ohhh ya i hold the lap record in a 1931 model A Ford which has NO POWER lol. happy racing and bad luck on your crash sometimes things happen that are not in your control
EPIC LINE INTO 5 i know you think that its best to follow the track........oh how wrong you all are the line shown here from time index 0.41 to 0.51 is the fastest way to get into turn 5 now i understand that there was a car to his outside, but you would take the corner straight untill you had to turn in to 5 for a great line... if you don't trust me try it out in a practice and see for yourself good racing and note this i am tired of seeing turn 5 buggered up every time
I drive a Formula Vee, if you lift in a corner just like this chap did you buck to the side or swap ends. If you've never driven a Formula car then you have no idea of what it's like. Enjoy the video for what it is.
"Everytime I see a crash, no matter how terrible, I put my foot down... Hard! Because I know everyone will be lifting theirs." -Jean-Pierre Sarti (from Grand Prix 1966)
@MSchumi101 Have to agree with you, John Frankenheimer did an amazing job capturing the feel of motor racing, and bringing it to the big screen in a very compelling fashion. It is a great film by any standard, but definitely the best movie about racing. There is something to be said about Sarti's claim in the film, and having raced long enough now I've seen some bad ones (and been in a couple too, this one was nothing!) In this case if I kept my foot in it, I would have just hit harder!
@polishboy808 Hi, I am the driver in this video. I did not PANIC! I responded to a huge crash unfolding in front of me by rolling out of the throttle. As I saw the to cars touch wheels in the kink at 125-130MPH I had no clue where cars and bits were going to rebound, anybody who would keep their foot flat into that unknown situation is either a FOOL or an IDIOT or BOTH! The result of lifting at turn in was trailing throttle oversteer which made the car half spin.
@TEAMDIOXIDE :hello.I like your style!, is a shame these accidents but this is a high-speed sport. I think the most common reason of accidents is brakes setting, is appropriate to configure a good offset on the brake system so as you can hold the car more stable.. (i have a bad english.)
@TEAMDIOXIDE I think it is staggering how people who have never driven these or any other race car can even think of commenting on reaction in the car. Firstly even though you saw the contact it would have been a fraction later than the camera and the speed at that point or rather momentum is still building so any change of direction is difficult to control. I have raced FF 2000 but had a similar accident at that spot in an S2000, with basically the same result....I thought you did very well..
@sshelton60 Spell Check is two words smart ass... And yes, after I look at this again (10 months later) I do see he didn't hit the brakes. Still, lifting at a high speed kink like that will almost always end that way (Not saying you did the wrong thing, just saying there was nothing you could really do there).
i'm trying to diagnose this crash without experience myself. i know there was a crash happening in front of you but i don't think you would've crashed if you were able to apply more throttle or you breaked during the corner. my experience of driving my rx7 on the road and taking 30 mph corners at 60 tells me, with a rear wheel drive car, applying throttle exiting the corner adds grip. am i correct with any of these guesses?
your assumptions may be true when you are driving pretty far below the limit of grip... however if you are at the limit of grip applying the throttle in a corner only transfers weight to the back of the car, usually overloading the rear tires if you apply it too aggressively. so if anything it is just changing the balance of the car, with the risk of losing grip in the back. less weight on the front tires means less grip up front.
which is kind of funny because how you explained adding throttle is wrong, but in a way it is right. not like legitimately add add throttle, but the reason he spun is because he braked. he braked which transfered weight to the front, giving the front way more grip than the back. he had a bit of steering lock in, which made the car rotate around the front end. if he just coasted instead of braked, he wouldnmt have crashed. adding throttle would mean he would just understeer. no spin
When I saw the video I thought that very same thing. Don't know how he got hit to turn him around, but if he went the other way I would have gotten through the carnage unscathed.
Is that at road america?
DVDFerrari5 2 days ago
ohhh ya i hold the lap record in a 1931 model A Ford which has NO POWER lol. happy racing and bad luck on your crash sometimes things happen that are not in your control
MrAhkmed 1 month ago
EPIC LINE INTO 5 i know you think that its best to follow the track........oh how wrong you all are the line shown here from time index 0.41 to 0.51 is the fastest way to get into turn 5 now i understand that there was a car to his outside, but you would take the corner straight untill you had to turn in to 5 for a great line... if you don't trust me try it out in a practice and see for yourself good racing and note this i am tired of seeing turn 5 buggered up every time
MrAhkmed 1 month ago
I drive a Formula Vee, if you lift in a corner just like this chap did you buck to the side or swap ends. If you've never driven a Formula car then you have no idea of what it's like. Enjoy the video for what it is.
