@13justin666 ok first thing don't hate me cuz my name.secondly my very best friend happens to be emo and I am goth.and thirdly what the fuck are you talking about!?!?!? Your being really stupid and the book is the best thing I ever bought! So take that dumb ass!
Well I already despise you because of your contradicting username which you're probably unaware of apparently. You can't be emo and goth
For one thing emo is gone
Its become a fad and are all scene kids now
Plus any real goth fucking hates emo kids since they pretty much ruined music and clothing stores and replaced it with a bull shitty version of what once was goth
Ok video
Though I don't think a goth should take advice from anything but themselves
I love Jilian!I want my mom to get me this book so bad!I'm glad that my mom accepts me loving black and being goth and just being who I am.I discovered the gothic culture a couple years ago and for me it started with this book about this goth girl who is an outcast in her town since she was born and she meets this new goth guy that moves in and it's a series that I recamend.it's called vampire kisses.Anyway since then I got so interested that I've become a goth and will never go bak!
I need to get that book for my mother. She doesn't understand the Goth style, or anything so i think it would help her accept that i love the Goth Life Style and why i'm apart of it.
i act the same with every one goth or not you still are a person, if ur a duch i will try my best to ignore u, if you mess with me i will try to kick your ass. and if your nice i will be nice too.
I'm not trying to offend you, I'm merely speaking my mind. All your videos are speaking to the outside world about what a goth likes or how to be a goth or how to talk to a goth ect. when in reality, they are very trivial; pointless. When you're goth, you can't hide from it - it's just who you are. People don't need to be tought how to be goth. You're sticking a huge label on yourself and we all very well understand - you are goth.
@CarrionMacabreDeath actually, i have come across some emo kids that do not want to be emo but want to be goth, and some want to know about it im my eyes makes it easier for them to perpetrate it better , posers are always going to be posers, we used to call them trendys in the 80's
@4evrpeace1 Honey, that's called 'YOU' - don't feel like ya gotta label your style. Just roll with it! I say, if people wanna think I'm goth - they can. If people don't think I'm goth - that's nice. What's important is that I see the beauty in darkness. I'd have to call myself a Cloth, because I like to mix in color, or a Both because I prefer dark blues. That would just get all confusing! :)
Not all devil worshippers, not all depressed, yes, yes, yes, not all witches, not all vampires, also, not all death-obsessed, and BTW I don't understand what is meant by 'types of goth' -types? As in personality or style?
i would not consider this book as more than the vampire codex for goths . anyone can push common sense and sell it. check out Voltaire goth book.the beginnings are different for allot of us who are the ones who paved the way for the kids. so i find it hard to see it as the same thing. when it was music, the cure didn't look that way in the beginning , ministry was not the same, we didnt have Not Gothic to shop at. we made our own clothes this is like the goth walk through the snow ogs
WHOA!! Guys! Goth is a mindset of loving darker things and seeing beauty in melancholy and darkness. The music and fashion came WAAY after! Gothic existed before post punk, in the 1900's when the architecture set a certain dark mood to inspire the literature like dracula and frankenstein. It's a mind set and the outside appearances and music taste comes in afterwards. people who base it on the fashion and music and "the scene" are probably just in it as a phase and arent truly attached to it :/
@OhMyGodJane Back a few centuaries. Gothic literature was 1800s, and the achitecture was medieval (1600s type time era) Goth is one of, if not the, oldest sub-cultures around
and by the way the music,clothes,makeup does not make you who you are.what makes up a person is their carecter their personality who they represent themself as to others .
The Goth culture first came from the fashion and music then is became a real culture it was something new but now we have many types of Goth and basically we are a big joke a horrible punch line to not only the media but to the rest of society .People look at the stereotypes and say yes thats Goth and everyone goes with it .WE shouldn't knock baby bats we were lost and misguided made mistakes to and eventually we grew out of that.
I feel the book is geared towards "baby bats" and 11 year olds who want to wear their capes to school(this is seriously been asked by a fan of hers). The book honestly offers nothing for a person who has been apart of the subculture for a while now. I'm sure it can be a interesting read if I were new to the subculture but you can honestly find most of what she speaks about in her book on her website. It's almost exactly copy and pasted.
