorny cactus which is said to grow very rapidly in south China, and with great force, so that sharp spines with which in breaks through the sod pierce upward as it grows and gradually penetrate the helpless man’s body in the course of a day or two”.
Although Japan has little hope to start war in the next 10 years, Japanese militarists can wait for the opportunity. Then they can become rapists again! Evil Japanese men should join the army because there are many foreign pretty girls they can rape.
So, the best thing for the Japanese government to do is to well train their soliders to become killing machines and animals. and of course well prepare for the resources for the war.
The winner is everything. If the Japanese soliders like to rape and massacre foreign people, they must be the winner next time when they start another war.If they were unluckily defeated again,,,they need to lie again that they never committed crime.
Shit Japanese! The World War II, Sino War and Nanjing Massacre are made by Shit Japanese Emperor! Could it be said that the history is 100% a sheer fabrication?? If fabrication, why did USA use atom bomb to attack Japan in the World War II?? I understand Japanese can make many AV insignificant movie! you also never think that is humiliation! because Japanese are mean and having no sence of shame!
Shit Japanese! The World War II, Sino War, Nanjing Massacre, as well as are made by Shit Japanese Emperor! Can you tell me 100% the history is a sheer fabrication?? No kill one Chinese?? I understand your country can make many AV insignificant movie! you never think humiliation, because your Japanese are mean and having no sence of shame!!
Shit Japanese! The World War II, Sino War, Nanjing Massacre, as well as are made by shit Japanese Emperor! Can you tell me 100% the history is a sheer fabrication?? No kill one Chinese?? I understand your country can make many AV insignificant movie! you never think humiliation, because all of Japanese are mean and having no sence of shame!
Shit Japanese!! The World War II, Sino War, Nanjing Massacre, as well as are made by your shit Japanese Emperor! Can you tell me 100% the history is a sheer fabrication?? No kill one Chinese?? I understand your country can make many AV insignificant movie! you never think humiliation, because all of Japanese are mean and having no sence of shame!!!
(Part2)The guys rushed into the committee office, and they told, “Japanese soldiers were raping women”, and “Japanese soldiers were seizing commodities from Chinese family”. John Magee and George Ashmore Fitch typed the stories without any inspection. Therefore, Mr. Fukuda protested to them many times. In fact, Mr. Fukuda went to check the Japanese crime scene which was reported a robbery by a Chinese guy, there was no people, no broken and no any noise.
(Part1)A Japanese whose name was Tokuyasu Fukuda, he was Japanese embassy staff, visited to the committee, he was surprised at the situation because John Magee and George Ashmore Fitch was writing reports, which were reported by some Chinese young guys.
to cheap JAP military guys, there are no other way to let them bestow you, you need to be stronger and tougher like American did to bomb it. And you know what, those military Japs are kissing American's ass and please check the documents by the imperil library, they actually awarded the General of American who conceived and executed the Bombing plan with a national honor. What a pathetic place
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In order to kill 300,000 people in six weeks, we have to kill a person in 12 seconds in 6 weeks day and night. Can you imagine? The nanking area is almost same as the internal of Yamamote line of Tokyo, or the half of Manhattan Island of NY. Can you kill? No, I dont think so.
I think that Chinese love huge number. But fake is fake.
@supertoshios With bullets and machine guns, killing 300,000 is not a hard task, just like the Nazi gathering all the Jews in concentration camps. Its called mass killing method. And moreover, those numbers did not come from the Chinese govt but the international war crime investigating officials. And the list from Hiroshima are counted by the Japanese govt, I m not saying that is a fake list... I m just wondering why mofos like you are on the list.lol. I guess 2 atomic bombs werent enough.lol
@accord03 What is the advantage to kill ordinary Chinese people using machine gun? Even old Japan army, they didnt do such a chuldrish acts. Japan watnted to use Mancuria and around lands, so by killing huge Chinese, Japan could not control Chinese citizens. Funny. It was impossible to kill all Chinese in China land. Japan must use 1000 atomic bombs, lol.
@supertoshios You are right, its impossible to kill all the Chinese. since Japan is a tiny country, it only takes a few bombs. lol Back to the point you left, it make sense that the Japaneses army was short on people, and they need to have kill the resistance to maintain control. do you think there was only 50,000 resistance? It was way more than that. 50.000 casualties would be to small for a capital city like Nanjing.
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@accord03 The number of 50000 includes soldirs who dead in fighting. Why I say 50000? Because there were some memo or testimonies of Japan soldiers. So, I have to belieave. 50000 is the maximum number. On the other hand, China goverment announced the number, 300,000, lol. I cannot stop laughing to hear the number. It is impossible to kill 300,000 in Nanking in 6 weeks day and night.
@supertoshios The japanese memo can made by the japanse, they are just some fake shit. He can just say there was 1 chinese solider and the japanese didnt even kill that 1 chinese solider. lol Not even 1 chinese died when the japanese invaded china. And during the whole war, there were more japanese died in china more that the chinese citizens. If you are right then i guess japan really sucked, and they deserve to be killed since they were trespassing the chinese soil.
@accord03 If you want to verify the Nanking incident, you should research it from both side. It is a baseic theory of verification. However, both government dont verify it. So, this fake propaganda is continueing. But China government is doing intentionally, which means China government uses this fake incident to control citizens.
@supertoshios Really? You couldn't stop laughing when you heard there were 300,000 people died? lol. I could not stop crying when I heard the US dropped 2 atomic bombs in Japan...How could drop 2 atomic bombs in Japan...ONLY 2??? They should have dropped 200!!! lol Well I forgot the Japan is too small for that. Just like their women, that why you guys have small penis, b/c every is too small...lol
@accord03 Who believes such a fake number? Maybe, even if Chinese, they understand the meaning of the number. I named the number Chinese number since Chinese always say a big number, so I am laughing.
Atomic bomb is true, but nanking is fake. As I said before, Hiroshima has name lists for dead person. But nanking doesnt have. This is the truth of "fake of nanking".
@supertoshios I can say those Hiroshima no. are fake as well. Obviously, those lists are made by the japanese govt. I have taken world history in the US from high school to college. It matches the chinese version. Have you study that part of the history anywhere other that japan? And the chinese version is recognized by almost all nations in the world. You can deny the history all day till Friday and stay in your own little fantasy.
@accord03 So, I have to say that please show me the evidence. I have never seen it, which represents memo of soldiers or bones of 300,000 death. That is all.
@supertoshios Everyone have made mistakes, civilizations do that as well. The war was over more than 50yrs ago. How come some people just wont learn from the history. Wars are bad, and not learning from wars is the worst. Japan lost the war, its the fact that no one can change, and why dont you just take it like a man instead of acting like a little kid whining for attention. Do you wanna another war with the US?
(Part4) On the other hand, we should focus our attentions to the peculiar war culture of China, the so-called Slaughtering the castle (屠城.) 'What 'Slaughtering the castle' means is that 'at the time when the castle falls after having resisted following the enemy's advice for surrender, not only the warriors but also every citizen will be exterminated. While the Prosecution's Chinese witnesses have never eye-witnessed the massacre,
(Part3) not letting the Japanese Army take advantage of them.
On December 9, at noon, the Japanese Army scattered 'Bills advising surrender of the Chinese Army' from the plane in order to avoid unnecessary victims.From the Japanese historical point of view, when Japanese fought against enemy, they decided a battle area for war, which was called 合戦 in Japanese. Japanese samurai (warriors) always avoided that embroil innocent citizens in their war.
