i KNOW there's a god. And WHERE heaven is at.I have had? (VISIONS) of god , and have had witnesses who are still living today who saw this. All you islamists and other over - the top religious groups , you may come and kill me if you wish , i will not put up a fight and i don't want anyone to die for me , as do any real followers of the fish. (remember the roman arenas) If you want to hear my explanation , go to my youtube username channel.
This is some question that destroy Islam: How is it that the god of the Quran did not know the doctrine of the trinity? we see proves of this all the time, Muslims trying to debate the trinity, but when being told what the doctrine of the trinity is - they go WHAT? - because the little god of the Quran did not tell them it.
Why is it that the Quran states that no one has the power to change the word of Allah, when you also believe that Allah wrote the Bible?
know when muslims are debating about the trinity they do not say what. The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine persons the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. Its just an unlogical thing that doesnt need to be proven wrong. yes thats why the quran is superior to the bible. thats why islam is the right religion. there is no need for the bible when we have a quran.
@FazRulezZ4ever Ignoramus just answer the questions i asked you.A.State the neutral website where maurice buccaile and keith moore were reported to have converted to islam,explain why it is not on wikipedia like yusuf estes,and also explain why keith moore declined an interview with the wall street journal on the subject if he converted?B.Explain why your ignorant allah did not know that viruses,amoeba do not have MALE AND FEMALE
vut if you read the Bible and see that Jesus was Worshipped, something only God can be. Jesus did not tell the people not to worship Him, He let them do it over and over again.
@motherfuckingremix this is an arguement that the muslims use all the time, it is so stupid. Jesus was worshipped and did not tell the people not to do it.
@MrBallongerS There is no place where Jesus told any followers to worship him.
But he did say that we should all worship his father in the heavens. by father he doesnt mean his biological father he means god is everybodies father. this is why the bible cannot be trusted it has been changed for people to understand better but by changing it people have misinterprated it. i
@FazRulezZ4ever so then you just ignore all the verses that shows Jesus' followers worshipped Him
Muhammad who is as dead as can be now, was crawling around on the ground and screaming. Then he asked his wife(coming wife)if it was from God or not.
Just one question here: What would Muhammad have done if the woman had said it was not from God? Think about it, Muhammad has clearly shown how he acts, and he has shown me how he promotes himself as a messanger of God,which he is not
@FazRulezZ4ever My dear ignoramus your silence is deafening,can you just answer the questions i asked you.A.State the neutral website where maurice buccaile and keith moore were reported to have converted to islam,explain why it is not on wikipedia like yusuf estes,and also explain why keith moore declined an interview with the wall street journal on the subject if he converted?B.Explain why your ignorant allah did not know that viruses,amoeba do not have MALE AND FEMALE
@FazRulezZ4ever My dear ignoramus your silence is deafening,can you just answer the questions i asked you.A.State the neutral website where maurice buccaile and keith moore were reported to have converted to islam,explain why it is not on wikipedia like yusuf estes,and also explain why keith moore declined an interview with the wall street journal on the subject if he converted?B.Explain why your ignorant allah did not know that viruses,amoeba do not have MALE AND FEMALE
@FazRulezZ4ever yep...about as illogical as islamic nonsense re a mythical allah who 'sits in a throne way up in sky under which sun prostrates"
so you're trying to tell us the nonsense/errors/filth in bible NEGATES AND EXCUSES the nonsense/errors/filth in your man made koran eh lol
tel me kid, how 'logical' is it to accepted being lied, shave little pubies on command, follow comically inane & pagan rituals, supporting chopping off of healthy tissue of infants and things like wife beating etc
@FazRulezZ4ever your thinking fall on its own stupidety. to say you e Trinity is false because you see it as unlogical shows you have not even read all the scriptures showing Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit to be God.
@FazRulezZ4ever hi, now we are getting to the very centre of it. Jesus is the Son of God. and said it so the people would know what it meant. The jews got very angry when Jesus said it. and blaimed Him for blasfemy. Making Himslelf equal to God. This is true, that Jesus is the Son of God, but the jews did not believe Him. that's why he died by the hands of the jews.
@FazRulezZ4ever Mr ignoramus when are you going to answer the questions i asked you?,why don't you answer questions regarding what you follow?A.State the neutral website where maurice buccaile and keith moore were reported to have converted to islam,,and also explain why keith moore declined an interview with the wall street journal on the subject if he converted?B.Explain why your ignorant allah did not know that viruses,amoeba do not have MALE AND FEMALE
You have to be looking for guidance not just expect to be guided my friend. Quran chapter 3, verse 117
What they spend in the life of this (material) world may be likened to a wind which brings a nipping frost: it strikes and destroys the harvest of men who have wronged their own souls; it is not Allah that hath wronged, them but they wrong themselves.
Look for guidance and God will guide you, and if you are on the right path he will never misguide you.
Then why are so many scientists coming to Islam? Why dont you just say God instead of Allah? The heart in this ayat means intelligence!lol!Anyway, My God and your God is one, to Him I have submitted.
@tvarma 1.When you want to reply to a person,click on reply next to the person's name.2.No reputable scientist has converted to islam and that is a fact,in fact name one nobel prize winning scientist that CONVERTED to islam,i just need one convert.2.Sura 51:49 is a pure ignorance,sura 33:4 is pure ignorance and stupidity as well
@FazRulezZ4ever 1.keith moore is a charlatan as his claim of embryology in the quran is nothing short of scientific heresy,he has not won the nobel prize in sciences,he did not convert to islam,in fact he was invited by the wall stree journal in 2002 to come and discuss his claims and he declined saying it had been over 10 yrs since his work on the quran.2 maurice buccaile didnt either.go and read their biographies,nowhere is that mentioned.
lol you say show me scientist that have converted and than you deny that they have converted. but anyways there are alot of muslims that have won the nobel prize aswel and they havent converter out of islam.
@FazRulezZ4ever 1.I am not denying,i am stating facts,just show an article outside youtube islamic propaganda videos and islamic websites that these people converted,everybody can read on wikipedia about yusuf estes,just show me one on these guys,also why did keith moore decline a wall street journal interview on the subject in 2002?,why wasnt he proud to proclaim his new faith?.2.Abdus salam and zewail are not CONVERTS they were born muslims.,and 2 out of 1.5 billion?
@FazRulezZ4ever CONTD..2 out of 1.5 billion?!!!,do you know how many jewish scientist have won it?,over 100 and they are 15 million.3.You have not addressed the error i showed you in the quran and the quran is full of errors and stupidities like this
@FazRulezZ4ever CONTINUED..it is only on islamic sites and youtube videos that you will see such nonsensical claims of these peoples conversions.3.All things are not male and female,asexual organisms like the amoeba,viruses,some bacteria are not male and female,God would not write such,only an ignoramus would write such a thing
@11tayo no i found them on a neutral site -___- . an amoeba does not have a heart or organs. what the hell viruses bacteria? if you purposely want to make arrogant and ignorant arguements like that then ofcourse you can.you need a certain level of understanding for quranic verses. its talking about things that can breath that can feel not flipping bacteria you daft. and if you researched correctly before debating you would see microscopic bacteria is written in the quran.
@FazRulezZ4ever 1.State the website,in fact why isn't it on wikipedia?,please name the site where we can read that maurice buccaile,keith moore converted to islam.2.If your ignorant quran states in sura 51:49 that EVERYTHING is created in pairs,and as you said male and female,just explain why amoeba,viruses,for example do not have male and female?,these are scientific facts ,the problem is that you are ignorant and uneducated hence you are a muslim
Islam was teh first and only pure world power, it regulated trade in teh ME, where as teh USA is a fear mongering terror societyborn on racism adn genocide, yet says its the land of God adn the free, we have to ask which God, on teh back of teh dollar bill it says in god we trust, but with freemason symbols who worship satan , and attack religious teachings, and use radical x-ity adn judaism and sources of war, in teh name of satan in stead of peace non discriminant preeching.
@11tayo CONTINUED..Glory be to Him Who created all the pairs: from what the earth produces and from themselves and from things unknown to them. (Qur'an, 36:36)
… And He creates other things you do not know. (Qur'an, 16:8)
… He is the Knower of the Unseen, Whom not even the weight of the smallest particle eludes, either in the heavens or in the earth; nor is there anything smaller or larger than that which is not in a Clear Book. (Qur'an, 34:3)
@11tayo CONTINUED..… Not even the smallest speck eludes your Lord, either on earth or in heaven. Nor is there anything smaller than that, or larger, which is not in a Clear Book. (Qur'an, 10:61)
@FazRulezZ4ever CONTD.A.Provide an independent source of proof of conversion of these people and not islamic sources.B.Abdus salaam and zewail are not converts but born into islam.C.You claim sura 51:49 refers to male and female,i have told you categorically that this is absolute rubbish as amoeba,viruses,some bacteria do not exist as such as they are ASEXUAL
surely you would/SHOULD know WHY Moore has refused to talk/publish re koran for over 13 yrs now & WHAT transpired since his greed/error of judgement in telling saudis what they wanted to hear
whats more he NEVER became muslim...so you simply show how gullible you are the desperation muslims lol
in uk last year a muslim scientist confirmed evolution as irrefutable fact...and he got death threats
WHO would be so insecure to do that eh ? lets guess shall we?
