The Iceman Tapes: Conversations With a Killer Part 4

[GoodIdeasForBusiness]

When I saw the psychiatrist it spun me out, his voice sounds a lot younger but he looks old. Kuklinski was pretty much what you would call "pathological" He feels no remorse what so ever, this is as the videos mentioned due to his anti social behaviorism due to be neglected as a kid.

[lindleyman12]

kuklinski is the scariest mass murderer of all time... everything from his mouth being stuck in a constant sneer to how coldly he talks about random killings.... i would not want to run into this guy on the street....

[neoman121]

This is so sad on so many levels...

[sabertoothtiger91]

This guy is awesome. 

[HappyBirthdaySANTA]

this dude just needed a hug and some love as a kid... the lack of love left this man determined to be void of all emotional feelings.. he used killing as a form of suppression, a blockage to stop the need for love.....

[moppesmuziek]

Dietz is also a guy i would NOT trust..the way he talks to him "i told you you had a sence of humor"..and the way he laughs together with Kuklinski is disturbing.

[jlcelrey101]

@moppesmuziek to be a psychiatrist you need to be somewhat crazy yourself, don't you? I'm not trying to justify his way of being by the way... just trying to make a point

[Valtior]

The interaction between these two is really great, really interesting. Dietz is talking to him as an equal, like a guy who is just curious about a few things Kuklinski has done, is the best thing. He isn't scared, he didn't back down when Kuklinski told him he had made him mad, he just questioned him further. And you can tell Kuklinski is interested in what Dietz has to say; the little twitches and hesitation when he asks what he thinks, the nervous little laugh when he gives his response.

[inyourfacedouchebag]

im comming across like a nice guy ROTF LMAO



[sidnomis1]

@inyourfacedouchebag how did you type this while you were rolling on the floor?

[MrAviatran]

You have to come up in a voilent household to understand were Richard Kuklinski evolved from.wHEN YOU LIVE THE FIRST 12 YEARS OF YOUR LIFE WITH FEAR AND VOILENCE..YOUR BRAIN CAN SWITCH OFF TO CERTAIN ASPECTS OF YOUR EMOTIONS JUST TO LOOK NORMAL TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD...I KNOW THIS,,,EVEN THOUGH I COULDENT KILL SOMEONE

[PartyRepublican]

I think this dude is the most fascinating "killer" ever! Scary!

[wargeoman]

@PartyRepublican I think Dexter is.

[radmilamilinkov]

he has dead eyes.

[Z3koD3vo]

LOL He sounded like a little kid asking this question:

"What do you think...about... me?" LOL Funny guy. :p

[faffaflunkie]

@ladyali100 Many people have these personality attributes. However the vast majority of people with "Narcissistic personality disorder" are harmless to others, if not ultimately to themselves. No, I am not shocked to see that Kuklinski shares a personality trait that is shared by about 75% of the prison population. And no, I am certainly not surprised that Kuklinski can appear as a "nice guy" who says that he "is having too much fun" on camera. This interview is nothing but an empty profile.

[faffaflunkie]

@ladyali100 You'd better learn to work spellcheck before calling people "Ignorant". This has to be one of the worst "psychiatric" interviews that I have ever seen. All this frightened little Doc gets out of Kuklinksi is how he beat his wife and hated his parents. I believe the television audience would be shocked to hear otherwise. It is pretty safe to say that 99 percent of all murderers are spouse beaters and hate their parents.

[faffaflunkie]

@ladyali100 He's about as good at "head-shrinking" as you are at grammar and spelling.

[faffaflunkie]

@ladyali100 I meant the shrink. Kuklinski is playing him like a violin. And you'd shit your pants too if you ever met a thug as vicious as "Iceman".

[SpreadTheWord11]

mickey Rourke is NOT playing as Kuklinski!!!!!! Michael Shannon IS!!!!

[faffaflunkie]

I bet that stupid shrink had to throw out his underwear after this interview.

[Krylogenic]

He treated me and my sisters like we were special and yet I can remember his voice and eyes they were cold even to me as a child and I had a feeling about him that he was a dangerous man, My dads boss said to my dad when we were in the car leaving,"Going somewhere Harry? Nice family you have, it would be a shame if something would happen to them. My dad was killed but we were spared.