(Part2)Von Falkenhausen, the chief of the Military Advising Group of Germany, agreed to their opinions. But, Chiang Kai-Shek insisted on defending the city. Chiang Kai-Shek appointed Tang Sheng-zhi as the commander-in-chief of the Nanking Garrison (Nanking Defense Force), and ordered him to reinforce the wall and destroy citizen's properties outside the wall as the Chinese traditional tactics of the 'Scorched-earth policy'(堅壁清野作戦),
(Part1)The city of Nanking then was a castle city, surrounded by the rampart of 12 meters high, and of 6 to 12 meters thick, and occupied the total area of about 35 square kilometers. On November 14 and 15, the KMT held an opinion conference and discussed whether they should defend the city, or abandon the city and fight in another place. At the conference, the majority expressed their opinions to abandon the city.
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@accord03 I wonder Chinese dont learn anything from history. Chinese is doing the same thing of old Japan armies which you said. They raped Tibet & Uyghur, are invading to other countries, hide own massacre like 64 Tiananmen Square Incidents like that.
@supertoshios Well, wanna see evidence? Then go to China. I was there and everything they show matches what we teach in the US. Have you been to Tibet? Have you seen any bones from Tibet?? LOL I doubt that if you have. You are just prejudice against the Chinese. Please dont just take everything they show you in Japan. Go travel around, and you will discover a different world.
@supertoshios Oh, ok have fun watching videos on youtube and I really hope that the history will change for you...lol. You are so pathetic, simply, your perspective about the world is formed by videos on youtube. LOL. That's right, the truth is out there, but the problem is...you've NEVER been out there!!! lol.
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I watched the video. I dont deny some illegal acts to Chinese soldiers. That was war. War w/o kill is not war. My opinion is that the total number of dead Chinese can be estimated under 50000.
According to the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, the total number of civilians and prisoners of war murdered in Nanking and its vicinity during the first six weeks of the Japanese occupation was over 200,000. These estimates are borne out by the figures of burial societies and other organizations, which testify to over 155,000 buried bodies. These figures do not take into account those persons whose bodies were destroyed by burning, drowning, or other means.
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@accord03 Ha ha, I have never seen such a fantastic evidence. Please show me 155000 bones, and verify using DNA tests. In Hiroshima, we have the list of name who were killed by atomic bomb of USA. If you say so, plaese show me the lists of name, which lists the name of dead person. I have never seen such lists. Even nanking fake musium, they dont have the lists, lol.
Fake is fake, accord03. I have a right to say the objections.
@supertoshios According to the verdict of the Nanjing War Crimes Tribunal on 10 March 1947, there are "more than 190,000 mass slaughtered civilians and Chinese soldiers killed by machine gun by the Japanese army, whose corpses have been burned to destroy proof. Besides, we count more than 150,000 victims of barbarian acts buried by the charity organizations. We thus have a total of more than 300,000 victims." How the hell did you come up with your god damn 50000??
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(Part2)a photo has displayed at the Nanking Massacre Museum. The caption said, "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of them were gang raped or forced into military prostitution. But this photo appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on Nov 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle. The explanation says, "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers."
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(Part1)Photographs purported to be evidence of a massacre in Nanking are on display at the Nanjing Massacre Memorial Hall, at other exhibitions, and in printed publications. However, Analyzing Photographic Evidence of the Nanking Massacre by Higashinakano Shudo (Soshisha, 2005) and other recent scientific research reveal that there are no photographs attesting to a massacre in Nanking. At least 143 pictures are distorted by Chinese government. For example,
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(Part2) About 35 foreign journalists and diplomats attended there. However, Chinese didnt explain the fact which was so-called the Nanking Massacre even once during any of these 300 conferences was a statement or announcement.
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(Part1)In Nov. 1937, during the Battle of Nanking, the Nationalist Party established The International Propaganda Section (IPS). According to the top-secret document entitled Outline of International Propaganda Operations, the IPS held 300 press conferences in Hankou between Dec 1, 1937 and Oct 24, 1938.
@meisyoukaizi The Flying Tigers attacked you first because you are killing innocent Chinese people. And what you saying are does not justify your cowardly attack on PH. I couldn't help but to feel sorry that you are brainwashed like your ancestors by those crazy, shameless militarists. Understand this: Truth stands on its own and cannot be changed.
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(Part3)Among the records in the aforementioned Documents of the Safety Zone are detailed complaints about misconduct attributed to Japanese military personnel. They include a total of 26 murders, only one of which was witnessed (to that account is appended a note describing the murder as a lawful execution). Also, recent research has proven that there is absolutely no basis for the claim that there was a massacre in that city. How does China claim that 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese?
@undertakerRach Well, 300,000 people just don't disappear. During wartime, records cannot be complete. The account shows such a small number because the safety zone was understaffed and many victims are not able to report the atrocities. The population statistic before Japanese occupation does not include the refugees who have retreated to the city and the military personnels (who later became POWs).
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part1)EX-CHINESE OFFICERS AMONG U.S. REFUGEES Colonel and His Aides Admit Blaming the Japanese for Crimes in Nanking New York Times January 4, 1938
Wireless to the New York Times. SHANGHAI, Jan. 3. American professors remaining at Ginling College in Nanking as foreign members of the Refugee Welfare Committee were seriously embarrassed to discover that they had been harboring a deserted Chinese Army colonel and six of his subordinate officers.
@undertakerRach You should respect history, admit to your crimes and stop distorting the facts. Look at the Germans, they have apologized for their crimes during WWII and today we all respected them. There's nothing wrong to admit your wrongs, but it is outrages for trying to hide them.
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part2)The professors had, in fact, made the colonel second in authority at the refugee camp. The officers, who had doffed their uniforms during the Chinese retreat from Nanking, were discovered living in one of the college buildings: They confessed their identity after Japanese Army searchers found they had hidden six rifles, five revolvers, a dismounted machine gun and ammunition in the building.
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part3)The ex-Chinese officers in the presence of Americans and other foreigners confessed looting in Nanking and also that one night they dragged girls into the darkness and the next day blamed Japanese soldiers for the attacks. The ex-officers were arrested and will be punished under martial law and probably executed.
@undertakerRach Still, that Chinese colonel, if he really existed, is a shame for the Chinese people. I admit that such crimes were also commited by the retreating former bandits/corrupted elements in the Chinese forces. Still, such cases (only a few) do not give you the excuses or an alternative explanation of the real face of the Nanking massacre. Otherwise, why isn't here many accusations on the Chinese forces by the citizens of Nanking?
@undertakerRach If the Chinese army is actually the one responsible for the rampage, it could not be hidden and the survivors would point them out. Just think about it, if the Jap army was really being nice to the citizens, why would they accuse the Japs? Why isn't here a single survivor today to defend the Jap. Think about it. You are concentrating too much on the minority cases and use them to represent the overall data, this is a fallacy which could not stand on its own.
@undertakerRach Sources: "the Rape of Nanking" by Iris Chang - the film is taken two weeks after the Japanese occupation and the Army is aware of the effect on public opinions, so they cleaned up and made these films by force. I know you are trying to defend your country as everyone would, but denying the truth is simply not acceptable and it adds more sin. There's nothing wrong to admit the wrongs in the past. Earn respect and understanding.
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part1)One of the Photos displayed at the 'Memorial Hall of Victims in Nanjing Massacre'. It is also displayed in the book The Rape of Nanking. The book states "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of them were gang raped or forced into military prostitution. (Politburo of Military Committee, Taipei)" However, this photo has nothing to do with the gang-rape nor the military prostitution.
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part2)This photo has appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on November 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle. A set of four pictures have appeared in the journal with the explanation, titled as "Utopia amidst the Gun-power: The 'Rising Sun' Village South of the Yangtze." The very picture is captioned with "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers."