@tvarma WHERE are scientists coming to islam...facts are vast majority of scientists are not only NOT muslim, but atheist
yes yes..you're a submissive slave...and submissive means
-weak
-easily controlled
-unwilling to question...follows commands without question
wasn't it hilarious that not so long ago in UK when a muslim scientist confirmed evolution as fact...muslims there showed their ignorance/INSECURITY and he got death threats
@proudfemale I DO NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION BUT TO USE EVOLUTION AS AN ARGUMENT AGAINST THE EXISTENCE OF GOD IS STUPID BECAUSE GOD MAY HAVE PUT US ON THE EARTH IN THAT WAY. HE MAY HAVE WANTED CREATURES TO EVOLVE IN HUMAN BEINGS. EVEN THOUGH IT IS VERY STUPID.
I dont see what the big deal is really, either believe in all the Prophets and the message which they came with and submit your will to God, or dont and live how u want to live and after you die then see if you will be held accountable or not! But you know and I know if by any chance the Quran and the messengers where right; by then it would be too late, theres no coming back from death.
@tvarma LOL you show how islam controls the mind/body/lives of the gullible/backward
WHY in 2012 do you choose to believe the ERRORS OF THAT ERA in koran, accepting being conned and lied to
WHAT makes you so immoral you support the obscene levels of human misery islam inflicts..the indecencies of denial of human rights,degradation of females,wife beating a male right, oppression etc
I feel sorry for you trolls/disbelievers, no purpose in your life at all, its funny because you really are just like cattle that eat and drink! Actually thats an insult to cattle, your worth than cattle. The truth comes to you and you still transgress. May God guide you all... lost little sheep..!
@tvarma Oh shoosh, just because you're all butthurt doesn't mean your critics don't have any purpose or joy in their lives. Don't be such a sore loser. LOLOLOLOL have a beer
@SidewaysQuark What is your purpose in life? Besides offering me beer! Looser, who me? I dont think so my friend, because you see the believers are not like the disbelievers, paradise/heaven is for the believers (who pray to God, give charity, keep fasts, etc.), hellfire is for the disbelievers, and the believers will always be successful in this life and the next. All you have to offer the world is beer which is responsible for the majority of crime in the world today, so thanks!
@tvarma loll,have a beer and some roast pork,,and maybe you will be able to see clearly the nonsense in the quran..for example sura al baqarah that you quoted is so stupid and idiotic that i 'm convinced that any muslim that has read it and is still muslim clearly is mentally retarded
@11tayo ahh one of my favourite chapters, Al-Baqara. Is that the one which reads:
When it is said to them: "Follow what Allah hath revealed" they say: "Nay! we shall follow the ways of our fathers." What! even though their fathers were void of wisdom and guidance? The parable of those who reject faith is as if one were to shout like a goat-herd, to things that listen to nothing but calls and cries; deaf, dumb, and blind. They are void of wisdom.
@tvarma For you to appreciate the stupidity of the sura you need to start from ayat 6.1.If it makes no difference to people that reject faith whether they are warned or not,then why would aGod send a prophet.2.If they will not listen or hearken because fake allah put a seal on their hearts,again why did he send a prophet or how can it be their fault?,why didnt he put belief in their hearts instead of a seal?,from these alone i can tell you that MOHAMMAD WAS A LIAR and no God sent him
@11tayo dude, its a test of faith lol! As in the same chapter, verse 214:
Or do ye think that ye shall enter the Garden of Bliss without such trials as came to those who passed away before you? They encountered suffering and adversity and were so shaken in spirit that even the Messenger and those of faith who were with him cried: "When will come the help of God (Allah)?" Ah! verily the help of God (Allah) is always near!
@tvarma What test of faith?,do you muslims ever use your brains?,your allah the alter ego of the ignorant mass murdering thief mohammad claimed that it is of no use warning people that have rejected faith because he put a seal on their hearts,but why would God do that?,what parent gets a private tutor for their kids then buys them ear plugs to be used in class?.Mohammad made that excuse up because of his inability to convince intelligent people
@UT5000 The only idiots/fools on this planet are the 1.5 billion morons that follow the quran and believe it to be divine,when it is full of catastrophic errors,idiocies and stupidities.Yet you muslims cannot realise that the reason why you are so underdeveloped and backward lies in your belief in such a moronic book which you not only believe but commit to memory.using the few braincells left from smashing your forehead on the floor in worship of a non existent deity
I read the Bible, stories of incest, rape, absurdities, promotes alcohol, homosexuality, apostasy, contradictions... and it has so many immoral stories, and if something has no moral value it becomes-> Totally Immoral! And that is what you have to offer mankind? We say no. The Quran is the truth and has come to smash the falsehood and disbelief out of any religion or system you have to offer.
You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion The QURAN.109.006
@tvarma Dear deluded muslim,i am indeed amused by your claim that your quran is true,let us start from the position of not having any religion as i do not follow any but i have indeed read your quran,ahadith because of the whole noise about islam and mohammad and i found the following,Mohammad was a lewd,deeply immoral man,a rapist,pedophile,thief,torturer,mass murderer and psychopath and your quran a book of monumental absurdities.You are welcome to debate me if you are so sure of it
@tvarma i have studied the quran,hadiths and siras and i find mohammed to be nothing but a charlatan,a child rapist,thief,rapist,bandit,torturer,mass murderer et.c ,the quran to be a complete fraud and allah to be nothing but the projection of mohammed's ignorant,sadistic and hedonistic mind.Only the unthinking and the foolish will follow islam,ofcourse you cannot debate because you are full of air and lack substance
Oh Muslims! Do not be like the disbelievers who forgot about God (by worshipping other than God, like how some people worship the messengers/Prophets pbut all like Isa/Jesus, etc etc.).
If you forget God, God will forget you. The people of Paradise are not like the people of Hellfire. The people of Paradise will always be successful!
Oh my Muslims brothers, please do not lower yourselves in communicating with these disbelievers and hypocrites and remember the teachings God sent to us in the Quran.
The Quran clearly mentions regarding these disbelievers that they only know the external factors of this world, as for the hereafter they are heedless (have no soul, no belief, totally lost). These people have become worse than cattle (like beasts), they are far astray. They have no understanding of what life is all about.
Asalaam ALeikum Thank You companion or your great advice. They truely are baseless hypocrites, Aayh 2:256 right and wrong have been clearly distinguished.
@tvarma LOL how comical, that you call those with intellect/integrity who CARE about the innocent victims of islam (those you don't give a shit about) as worse than beasts LOL
how well you show the INSECURITY AND FILTH of islam..and yes, we know koran says non believers 'vilest of all beasts'
lets look how VILE AND DIRTY the sicko prick mohammed was!!!
its hilarious you think people not gullible/inadequate like you have 'no understanding' about life
@tvarma how HILARIOUS ..a muslim who accepts being lied to, shackled by islam....who supports the obscene levels of human misery it inflicts as in wife beating a male right, children taught to hate, MURDER of those with intellect/integrity who don't believe the hoax, who follows comically INANE RULES/commands/pagan rituals out of fear and gullibility/ignorance thinks those with more intellect/integrity have no understanding of what life is about
In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, The Most Merciful
Say:"O Al-Kafiroun (disbelievers in Allah, in His Oneness, in His Angles, in His Books, in His Messengers, in the Day of Resurrection)! I worship not that which you worship, Nor will you worship that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping. Nor will you worship that which I worship. To you be your religion, and to me my religion. (Sura 109 - Al Quran)
P.S. you didn't refute anything, when you respond to the points I mentioned before then I'll talk to you.1) Abrogation (if you even know what it means), 2)Stoning women, 3)killing anyone who doesn't believe the same thing you do, 4)the satanic verses momo decided to use to lie to everyone then changed his mind.Here I'll even help you, The satanic verses were in surah al-najm and yes I know the demonic book "quran" better than you do :) also check tabari tafsir if you're still confused :) peace
More baselss talk, wow you got wrked up didn't you, you really are a fake grl, as fake as the exposed ergun cAner , who was payed to lie and say he was Muslim, lolz did you learn Islam from him, lolz you obviously don't know how to count following your teacher ergun, he thought ramadan has 40 days fasting from x-ity, the anti-christ religion, maybe on the moon, lol
You truely are a fake, you were exposed, nobody gets this worked up and babbles lies w/out proof.
ISLAM IS THE WAY OF LIFE. I AM MUSLIM I DONT NEED DEMOCRATIE I AM NOT FREE I FOLLW THE RULES OF ALLAH AND HIS PROPHETS MOHAMED SALLALAHO ALYIHI WASALAM. AGAIN I AM NOT FREE . ISLAM IS COMING TO YOUR OWN CITIES TOWNS VILLAGES ESTAES BUILDING HOUSES ROOMS
You all came here to find out how to destroy Islam. The Truth is you will never be able to stop Islam. Except it. You may as well join us as you will find it is the only truth if only you will look for yourself without being bias. Asalaam Alaykum!
The bible wasn't made in one lifetime by one but over centuries by many prophets. Why did allah wait until 600ad to say the other is crap? Jesus could have. Any really
So? Either ALL the REAL prophets that you think are real prophets thought the teachings up to Jesus death was 100% correct and the quran is wrong OR they weren't prophets and your quran is wrong. See this means the quran is lies. Justify this please
@tvarma You mean ''accept it''? No one will join you friend, Follow Jesus for salvation! im angry at islam i dont want to here it. Im ready to go to war for Jesus! I feel it's my purpose to destroy islam if he wishes!
@dontrililikepackies1 By the look of your username and by the tones of your comment it sounds like you want to kill some Pakistanis and some Muslims, may I suggest you join your army who are doing a sterling job.
Islam is the only religion which abolishes nationalism and racism. You can be from anywhere on Earth and become a Muslim. Just remember the Jesus (Prophet Isa) only came for "the children of Israel". Muslims all over the world have high respect for Prophet Isa the Son of Mary (Maryam).
