Charlotte Church- She Moved Thru the Fair

[neilymc89]

Sinead O Connor's version sounds better

[MrMackayayeaye]

nice try but Moirra Kerr and All about Eve own this classic x

[stiffex]

I totally appreciate where your coming from and i have to appreciate the ease with which JM seamlessly fuses classical and folk but his vocal style is far from simple, i have to disagree there.

With a lot of Irish folk & especially in this case folk "Standards" are used where the same tune is speeded up or slowed down or accented differently so with a well covered ballad like this the performer has to leave their stamp & impact on the song & listener or it ends up bland im prepared to say draw.

[5blackbeetles]

Joe Brown... look for his version... no need to say any more

[DubSun33]

Another of the "ten-a-penny" versions of this beautiful song. It's an exercise in hitting the right notes in a restrained/haunting/emotionles­s voice. I ask myself what is the point. She, and these versions are usually sung by women though not exclusively, may as well be singing the phone book. I'm sure she would get the same response. "My cat she is hungry, I must get out a tin,

But she dosen't like beef and that's all I have in,

I'll go straight to the market, some tuna to buy

La la etc.

[stiffex]

@DubSun33 Charlotte Church is Welsh and the Welsh are born singing. Our Charlotte is a highly skilled naturally talented girl whose virtuosity of vocal range is unmatched by ordinary mortals. I agree that this haunting song is made to look so effortless by Charlotte even as she warbles it to absolute perfection we know that she can set the standard even higher because she oozes natural creativity...

[RimRodXS2000]

@stiffex

Well I must admit that on listening to this version of the song once more, I was forced to reconsider the opinion expressed all those months ago. Far from an "exercise in hitting the right notes" etc, Church's version was perfect. Perfect for daytime tv. It's truly shit, offensive even, and she dosen't even hit all the right notes. But well done with the national stereotypes stiffy.

[stiffex]

@RimRodXS2000 I agree with you its not the best she can do and it lacks the proper level of emotion to perform it leaving the impact its supposed to but when you say its shit that just lets me know that you have no appreciation of tone and vocal quality; Charlotte is an internationally respected opera singer and has such control over her vocal range that she can sing anything, she doesnt make mistakes it was the style and tempo that made it bland. Ann Briggs is the pedestal...

[RimRodXS2000]

@stiffex

Nothing personal against her or indeed the Welsh people, but I think is she is neither an internationally respected opera singer or capable of doing justice to this song. She's a 'celebrity' who will sing pretty much anything her management tell her to sing, even when hopelessly ill-prepared. 

And the original point I made was that, most singers today who have a go at these classic ballads do so thinking they have to embellish them with vocal curls. thereby losing the ....

[RimRodXS2000]

@stiffex

....emotional impact of a simple song. I don't know much about Briggs other than what wikipedia tells me, and having listened to her version of She Moved, unfortunetly she too fails to appreciate the simplicity of the song. I know she was involved in reviving the folk tradition, and perhaps that excuses her unnecessary embellishments.

My nomination for the stand out version of this song is John McCormack's, so beautifully accompanied as it is. To hell with daytime tv.

[stiffex]

@RimRodXS2000 The earliest folk particularly Irish was done unaccompanied so the voice has 2 jobs to do to create the desired effect so drones and yodels are added. The earliest instruments of folk in these Isles were pipes so the drones may have come later as a way of implying the pipes and this was the type of unaccompanied tradition that Ann Briggs was trying to revive. I have to still say AB for her archetypical Celtic sound while JM sounds too colloquial but is still a gr8 1

[RimRodXS2000]

@stiffex

Points taken re accompaniment, but regards the vocal curls I think you have to match the effects to the song, otherwise the singer risks lightening the 'correct' sombre mood. After all this song is all about loss. As for JM's version being too colloquial, I believe this rendition travels very well, and the piano is so sensitive to the vocals. It's the only version I've ever heard that emphasises the narrative while allowing appreciation of the delivery.

[flowersings]

To Solariis888 I've been thinking about this argument and I don't like the kind of person I'm becoming. So for what it's worth, I apologize. No, it's not because of your harassment threat, it's because I'm a Christian and I sure have not been acting like it. I should not be engaging in such ridiculous arguments and my reply should have been civil even if yours was not. I need to raise above such things.

[solariis888]

@flowersings bitch, don't flatter yourself. and you have been reported so keep it up skank.

[flowersings]

@solariis888 What is your problem? Didn't you read this apology? What kind of person are you? I've been thinking about this argument and I don't like the kind of person I'm becoming. So for what it's worth, I apologize. No, it's not because of your harassment threat, it's because I'm a Christian and I sure have not been acting like it. I should not be engaging in such ridiculous arguments and my reply should have been civil even if yours was not. I need to raise above such things.

[flowersings]

@solariis888 You Tube has already acted upon your harassment report by blocking me from your channel. So this should satisfy you. I refuse to engage in any more nastiness or reply to you again. I might report you as well if you keep replying to me for apologizing. I have said nothing negative since my apology and I would appreciate no more replies because you tube is not going to remove my account and these replies are fruitless. BE KIND.