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part3) Iris Chang used a black pen, and she erased a womans white teeth in the picture. Do you know why? All of women smiled in the picture. After they finished work in the fields and they backed home with Japanese soldiers. They must have been pleasant chat with Japanese. Analyzing Photographic Evidence of the Nanking Massacre by historians and other recent scientific research reveal that there are no photographs attesting to a massacre in Nanking.
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part4)You know, at least 143 pictures are distorted by Chinese government.
You said Iris Chang had tried to generalize this as the act against humanity before she died. I dont think so. There is no doubt that Iris Chang spread out wrong history which was the Nanking Massacre. This is one of the crimes malicious slanders.
@undertakerRach The "evidence" you provided seemed to be persuasive. However, as you accuse the Chinese faking the photos etc, the Japanese could also make fake films and evidence. And look where all your evidence and theory come from, the Japanese government: I can't help but to question the validity of those evidence too. Think about it. And many of the evidence which proves the Nanking massacre are provided by third party foreigners.
@undertakerRach Also, a German Nazi, John Rabe, was one of the few foreigners stayed in Nanking. If you can, check on his accounts (diary). If the Japanese are really as good as they claimed, then why would he say things he said? Why would he risk himself to the Gestapos? And the cruelty by Jap soldiers during WWII is a world wide phenomenon.
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part1)Hitler and the Nanking Massacre Exposed in Rabes Diary
Iris Changs The Rape of Nanking and Rabes diary (John Rabe was a German member of the Safety Zone Committee in Nanking when Japan attacked KMT military) were published in 1997. They were jointly intended to diminish Europeans from war crimes thereby obtaining wider support for Chinese accusations of Japanese crimes.
i want to ask if japanese were this 'kind' that showed in this video why they went to china and stared the war? this video seems so fake and ridicules and this should be made by japanese government in purpose to cheat and hide their guilt.
zoey769 1 week ago
重要な点は南京は「戦争犯罪」だったのではなくて、日本人が誇るべき「日本の勝利」だったってことなんだよ。 どの戦いにおいても民間人の犠牲はつき物だ。 日本軍による南京の戦いでの民間人狙いの大虐殺は一切証拠が無い。 よって南京の戦いは日本軍の圧勝でこれを日本人はもっと誇るべき。
bazooka9303 3 weeks ago
What would the Chinese military do in those days?
juygre1 4 weeks ago
Will it be the thing which lay down without the figure of the national military during time of Nanjing?
hyuiolptrebhjg 4 weeks ago
As to Nanking, some have said that the actions of the Chinese forces provoked the Japanese military into committing atrocities (by not surrendering but ambushing the Japanese at various points). When Peking surrendered earlier, there were no atrocities reported.
It is always very difficult to get at the truth in these cases because of war time proproganda.
ZLarryZB 4 weeks ago
what you say about 「戦勝国正義、敗戦国悪魔」is certainly right! History books and news are written by man, not by a video camera. But as some educated men, before talking about right and wrong, we should first acknowledge the fact. You say the US is bad in 自分達の原爆の戦争犯罪を正当化するために30万人大虐殺論を支持するでしょう。そして欧米の侵略や虐殺を無視して. yes you are right. But you are doing the same. you are 自分達の30万人大虐殺の戦争犯罪を正当化するために原爆論を支持するでしょう。そして中国の侵略や虐殺を無視して.
crashonhigh 1 month ago
@crashonhigh 戦勝国正義、敗戦国悪魔 强盗逻辑
maozhuxiwansui7 3 weeks ago
@maozhuxiwansui7 Sorry I haven't make myself clear: I agree with you that 戦勝国正義、敗戦国悪魔 is bad. And no one can deny what actually happened. I wasn't trying to judge who's right and who's wrong. In my previous comment I was saying that, Japanese should NOT use the single event of US dropping atomic bombs as a camouflage of the Nanjing Massacre.
crashonhigh 1 week ago
@crashonhigh it is a bit different. us government made the atom war due to the attack on pear harbour which japanese stared first, however japanese stared the war to china because of nothing but their ambition
zoey769 1 week ago
@crashonhigh Sorry here i meant FIGURE846 WAS RIGHT that-----「戦勝国正義、敗戦国悪魔」IS WRONG..
「戦勝国正義、敗戦国悪魔」is WRONG. SORRY!
crashonhigh 1 week ago
In my opinion, every nations has wrong doings, Chinese has been wrong, The US has been wrong, and so as your nation. i am not counting whether Japanese has done more good than bad, I am talking about the acknowledgement of what actually happened. Certainly the US dropped 2 nuclear bombs, killing so much innocent people. Everyone may have different opinions towards the morality behind the nuclear bombs from the US, but one thing for sure is that the US ADMITTED WHAT THEY DID.
crashonhigh 1 month ago
my Japanese friend, i don't understand you point- you say you are providing us with "truth" in this footage, yes i don't see any killing here (not a drop of blood!). But what does the absence of killing scenes in your footage indicate? Chinese weren't kill? then how can you explain the footage and photos of the killing scenes?
It is not that I don't want to believe in you; it is you who can't convince me.
crashonhigh 1 month ago
中国人や韓国人は「嘘を吐く事を悪行だと思ってない」そうな。
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(Part2)Among these cases, only seven cases were clarified to be crimes committed by Japanese soldiers and notified the Japanese Army of the crime in order to disclose the fact and to capture the suspects.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
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(Part1)Do you know how many cases of rape were (including attempted) reported in the documents by the Safety Zone Committee in China in 1937-1938? According to the report from Safety Zone Committee, the total number was 361. And among them, there were only 61 cases, which definitely clarified who witnessed the cases, which heard and reported.
undertakerRach 2 months ago
@fpoweyxzfaohrrmkft あきらめるのはお前だ。
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【神風特攻隊】特攻―空母バンカーヒルと二人の神風(ケネディ著)より
アメリカからみた【神風特攻隊(kamikazetokko)】第二次世界大戦
上記の動画も生きた教科書です。日本は日本海軍百数十隻全滅で戦争は大負けしたように教科書で聞いてましたけど、本当はアメリカ海軍を四百隻以上に打撃を与えて対戦末期にはアメリカ海軍も戦意喪失状態にまで精神的に追い詰めていたようです。。。。。学校の授業になかったよね。
MrYoshida0909 2 months ago in playlist kisaragijirou さんのその他の動画
A photo has displayed at the Nanking Massacre Museum. The caption said, "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of them were gang raped or forced into military prostitution. But this photo appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on Nov 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle. The explanation says, "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers."
undertakerRach 3 months ago
googleで検索。「英語で世界に発信!Undertaker¬¬¬RachのコピペでGO!」
で検索してください。すごく色々な歴史の情報が掲載されて役立つサイト
私たちの先人の方たちが戦勝国側から都合よく作られた一方的な歴史によって貶められようとしております。アメリカ系中国人はアメリカの政治家にもこの件を訴えて、アメリカに「南京大虐殺記念館」を作ろうと持ちかけております。アメリカは自分達の原爆の戦争犯罪を正当化するために30万人大虐殺論を支持するでしょう。そして欧米の侵略や虐殺を無視して、一方的に「戦勝国正義、敗戦国悪魔」を意図的に作り出すでしょう。
先人の汚名とぬれぎぬを晴らすために世界に情報発信のご協力をお願いします。
他にもこちらのサイトは色々な情報が英語と日本語で載っているので、YOUTUBEのコメント欄にコピペしていただけないでしょうか?
YOUTUBEのコメのところにこれをコピペするだけでより多く¬¬¬の日本側の検証と言い分が広められます。
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The Japanese killed many Chinese people? I don’t think so. John Rabe sent a letter of appreciation to the commander of Japanese army on Dec. 14 1937. This is the letter. 「Dear Sirs. We express our appreciation to your artillery’s praiseworthy act of having not attacked the safety zone and for becoming able to communicate with you (commander Matsui) about the future plan for supporting Chinese citizens in the same area. 」 (Stenography No.210).