@tvarma The only reason it abolishes racism is because it has replaced it with the new terror that is islam! jeeez are you dumb or what? That's worse than any racism ever to exist, worse than adulf hitlers ragime! forcing people to be part of your (army) lol! dummy! i'm not thick son shine! I see the big picture. And yes I'm willing to fight for Jesus and God. And we too are not afraid to die, even if we did die, Will get brough back to life again in the end. :) Soo we can't loose!
@dontrililikepackies1 Its nice you are willing to die for Jesus (Prophet Isa). Muslims are ready to die for God (Allah) alone.
Its ok, just be patient my friend we will meet soon. In the mean time I suggest you read chapter Maryam in the Quran, that's if you are up for a challenge. As the Quran says there is no compulsion in religion.
The final thing I will say to you is this, are you really ready to fight Muslims who love death more than you love life...?
@tvarma p.s Please don't call Jesus a prophet as I'm sure he would take this as a massive insult being the son of God, and now One with God is like insulting God, well it is! So id be careful if I was you. I won't be reading your book. I may burn one at some point.
And finally again, we too will die, but for the right reasons and for God Almighty and Jesus the son of God. Amen!
@tvarma Fuck off you dirty towel head fuckwit. All of your islamic countries are fucked up killing and blowing eachother up you stupid fuckwit. BTW theres no proof of your 9 year old fucking cunt of a god fkn raghead dog
This coming form teh panzy cultured reak who se countries were built on acism, screw you hypocrite, game over you projecting freak , you freaks blew up your own towers.
You fag, in bible, Gen 9:18-27 they call No peace be upon him someon who was raped by his ons falsely and they called Lut incestuous and a pedophile with his daughter somewhere else, adn you civilization was built on racist slavery,lolz youa re a freak projecting your evil ways, Marriage insn't Pedophilia and Propeht Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him had one young Wife MAy Allah be pleased with her to teach, but in your book its for incestous pedophilia, you hypocrite fag.
Muhammad (PBUH) never engaged sexually with Aisha (PBUH) till she was about 12!
At the time girls would get married even before that, only modern rules say that is wrong, but back then it was as normal as eating! He never RAPED her, they were married and this isnt rape, i know U.S girls that had sex when they were 12 and 13, was the guy who fucked them a rapist, NO! U say let them learn from experience!but if a guy 1400 yrs ago married a 12 year old whicj was normal hes a rapist now?!GROW UP!
@lloris44@tubeAbdullah Why are certain rules up for interpretation as culture changes, but certain other things are universal and will never change? If the Quran says marraige (and every right and obligation that comes with it) can happen with a 9 year old, then it must be allowed nowadays as well, right? I mean, forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems like certain religious rules are interpreted LITERALLY whereas others are interpreted accoding to current morals. Any explanation?
@Krommak Please,next time you argue me do some research so you dont embarrass urself online,and provide evidence like WHERE THE FUCK does it say in the Quran to marry 9 year olds?And if ur referring to Mohammed(PBUH) marrying Aisha(PBUH) then ur also wrong, she didnt even live with him until she was over 15,before she was just his wife in name&and lived with her parents like any other kid!Her father BTW was Mohammeds best friend, so u can forget all that rape and infidel SHIT!
@lloris44 My apologies, I must have offended you in some way. I did not state THAT the Quran allows it, but only IF the Quran allows it. I was merely reflecting on statements brought up in earlier posts. If indeed the Quran does not allow marriage with 9 year olds, that does not make the essence of my statement invalid. Why? I’ll explain it again, but then with a statement that you actually said, so that I won’t need a reference. (...see next post, not enough characters...)
@lloris44 A few posts below, you said that at that time children could be married and engage in sex at an age which is considered wrong nowadays. Why do you acknowledge that development of rules in this case, but on many other cases it seems there is no other interpretation possible than the literal one? Wouldn’t it be much easier to fit your religion, or any religion in general, into society if they would allow for more change, more interpretation according to current values?
@Krommak True,at that time it was normal for people to marry at a young age.Islam is the an easy religion not hard, but if u want to change everything that conflicts with American or european customs it will no longer be Islam!God put meanings in his words but not all of us understand them how theyre supposed to be.
U could think of Islam as a spiritual way to enforce laws such as not lying and killing..etc..
@lloris44 So, if I understand you correctly, then you're basically saying that when changing Islamic rules to more modern (or Western, if you will) values, you are changing Islam itself? The rules in Islam, as they are now, identify you as a Muslim?
(on a side note: you said in your other post that I should bring up proof when I speak about Islam. Well, that is why, in my previous post, I used a statement posted earlier by yourself. That way I don't think I need proof for that.)
@Krommak Exactly! What else defines Islam and makes it different from Christianity and Judaism,the rules of course.Like what specializes Christianity from Judaism different rules, thats the point of different religions or all the religions would be the same and there would actually be 1 religion!When im asked how are you a Muslim i tell them i dont eat pork or drink...etc and all the other rules!every religion has its own rules.
But so far i dont understand the point u want to prove plz explain
@lloris44 Well, what I mean to ask is that certain rules or values are interpreted as they always were in Islam, but there are also rules or values that for many Muslims get a more modern interpretation. Not consuming alcohol for you is fundamental, but for other Muslims it may not be fundamental. My question is then, how do you (I mean you personally and/or Muslims in general) decide which values are fundamental to your belief, in other words which values identify you as a Muslim?
Alchahol for example is clearly forbidden is Islam! i know many Muslims who drink although they know its forbidden, they didnt interpret it differently but they chose to Ignore the rule! This is known as SIN! All people commit sin whatever their religion is!God said to Muslims that if their were people without sin he would destroy them and make sinful people so that they could ask for Gods forgiveness.
@Krommak But although Sin is inevitable and God forgives most sins...this doesnt mean we should commit them!God is not dumb, we dontsin and say ok god will forgive us!
But if one sinned or strayed from the right path he must ask for forgiveness and choose the right pasth. I if wanted to go to Canada i dont ride a plain for Tokyo and pray for Canada.Humans have the choice , they r not Gods puppets.God just gives us the options, we choose.Life is just a test!
@lloris44 Okay, so those who drink alcohol know they commit sin, and thus the value has not changed, but it's people who sin knowingly. I think that's what you mean to say?
But then, what about the change in values from marrying and having sex with a child, which according to modern values is not allowed? You said that that was normal in that time, and it is not normal in modern times to do that. I guess (most) Muslims will also think nowadays that that is not normal, right? (cont...)
@lloris44 (…continued) So, my question is why that value has changed, but a value such as the aforementioned prohibition of alcohol has not changed? Why is the first value not considered fundamental to Islam (or your interpretation of that), but the second one is? How do you decide which values or rules are fundamental?
@Krommak /if u wish to know, The Quran never put an age to get married,this was left to where u live and all parties must approve the marriage.Ive live in a Muslim country for 7 years and i never heard of an 9 year old marriage,maybe 14, 15 years but not 9.This in the U.S is illegal and the Quran doesnt conflict with that if u live in US u must follow US rules of marriage.No value is greater than the other, but its easier to sin by alcohol than sin by killing for example....
@Krommak but the fundamental values that u must follow are, Believing in God, Believing in Mohammed, Jesus, Moses,Ibrahim..etc..(PBUT),believing in the QUran, Gospel, Torah.
Believing in Judgment day, Believing in Gods angels, believing GOd is 1 and he isnt human never born, has no partner and no child.
The other things are more of rules not values.Rules could be broken, but without these values Islam could be easily anything BUT Islam!
@proudfemale Apparently you don't know anything about Isalm. the prophet mohammed married that girl just in order to protect her and save her and he didn't touch her until she became a lady.It's really a shame on you to say such a thing about a prophet. is that what your religion teaches you? well let me tell you that Islam tells us to respect and believe in all the prophets including Jesus (not a god) and we DO..so next time you better talk about something you KNOW
@09Ouma Wait what? He married her at 6 years old and had sex with her at 9 years old. 9 years old is a lady? O.o That's in the books. and Furthermore during those times nobody was allowed to play with dolls after puberty and when he slept with her she was still playing with her dolls. Catch my drift?. Also, WAS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE HER? What about adoption? Or maybe handing her over to a family he trusted. I mean WAS THAT THE ONLY OPTION HE HAD? Sir you are an ignorant hypocrite.
@ElectricModel you have so much lack of information..go and read about life in Arabia at that time and you will understand many things..and by the way adoption is forbidden in Islam...
P.S : it's better to read books about Islam in their original version , I mean ARABIC because a translated book is not always a right choice :)
@09Ouma LOL I read the quran and btw I speak arabic so I read it IN ARABIC and I studied the history of islam, arabia and all that junk. Not that I wanted to, I was forced to study that garbage when I was a kid. You can lie to people who don't speak arabic all you want however, people like me are here to tell everyone else that you are full of crap. I am saying it again, You sir are a FRAUD and your supposed prophet is also a FRAUD lol
@jamingjames mohamed was a warlord who changed his mind about what God said when he saw fit( do some research about abrogation in islam and read the quran in chronological order NOT the order they want you to read it and you'll know what I mean).He was a pedophile no ifs or buts. If his message if for all times and ages, having sex with children is wrong then and now. Killing, beating your wife, praying to the moon God and so much more.500 characters isnt enough to do this question justice.
no pedophile, he married his wife, something your gay priests do to children is pedophilia, no warlord he got kiqed out of his home and won it back fair, like you evil kkk wife would know, america's admit what they did to the indians were wrong so if they won it back they would be heroes you ass, wife beating is only 4 sin, usa military they rape their own girls, we prostrate to 1 God like Jesus and Moses peace be upon them, 500 charcters not enough to do your stupidity justice.