@BatcaveFan I don't believe that she was any of those things, however I do believe that she is misguided, and thinks she needs a Coven in order to be interested in a darker aesthetic or mindset, which she does not, She says "goth " 1000 times, I always though people where posers when they had to state what it was they where into numerous times, also her look is rather outdated(as is many goths) I've updated, however most seem to be stuck in the past and not the beautiful nightshade colored one
@BatcaveFan she constantly talks about baby bats yet shes the biggest one, but to me fashion and music defines no one, it's rather superficial.....which wasn't that the purpose of what the "subculture" tried avoid???
I only comment on these videos because I dislike people being terribly misguided and lacking a middle ground in terms of perspective, life is neither BLACK nor WHITE, I feels she's trying very hard to fit into a box neatly
@bluBlaq33 then don't comment, period, you're being rude, and annoying. Some people do find these videos, and the book gothic charm school helpful. Unlike the rude elder goths who just yell at me when I walk around in the nice cloths I have, which just happen to be black, these people are trying to help.
The book was pretty useless....and full of all the most common misconceptions about the subculture....i would suggest skimming it at the bookstore for entertainment.
I have that book I haven;'t read all of it but the part I read is a good book and i llove your gothic attire I am gothic myself keep doing what you doing.
It was a nice read, but it got too repetitive after a while. Definitely a "need to read" guide for those who AREN'T goth to better understand the culture.
I've been following her website for a few years now and a lot of her older posts are in the book. I bought the book as soon as it came out and loved it. If you like the book, you should also check out her website and live journal. Mrs. Venters also has four youtube videos and is planning to make more.
I am so glad you enjoyed it. I found her website a couple years ago and got the book as soon as it was released. It is so good and Jillian is one of my personal heros :)
@13justin666 ok first thing don't hate me cuz my name.secondly my very best friend happens to be emo and I am goth.and thirdly what the fuck are you talking about!?!?!? Your being really stupid and the book is the best thing I ever bought! So take that dumb ass!
blackemogothgirl666 2 days ago
@blackemogothgirl666
Well I already despise you because of your contradicting username which you're probably unaware of apparently. You can't be emo and goth
For one thing emo is gone
Its become a fad and are all scene kids now
Plus any real goth fucking hates emo kids since they pretty much ruined music and clothing stores and replaced it with a bull shitty version of what once was goth
Ok video
Though I don't think a goth should take advice from anything but themselves
Not a book
13justin666 5 days ago
I love Jilian!I want my mom to get me this book so bad!I'm glad that my mom accepts me loving black and being goth and just being who I am.I discovered the gothic culture a couple years ago and for me it started with this book about this goth girl who is an outcast in her town since she was born and she meets this new goth guy that moves in and it's a series that I recamend.it's called vampire kisses.Anyway since then I got so interested that I've become a goth and will never go bak!
blackemogothgirl666 1 month ago
I loves Jilian
demonicazazel 1 month ago
I need to get that book for my mother. She doesn't understand the Goth style, or anything so i think it would help her accept that i love the Goth Life Style and why i'm apart of it.
ValentineBlood101 1 month ago
my mom got this book for me It's my second bible :)
randomnchan15 2 months ago
i act the same with every one goth or not you still are a person, if ur a duch i will try my best to ignore u, if you mess with me i will try to kick your ass. and if your nice i will be nice too.
SoulQuencher83 2 months ago
Your Really Pretty O.O<3 Wow <3
MissGorgeousZombie 3 months ago
Sesbastian,
I'm not trying to offend you, I'm merely speaking my mind. All your videos are speaking to the outside world about what a goth likes or how to be a goth or how to talk to a goth ect. when in reality, they are very trivial; pointless. When you're goth, you can't hide from it - it's just who you are. People don't need to be tought how to be goth. You're sticking a huge label on yourself and we all very well understand - you are goth.
CarrionMacabreDeath 3 months ago in playlist More videos from SebastianTheGirl
@CarrionMacabreDeath what she's just trying to do is either help the new kids, or explain to adults, got, must everyone complain.