[zaccosekk]

Richard kuklinski was good to his family.

[flimflamworkjerk]

"They already hit the stop sign..and that's a dead stop."

[metDavidzelf]

This one stone cold son of a gun...

[savykevin]

at 1:29, check out Barbaras previously broken nose; just like he said, domestic violence unfortunately will never relent.

[hellyea93]

@seekyefirst yeah ok. kuklinski died 6 years ago. maybe you could learn to form a sentence before you talk about how tough you are, oh i'm sorry, your friend is.

[ItsFrankieBoy]

When he was younger he looked like Dom DeLuise. But I doubt he was as funny.

[XWoodchuckleX]

@ItsFrankieBoy No way! lol! Dom DeLuise (lip curl) Richard was actually nice looking.

[scottvska]

The music is annoying. Dietz didn't hear music when he spoke to Kuklinski, why do we have to?

[KUPHSER]

@scottvska hahahaha good call

[ItsDatGirlJordz]

everytime he finishes a sentence he looks at the interviewer and that look wood make me wanna stop the interview and get the hell out of there

[Hatinonthehaters]

didnt even know he died in 06, thought he was still alive.

[levitan71]

i hope they put a part of this interview into the credits of the movie based on him.

[MrBubbaGump69]

hate love not love hate...

[wupass02]

everything he says is like it comes from a badass movie

[RelativistSlayer]

"Domestic Violence is a very serious thing"

He should be a in a public service announcement against Domestic Violence.

like SEE EVEN A MASS MURDERER THINKS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS WRONG!

[XWoodchuckleX]

@RelativistSlayer lol...

[JESSICA132434]

the guy interviewing him talks like a woman lol

[Rajkozuluf]

anyone noticed how the right part of his face is smiling and "I'm a nice person." even his eye has a smile, while the left part is stone cold stare "I'll kill you" look?

[reedeema]

if they make a movie ... they will fuck it up anyway so just let uwe boll make it at least we wont be suprized .....

[PukeMyShit]

2:06 it would HURT him to kill everyone in the room?

[navaar70]

@PukeMyShit "it would HURT him to kill everyone in the room?" seemed an odd remark to me, too. I don't think he would blink an eye if he had to kill everyone there. Or if he just got pissed off badly enough, I think he would with no problem.

[PukeMyShit]

@navaar70 it might have triggered an emotional response... love + fear (for kids) would make him vulnerable so to kill out of his own emotional weakness is what would 'hurt' him, being that all of the murders were either hate/anger, either indifference. or maybe by the time he finished his thought he realized it was a pretty dumb thing to say. "I’d kill anyone"... no shit?

[PukeMyShit]

@navaar70 or maybe it was his ego... "these ppl are giving me all this attention, and I'm telling them that I'd kill them.. not fair"

[danzig159]

@navaar70 he said it "might" hurt him, it "might" upset him - but not much I think

[PukeMyShit]

he's like a perfect father figure, in a healthy way.

[navaar70]

@PukeMyShit No, he wasn't. His children saw him slap the wife around. He also told one of his daughters that is was possible he'd have to kill them all. He loved them, but just couldn't get away from the violence.

[PukeMyShit]

@navaar70 he never physically abused his kids as far as I know, maybe I'm wrong. everyone else, yeah, but not the kids.

[navaar70]

@PukeMyShit Seems I saw an interview with his wife and she said something about getting in between him and the boy.He did favor one of the daughters over the other two children and she is the one he told he might have to kill them all one day. Apparently, the whole family 'walked on eggshells' around him because they never knew what kind of mood he would be in. He said he'd leave the house without a word to anyone and no one dared ask him where he was going. Too afraid of him.

[PukeMyShit]

@navaar70 Maybe he was afraid of someone's revenge upon them.

[Gollumz]

As sick fuck as he was, when speaking about his parents or his children made him nervous, at least a little bit.

[navaar70]

@Gollumz I will always wonder why he didn't kill his father.

[Gjakmarrje]

i dont understand what make he ?