@UT5000 He married a 6 years old = Pedophile. He and his moon deity tell you to kill anyone who doesn't share your belief system = a cult of nut-jobs. I like how you didn't even touch the abrogation point. I bet you've never researched your own religion you do what you're told like a mindless zombie so go beat up your wife as your false prophet and deity tell you and believe in what you want. I've done my home work, research and asked honest questions. You go ahead and Keep believing blindly
Pepohile is force, not marriage, you don't ask honest questions because you don't talk honestly, he was a role model, its culture and he as a perfect man showed others how to be kind to women of all ages, all his other wives were older, you are an idiot, lolz blindly, i see history, see all others unite on dishonesty out of jeoulsy of the peaceful caliphate Islam formed, Islam grows w/ research, a faithless liar shouldn't call anyone zombie, lolz, you bitter, twisted fool!
Abrogation only eads to somethigns better, liek how you don't talk about how they are so insecure that they pay ppl like ergun caner to lie about ISlam, is that who ou learned Slam adn english from, lozl you are a joke, you didn't ask honest questions you don't ahve honest speech, where is the warlord talk when i brogught out hte liberated his land in tehmedina phase ten years after oppresion in teMeccan one, I don't have to finish, you are a lying spinelss idiot. Ya Allah!
@UT5000 I made you angry didn't I? The truth hurts, I get it. like I said believe what you want. Facts are facts and calling me an idiot won't change them. When you have a 6 year old daughter you go ahead and marry her to a 43 year old man to follow your role model and go to heaven. Also, make sure to honor your wife/wives by beating them when they don't obey you. Don't forget to hate anyone and everyone who disagrees with you. You have such a great role model...sarcasm is lost in chat :-)
Angry? I am comfortable w/ truth, you got tunnel vision, Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him was an exceptional man w/ many wives and taught the wisest woman and never beat his wives, not of his model. BTW you have police enforcers that beat women all the time on false pretenses, i get your ignorance makes you fear truth! INsha'Allah I'll marry an honest women who listens to truth. Islam removed racism, don't forget, be a racist hoe and neglect your creator.
@UT5000 The difference between you and I is that I'm bringing forth facts from your own book. Since YOU know that there is no way to defend what your false prophet did when it comes to pretty much everything, you resort to attacking me and anyone who points out the truth to you. Believe in what you want but if you ever decide you want to do some honest research instead of following your religious monkeys blindly, shoot me a message and I'll be happy to send you pages of facts :-) Peace!
No not really, because it is a fact that Islam removed racism, and the non Islamic aetheist cultures were built on bloodshed/racism, and you are only making a monkey out of yourself, did you also notice that you backed off exchanging facts, not me, did you notice that you are repeating what i said, however i noticed you would use ad hominem, so the difference is that you are pleased being deaf dumb and blind as the Qu'ran describes you, the misguided hypocrites.
Any quotes (lolz NO!), you been refuted, don't forget that 80% of relationships in west have abuse and 60% have adultery (reported in their tv), land of God and free but born on genocide and slavery, don't forget to sleep around all the time, then not know your baby's uncle tom dad, then adapt a kid w/ your gay lover (animals value gender more then you),then burned at a stake like a witch (sarcasm). LOLZ
Things ISLam removed
You prefer racism, hate, lies, the absence of IsLam!
@UT5000 you realize that muslim countries have the highest rates of rape,adultery and so on they just never report them. Just because you hide something and you don't talk about it, it doesn't mean it's not happening :) Like I said you can insult me all you want. it won't change the fact that islam is a virus and it also won't make your point any stronger :) your own prophet raped a 6 year old and then called her his wife so joke's on you for following him now go beat your wife :)
Because you pretend something happens doesn't mean its true, take your medication, unlike your false statistics, Islam IS fastest growing religion in the world including west, where they fade because of hate and divorce, sluthood, proven wife beatings etc, where they do it out of human weakness due to lack of spirituality, where as Muslims raise virtuous women and grow w/ love, marriage.
Jokes on you, go do an abortion and get witch hunted racist, AYE,AYE!!!
@UT5000 islam is growing fast not because people are converting you silly. it's because muslims don't believe in birth control and they multiply like a virus that's all :) silly muslim...
Why do 20 million ppl convert every year, you look down at positives, Islam is the fastest growing religion also becasue secular bloody genocide civilizations have high abuse, divorce. You Think babies are viruses, Witch!!, its clear from your baby aborting society why you be jelous, 1/24secs. Evil! I sleep easy, just don't watch, fast in Ramadan to control yourself, don't let your husband get you, he'll beat and witch hunt you!!!
@UT5000 LOL you're not making any sense. You're too funny! Answer my questions with convincing proof and I'll convert to islam right here right now! :) Is that fair enough?
@UT5000 Muslims have good marraiges? Ermm, they should fucking well do dont you filthy cunts have 6 wives or something? all under aged, well some grandma age some underaged! Your poor women dont have a fucking chance to get out! or im sure they would. Only reason theres no divorce is because your so damn savage there frightened to death the poor old mears!
You dumasses have panzy marraiges and gay preists pedophiles, that is sick and then you gays adapt children. aniamls have more gender value then you, lolz, Marrying more then one wife is the way of the Prophets peace and blessings be upon them, you an oxymoronic moron, shut up, save yourself the embarassment.
Jesus christ peace be upon him was a Muslim innocent of the trintiy, which paul the assassin of Christ taught, you follow his assassin, nuff said you backward fool.
@UT5000 an oxymoronic moron? mwa? I think not. You are highly confused if you think that Jesus was a Muslim hahaha! and 7 wives in the footsteps of your peadophile prophet? come on. Do the math! it's not adding up to me sonny boy! I think you may be slightly confused.
Tell you what, why don't you follow the heard and live in your delusions. ; It's okay though, we can't all be right! there can only be ONE and that's in Christianity. Bye bye insestual islamic terrorist jr!
Why did Jesus peace be upon him say he as Muslim in the orignial aramaic translation, there so many different transaltions of the bible all inconsistant, why did they change teh words, because it was corrupt by the assasin Paul who you idiots, follo, what jackasses, why not listen to hitler preech the Torah, lolz.
Bye Panzy Jr.
Islam is fastest growing religion in east, west, jokes on you. So the truth does stand out you panzy freak, lolz. X-ity racist and untrustworthy.
@UT5000 I dont know which translation your refering too my friend. There is no such book, and if there is, it was translated wrong! Trust me! He was not a Muslim lol! The only reason your relegion is fast growing is because your mothers have x10 children at a good you breed in cat litters! So obviously it's growing. Soon i'm sure the governments will cap your birth rates. As for relegion, Your book is copied massively from the original Bible, you have about 7 books..
@UT5000 And the prophet you follow was a theif, a pedophile and had a bunch of 9 year old wives! come on, think along the correct lines. Does that seem right to you? would you give your 9 year old child off for marriage? use your brain fool!
Truth is your books 100 percent fake accept it! Jesus was NOT a Muslim haha! nor a prophet. But the Son of God! Why dont you listen to Osama preach his terror plans, oh no wait. He's dead. For ever! oops. Fair well habu jr
Propeht Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him married widows, his only young wife was to teach MAy Allah be pleased with them.
Funny, LAdin trained by USA land of radical x-ity-KKK-judaism, terrorism , mass genocide scaling half world, salvery, racism, bloodlust, land mongering, displacement, more like teh religion of Satan, Jesus peace be upon him said he was the Propeht and that Muhammad peace and blessings be upon them was the sprirt of truth the comfortor, you read/talk lies.
@UT5000 Do you know how silly you are writing peace this peace that. Bin Ladin was killed by Americans dummy! lol, have you not see the terror videos he put out. The Holy land of the Son of god Jesus I belive is Jerusalem, Isreal, Iran and Iraq all neighboring countrys are muslim. Christians and Jews don't like the fake relegion which is Islam, infact Isreal have vowed to wipe Iran off the map I belive. Sooner or later we will all see Who the Son of God is. Jesus!
Math 15:9 is a biblical book fool, its proofs you hvae no connection to true source of knoweldge, Bin ladin's death was a photoshopped pic, 9-11 was an inside job which is why wtc7 fell on its own, and fire fighters said the owners were going to pull the switch, JFK talked about shadow gov't, and jews curse Christ you idiot ever read, Talmud, you are a jackass. You're heedless to truth, trinity worship is from pagan time of ancient egypt,its on reliable sources even wikipedia.
Jesus peace eb upon him said in AMth 15:9 in vein they do worship me, you are an idiot, you have no proof, you just mumble jumbo from sources with agendas, you have no objective truth , this is why your rleigion shrinks, because people think, and your divorces take place because of lies, you guys have panzy marriages, this si why your women leave you, and oyu have high murder an d itch hunting rate, yet they still leave you , lolz
You fag, in bible, Gen 9:18-27 they call No peace be upon him someon who was raped by his ons falsely and they called Lut incestuous and a pedophile with his daughter somewhere else, adn you civilization was built on racist slavery,lolz youa re a freak projecting your evil ways, Marriage insn't Pedophilia and Propeht Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him had one young Wife MAy Allah be pleased with her to teach, but in your book its for incestous pedophilia, you hypocrite fag.