HatterMRULEZ 3 months ago
@CarrionMacabreDeath actually, i have come across some emo kids that do not want to be emo but want to be goth, and some want to know about it im my eyes makes it easier for them to perpetrate it better , posers are always going to be posers, we used to call them trendys in the 80's
D, ,
DSNightwalker 3 months ago
@4evrpeace1 Honey, that's called 'YOU' - don't feel like ya gotta label your style. Just roll with it! I say, if people wanna think I'm goth - they can. If people don't think I'm goth - that's nice. What's important is that I see the beauty in darkness. I'd have to call myself a Cloth, because I like to mix in color, or a Both because I prefer dark blues. That would just get all confusing! :)
AspergirlSithstress 3 months ago
Not all devil worshippers, not all depressed, yes, yes, yes, not all witches, not all vampires, also, not all death-obsessed, and BTW I don't understand what is meant by 'types of goth' -types? As in personality or style?
AspergirlSithstress 3 months ago
@AspergirlSithstress it's just to make it easier for non goths, that and, a lot of other goths tends to group other into stuff too.
HatterMRULEZ 3 months ago
i would not consider this book as more than the vampire codex for goths . anyone can push common sense and sell it. check out Voltaire goth book.the beginnings are different for allot of us who are the ones who paved the way for the kids. so i find it hard to see it as the same thing. when it was music, the cure didn't look that way in the beginning , ministry was not the same, we didnt have Not Gothic to shop at. we made our own clothes this is like the goth walk through the snow ogs
D, ,
DSNightwalker 3 months ago
@DSNightwalker your brilliant
bluBlaq33 3 months ago
@bluBlaq33 Some say it is so, and the funny part my middle name is Sebastian . so it is funny about this girl.
D, ,
DSNightwalker 3 months ago
Jillian Venters is awesome. Sometimes she attends Norwescon in Seattle. I caught her on a goth panel there.
vesperwysteria100 3 months ago
WHOA!! Guys! Goth is a mindset of loving darker things and seeing beauty in melancholy and darkness. The music and fashion came WAAY after! Gothic existed before post punk, in the 1900's when the architecture set a certain dark mood to inspire the literature like dracula and frankenstein. It's a mind set and the outside appearances and music taste comes in afterwards. people who base it on the fashion and music and "the scene" are probably just in it as a phase and arent truly attached to it :/
OhMyGodJane 4 months ago 14
@OhMyGodJane Back a few centuaries. Gothic literature was 1800s, and the achitecture was medieval (1600s type time era) Goth is one of, if not the, oldest sub-cultures around
fyrefairy123 3 months ago
@fyrefairy123 oh gosh thank you dear for correcting me on my dates!! Numbers are my bane ^_^;;
OhMyGodJane 3 months ago
@fyrefairy123 :)
AspergirlSithstress 3 months ago
@OhMyGodJane Very good comment
AspergirlSithstress 3 months ago
@OhMyGodJane Goth is a music based subculture, it came out of the music.
metaldorksforever666 2 months ago
and by the way the music,clothes,makeup does not make you who you are.what makes up a person is their carecter their personality who they represent themself as to others .
TheGotheena1 4 months ago
The Goth culture first came from the fashion and music then is became a real culture it was something new but now we have many types of Goth and basically we are a big joke a horrible punch line to not only the media but to the rest of society .People look at the stereotypes and say yes thats Goth and everyone goes with it .WE shouldn't knock baby bats we were lost and misguided made mistakes to and eventually we grew out of that.
TheGotheena1 4 months ago
I feel the book is geared towards "baby bats" and 11 year olds who want to wear their capes to school(this is seriously been asked by a fan of hers). The book honestly offers nothing for a person who has been apart of the subculture for a while now. I'm sure it can be a interesting read if I were new to the subculture but you can honestly find most of what she speaks about in her book on her website. It's almost exactly copy and pasted.
MissCogs 4 months ago
@BatcaveFan I don't believe that she was any of those things, however I do believe that she is misguided, and thinks she needs a Coven in order to be interested in a darker aesthetic or mindset, which she does not, She says "goth " 1000 times, I always though people where posers when they had to state what it was they where into numerous times, also her look is rather outdated(as is many goths) I've updated, however most seem to be stuck in the past and not the beautiful nightshade colored one
bluBlaq33 4 months ago
@BatcaveFan she constantly talks about baby bats yet shes the biggest one, but to me fashion and music defines no one, it's rather superficial.....which wasn't that the purpose of what the "subculture" tried avoid???