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undertakerRach 5 months ago
素晴らしく貴重な映像
Ultrasonicmolester 5 months ago
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2condemnAliar 5 months ago
南京!南京!とかいう映画では日本軍を待ち伏せてバッタバッタと撃ち殺してたのに,随分と事実と違うね~
crapengine1990 5 months ago
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FIGURE846 6 months ago
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FIGURE846 6 months ago
Dieu punira le mal japonais
ainsi, il n'y aura plus de tremblements de terre, et le Japon seront détruits
טוב, יהיו יותר רעידות אדמה, ויפן יושמדו
よく、そこに多くの地震となり、日本は破壊される
cswtds 6 months ago
◆歴史の真実を求める全ての方へ。◆
どうか気付いて下さい!!
当時日本軍は『神の軍隊』とまで言われておりました。そような軍隊が捕虜や民間人の虐殺、ましてや慰安婦を従軍させるなどという愚劣極まりない行為をする筈がないのです。
なお、南京大虐殺については、当時の南京市の人口から考えても絶対に不可能なのです。こういった事に関しては、旧ドイツ軍が行ったという事になっているホロコーストも全く同じ事が言えるのです。
どうやったら600万人だなんて数字が出て来るのでしょう。噴飯モノです。
ちなみに。実際、アウシュビッツ=ビルケナウ収容所等にて、30万人程の餓死者は出ています。それは大戦末期、アメリカやイギリスによる大規模無差別爆撃によってドイツ領内の補給線が破壊し尽くされた事によって、十分な食料が行き渡らなくなった為なのです。
遺体処理の光景や、犠牲者の物とされる大量の靴等の写真や映像がありますが、す・べ・て、戦後の捏造です。収容所にある煙突や焼却炉も、戦後連合国の工作員によって作られた真っ赤な偽物なのです!! ナチスはユダヤによるユダヤの為の組織です!!
orihtute 6 months ago
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John Rabe, the chairman of TSZC wrote in his diary on December 10, that when the Nanking battle began, the population was 200,000. After the war in the Nanking city, the population was increased. TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000. Chinese government said 300,000 people were killed by Japanese. How?
undertakerRach 6 months ago
かってサンケイ新聞に掲載された「蔣介石秘録」は
いろいろな意味で貴重な歴史資料。
mizuho4107 7 months ago
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甲午戰爭,盧溝橋事件,柳條湖事變……,對戰爭弱的民族=中國人。
在世界,最粗俗的民族是中國人。在世界,他國添著麻煩了。
這樣的民族,最好是虐殺。
蛆蟲=中國人因重慶轟炸,大量死了,不過,
是自作自受
sadauriuti 7 months ago
あと南京虐殺肯定派が盲目に崇拝してる
「中国の旅」記者・本多勝一
がどうやって書かれたか教えてやろう
中国共産党が事前に準備した「証言者」(笑)の言うことを何の裏付けも調査もせず垂れ流し
それを「中国現地取材」と言ってみせただけ
(そんなの嘘だと言うなら調べてみな)
要するに肯定派なんて口裏合わせて複数人で嘘つけば
それを勝手にキャッチボールで増長、反芻して信じ込む
単なるカルトなんだよ
ys4414 7 months ago
お前ら中国人が崇拝してるラーベの報告でさえ
被害者数全部足しても45人ぐらいしかいなんだぜ?知ってた?
しかもそれすら日本のせいで中国に武器を売れなくなった腹いせに書いた作り話
ys4414 7 months ago
日本人吃屎吧!
vastpoint 8 months ago
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Long live China ~
Xplenovo 8 months ago
↓25歳でこんなコメントしかできない民族、中国人。 つくづく日本に生まれてきて良かったと思う。 だが僕の周りだけでなく日本人の多くは中国のプロパガンダである南京大虐殺があったと思っているし、それどころか知らないという人までいる。
今こんな時だからこそ教科書に真実を載せるべきだと思う。
toberex000001 8 months ago
fuck japan!
shadyharrison 8 months ago
大虐殺の4か月後に10万人の遺体をたった1か月で40人とトラック1台で収容しったいう嘘をまともに信じているんだから、中国人は。
loveyoufolks 8 months ago
これ撮ったひとの手記を読んでみるといい
見たものすべてを撮ったわけでなく、撮ったが検閲で切られたものもあると書かれている
zuma88624 8 months ago
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isytpeople 9 months ago
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“3·11”日本大地震发生后,日本人民遭受的巨大灾难让人悲痛,而日本民众在大地震中所表现出来的“井然有序”更让人肃然起敬。日本人究竟是如何教育孩子的?这引起了我们一线的教育工作者的思考。 作家陈希我在作品中描写过这样的一个故事:“在日本经历了一次堵车,从伊豆半岛到东京,几万辆车一辆挨着一辆,排了一百多公里。但只是在路的一侧堵成一条长龙,那时间段,几乎所有的车都是回东京的,而在另一侧却空荡荡的,谁要是开到那侧,就可以一溜烟顺顺畅畅回去了。可是没有人这么做。更令人震惊的是,这一百多公里的路上,居然不见一名交通警察。在将近10个小时的时间里,车流一步一步地挪,一尺一尺地进,静悄悄,不闻一声鸣笛。他们自己竟把这绵延一百多公里的车龙化解了!如此坚忍、守秩序、万众一心的民族,真是可敬又可怕!” 美国作家鲁思·本尼迪克特在《菊与刀》一书中谈道:“理解日本人,就要理解各得其所的含义。他们对于秩序的信赖是这个强大民族的社会基础。”
sadauriuti 10 months ago
貴重な映像を有難う。
南京陥落、万歳。
ono584 10 months ago
Just check 'Nanking massacre' in wikipedia in 日本語
ouoh1 10 months ago
Just check wikipedia in Japanese!
ouoh1 10 months ago
捏造?這麼多證據,有得捏造?還友外國人都看的一清二楚,想騙鬼阿,幹!
daniel125551241 10 months ago
南京虐殺があったとか言う人は撫順戦犯収容所と中帰連の実態と
安全区委員会と国民党軍の繋がり支那攪乱工作兵について調べてみたらいい
ys4414 10 months ago
what a fake video for propaganda!
arsenaleric1 11 months ago
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毛泽东在1937年8月在陕北洛川会议上的讲话:
"要冷静,不要到前线去充当抗日英雄,要避开与日本的正面冲突, 绕到日军后方去打游击,要想办法扩充八路军、建立抗日游击根据地 ,要千方百计地积蓄和壮大我党的武装力量。对政府方面催促的开赴 前线的命令,要以各种借口予以推拖,只有在日军大大杀伤国军之后 ,我们才能坐收抗日成果,去夺取国民党的政权。"
"有的人认为我们应该多抗日,才爱国,但那爱的是蒋介石的国,我 们中国GCD人祖国是全世界GCD人共同的祖国即苏维埃(苏联) 。我们GCD人的方针是,要让日本军队多占地,形成蒋、日、我, 三国志,这样的形势对我们才有利,最糟糕的情况不过是日本人占领 了全中国,到时候我也还可以借助苏联的力量打回来嘛!"