[jessebrito11]

i hate rats

[navaar70]

@jessebrito11 I agree.

[pxbnfreak1]

WHAT A FUCKING LOSER!!!!!!!

[CadeMcArtor10]

@pxbnfreak1 No Way!!! He's the fucking man!!! Killed people for money and slapped his bitch when she didn't act right!!! Too awesome!!!

[vinnynumbnuts]

notice how he suddenly breaks into an emotional mispronunciation of "kids" at 1:27 in his response when he's asked about his being good to his kids. weird but i think the guy really loved his wife and children. sad. i remember a black sabbath song about the devil falling in love with a human being. haunting stuff.

[BearGryllsChills]

@vinnynumbnuts yes its like he says "The kitz" as apposed to the "The kids"

[vinnynumbnuts]

@BearGryllsChills yeah, man. it just showed me that even a so-called monster, who kind of earned the title, has feelings, too--feelings that he can't hide. something like that black sabbath song. like i said, it's sad.

[DREwestcoast]

what i dont understand is how skinny he was at 18-20ish and grown to be so big and strong later on..

[DREwestcoast]

this guy is so badass that no movie should ever be made about it

[xxxxxxxpimptaddyone]

damn, james gandolfini would be great for this role....make an iceman movie

[OneBloodOneGame]

@xxxxxxxpimptaddyone there is actually 2 iceman movies coming out

[rmr355]

@xxxxxxxpimptaddyone they are making an Iceman movie. Its coming out soon. Michael Shannon is playing the Iceman. Looks nothing like him. I agree with Gandolfini.

[YababaVideo]

@xxxxxxxpimptaddyone I agree. They gave the role to Nelson (Michael Shannon) from Broadway Empire.

[39tommyboy]

have ya ever noticed that the government keeps people like him alive in prison and other people who have killed maybe one or two they get rid of??? im guessing its to study them for further on down the road problems with a mass murderer on the loose?????????????????????????­???? thanks.

[nova123]

i can see a mad tv skit with will sasso lol

[Peta659]

HE DOES HAVE ASPD! LOOK IT uP!

[msnikish]

@Peta659 yes hurting cats when he was a boy

[39tommyboy]

have you ever noticed though that some children have the best parents and raisings and still turn out to be bad people when they grow up??? so really just because a child is abused doesnt automatically mean they will turn out to be killers. my father in law always married women who had children and he beat on every one of them. but he still married women with chiildren for some dumb reason. finally his last wife committed suicide from alcohol and pills.

[DeathGenePillow]

@39tommyboy

You're absolutley right man, however, alot of psychological and sociological studies have shown that children who have poor/abusive relationships with their parental figures tend to develop issues later in life, although these issues can mean much more than them developing into killers, e.g. some fail to develop a moral structure, some become incapable of forming proper relationships, some develop mental illnesses or personality disorders etc...and I'm sorry to hear about that

[39tommyboy]

@DeathGenePillow thats pretty good my friend. im almost guessing you have studied these disorders in college??? because you seem intelligent to this. in which i feel that everybody who is going to college should study this man and his life if this is the field they want to do when they get out. not mass murderer. lol but like the doctor there with him i mean. godbless.

[DeathGenePillow]

@39tommyboy I kind of started to study it in my own time, because in the past, I've grappled with mental/emotional problems due to issues in my own life. But then I did study it at college, and I'm now studying it at University. And yeah, I think there should be more case studies into these kind of individuals, although Kuklinski in particular is a fascinating character to me, because I don't believe him to be a psychopath. He shows many characteristics of one, but he deviates drastically.

[DREwestcoast]

@DeathGenePillow I agree, i've read alot about psychopaths and he meets alot of criterias but not quite all of them, so it would make one wonder what this man is all about.

[PukeMyShit]

@DeathGenePillow how does he deviate?

[DeathGenePillow]

@PukeMyShit

He deviates from the diagnosis of psychopath because he displays genuine guilt and remorse for how his line of work affected his family, and how he sometimes behaved towards them. He also expresses sadness when talking about how his daughters were sometimes exposed to aspects of his criminal life. He loved his family, something psychopaths are incapable of doing. He has psychopathic traits and tendencies, but I wouldn't say he is a full blown psychopath.