I only comment on these videos because I dislike people being terribly misguided and lacking a middle ground in terms of perspective, life is neither BLACK nor WHITE, I feels she's trying very hard to fit into a box neatly
bluBlaq33 4 months ago 2
@bluBlaq33 then don't comment, period, you're being rude, and annoying. Some people do find these videos, and the book gothic charm school helpful. Unlike the rude elder goths who just yell at me when I walk around in the nice cloths I have, which just happen to be black, these people are trying to help.
HatterMRULEZ 3 months ago
The book was pretty useless....and full of all the most common misconceptions about the subculture....i would suggest skimming it at the bookstore for entertainment.
faeriedragonxx 4 months ago
@faeriedragonxx maybe to you, but to a lot of younger kids getting into goth for the wrong reason, it's helpful.
HatterMRULEZ 3 months ago
@HatterMRULEZ I wouldn't rule out it being potentially somewhat helpful, but totally not the most helpful
faeriedragonxx 3 months ago
I have that book I haven;'t read all of it but the part I read is a good book and i llove your gothic attire I am gothic myself keep doing what you doing.
TheRebelde75 4 months ago
You look crazy familiar! Do you go to QHHS? xD
getaftermebroo 4 months ago 4
@getaftermebroo Yes
SebastianTheGirl 4 months ago 7
You look crazy familiar! Do you go to QHHS? xD
getaftermebroo 4 months ago
I'm gonna buy the book! Thx for the Review. :)
MusicMaryful 4 months ago
Will get b/c of ur comment
Gothdancer67 4 months ago
I'm not a goth but I love the culture and the look. I'd like to read the book just for fun.
LenasLosingSleep 5 months ago
I love this book. I'm a new babybat and the Lady of the manners explains everything greatly.
cheycheystriker 5 months ago 2
kewl! gotta check that out!
reskfwey 5 months ago
hmmm do they sell the book in stores im no good at internet shoping X.X
frightsummers99 5 months ago
I'm going to get this book
MsBAMBOO22 5 months ago
It was a nice read, but it got too repetitive after a while. Definitely a "need to read" guide for those who AREN'T goth to better understand the culture.
SexVampireBite 5 months ago 2
Im a Goth and i will have to get this book thanks alot!
AgothInnCloth 5 months ago
Make a video of your essential top ten goth bands! I've never seen you do a video about music on here.
darklywinter 5 months ago
she rocks awesome lady xoxo
vampressjarat666 5 months ago
Im so glad you added this review, as i only recently heard about this book and i was considering buying it! :)
misslaytone 5 months ago
Please, keep making videos. They're really interesting :)
IrialIray 5 months ago
I've been following her website for a few years now and a lot of her older posts are in the book. I bought the book as soon as it came out and loved it. If you like the book, you should also check out her website and live journal. Mrs. Venters also has four youtube videos and is planning to make more.
BeautyDiva100 5 months ago
Hmm gonna have to get that book seems like a good book
twilightbella7178 5 months ago
Definitely will buy this soon :) thanks for the review
xArcticPrincessx 5 months ago
i love the book :) and the lady who did the book is cool :)
antichristeileen 5 months ago
I have the same bedding.
LizLacerations 5 months ago
i just bought this book yesterday n it was great.
bloodlicks88 5 months ago
wish i could afford it -.- maybe after the weekend i can. been trying to remember to buy it but school books come first.
moldinmyblood 5 months ago
@moldinmyblood try looking for it in pdf's :) you never know
antichristeileen 5 months ago
@antichristeileen i shall do that! :) thanks for the idea
moldinmyblood 5 months ago
@moldinmyblood np :)
antichristeileen 5 months ago
Every Goth...no EVERYONE needs to own that book!
Skaielements 5 months ago
I've been wanting to buy that book since I first heard of it. I NEED THIS BOOK RIGHT NOW!
PsychoticFairy333 5 months ago
that book looks nice. I will buy it
K4RL4yL4UR1 5 months ago
I am so glad you enjoyed it. I found her website a couple years ago and got the book as soon as it was released. It is so good and Jillian is one of my personal heros :)
Saskue101 5 months ago
Thank you for this, I need this book to explain to my family why I am the way I am. (Im 27 with a daughter and they dont get it...after 13 years...)
blackwidowmollie 5 months ago
I loved this book so much! I flew through it! It was great <3
TheNocturneMoon 5 months ago