"为了发展壮大我党的武装力量,在战后夺取全国政权。我们党必须 严格遵循的总方针是"一分抗日,二分应付,七分发展"。任何人, 任何组织都不得违背这个总体方针。"
摘抄文字均见于《毛泽东选集》人民出版社,1967年版。
biklikbala 11 months ago
南京大虐殺は無かった事と主張する方々には、本田勝一氏著の「中国への旅」(朝日文庫)の御一読をお勧めします。取材記事を本にしたもので、本田氏の意見は殆どありませんが。 加害者側は、往々にして被害の規模を多く認めたがらない事は、今も昔も洋の東西を問わず各国とも同じです。広島原爆の死者を、米国では7万有余人と教えています。いわゆる即死者の数だけですね。日本側は20万人以上と言ってますが。
manchan9364 11 months ago
@manchan9364
その本多って捏造して書いた本ですね
『通州事件』『通化事件』で検索してください。どちらも中国が日本人を大量虐殺した事件です。
edo946 8 months ago
中国は今は反日教育をし南京大虐殺30万人を日本に押しつけていますが、それ以前は蒋介石の国民党軍が共産党軍30万人殺したと国民に教育していたそうです。鳴霞さんの動画でその事を知りました。
それを知った時は私も「このやろう、よくも騙してくれやがって!」と思いました。今この動画を見て南京大虐殺がなかった事をより実感してます。
中国人にとって覇気が有る事は良い事、覇気がない事は良くない事。引く事は覇気がないとみなされるそうです。そして、引けば引くほど押してくるそうです。逆に、覇気が有れば相手を認める、という事だそうです。
中国は日本は押せば引く国と思ってるそうです。私達は南京大虐殺が捏造だと知ってます。毅然として真実を訴え続けましょう。
tiel7z 11 months ago 3
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tiel7z 11 months ago
よくも散々騙してくれたな中国人
何が皆殺しだ、何が虐殺だ
お前ら子々孫々に至るまで怨んでやるからな
永遠に呪ってやる
ys4414 1 year ago
@ys4414 さんへ
あなたは言葉が過ぎます。起こる気持ちは充分分かりますが、注意して下さい。
Windowside1 1 year ago
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二戰時期日本仔殺我中國800萬平民!!這恥辱中國人永不忘記,現在仲搶我國釣魚台,中國現在軍事已愈來愈強大,中國航空母艦即將下水,隱形戰機亦研發成功,又有核彈,中國被日本仔侵略的恥辱即將歸還!!
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(Part2)Lewis Smythe, professor of Nanking University investigated the population with the help of many Chinese staffs on February 1938. He wrote a report which shows the population of Nanking was 250,000 or 270,000 as of the end of March 1938. The japanese killed 300,000 Chinese people?
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(Part1)Do you know John Rabe? He was a member of the Safety Zone Committee. He wrote in his diary in Dec 10, the Nanking population was 200,000. Moreover, TSZC described in the Document No.9 dated in Dec 17, "We had nearly all the civilian population in the Safety Zone, so the number 200,000 in Dec 13 when the Japanese entered the city. Also TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
Those JAPS are motherf*ckers . And ther's one thing i have to say is that part of the Chinses history that taught in school is true, and the other part and i'm not really sure.
Though we learnt the history which is not true from school, we got much about the truth on the Internet.
All i know about the Nanking Massacre is that it is compeletly true and those Japs can not cover the truth forever!
Laurentia0410 1 year ago
@Laurentia0410 Hurling abusive language is not helping, so calm down, chap. Why are you people too blind to see the patent fact that your government is trying to divert the public discontent by exaggerating the story and stoking up jingoism? It's a good example to show how gullible the mass is.
spirit1812 1 year ago
@spirit1812 well..... The suituation in China is becoming serious.. I can't say something so sure cuz i live in big city and it's hard for people in small towns to know what the truth is... Maybe everybody knows it for a little or even more, they just don't say it, they think it's a trouble to know it...
okay.. I will calm down for that... and God bless China.
Laurentia0410 1 year ago
the japanese is a pervert.they are shameless and have no humanity
Now,they rape their women because the War 2 was finished.
they can't change their nature of a animal,everyone can see the blue movie
everywhere from Japan for they are just "barbarian".
TheAdvocater 1 year ago
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American Rulph Townsend stayed in China in 1930. He said, “One of these was tying a victim immovable and unclothed over a freshly sprouting bed of thorny cactus which is said to grow very rapidly in south China, and with great force, so that sharp spines with which in breaks through the sod pierce upward as it grows and gradually penetrate the helpless man’s body in the course of a day or two”.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
依家啲日本人成個傻系咁. . .
笑撚死我a_a''
Xplenovo 1 year ago
Although Japan has little hope to start war in the next 10 years, Japanese militarists can wait for the opportunity. Then they can become rapists again! Evil Japanese men should join the army because there are many foreign pretty girls they can rape.
keynesac 1 year ago
So, the best thing for the Japanese government to do is to well train their soliders to become killing machines and animals. and of course well prepare for the resources for the war.
keynesac 1 year ago
The winner is everything. If the Japanese soliders like to rape and massacre foreign people, they must be the winner next time when they start another war.If they were unluckily defeated again,,,they need to lie again that they never committed crime.
keynesac 1 year ago
UndertakerRachさんが下記のサイトをアップしました。
是非、英語で世界の人々に真実を伝えましょう。
中国では「嘘も百回言えば真実に変わる」という諺があります。
私達も「真実を百回言えば信じてもらえる」と思って頑張りましょう。
外国人に”コピー&パスタ”だと馬鹿にされようと関係ありません。
大事なことは『真実を世界の人に知ってもらうこと』です。
Yahoo! 又はGoogle検索。
↓ ↓ ↓ ↓
「 英語で世界に発信!UndertakerRachのコピペでGo! 」
kaito8209 1 year ago
中国共産党を破壊して中国が民主化されたら、中国国民はきっと幸せになると思います。
XtsubuX 1 year ago 2
歴史的にとても貴重な映像をありがとうございます。
当時の日本の映像があるということは、中国国民党プロパガンダ映画「The battle of china」を完全に崩すことになりますね。
XtsubuX 1 year ago
Shit Japanese! The World War II, Sino War and Nanjing Massacre are made by Shit Japanese Emperor! Could it be said that the history is 100% a sheer fabrication?? If fabrication, why did USA use atom bomb to attack Japan in the World War II?? I understand Japanese can make many AV insignificant movie! you also never think that is humiliation! because Japanese are mean and having no sence of shame!
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Shit Japanese! The World War II, Sino War, Nanjing Massacre, as well as are made by Shit Japanese Emperor! Can you tell me 100% the history is a sheer fabrication?? No kill one Chinese?? I understand your country can make many AV insignificant movie! you never think humiliation, because your Japanese are mean and having no sence of shame!!
byingfung 1 year ago
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Shit Japanese! The World War II, Sino War, Nanjing Massacre, as well as are made by shit Japanese Emperor! Can you tell me 100% the history is a sheer fabrication?? No kill one Chinese?? I understand your country can make many AV insignificant movie! you never think humiliation, because all of Japanese are mean and having no sence of shame!
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Shit Japanese!! The World War II, Sino War, Nanjing Massacre, as well as are made by your shit Japanese Emperor! Can you tell me 100% the history is a sheer fabrication?? No kill one Chinese?? I understand your country can make many AV insignificant movie! you never think humiliation, because all of Japanese are mean and having no sence of shame!!!