[thehype04]

@DeathGenePillow spot on ;)

[oxhpagor2]

@DeathGenePillow what u described is a sociopath a sociopath feels no remorse a psychopath does

[Mider999]

They shoulda put this guy to work for the CIA or something to get rid of dictators and stuff

[Redat23]

@Mider999 He was murdered in 2006

[Mattykcanoetrippin]

@Redat23 he died of natural causes in prison , he was not murdered

[Redat23]

@Mattykcanoetrippin There's been alot of speculation over that. He was due to appear in court to give evidence over a suspected member of the mafia. I reckon he was poisoned.

[BertyRussell]

Glad Richard set the Doctor straight on the seriousness of domestic violence

[xburk]

he seems pretty intelligent

[Mider999]

@xburk He probably coulda been someone great in life if he hadnt had sucha shitty family........i hate fucked up parents they should rot in a hole in the ground with rats.............

[lukeandsyd]

Michael Shannon is supposed to play him now. I think he's a better choice.

[donksyjohn]

He is the most likeable guy at the same time as being the most terrifying man I have ever looked at.

[TekRizzy]

I just might have a question for ya...

Hmm hmm hmmm hmmm

[merlak123]

This guy is crazy XD

[JimmyHook]

Looking forward to Mickey Rourke playing Kuklinski!

[Khaos969]

@JimmyHook hope he does a good job!

[Mider999]

@JimmyHook When's that?

[JimmyHook]

@Mider999 As I understand it, a biopic starring Mickey Rourke as Kuklinski was supposed to have started filming this past spring. Supposedly, Rourke said this role would be his "Raging Bull." YouTube won't let you post links, so please Google "Mickey Rourke" and "Kuklinski" for more info. Alas, I don't see any reference to it on IMDB, so I hope the project is still a go.

[mrcharles007]

@JimmyHook mickey rourke during a movie about this guy?

[JimmyHook]

@mrcharles007 He was supposed to, and it was announced, but it looks like it was supposed to start filming last spring, and didn't. So I don't know what's up with it now. Hope it still happens!

[CrownOfTheTown]

@JimmyHook WHAT?! is there a movie being made???? :O

[JimmyHook]

@CrownOfTheTown There was supposed to be--Google Mickey Rourke and Kuklinski--they had a press release about it. The only thing is, it was supposed to start shooting last spring, and it looks like they haven't got it off the ground yet.

[CrownOfTheTown]

@JimmyHook Darn. Hope they do.

[admiral44]

@JimmyHook is that like a new movie or sumn?

[schmatever]

@JimmyHook I see you left this comment 8 months ago so when is that Mickey Rourke movie happening??

[ParadoxmProductions]

@JimmyHook when did this deal go down? Look at his earlier snap shots, you would need several different actors, and James Gandolfifni would be ideal for the eighties Kukliski.

[ParadoxmProductions]

@JimmyHook when did this deal go down? Look at his earlier snap shots, you would need several different actors, and James Gandolfifni would be ideal for the eighties Kukliski. Nicholson in some respects but Rourke not a chance too unbeleivable

[hellyea93]

@JimmyHook mickey rourke doesn't have anything on richard. mickey's a joke.

[TheProgressistViewer]

@JimmyHook It's gonna be fucking awesome

[blacknailsredwine]

@TheProgressistViewer Is it happening or do you guys just wish it would happen?

[TheProgressistViewer]

@blacknailsredwine Two movies about Kuklinski are in the making, one of them with Rourke, and Del Toro playing Demeo

[blacknailsredwine]

@TheProgressistViewer Excellent!!

[TheProgressistViewer]

@blacknailsredwine Yea, if well directed it should be a pretty neat movie.

[bondservant4Him]

interviewer  shouldnt look at him that way LMAOOO!

[massivegunz]

my idol

[fueledbymusic3]

Hes FUNNY at times! hehe

[msnikish]

@fueledbymusic3 ya a real laugh riot this guy is

[Khaos969]

LOL