@UT5000 excuse me? are you speaking to me? Why dont you take your relegion too your islamic country and walk around that building of yours a few times, mean while why don't we send a plane into it! you piece of shit! shut your mouth dribble at once! Your prophet had a wife and what? please please SHUTUP you brainwashed foreigner! Fuck Off. Your relegion might be good to you, but for the rest of the world it is Not. I am Christian and proud! Now go fuck a mountain goat!!!
the truth hurt you, which is why you bable curses like a beast, stop projecting your gay animal ways, why odn't you shut up you hit your own buildings, your x-ity is an evil pagan faith, the trintiy is from ancient egypt and preeched by Paul not Jesus peace be upon him. ISlam si the fastest growing faith in the world.
I have asked a question and never gotten an asnswer.
I try again:
Where is the sacrifise in Islam?
Like the Jews sacrifices animals (the blood from them to God)
And for Christians it is Jesus Christ dying on the cross.
Btw, no one who does not believe in the Trinity is Christian.
MrBallongerS 1 hour ago
I do dont believe the slave Muhammad who said he was the last messanger of God. He was nothing but a general of an army, he is dead now.
MrBallongerS 2 hours ago
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karezza6 11 hours ago
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i KNOW there's a god. And WHERE heaven is at.I have had? (VISIONS) of god , and have had witnesses who are still living today who saw this. All you islamists and other over - the top religious groups , you may come and kill me if you wish , i will not put up a fight and i don't want anyone to die for me , as do any real followers of the fish. (remember the roman arenas) If you want to hear my explanation , go to my youtube username channel.
kevin347lee 2 days ago
one more:
Why did Allah make it look like Jesus was killed on the cross?
Was it to set up another religion, so that Allah's followers can go on killing them later?
MrBallongerS 6 days ago
This is some question that destroy Islam: How is it that the god of the Quran did not know the doctrine of the trinity? we see proves of this all the time, Muslims trying to debate the trinity, but when being told what the doctrine of the trinity is - they go WHAT? - because the little god of the Quran did not tell them it.
Why is it that the Quran states that no one has the power to change the word of Allah, when you also believe that Allah wrote the Bible?
People of the Book is wondering.
MrBallongerS 6 days ago
@MrBallongerS
know when muslims are debating about the trinity they do not say what. The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine persons the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. Its just an unlogical thing that doesnt need to be proven wrong. yes thats why the quran is superior to the bible. thats why islam is the right religion. there is no need for the bible when we have a quran.
FazRulezZ4ever 2 days ago
@FazRulezZ4ever Ignoramus just answer the questions i asked you.A.State the neutral website where maurice buccaile and keith moore were reported to have converted to islam,explain why it is not on wikipedia like yusuf estes,and also explain why keith moore declined an interview with the wall street journal on the subject if he converted?B.Explain why your ignorant allah did not know that viruses,amoeba do not have MALE AND FEMALE
11tayo 2 days ago
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Gen 16:11 Allah blesses and names Ismael himself.
Gen 16:16:Abram was 86 when Ismael was born.
Gen 21:5: Abram was 100 when Isaac was born.
Gen 17:24-27: "Abraham was 99 yrs when he circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
Seal, circumsicion was made before Isaac was born.
Gen 22 "shine only son Isaac." it should be "shine only son Ismael," Ishael was 13yrs, Isaac hasn't been born.
How fake your faith is? Denial now is just breathing lies. Peace and blessings on the Prophets
UT5000 21 hours ago
@FazRulezZ4ever unlogical, you mean that.
vut if you read the Bible and see that Jesus was Worshipped, something only God can be. Jesus did not tell the people not to worship Him, He let them do it over and over again.
MrBallongerS 2 days ago
@MrBallongerS show me one place in the bible that jesus says im am your lord worship me
motherfuckingremix 1 day ago
@motherfuckingremix this is an arguement that the muslims use all the time, it is so stupid. Jesus was worshipped and did not tell the people not to do it.
MrBallongerS 2 hours ago
@MrBallongerS There is no place where Jesus told any followers to worship him.
But he did say that we should all worship his father in the heavens. by father he doesnt mean his biological father he means god is everybodies father. this is why the bible cannot be trusted it has been changed for people to understand better but by changing it people have misinterprated it. i
FazRulezZ4ever 8 hours ago
@FazRulezZ4ever so then you just ignore all the verses that shows Jesus' followers worshipped Him
Muhammad who is as dead as can be now, was crawling around on the ground and screaming. Then he asked his wife(coming wife)if it was from God or not.
Just one question here: What would Muhammad have done if the woman had said it was not from God? Think about it, Muhammad has clearly shown how he acts, and he has shown me how he promotes himself as a messanger of God,which he is not
MrBallongerS 5 hours ago
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@FazRulezZ4ever My dear ignoramus your silence is deafening,can you just answer the questions i asked you.A.State the neutral website where maurice buccaile and keith moore were reported to have converted to islam,explain why it is not on wikipedia like yusuf estes,and also explain why keith moore declined an interview with the wall street journal on the subject if he converted?B.Explain why your ignorant allah did not know that viruses,amoeba do not have MALE AND FEMALE
11tayo 4 hours ago
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@FazRulezZ4ever My dear ignoramus your silence is deafening,can you just answer the questions i asked you.A.State the neutral website where maurice buccaile and keith moore were reported to have converted to islam,explain why it is not on wikipedia like yusuf estes,and also explain why keith moore declined an interview with the wall street journal on the subject if he converted?B.Explain why your ignorant allah did not know that viruses,amoeba do not have MALE AND FEMALE
11tayo 2 days ago
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@FazRulezZ4ever yep...about as illogical as islamic nonsense re a mythical allah who 'sits in a throne way up in sky under which sun prostrates"
so you're trying to tell us the nonsense/errors/filth in bible NEGATES AND EXCUSES the nonsense/errors/filth in your man made koran eh lol
tel me kid, how 'logical' is it to accepted being lied, shave little pubies on command, follow comically inane & pagan rituals, supporting chopping off of healthy tissue of infants and things like wife beating etc
proudfemale 1 day ago
@FazRulezZ4ever your thinking fall on its own stupidety. to say you e Trinity is false because you see it as unlogical shows you have not even read all the scriptures showing Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit to be God.
MrBallongerS 5 hours ago
@MrBallongerS
HOW CAN JESUS BE GOD AND THEN CALL HIM SELF THE SON OF GOD.
FazRulezZ4ever 2 hours ago
@FazRulezZ4ever hi, now we are getting to the very centre of it. Jesus is the Son of God. and said it so the people would know what it meant. The jews got very angry when Jesus said it. and blaimed Him for blasfemy. Making Himslelf equal to God. This is true, that Jesus is the Son of God, but the jews did not believe Him. that's why he died by the hands of the jews.
MrBallongerS 1 hour ago
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@FazRulezZ4ever Mr ignoramus when are you going to answer the questions i asked you?,why don't you answer questions regarding what you follow?A.State the neutral website where maurice buccaile and keith moore were reported to have converted to islam,,and also explain why keith moore declined an interview with the wall street journal on the subject if he converted?B.Explain why your ignorant allah did not know that viruses,amoeba do not have MALE AND FEMALE
11tayo 1 hour ago
You have to be looking for guidance not just expect to be guided my friend. Quran chapter 3, verse 117
What they spend in the life of this (material) world may be likened to a wind which brings a nipping frost: it strikes and destroys the harvest of men who have wronged their own souls; it is not Allah that hath wronged, them but they wrong themselves.
Look for guidance and God will guide you, and if you are on the right path he will never misguide you.
tvarma 1 week ago
Then why are so many scientists coming to Islam? Why dont you just say God instead of Allah? The heart in this ayat means intelligence!lol!Anyway, My God and your God is one, to Him I have submitted.
tvarma 1 week ago
@tvarma 1.When you want to reply to a person,click on reply next to the person's name.2.No reputable scientist has converted to islam and that is a fact,in fact name one nobel prize winning scientist that CONVERTED to islam,i just need one convert.2.Sura 51:49 is a pure ignorance,sura 33:4 is pure ignorance and stupidity as well
11tayo 5 days ago
@11tayo
keith moore was a scientst that has converted to islam.
Professor Milan converted to islam.
Dr Maurice Bucaille has
Dr. Kal Luehr has
and many more.
51:49 - And of all things We created two mates; this means male and female. how is that pure ignorance?
and read 33:1-10 it is in no way ignorant or stupid. its to long for me to post in this message.
FazRulezZ4ever 3 days ago
@FazRulezZ4ever 1.keith moore is a charlatan as his claim of embryology in the quran is nothing short of scientific heresy,he has not won the nobel prize in sciences,he did not convert to islam,in fact he was invited by the wall stree journal in 2002 to come and discuss his claims and he declined saying it had been over 10 yrs since his work on the quran.2 maurice buccaile didnt either.go and read their biographies,nowhere is that mentioned.
11tayo 2 days ago
@11tayo
lol you say show me scientist that have converted and than you deny that they have converted. but anyways there are alot of muslims that have won the nobel prize aswel and they havent converter out of islam.
Abdus-Salam won it for physics.
Ahmed Zewail won it for chemistry
and there is more.
FazRulezZ4ever 2 days ago
@FazRulezZ4ever 1.I am not denying,i am stating facts,just show an article outside youtube islamic propaganda videos and islamic websites that these people converted,everybody can read on wikipedia about yusuf estes,just show me one on these guys,also why did keith moore decline a wall street journal interview on the subject in 2002?,why wasnt he proud to proclaim his new faith?.2.Abdus salam and zewail are not CONVERTS they were born muslims.,and 2 out of 1.5 billion?