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byingfung 1 year ago
南京大虐殺はないっちゅーの。皆逃げちゃった後だったんだよ。撃ってきてたのはトーチカの中で足に鎖を繋がれてた兵士だけ。その非人道ぶりを見て日本兵は怒ったんだよ。ホントに中共はウソツキで卑怯だ。
ultra7567 1 year ago 2
南京大虐殺はないっちゅーの。皆逃げちゃった後だったんだよ。撃ってきてたのはトーチカの中で足に鎖を繋がれてた兵士だけ。その非人道ぶりを見て日本兵は怒ったんだよ。ホントに中共はウソツキで卑怯だ。
ultra7567 1 year ago
南京大虐殺が有ったかどうかはわかりません。しかし、もし自分がこれと同じ状況に陥ったら‥自分が殺した敵兵の仲間がまだ生きていたとしたら、彼らの親や子供や兄弟が生きて居たとしたら、そしてそれらの人たちが捕虜として拘束できないぐらいに大勢いたとしたら‥そうして夜を迎えたなら僕は間違いなくその日、枕を高くして熟睡することは出来ないだろう。そうした状況をもし自分が迫られたとしたら‥生き延びるためにやってしまうかも知れない、これも任務遂行のためとして‥思うに虐殺する側も(見知らぬ土地なら尚更)決死の思いで遂行するのではないだろうか‥想像しただけで恐ろしい。戦争は絶対反対です、多分に現場で起きるであろうこうした不測の事態の連続に僕はきっと耐えることができない。日本で生きていくのも精一杯なのに
hirotuki1 1 year ago
見到日本人 就殺!!
maozhuxiwansui7 1 year ago
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tkbluemoon 1 year ago
@tkbluemoon 小日本狗东西!! 猪一样的日本鬼!!
maozhuxiwansui7 1 year ago
もしかして、こんな映像で南京大虐殺が存在しないとでも証明するつもりですか?
JUK003 1 year ago
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もしかして、こんな映像で南京大虐殺が存在しないとでもいいたいんですか?
JUK003 1 year ago
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この映像は明らかに日本政府が日本の国民を騙す画像として撮られていた。
「日本は残虐のことをしていない」、「ほら、日本軍が中国を占領してもこんなに平和なんだよ」とか嘘の映像を国民に流し、日本国民を騙していた。でも
当時のイギリス人記者の証言のように、日本人は一部の中国人を集めて、子供に飴を投げたりして、映像を撮っていた。その反面、人殺し映像や、婦女を強姦した映像はなにも撮っていなかった。
当時の日本人兵士は如何に残虐だったか、このサイトで「七三一部隊」を調べればよく分かる。歴史の勉強として、調べてください。
freegirlbeni 1 year ago
@freegirlbeni 生物兵器開発は当時、他の数カ国の機関でも核開発と共に行われている。
別に日本に限ったことではない。
そもそも731部隊による人体実験の文献証拠等は、
矛盾点と推測の域を出ないものが多い。
全てを擁護するつもりはないが、
敗戦国として、バツの悪い問題が全て日本に着せられた事実は
曲げようのない現実だ。
tkbluemoon 1 year ago
@tkbluemoon じゃ、勝てよ。
JUK003 1 year ago
@freegirlbeni
そのイギリス人記者の名前と、証言の出典を教えていただけますか?
vapsuhvvaowih 1 year ago
@freegirlbeni 731部隊って小説なんだよ。そんなことも知らないの?
ultra7567 1 year ago
@freegirlbeni 実際に飴を渡したんだから、その写真を撮って何が悪い。
だけど、子供に飴を投げているという映像は中国人が日本兵のふりして撮影したものだよね。ほらNANKING1937というテッド・レオンシスの映画の中にあるね。
中国人が日本人のふりして撮影したとわかるのは、軍服が日本軍のと完全に違うからだよ。
東南アジアや中国では、白人が御菓子を恵む時、直接手渡さず放り投げて地面に落ちたのを拾わせていたね。シナ人はそれを思い出して作ったのだろうねえ。
南京で日本兵は御菓子をちゃんと手渡してたんだよ。
その証言したイギリス人記者は誰?いつどこで何と証言したか正確に教えてよ。まさか「映画の中で」という答えじゃないだろうね。
その映画の中では、花火で遊んでいる子供のシーンを編集して、いかにも日本軍が子供たちを空襲しているかのように歪曲捏造してる。
731部隊の証拠とされる写真、映像、証言、これも皆捏造じゃないか!
シナがいかに歴史を捏造しているかよく勉強になるよ。
シナ人とは、所詮そういう民族なんだね。アメリカ人を騙すのも最高にウマイ。カネなんだろうけど・・・・
tdnshh 1 year ago 11
日本基本就唔係國家 係狗地 班仆街香港人仲咁鍾意狗地
abc6282438 1 year ago
日本狗
mark70776 1 year ago
南京大屠殺事實不容否認, japanese people, stop and think, and read the book: rape of nanking
cswtds 1 year ago
@cswtds
Chinese people, stop and think. and go to jail.
chakagunz 6 months ago
(Part2)The guys rushed into the committee office, and they told, “Japanese soldiers were raping women”, and “Japanese soldiers were seizing commodities from Chinese family”. John Magee and George Ashmore Fitch typed the stories without any inspection. Therefore, Mr. Fukuda protested to them many times. In fact, Mr. Fukuda went to check the Japanese crime scene which was reported a robbery by a Chinese guy, there was no people, no broken and no any noise.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part1)A Japanese whose name was Tokuyasu Fukuda, he was Japanese embassy staff, visited to the committee, he was surprised at the situation because John Magee and George Ashmore Fitch was writing reports, which were reported by some Chinese young guys.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
小日本个变态民族。现在也是一样,骨子里全是变态。
wangtianba 1 year ago
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南京虐殺の捏造工作は、もともと中国国民党政府によるものですが・・・今では中国共産党の反日宣伝工作のバイブルとなっていますよね。
困ったものです・・・
pump88berry 1 year ago 13
@pump88berry I fuck you
mark70776 1 year ago
@pump88berry i fuck you dad
mark70776 1 year ago
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@pump88berry
I fu ck you
mark70776 1 year ago
南京虐殺は実です!!!!!私は南京人です!歴史は全部実です!
tyoutouryuu 1 year ago
@pump88berry 放你妈的屁,操,还让个哥翻墙出来骂你
kongfu1987 1 year ago
@kongfu1987 為何你要翻牆才能來這裡
fang5143 1 year ago
@fang5143 censorship
kongfu1987 1 year ago
中国の歴史の捏造断じて許さん 世界平和のためにも中共が崩壊しないといけない
ASDQWE8701 1 year ago 16
to cheap JAP military guys, there are no other way to let them bestow you, you need to be stronger and tougher like American did to bomb it. And you know what, those military Japs are kissing American's ass and please check the documents by the imperil library, they actually awarded the General of American who conceived and executed the Bombing plan with a national honor. What a pathetic place
sunychen23 1 year ago
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狗日的 日本
258190783 1 year ago
behead those who say Japanese are violent
bojanglesme 1 year ago
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accord03 1 year ago
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In order to kill 300,000 people in six weeks, we have to kill a person in 12 seconds in 6 weeks day and night. Can you imagine? The nanking area is almost same as the internal of Yamamote line of Tokyo, or the half of Manhattan Island of NY. Can you kill? No, I dont think so.
I think that Chinese love huge number. But fake is fake.
supertoshios 1 year ago
@supertoshios With bullets and machine guns, killing 300,000 is not a hard task, just like the Nazi gathering all the Jews in concentration camps. Its called mass killing method. And moreover, those numbers did not come from the Chinese govt but the international war crime investigating officials. And the list from Hiroshima are counted by the Japanese govt, I m not saying that is a fake list... I m just wondering why mofos like you are on the list.lol. I guess 2 atomic bombs werent enough.lol
accord03 1 year ago
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@accord03 What is the advantage to kill ordinary Chinese people using machine gun? Even old Japan army, they didnt do such a chuldrish acts. Japan watnted to use Mancuria and around lands, so by killing huge Chinese, Japan could not control Chinese citizens. Funny. It was impossible to kill all Chinese in China land. Japan must use 1000 atomic bombs, lol.
supertoshios 1 year ago
@supertoshios You are right, its impossible to kill all the Chinese. since Japan is a tiny country, it only takes a few bombs. lol Back to the point you left, it make sense that the Japaneses army was short on people, and they need to have kill the resistance to maintain control. do you think there was only 50,000 resistance? It was way more than that. 50.000 casualties would be to small for a capital city like Nanjing.
