GTST - Ronja and Isabella, Part 12 (with subtitles)

[ingridtijink]

Well to you all then...,

I'm dutch and watched this serie for over a year, and i can tell you it's like: first. Everything is great!

Second. There comes a problem0.0 third. They take 3 episodes to figure things out...

Fourth. Everyone is happy :D

then It al starts over again -.-

It really is a horrible serie, with sometimes a little cute storyline in between

[MrsSp0ck]

Noooo D: i really want to see part 13 :C

[turtle7strong]

ok seriously look pass the fact that its to chicks that are going out and stay with the concept that hey they get each other which is you can clearly see by their first convo.(seriously what person says hey guess what i'm seeing a shrink) you can also see it in the fact isabella want to talk to about her mother with ronja. so the lesbian thing not seeing why it keeps being brought up every three seconds.

Peace

[sarataitcher]

thank u so much fot u vid 5

[detolya]

when you wil post part 13 ? cant wait

[Misery84]

@detolya

Part 13 hasn't aired yet. It's airing tonight.

[cocaobutter]

I hope that this relationship takes a good turn and one of them doesn't end up dying or something like that because I think we've all seen enough of that in the a lot of the other shows.. Isabella is HOT!

[elvisrule]

bedankt, maar kan dat ook zonder ondertitels? ik vind ze afleidend...

[hermowninny]

I actually really liked this episode. Ronja has been completely over the top with the Arthur thing and ever since and she is finally seeing that it has to stop. It has nothing to do with being Lesbian, Isabella is the one happy thing in her life and no one's really made an issue out of it, everyone accepted their relationship quite easily, except her mother because Isabella was a patient of hers.

[drumstudent06]

boooooooooo

[cathysambajon]

*sigh* spoiled brat

[Keriette]

what being gay needs to stop? pfff should of known where this turns...

one lesbian in therapy having a relationship with a woman who has issues for herself too....it's like all lesbians are instable in people's eyes and writers for that matter.

this is sad....sad that is happening and clearly shows us how the world treats us....Wrong...we are wrong in their eyes. Why am I not surprised?

[tjshotunde]

@Keriette i know right, but what can we do.

[thasv]

@Keriette Hey, let's not get ahead of ourselves.. I don't think there is anything wrong with Isabella as a character, and she is the original lesbian.. Ronja just has some issues apparently, what DOES piss me off is that they just use her issues as an excuse for her to like Isabella. Like "oh i was blind and i fell in love with a girl, but I'm aware of my mistakes now, I'll fix this!"

[turtle7strong]

@thasv man i taught i was the only one who saw that. since the begining when they all ask isabella if she knows the chick is seeing a shrink.....

Peace

[unconventional36]

@thasv I can't even watch this. Isabella is so sweet and pretty, but this story and Ronja are way too annoying to watch. We need more healthy, strong lesbians like Mariana in "Las Aparicio." I can watch Mariana every day...Ronja, no thank you.

[Misery84]

@Keriette

No, the panic attacks need to stop. That is why she wants to go back into therapy to figure out how she needs to do that. She didn't want to talk to Isabella cause she couldn't handle that at that moment.

And throughout the show the Isabella character has been kind of unstable. Even before she figured she was gay. It has nothing to do with her being a lesbian character. That is the only consistent thing they followed through on.

[Keriette]

@Misery84 thank you for the information Misery.

I thought that the relationship and being gay needs to stop because thats the impression she gave by not wanting to talk to Isa and then saying what she said.

And thank you again...it's somehow good news that they didn't really made it look that way

[bluvel177]

@Misery84 I agree with you, what Ronja meant was 'the panic attack' need to stop. She blamed herself for letting the man died coz she panic and didn't help him. Her mum's case too, she didn't know how to help her until her dad gave instructions. She'll be alright once she deal with her own problem and it doesn't mean she doesn't want to be with Isabella. They'll be together. :)

[BackuZel]

@Keriette I can see your point. I would have to say that in this case they seem to find in each other the strength that the world can't provide.  They both habe gone through a lot and found it easier to speak to strangers than family. I tend to see them as seeking a haven in each other as oppose to being what is wrong with the lesbian in general.

[BackuZel]

@Keriette As long as the writers use the relationship as the 1 thing in their life that is going well than it's not about lesbians being sick or bad but a relationship that brought happiness when they could not find from any where else.

[click212]

@Keriette I agree. Lesbian relationships on TV boosts ratings. However, most of these shows are written by straight men and they have absolutely no idea how people outside their realm think. Notice how lesbian behavior is always too difficult to over come. Putting a lesbian couple that is not out of kilter perils their narrow view of the world. Then it would mean that gay is okay. They can't tolerate that.

[turtle7strong]

@click212 not all the writers are men and second if your going to have that mine set then you can call them all white and can't tap in to other races and the list goes on. oh also i take offense to the they comment because your upset people dont except gays but you can't accept that people can learn and are learning how to be ok with it.

Peace

[Kasen717]

@Keriette well said.

[justlin]

ronja very weird