11tayo 2 days ago
@FazRulezZ4ever CONTD..2 out of 1.5 billion?!!!,do you know how many jewish scientist have won it?,over 100 and they are 15 million.3.You have not addressed the error i showed you in the quran and the quran is full of errors and stupidities like this
11tayo 2 days ago
@FazRulezZ4ever CONTINUED..it is only on islamic sites and youtube videos that you will see such nonsensical claims of these peoples conversions.3.All things are not male and female,asexual organisms like the amoeba,viruses,some bacteria are not male and female,God would not write such,only an ignoramus would write such a thing
11tayo 2 days ago
@11tayo no i found them on a neutral site -___- . an amoeba does not have a heart or organs. what the hell viruses bacteria? if you purposely want to make arrogant and ignorant arguements like that then ofcourse you can.you need a certain level of understanding for quranic verses. its talking about things that can breath that can feel not flipping bacteria you daft. and if you researched correctly before debating you would see microscopic bacteria is written in the quran.
FazRulezZ4ever 2 days ago
@FazRulezZ4ever 1.State the website,in fact why isn't it on wikipedia?,please name the site where we can read that maurice buccaile,keith moore converted to islam.2.If your ignorant quran states in sura 51:49 that EVERYTHING is created in pairs,and as you said male and female,just explain why amoeba,viruses,for example do not have male and female?,these are scientific facts ,the problem is that you are ignorant and uneducated hence you are a muslim
11tayo 2 days ago
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Islam was teh first and only pure world power, it regulated trade in teh ME, where as teh USA is a fear mongering terror societyborn on racism adn genocide, yet says its the land of God adn the free, we have to ask which God, on teh back of teh dollar bill it says in god we trust, but with freemason symbols who worship satan , and attack religious teachings, and use radical x-ity adn judaism and sources of war, in teh name of satan in stead of peace non discriminant preeching.
UT5000 21 hours ago
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@FazRulezZ4ever oh really....WRITE OUT the verse from koran re microscopic bacteria LOL
koran says 'angels breathe onto foetus" and that humans are 'created from a drop emitted from between backbone/ribs & congealed blood" LOL
and tell me...are stars really missiles to chase jinns away
so whats the level of understanding yu have re 96.2 given your claim...explain it
proudfemale 1 day ago
@11tayo CONTINUED..Glory be to Him Who created all the pairs: from what the earth produces and from themselves and from things unknown to them. (Qur'an, 36:36)
… And He creates other things you do not know. (Qur'an, 16:8)
… He is the Knower of the Unseen, Whom not even the weight of the smallest particle eludes, either in the heavens or in the earth; nor is there anything smaller or larger than that which is not in a Clear Book. (Qur'an, 34:3)
FazRulezZ4ever 2 days ago
@11tayo CONTINUED..… Not even the smallest speck eludes your Lord, either on earth or in heaven. Nor is there anything smaller than that, or larger, which is not in a Clear Book. (Qur'an, 10:61)
FazRulezZ4ever 2 days ago
@FazRulezZ4ever CONTD.A.Provide an independent source of proof of conversion of these people and not islamic sources.B.Abdus salaam and zewail are not converts but born into islam.C.You claim sura 51:49 refers to male and female,i have told you categorically that this is absolute rubbish as amoeba,viruses,some bacteria do not exist as such as they are ASEXUAL
11tayo 2 days ago
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@FazRulezZ4ever LOL
surely you would/SHOULD know WHY Moore has refused to talk/publish re koran for over 13 yrs now & WHAT transpired since his greed/error of judgement in telling saudis what they wanted to hear
whats more he NEVER became muslim...so you simply show how gullible you are the desperation muslims lol
in uk last year a muslim scientist confirmed evolution as irrefutable fact...and he got death threats
WHO would be so insecure to do that eh ? lets guess shall we?
proudfemale 1 day ago
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@tvarma WHERE are scientists coming to islam...facts are vast majority of scientists are not only NOT muslim, but atheist
yes yes..you're a submissive slave...and submissive means
-weak
-easily controlled
-unwilling to question...follows commands without question
wasn't it hilarious that not so long ago in UK when a muslim scientist confirmed evolution as fact...muslims there showed their ignorance/INSECURITY and he got death threats
proudfemale 4 days ago
@proudfemale I DO NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION BUT TO USE EVOLUTION AS AN ARGUMENT AGAINST THE EXISTENCE OF GOD IS STUPID BECAUSE GOD MAY HAVE PUT US ON THE EARTH IN THAT WAY. HE MAY HAVE WANTED CREATURES TO EVOLVE IN HUMAN BEINGS. EVEN THOUGH IT IS VERY STUPID.
FazRulezZ4ever 2 days ago
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@FazRulezZ4ever why are you SCARED SILLY of irrefutable facts,massive evidences,proofs re evolution...its proven beyond dispute
conversely WHY is it the isn't a shred of proof of your mythical allah...NOT A SHRED of anything anywhere...now WHY would that be
actually errors in koran PROVE islam a hoax & how muslims are lied to
tell me kid
WHEN did purported adam live
was he 90 ft tall lol
were you once a blood clot like koran says LOL
proudfemale 1 day ago
I dont see what the big deal is really, either believe in all the Prophets and the message which they came with and submit your will to God, or dont and live how u want to live and after you die then see if you will be held accountable or not! But you know and I know if by any chance the Quran and the messengers where right; by then it would be too late, theres no coming back from death.
tvarma 1 week ago
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@tvarma LOL you show how islam controls the mind/body/lives of the gullible/backward
WHY in 2012 do you choose to believe the ERRORS OF THAT ERA in koran, accepting being conned and lied to
WHAT makes you so immoral you support the obscene levels of human misery islam inflicts..the indecencies of denial of human rights,degradation of females,wife beating a male right, oppression etc
proudfemale 4 days ago
I feel sorry for you trolls/disbelievers, no purpose in your life at all, its funny because you really are just like cattle that eat and drink! Actually thats an insult to cattle, your worth than cattle. The truth comes to you and you still transgress. May God guide you all... lost little sheep..!
tvarma 1 week ago
@tvarma Oh shoosh, just because you're all butthurt doesn't mean your critics don't have any purpose or joy in their lives. Don't be such a sore loser. LOLOLOLOL have a beer
SidewaysQuark 1 week ago
@SidewaysQuark What is your purpose in life? Besides offering me beer! Looser, who me? I dont think so my friend, because you see the believers are not like the disbelievers, paradise/heaven is for the believers (who pray to God, give charity, keep fasts, etc.), hellfire is for the disbelievers, and the believers will always be successful in this life and the next. All you have to offer the world is beer which is responsible for the majority of crime in the world today, so thanks!
tvarma 1 week ago
@tvarma loll,have a beer and some roast pork,,and maybe you will be able to see clearly the nonsense in the quran..for example sura al baqarah that you quoted is so stupid and idiotic that i 'm convinced that any muslim that has read it and is still muslim clearly is mentally retarded
11tayo 1 week ago
@11tayo ahh one of my favourite chapters, Al-Baqara. Is that the one which reads:
When it is said to them: "Follow what Allah hath revealed" they say: "Nay! we shall follow the ways of our fathers." What! even though their fathers were void of wisdom and guidance? The parable of those who reject faith is as if one were to shout like a goat-herd, to things that listen to nothing but calls and cries; deaf, dumb, and blind. They are void of wisdom.
That one?
tvarma 1 week ago
@tvarma For you to appreciate the stupidity of the sura you need to start from ayat 6.1.If it makes no difference to people that reject faith whether they are warned or not,then why would aGod send a prophet.2.If they will not listen or hearken because fake allah put a seal on their hearts,again why did he send a prophet or how can it be their fault?,why didnt he put belief in their hearts instead of a seal?,from these alone i can tell you that MOHAMMAD WAS A LIAR and no God sent him
11tayo 1 week ago
@11tayo dude, its a test of faith lol! As in the same chapter, verse 214:
Or do ye think that ye shall enter the Garden of Bliss without such trials as came to those who passed away before you? They encountered suffering and adversity and were so shaken in spirit that even the Messenger and those of faith who were with him cried: "When will come the help of God (Allah)?" Ah! verily the help of God (Allah) is always near!
tvarma 1 week ago
@tvarma What test of faith?,do you muslims ever use your brains?,your allah the alter ego of the ignorant mass murdering thief mohammad claimed that it is of no use warning people that have rejected faith because he put a seal on their hearts,but why would God do that?,what parent gets a private tutor for their kids then buys them ear plugs to be used in class?.Mohammad made that excuse up because of his inability to convince intelligent people
11tayo 1 week ago
@tvarma
ASalaam ALeikum brother like you said to me, don't take teh fools seriously, never do i eet an Anti-Islamists except he is kind of hypocritical.
UT5000 1 week ago
@UT5000Walaykum Salaam Akhi, jzk for your advice and reminder. Salaam to you and your family. May Allah keep us steadfast and patient.
tvarma 6 days ago
@UT5000 The only idiots/fools on this planet are the 1.5 billion morons that follow the quran and believe it to be divine,when it is full of catastrophic errors,idiocies and stupidities.Yet you muslims cannot realise that the reason why you are so underdeveloped and backward lies in your belief in such a moronic book which you not only believe but commit to memory.using the few braincells left from smashing your forehead on the floor in worship of a non existent deity
11tayo 5 days ago
As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Quran 2:6
tvarma 1 week ago
@tvarma Wow, a piece of fiction predicted that people won't believe it? LOL People fall for this crap? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SidewaysQuark 1 week ago
@SidewaysQuark Wake up sheep.
tvarma 1 week ago
@tvarma Grow up little lamb. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SidewaysQuark 1 week ago
I read the Bible, stories of incest, rape, absurdities, promotes alcohol, homosexuality, apostasy, contradictions... and it has so many immoral stories, and if something has no moral value it becomes-> Totally Immoral! And that is what you have to offer mankind? We say no. The Quran is the truth and has come to smash the falsehood and disbelief out of any religion or system you have to offer.