Cre8Thought41 10 months ago
Not saying you did anything wrong,
But one of my favorite racing related quotes,
"Everytime I see a crash, no matter how terrible, I put my foot down... Hard! Because I know everyone will be lifting theirs." -Jean-Pierre Sarti (from Grand Prix 1966)
The Best Racing Movie of all time!
MSchumi101 10 months ago
@MSchumi101 Have to agree with you, John Frankenheimer did an amazing job capturing the feel of motor racing, and bringing it to the big screen in a very compelling fashion. It is a great film by any standard, but definitely the best movie about racing. There is something to be said about Sarti's claim in the film, and having raced long enough now I've seen some bad ones (and been in a couple too, this one was nothing!) In this case if I kept my foot in it, I would have just hit harder!
TEAMDIOXIDE 10 months ago
@MSchumi101 Thats a dam fine tip and as this video proves lifting can be fatal but we live and learn.
Of all the placed for it to happen too, it gets narrow down there with the barriers on each side so cars bounce out onto the track too
MyCosmicPath 3 months ago
Panick is the most common way people crash..... too bad he slammed on the brakes like that.
polishboy808 1 year ago
@polishboy808 Hi, I am the driver in this video. I did not PANIC! I responded to a huge crash unfolding in front of me by rolling out of the throttle. As I saw the to cars touch wheels in the kink at 125-130MPH I had no clue where cars and bits were going to rebound, anybody who would keep their foot flat into that unknown situation is either a FOOL or an IDIOT or BOTH! The result of lifting at turn in was trailing throttle oversteer which made the car half spin.
TEAMDIOXIDE 1 year ago 9
@TEAMDIOXIDE :hello.I like your style!, is a shame these accidents but this is a high-speed sport. I think the most common reason of accidents is brakes setting, is appropriate to configure a good offset on the brake system so as you can hold the car more stable.. (i have a bad english.)
Bye!!
nachokart 1 year ago
@TEAMDIOXIDE I think it is staggering how people who have never driven these or any other race car can even think of commenting on reaction in the car. Firstly even though you saw the contact it would have been a fraction later than the camera and the speed at that point or rather momentum is still building so any change of direction is difficult to control. I have raced FF 2000 but had a similar accident at that spot in an S2000, with basically the same result....I thought you did very well..
mykevb 1 year ago
@polishboy808 Please try SpellCheck next time. (Panick)
sshelton60 11 months ago
@sshelton60 Spell Check is two words smart ass... And yes, after I look at this again (10 months later) I do see he didn't hit the brakes. Still, lifting at a high speed kink like that will almost always end that way (Not saying you did the wrong thing, just saying there was nothing you could really do there).
polishboy808 11 months ago
i'm trying to diagnose this crash without experience myself. i know there was a crash happening in front of you but i don't think you would've crashed if you were able to apply more throttle or you breaked during the corner. my experience of driving my rx7 on the road and taking 30 mph corners at 60 tells me, with a rear wheel drive car, applying throttle exiting the corner adds grip. am i correct with any of these guesses?
thashNMBR1 1 year ago
@thashNMBR1
your assumptions may be true when you are driving pretty far below the limit of grip... however if you are at the limit of grip applying the throttle in a corner only transfers weight to the back of the car, usually overloading the rear tires if you apply it too aggressively. so if anything it is just changing the balance of the car, with the risk of losing grip in the back. less weight on the front tires means less grip up front.
alexellis38 1 year ago
@thashNMBR1
which is kind of funny because how you explained adding throttle is wrong, but in a way it is right. not like legitimately add add throttle, but the reason he spun is because he braked. he braked which transfered weight to the front, giving the front way more grip than the back. he had a bit of steering lock in, which made the car rotate around the front end. if he just coasted instead of braked, he wouldnmt have crashed. adding throttle would mean he would just understeer. no spin
alexellis38 1 year ago
Seems like you got out pretty lucky doesnt seem like much damage to the car but what do i know ive only seen one angle of it, good luck
CRXSI1987 2 years ago
It would have a been a helluva save had the white car not spun in front of you.
billbo48 2 years ago
When I saw the video I thought that very same thing. Don't know how he got hit to turn him around, but if he went the other way I would have gotten through the carnage unscathed.
TEAMDIOXIDE 2 years ago
Lifting in the Kink is a bummer, that guy in the black car owes the rest of you.
gman1868 2 years ago 2
Sure is, but didn't really have a choice, hitting a car rebounding off the outside wall at 130mph would have been much worse.
TEAMDIOXIDE 2 years ago
Your car doesn't look that bad. Was it severely damaged? That was an unfortunate end and early end to the race.
Blackhawk9188 2 years ago
Got off very lucky, a couple of bent wishbones, and some stress cracks in bodywork.
TEAMDIOXIDE 2 years ago