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@accord03 The number of 50000 includes soldirs who dead in fighting. Why I say 50000? Because there were some memo or testimonies of Japan soldiers. So, I have to belieave. 50000 is the maximum number. On the other hand, China goverment announced the number, 300,000, lol. I cannot stop laughing to hear the number. It is impossible to kill 300,000 in Nanking in 6 weeks day and night.
supertoshios 1 year ago
@supertoshios The japanese memo can made by the japanse, they are just some fake shit. He can just say there was 1 chinese solider and the japanese didnt even kill that 1 chinese solider. lol Not even 1 chinese died when the japanese invaded china. And during the whole war, there were more japanese died in china more that the chinese citizens. If you are right then i guess japan really sucked, and they deserve to be killed since they were trespassing the chinese soil.
accord03 1 year ago
@accord03 If you want to verify the Nanking incident, you should research it from both side. It is a baseic theory of verification. However, both government dont verify it. So, this fake propaganda is continueing. But China government is doing intentionally, which means China government uses this fake incident to control citizens.
supertoshios 1 year ago
@supertoshios Really? You couldn't stop laughing when you heard there were 300,000 people died? lol. I could not stop crying when I heard the US dropped 2 atomic bombs in Japan...How could drop 2 atomic bombs in Japan...ONLY 2??? They should have dropped 200!!! lol Well I forgot the Japan is too small for that. Just like their women, that why you guys have small penis, b/c every is too small...lol
accord03 1 year ago
@accord03 Who believes such a fake number? Maybe, even if Chinese, they understand the meaning of the number. I named the number Chinese number since Chinese always say a big number, so I am laughing.
Atomic bomb is true, but nanking is fake. As I said before, Hiroshima has name lists for dead person. But nanking doesnt have. This is the truth of "fake of nanking".
supertoshios 1 year ago
@supertoshios I can say those Hiroshima no. are fake as well. Obviously, those lists are made by the japanese govt. I have taken world history in the US from high school to college. It matches the chinese version. Have you study that part of the history anywhere other that japan? And the chinese version is recognized by almost all nations in the world. You can deny the history all day till Friday and stay in your own little fantasy.
accord03 1 year ago
@accord03 So, I have to say that please show me the evidence. I have never seen it, which represents memo of soldiers or bones of 300,000 death. That is all.
supertoshios 1 year ago
@supertoshios Everyone have made mistakes, civilizations do that as well. The war was over more than 50yrs ago. How come some people just wont learn from the history. Wars are bad, and not learning from wars is the worst. Japan lost the war, its the fact that no one can change, and why dont you just take it like a man instead of acting like a little kid whining for attention. Do you wanna another war with the US?
accord03 1 year ago
@accord03
(Part5)the reason why they have used to testify the massacre as if they have actually eye-witnessed it, is due to the social background that
they had been impressed on their mind with the historical view originated in such peculiar war culture of China.
Please watch this.
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yahoo![ The Alleged 'Nanking Massacre' 再審「南京大虐殺」 ]
kaito8209 1 year ago
@accord03
(Part4) On the other hand, we should focus our attentions to the peculiar war culture of China, the so-called Slaughtering the castle (屠城.) 'What 'Slaughtering the castle' means is that 'at the time when the castle falls after having resisted following the enemy's advice for surrender, not only the warriors but also every citizen will be exterminated. While the Prosecution's Chinese witnesses have never eye-witnessed the massacre,
kaito8209 1 year ago
@accord03
(Part3) not letting the Japanese Army take advantage of them.
On December 9, at noon, the Japanese Army scattered 'Bills advising surrender of the Chinese Army' from the plane in order to avoid unnecessary victims.From the Japanese historical point of view, when Japanese fought against enemy, they decided a battle area for war, which was called 合戦 in Japanese. Japanese samurai (warriors) always avoided that embroil innocent citizens in their war.
kaito8209 1 year ago
@accord03
(Part2)Von Falkenhausen, the chief of the Military Advising Group of Germany, agreed to their opinions. But, Chiang Kai-Shek insisted on defending the city. Chiang Kai-Shek appointed Tang Sheng-zhi as the commander-in-chief of the Nanking Garrison (Nanking Defense Force), and ordered him to reinforce the wall and destroy citizen's properties outside the wall as the Chinese traditional tactics of the 'Scorched-earth policy'(堅壁清野作戦),
kaito8209 1 year ago
@accord03
(Part1)The city of Nanking then was a castle city, surrounded by the rampart of 12 meters high, and of 6 to 12 meters thick, and occupied the total area of about 35 square kilometers. On November 14 and 15, the KMT held an opinion conference and discussed whether they should defend the city, or abandon the city and fight in another place. At the conference, the majority expressed their opinions to abandon the city.
kaito8209 1 year ago
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@accord03 I wonder Chinese dont learn anything from history. Chinese is doing the same thing of old Japan armies which you said. They raped Tibet & Uyghur, are invading to other countries, hide own massacre like 64 Tiananmen Square Incidents like that.
supertoshios 1 year ago
@supertoshios Well, wanna see evidence? Then go to China. I was there and everything they show matches what we teach in the US. Have you been to Tibet? Have you seen any bones from Tibet?? LOL I doubt that if you have. You are just prejudice against the Chinese. Please dont just take everything they show you in Japan. Go travel around, and you will discover a different world.
accord03 1 year ago 3
@accord03 I dont have to go to China since nangking massacre is fake. Matches? Ha ha ha, your eyes are like blind.
About Tibet massacre, you can find out a lot of cruel videos in YouTube, Chinese killed Tibetan like a dog in Himalaya Mt, etc.
The truth is out there, accord03.
supertoshios 1 year ago
@supertoshios Oh, ok have fun watching videos on youtube and I really hope that the history will change for you...lol. You are so pathetic, simply, your perspective about the world is formed by videos on youtube. LOL. That's right, the truth is out there, but the problem is...you've NEVER been out there!!! lol.
accord03 1 year ago
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I watched the video. I dont deny some illegal acts to Chinese soldiers. That was war. War w/o kill is not war. My opinion is that the total number of dead Chinese can be estimated under 50000.
But, 300000 is absolutely fake, drbuddha.
supertoshios 1 year ago
According to the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, the total number of civilians and prisoners of war murdered in Nanking and its vicinity during the first six weeks of the Japanese occupation was over 200,000. These estimates are borne out by the figures of burial societies and other organizations, which testify to over 155,000 buried bodies. These figures do not take into account those persons whose bodies were destroyed by burning, drowning, or other means.
accord03 1 year ago
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@accord03 Ha ha, I have never seen such a fantastic evidence. Please show me 155000 bones, and verify using DNA tests. In Hiroshima, we have the list of name who were killed by atomic bomb of USA. If you say so, plaese show me the lists of name, which lists the name of dead person. I have never seen such lists. Even nanking fake musium, they dont have the lists, lol.
Fake is fake, accord03. I have a right to say the objections.
supertoshios 1 year ago
@supertoshios According to the verdict of the Nanjing War Crimes Tribunal on 10 March 1947, there are "more than 190,000 mass slaughtered civilians and Chinese soldiers killed by machine gun by the Japanese army, whose corpses have been burned to destroy proof. Besides, we count more than 150,000 victims of barbarian acts buried by the charity organizations. We thus have a total of more than 300,000 victims." How the hell did you come up with your god damn 50000??
accord03 1 year ago
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(Part2)a photo has displayed at the Nanking Massacre Museum. The caption said, "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of them were gang raped or forced into military prostitution. But this photo appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on Nov 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle. The explanation says, "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers."