You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion The QURAN.109.006
tvarma 1 week ago
@tvarma Dear deluded muslim,i am indeed amused by your claim that your quran is true,let us start from the position of not having any religion as i do not follow any but i have indeed read your quran,ahadith because of the whole noise about islam and mohammad and i found the following,Mohammad was a lewd,deeply immoral man,a rapist,pedophile,thief,torturer,mass murderer and psychopath and your quran a book of monumental absurdities.You are welcome to debate me if you are so sure of it
11tayo 1 week ago
@11tayo Which of the signs of your Lord will ye deny? Islam is the only religion which worships one God without image, intercessors or partners.
I'm talking about what the bible says and you are coming back attacking the Quran, Hadiths, and Prophet Muhammad the seal of the Prophets.
I don't think u are worthy of debating me and besides; I can't debate with someone who can't stay on point and who will just be venting.
Instead I will just offer u an invitation to accept Islam. Peace to u.
tvarma 1 week ago
@tvarma i have studied the quran,hadiths and siras and i find mohammed to be nothing but a charlatan,a child rapist,thief,rapist,bandit,torturer,mass murderer et.c ,the quran to be a complete fraud and allah to be nothing but the projection of mohammed's ignorant,sadistic and hedonistic mind.Only the unthinking and the foolish will follow islam,ofcourse you cannot debate because you are full of air and lack substance
11tayo 1 week ago
@11tayo Pipe down troll
tvarma 1 week ago
@tvarma lol,muslimbecile.
11tayo 1 week ago
may allah curse you
gamegiver1 2 weeks ago
Oh Muslims! Do not be like the disbelievers who forgot about God (by worshipping other than God, like how some people worship the messengers/Prophets pbut all like Isa/Jesus, etc etc.).
If you forget God, God will forget you. The people of Paradise are not like the people of Hellfire. The people of Paradise will always be successful!
tvarma 2 weeks ago
Leave them alone to eat and drink like cattle! Soon they will know.
tvarma 2 weeks ago
Oh my Muslims brothers, please do not lower yourselves in communicating with these disbelievers and hypocrites and remember the teachings God sent to us in the Quran.
The Quran clearly mentions regarding these disbelievers that they only know the external factors of this world, as for the hereafter they are heedless (have no soul, no belief, totally lost). These people have become worse than cattle (like beasts), they are far astray. They have no understanding of what life is all about.
tvarma 2 weeks ago 5
@tvarma so does the Bible buddy. :)
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@tvarma
Asalaam ALeikum Thank You companion or your great advice. They truely are baseless hypocrites, Aayh 2:256 right and wrong have been clearly distinguished.
UT5000 2 weeks ago
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@tvarma LOL how comical, that you call those with intellect/integrity who CARE about the innocent victims of islam (those you don't give a shit about) as worse than beasts LOL
how well you show the INSECURITY AND FILTH of islam..and yes, we know koran says non believers 'vilest of all beasts'
lets look how VILE AND DIRTY the sicko prick mohammed was!!!
its hilarious you think people not gullible/inadequate like you have 'no understanding' about life
go shave your little pubies dumb kid!
proudfemale 4 days ago
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@tvarma how HILARIOUS ..a muslim who accepts being lied to, shackled by islam....who supports the obscene levels of human misery it inflicts as in wife beating a male right, children taught to hate, MURDER of those with intellect/integrity who don't believe the hoax, who follows comically INANE RULES/commands/pagan rituals out of fear and gullibility/ignorance thinks those with more intellect/integrity have no understanding of what life is about
WHATS life about for victims of islam???
proudfemale 1 day ago
In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, The Most Merciful
Say:"O Al-Kafiroun (disbelievers in Allah, in His Oneness, in His Angles, in His Books, in His Messengers, in the Day of Resurrection)! I worship not that which you worship, Nor will you worship that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping. Nor will you worship that which I worship. To you be your religion, and to me my religion. (Sura 109 - Al Quran)
tvarma 3 weeks ago
bible gets a upgrade every year, not our quran
MrMuslimsoldier 3 weeks ago
@dontrililikepackies1 - You really believe you're not dumb, right? :D Correct your spellings first ..We'll get to the topic of God later.
MrXiddi 3 weeks ago
P.S. you didn't refute anything, when you respond to the points I mentioned before then I'll talk to you.1) Abrogation (if you even know what it means), 2)Stoning women, 3)killing anyone who doesn't believe the same thing you do, 4)the satanic verses momo decided to use to lie to everyone then changed his mind.Here I'll even help you, The satanic verses were in surah al-najm and yes I know the demonic book "quran" better than you do :) also check tabari tafsir if you're still confused :) peace
ElectricModel 4 weeks ago
@ElectricModel
More baselss talk, wow you got wrked up didn't you, you really are a fake grl, as fake as the exposed ergun cAner , who was payed to lie and say he was Muslim, lolz did you learn Islam from him, lolz you obviously don't know how to count following your teacher ergun, he thought ramadan has 40 days fasting from x-ity, the anti-christ religion, maybe on the moon, lol
You truely are a fake, you were exposed, nobody gets this worked up and babbles lies w/out proof.
UT5000 4 weeks ago
@UT5000 lol whatever helps you sleep at night sweetheart :D you still haven't answered any of the questions btw :)
ElectricModel 4 weeks ago
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UT5000 4 weeks ago
ISLAM IS THE WAY OF LIFE. I AM MUSLIM I DONT NEED DEMOCRATIE I AM NOT FREE I FOLLW THE RULES OF ALLAH AND HIS PROPHETS MOHAMED SALLALAHO ALYIHI WASALAM. AGAIN I AM NOT FREE . ISLAM IS COMING TO YOUR OWN CITIES TOWNS VILLAGES ESTAES BUILDING HOUSES ROOMS
ighilasan 1 month ago
You all came here to find out how to destroy Islam. The Truth is you will never be able to stop Islam. Except it. You may as well join us as you will find it is the only truth if only you will look for yourself without being bias. Asalaam Alaykum!
tvarma 1 month ago 9
@tvarma I can destroy it. Look at this.
The bible wasn't made in one lifetime by one but over centuries by many prophets. Why did allah wait until 600ad to say the other is crap? Jesus could have. Any really
So? Either ALL the REAL prophets that you think are real prophets thought the teachings up to Jesus death was 100% correct and the quran is wrong OR they weren't prophets and your quran is wrong. See this means the quran is lies. Justify this please
BizzoMustard 3 weeks ago
@BizzoMustard
"And We have sent to you the book in truth, confirming the scriptures that came before it" (Quran 5:48)
We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our God and your God is one and to Him we have submitted (Quran 29:46)
Question everything and find the truth yourself. For surely, God guides whom he wants to guide. Feel free to pm me. Peace to you.
tvarma 3 weeks ago
@tvarma You mean ''accept it''? No one will join you friend, Follow Jesus for salvation! im angry at islam i dont want to here it. Im ready to go to war for Jesus! I feel it's my purpose to destroy islam if he wishes!
dontrililikepackies1 3 weeks ago
@dontrililikepackies1 By the look of your username and by the tones of your comment it sounds like you want to kill some Pakistanis and some Muslims, may I suggest you join your army who are doing a sterling job.
Islam is the only religion which abolishes nationalism and racism. You can be from anywhere on Earth and become a Muslim. Just remember the Jesus (Prophet Isa) only came for "the children of Israel". Muslims all over the world have high respect for Prophet Isa the Son of Mary (Maryam).
tvarma 3 weeks ago
@tvarma The only reason it abolishes racism is because it has replaced it with the new terror that is islam! jeeez are you dumb or what? That's worse than any racism ever to exist, worse than adulf hitlers ragime! forcing people to be part of your (army) lol! dummy! i'm not thick son shine! I see the big picture. And yes I'm willing to fight for Jesus and God. And we too are not afraid to die, even if we did die, Will get brough back to life again in the end. :) Soo we can't loose!
dontrililikepackies1 3 weeks ago
@dontrililikepackies1 Its nice you are willing to die for Jesus (Prophet Isa). Muslims are ready to die for God (Allah) alone.
Its ok, just be patient my friend we will meet soon. In the mean time I suggest you read chapter Maryam in the Quran, that's if you are up for a challenge. As the Quran says there is no compulsion in religion.
The final thing I will say to you is this, are you really ready to fight Muslims who love death more than you love life...?
tvarma 3 weeks ago
@tvarma p.s Please don't call Jesus a prophet as I'm sure he would take this as a massive insult being the son of God, and now One with God is like insulting God, well it is! So id be careful if I was you. I won't be reading your book. I may burn one at some point.
And finally again, we too will die, but for the right reasons and for God Almighty and Jesus the son of God. Amen!
dontrililikepackies1 3 weeks ago
@tvarma God doesn´t excist!
d3kkii 3 weeks ago
@d3kkii did you create yourself?
tvarma 3 weeks ago
@tvarma maybe, but god was not!
d3kkii 3 weeks ago
@tvarma Fuck off you dirty towel head fuckwit. All of your islamic countries are fucked up killing and blowing eachother up you stupid fuckwit. BTW theres no proof of your 9 year old fucking cunt of a god fkn raghead dog
printphotos 3 weeks ago
@printphotos
This coming form teh panzy cultured reak who se countries were built on acism, screw you hypocrite, game over you projecting freak , you freaks blew up your own towers.