[solariis888]

@flowersings Fuck you whore, I didn't threaten your silly, stupid ass. You question my intelligence and insult me over and over again and then accuse me of making threats.... I don't need to threaten your insignificant, pathetic, worthless ass... go to hell.

[solariis888]

@flowersings and youtube will act when you get a bad standing on your account.

[MarcfromTreasureNet1]

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[solariis888]

@MarcfromTreasureNet1 My spirit is greater than anyone you ever heard of fool. Now go tell your mother I'll see her later.

[MarcfromTreasureNet1]

@solariis888 I have reported you for being a pedo!

[solariis888]

@MarcfromTreasureNet1 I reported you for a goat raper.

[solariis888]

@flowersings That's funny, you know more about music... lol I've been playing Spanish guitar for 20 years, probably longer than you've been alive you little skank.

[flowersings]

Breathy and flat!!!

[solariis888]

@flowersings Its supposed to be breathy idiot, tis a Gaelic song. Irish.

[solariis888]

@flowersings The song is a Gaelic song, who is the idiot... you are moron... shut the hell up.

[solariis888]

@flowersings My IQ is over 200 you stupid fuckin whore, I am Grand Master in chess and I regularly beat programs... as for culture, I have more in my pinky than you will ever imagine.... amoeba... Go to hell you fuckin whore and take your whole family with you.

[solariis888]

@flowersings This bitch thinks she goes to Julliard. I have friends who went to Julliard bitch so just die your worthless death.

[solariis888]

@flowersings I don't think anything whore, I know... Now I'm going to destroy you and you're pathetic grasp of music you evil little bitch. Stop talking about amoebas you little idiot, you sound like a fuckin ignorant whore. You are no prodigy, nor do you go to Julliard even... I'm going to send you to hell where you belong whore.

[solariis888]

@flowersings By the way, I'm reporting you for harassment, keep it up you little idiot and you're account will be closed.

[jaehill13]

Everyone's a critic.

Get over your Lost-In-YouTube, all-important selves and get a life.

Or at least get the point! Ha! Fat chance, you.

Good grief, nobody gives a rat's about your or my opinion.

Sit in the shadows of your own obscurity and criticize artists who actually do well in life.

Next thing, you'll be correcting my spelling.

Ever try and see the good in something?

Wow. Sad to be any one of you.

Have a beautiful day.

[Lisnageeragh]

@londonirish88 The problem is that most classical players re unable to apply their training to other music types ...they have a good harmonic sense but often their sense of sublety and colouring in the melodic dimension is not great and lacks flexibility.

[lazlolazlolazlo]

Flat!

[flowersings]

@lazlolazlolazlo Agreed!!

[gamemoviemakers]

WHAT HE HELL

listen to meav's version, she's like singing pop or sommat

[Jekkize]

Classical? She does not sound operatic at all. She sounds more pop than anything else here...

I DO prefer the traditional way the song is sung to this...

however, I think her voice is soft and lovely - angelic. :)

[jsilence418]

Not on this tune.

[jsilence418]

She has Mickey Mouse ears !!

[irisheyesproductions]

Yes, but she has an angel's voice :)

[jsilence418]

This song was done to perfection by ANNE BRIGGS, who as far as I know has nothing against the firemen killed in the world trade center towers !

[henrymadman14]

I rather like it , but then again i'm English.....I'm sure if I look closley at my family tree I could associate myself with any one of the British I

sles

[supershep55]

this is what happens when a welsh singer trys a trad song!!!!!!

[LaerdBryn]

Voice is okay, but watching her is painful.

It's the mouth. To me she looks like she is getting ready to drool and working not to. The tremble that she does a lot is distracting. Is her jaw tense, too loose, or is she just not yet, when this video was made, not polished. Gosh knows, she's paid enough so that the little girl affectations should be gone by this time. However much else is going on, she's easy to listen to.

[wwbrittany]

She sung more pop style here. Which still sounds very good.

[OneBigRetard]

This sucks ass. Terrible version. Man, classically trained people are useless.

[LaerdBryn]

Try another approach. Classically trained peolple can do a lot of good stuff. However, sometimes they overstep their boundaries when they haven't a clue about style or they are too formal. Classical training just means training, training and more training. There are lousy pop stars and rock stars who could stand to have their skills honed, too - but, I do agree; sometimes classical types just don't get it concerning other styles of music.

[OneBigRetard]

I was being hyperbolic. I apologies. But I feel improv and personal sincerity suffer through the limits of that approach. Jazz jazz jazz.

[LaerdBryn]

I agree totally here. The freedom of improv and just letting go probably makes for the greatest of communication. That's jazz. The vocal and instrumental qualities are different. Probably wouldn't work too well with Verdi or Beethoven without a good deal of rehearsal and rewrites. Ha,ha. Oxymoran time. I don't think C. Church could do improv at this point. She does what she does adequately. Give me acoustic live (with at least SOME melody).

[LailaRaqs]

You're mistaken if you think she had any decent classical training in the first place.

[cinestar2]

enchanting and kind of irritating

[prospero707]

Beautiful voice, but the phrasing is way off.

And for heavens sake why does she sing "she WENT though the fair?".

The guy with the harp doesn't improve things either....

[segal173]

she would get it