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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(Part1)Photographs purported to be evidence of a massacre in Nanking are on display at the Nanjing Massacre Memorial Hall, at other exhibitions, and in printed publications. However, Analyzing Photographic Evidence of the Nanking Massacre by Higashinakano Shudo (Soshisha, 2005) and other recent scientific research reveal that there are no photographs attesting to a massacre in Nanking. At least 143 pictures are distorted by Chinese government. For example,
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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(Part2) About 35 foreign journalists and diplomats attended there. However, Chinese didnt explain the fact which was so-called the Nanking Massacre even once during any of these 300 conferences was a statement or announcement.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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(Part1)In Nov. 1937, during the Battle of Nanking, the Nationalist Party established The International Propaganda Section (IPS). According to the top-secret document entitled Outline of International Propaganda Operations, the IPS held 300 press conferences in Hankou between Dec 1, 1937 and Oct 24, 1938.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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南京が支那のでっちあげであり、日本から莫大な謝罪金をせしめ取る格好の
えじきとなっております。
もう、いい加減にきづきましょうよ、日本人。支那人はチョン公と同じく
息を吸ってうそをはく連中ですよ。
natu3791 1 year ago
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The Chinese guerrilla army of 2000 people wore the service uniform of Japan.
This is a faked photo.
Sorokini376k 1 year ago
the many fake photos are from the weekly magazine : asahi kamera in Japan.
meisyoukaizi 1 year ago
american [ Fling tigers ] had attacked to Japanese army before Pearl Harbor . you propaganda racists tell lies like breathing." 1日前
meisyoukaizi 1 year ago
@meisyoukaizi The Flying Tigers attacked you first because you are killing innocent Chinese people. And what you saying are does not justify your cowardly attack on PH. I couldn't help but to feel sorry that you are brainwashed like your ancestors by those crazy, shameless militarists. Understand this: Truth stands on its own and cannot be changed.
ActaNonVerba90 1 year ago
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(Part3)Among the records in the aforementioned Documents of the Safety Zone are detailed complaints about misconduct attributed to Japanese military personnel. They include a total of 26 murders, only one of which was witnessed (to that account is appended a note describing the murder as a lawful execution). Also, recent research has proven that there is absolutely no basis for the claim that there was a massacre in that city. How does China claim that 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Well, 300,000 people just don't disappear. During wartime, records cannot be complete. The account shows such a small number because the safety zone was understaffed and many victims are not able to report the atrocities. The population statistic before Japanese occupation does not include the refugees who have retreated to the city and the military personnels (who later became POWs).
ActaNonVerba90 1 year ago
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part1)EX-CHINESE OFFICERS AMONG U.S. REFUGEES Colonel and His Aides Admit Blaming the Japanese for Crimes in Nanking New York Times January 4, 1938
Wireless to the New York Times. SHANGHAI, Jan. 3. American professors remaining at Ginling College in Nanking as foreign members of the Refugee Welfare Committee were seriously embarrassed to discover that they had been harboring a deserted Chinese Army colonel and six of his subordinate officers.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach You should respect history, admit to your crimes and stop distorting the facts. Look at the Germans, they have apologized for their crimes during WWII and today we all respected them. There's nothing wrong to admit your wrongs, but it is outrages for trying to hide them.
ActaNonVerba90 1 year ago
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part2)The professors had, in fact, made the colonel second in authority at the refugee camp. The officers, who had doffed their uniforms during the Chinese retreat from Nanking, were discovered living in one of the college buildings: They confessed their identity after Japanese Army searchers found they had hidden six rifles, five revolvers, a dismounted machine gun and ammunition in the building.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part3)The ex-Chinese officers in the presence of Americans and other foreigners confessed looting in Nanking and also that one night they dragged girls into the darkness and the next day blamed Japanese soldiers for the attacks. The ex-officers were arrested and will be punished under martial law and probably executed.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Still, that Chinese colonel, if he really existed, is a shame for the Chinese people. I admit that such crimes were also commited by the retreating former bandits/corrupted elements in the Chinese forces. Still, such cases (only a few) do not give you the excuses or an alternative explanation of the real face of the Nanking massacre. Otherwise, why isn't here many accusations on the Chinese forces by the citizens of Nanking?
ActaNonVerba90 1 year ago
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@undertakerRach You are always right, Rach. Please teach to ActaNonVerba90 the truth.
toshios2010 1 year ago
@undertakerRach If the Chinese army is actually the one responsible for the rampage, it could not be hidden and the survivors would point them out. Just think about it, if the Jap army was really being nice to the citizens, why would they accuse the Japs? Why isn't here a single survivor today to defend the Jap. Think about it. You are concentrating too much on the minority cases and use them to represent the overall data, this is a fallacy which could not stand on its own.
ActaNonVerba90 1 year ago
@ActaNonVerba90 Come to my videos.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Sources: "the Rape of Nanking" by Iris Chang - the film is taken two weeks after the Japanese occupation and the Army is aware of the effect on public opinions, so they cleaned up and made these films by force. I know you are trying to defend your country as everyone would, but denying the truth is simply not acceptable and it adds more sin. There's nothing wrong to admit the wrongs in the past. Earn respect and understanding.
ActaNonVerba90 1 year ago
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part1)One of the Photos displayed at the 'Memorial Hall of Victims in Nanjing Massacre'. It is also displayed in the book The Rape of Nanking. The book states "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of them were gang raped or forced into military prostitution. (Politburo of Military Committee, Taipei)" However, this photo has nothing to do with the gang-rape nor the military prostitution.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part2)This photo has appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on November 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle. A set of four pictures have appeared in the journal with the explanation, titled as "Utopia amidst the Gun-power: The 'Rising Sun' Village South of the Yangtze." The very picture is captioned with "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers."
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part3) Iris Chang used a black pen, and she erased a womans white teeth in the picture. Do you know why? All of women smiled in the picture. After they finished work in the fields and they backed home with Japanese soldiers. They must have been pleasant chat with Japanese. Analyzing Photographic Evidence of the Nanking Massacre by historians and other recent scientific research reveal that there are no photographs attesting to a massacre in Nanking.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part4)You know, at least 143 pictures are distorted by Chinese government.
You said Iris Chang had tried to generalize this as the act against humanity before she died. I dont think so. There is no doubt that Iris Chang spread out wrong history which was the Nanking Massacre. This is one of the crimes malicious slanders.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach The "evidence" you provided seemed to be persuasive. However, as you accuse the Chinese faking the photos etc, the Japanese could also make fake films and evidence. And look where all your evidence and theory come from, the Japanese government: I can't help but to question the validity of those evidence too. Think about it. And many of the evidence which proves the Nanking massacre are provided by third party foreigners.
ActaNonVerba90 1 year ago
@undertakerRach Also, a German Nazi, John Rabe, was one of the few foreigners stayed in Nanking. If you can, check on his accounts (diary). If the Japanese are really as good as they claimed, then why would he say things he said? Why would he risk himself to the Gestapos? And the cruelty by Jap soldiers during WWII is a world wide phenomenon.
ActaNonVerba90 1 year ago
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@ActaNonVerba90 (Part1)Hitler and the Nanking Massacre Exposed in Rabes Diary
Iris Changs The Rape of Nanking and Rabes diary (John Rabe was a German member of the Safety Zone Committee in Nanking when Japan attacked KMT military) were published in 1997. They were jointly intended to diminish Europeans from war crimes thereby obtaining wider support for Chinese accusations of Japanese crimes.
undertakerRach 1 year ago