UT5000 3 weeks ago
@printphotos
Stop talking you projecting freak.
UT5000 2 weeks ago
@tvarma Your prophet had sex with a nine year old LOL FUCKING DUMB CUNT
printphotos 1 week ago
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@printphotos
You fag, in bible, Gen 9:18-27 they call No peace be upon him someon who was raped by his ons falsely and they called Lut incestuous and a pedophile with his daughter somewhere else, adn you civilization was built on racist slavery,lolz youa re a freak projecting your evil ways, Marriage insn't Pedophilia and Propeht Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him had one young Wife MAy Allah be pleased with her to teach, but in your book its for incestous pedophilia, you hypocrite fag.
UT5000 1 week ago
@printphotos Troll, get a life.
tvarma 1 week ago
mashallah brother :) nicely said
yacinoudz 1 month ago
garbage is always garbage!
madenew000 1 month ago
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THIS is the OBVIOUS question that destroys Islam...
What *exactly* did your "prophet" muhammad prophesy that has (or will) come to pass?
theman77777777232 1 month ago
Surah maryam tells all brother.
TheAbdur12 2 months ago
Muhammad (PBUH) never engaged sexually with Aisha (PBUH) till she was about 12!
At the time girls would get married even before that, only modern rules say that is wrong, but back then it was as normal as eating! He never RAPED her, they were married and this isnt rape, i know U.S girls that had sex when they were 12 and 13, was the guy who fucked them a rapist, NO! U say let them learn from experience!but if a guy 1400 yrs ago married a 12 year old whicj was normal hes a rapist now?!GROW UP!
lloris44 3 months ago
@lloris44 @tubeAbdullah Why are certain rules up for interpretation as culture changes, but certain other things are universal and will never change? If the Quran says marraige (and every right and obligation that comes with it) can happen with a 9 year old, then it must be allowed nowadays as well, right? I mean, forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems like certain religious rules are interpreted LITERALLY whereas others are interpreted accoding to current morals. Any explanation?
Krommak 2 months ago
@Krommak Please,next time you argue me do some research so you dont embarrass urself online,and provide evidence like WHERE THE FUCK does it say in the Quran to marry 9 year olds?And if ur referring to Mohammed(PBUH) marrying Aisha(PBUH) then ur also wrong, she didnt even live with him until she was over 15,before she was just his wife in name&and lived with her parents like any other kid!Her father BTW was Mohammeds best friend, so u can forget all that rape and infidel SHIT!
lloris44 2 months ago
@lloris44 My apologies, I must have offended you in some way. I did not state THAT the Quran allows it, but only IF the Quran allows it. I was merely reflecting on statements brought up in earlier posts. If indeed the Quran does not allow marriage with 9 year olds, that does not make the essence of my statement invalid. Why? I’ll explain it again, but then with a statement that you actually said, so that I won’t need a reference. (...see next post, not enough characters...)
Krommak 2 months ago
@lloris44 A few posts below, you said that at that time children could be married and engage in sex at an age which is considered wrong nowadays. Why do you acknowledge that development of rules in this case, but on many other cases it seems there is no other interpretation possible than the literal one? Wouldn’t it be much easier to fit your religion, or any religion in general, into society if they would allow for more change, more interpretation according to current values?
Krommak 2 months ago
@Krommak True,at that time it was normal for people to marry at a young age.Islam is the an easy religion not hard, but if u want to change everything that conflicts with American or european customs it will no longer be Islam!God put meanings in his words but not all of us understand them how theyre supposed to be.
U could think of Islam as a spiritual way to enforce laws such as not lying and killing..etc..
U didnt offend me.....
lloris44 2 months ago
@lloris44 So, if I understand you correctly, then you're basically saying that when changing Islamic rules to more modern (or Western, if you will) values, you are changing Islam itself? The rules in Islam, as they are now, identify you as a Muslim?
(on a side note: you said in your other post that I should bring up proof when I speak about Islam. Well, that is why, in my previous post, I used a statement posted earlier by yourself. That way I don't think I need proof for that.)
Krommak 2 months ago
@Krommak Exactly! What else defines Islam and makes it different from Christianity and Judaism,the rules of course.Like what specializes Christianity from Judaism different rules, thats the point of different religions or all the religions would be the same and there would actually be 1 religion!When im asked how are you a Muslim i tell them i dont eat pork or drink...etc and all the other rules!every religion has its own rules.
But so far i dont understand the point u want to prove plz explain
lloris44 2 months ago
@lloris44 Well, what I mean to ask is that certain rules or values are interpreted as they always were in Islam, but there are also rules or values that for many Muslims get a more modern interpretation. Not consuming alcohol for you is fundamental, but for other Muslims it may not be fundamental. My question is then, how do you (I mean you personally and/or Muslims in general) decide which values are fundamental to your belief, in other words which values identify you as a Muslim?
Krommak 2 months ago
@Krommak ahaa, now i understand!
Alchahol for example is clearly forbidden is Islam! i know many Muslims who drink although they know its forbidden, they didnt interpret it differently but they chose to Ignore the rule! This is known as SIN! All people commit sin whatever their religion is!God said to Muslims that if their were people without sin he would destroy them and make sinful people so that they could ask for Gods forgiveness.
lloris44 2 months ago
@Krommak But although Sin is inevitable and God forgives most sins...this doesnt mean we should commit them!God is not dumb, we dontsin and say ok god will forgive us!
But if one sinned or strayed from the right path he must ask for forgiveness and choose the right pasth. I if wanted to go to Canada i dont ride a plain for Tokyo and pray for Canada.Humans have the choice , they r not Gods puppets.God just gives us the options, we choose.Life is just a test!
lloris44 2 months ago
@lloris44 Okay, so those who drink alcohol know they commit sin, and thus the value has not changed, but it's people who sin knowingly. I think that's what you mean to say?
But then, what about the change in values from marrying and having sex with a child, which according to modern values is not allowed? You said that that was normal in that time, and it is not normal in modern times to do that. I guess (most) Muslims will also think nowadays that that is not normal, right? (cont...)
Krommak 2 months ago
@lloris44 (…continued) So, my question is why that value has changed, but a value such as the aforementioned prohibition of alcohol has not changed? Why is the first value not considered fundamental to Islam (or your interpretation of that), but the second one is? How do you decide which values or rules are fundamental?
Krommak 2 months ago
@Krommak /if u wish to know, The Quran never put an age to get married,this was left to where u live and all parties must approve the marriage.Ive live in a Muslim country for 7 years and i never heard of an 9 year old marriage,maybe 14, 15 years but not 9.This in the U.S is illegal and the Quran doesnt conflict with that if u live in US u must follow US rules of marriage.No value is greater than the other, but its easier to sin by alcohol than sin by killing for example....
lloris44 2 months ago
@Krommak but the fundamental values that u must follow are, Believing in God, Believing in Mohammed, Jesus, Moses,Ibrahim..etc..(PBUT),believing in the QUran, Gospel, Torah.
Believing in Judgment day, Believing in Gods angels, believing GOd is 1 and he isnt human never born, has no partner and no child.
The other things are more of rules not values.Rules could be broken, but without these values Islam could be easily anything BUT Islam!
Islam is defined by both the rules and values.
lloris44 2 months ago
@lloris44 its HILARIOUS you think believing in a mythical being and accepting being lied to are 'values'
islam controls by taught fears/deceit and known for its insecurity,filth,barbarity and immorality....and you are dribbling about 'values' LOL
islam SANCTIONS child marriage..and you claim you've never heard of 8yo girls given to old men
shame on you for NOT KNOWING your ummah and what goes on BECAUSE dirty prick mohammed was a pedophile
proudfemale 2 months ago
@proudfemale Apparently you don't know anything about Isalm. the prophet mohammed married that girl just in order to protect her and save her and he didn't touch her until she became a lady.It's really a shame on you to say such a thing about a prophet. is that what your religion teaches you? well let me tell you that Islam tells us to respect and believe in all the prophets including Jesus (not a god) and we DO..so next time you better talk about something you KNOW
09Ouma 1 month ago
@09Ouma Wait what? He married her at 6 years old and had sex with her at 9 years old. 9 years old is a lady? O.o That's in the books. and Furthermore during those times nobody was allowed to play with dolls after puberty and when he slept with her she was still playing with her dolls. Catch my drift?. Also, WAS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE HER? What about adoption? Or maybe handing her over to a family he trusted. I mean WAS THAT THE ONLY OPTION HE HAD? Sir you are an ignorant hypocrite.
ElectricModel 1 month ago
@ElectricModel you have so much lack of information..go and read about life in Arabia at that time and you will understand many things..and by the way adoption is forbidden in Islam...
P.S : it's better to read books about Islam in their original version , I mean ARABIC because a translated book is not always a right choice :)
09Ouma 1 month ago
@09Ouma LOL I read the quran and btw I speak arabic so I read it IN ARABIC and I studied the history of islam, arabia and all that junk. Not that I wanted to, I was forced to study that garbage when I was a kid. You can lie to people who don't speak arabic all you want however, people like me are here to tell everyone else that you are full of crap. I am saying it again, You sir are a FRAUD and your supposed prophet is also a FRAUD lol
ElectricModel 1 month ago
@ElectricModel when you were a kid?? hmm now I understand :) thank you for the clarification and for insulting me too
09Ouma 1 month ago
@ElectricModel Why do you think Islam is a fraud? or the prophet? Just out curiousity.
jamingjames 1 month ago
@jamingjames mohamed was a warlord who changed his mind about what God said when he saw fit( do some research about abrogation in islam and read the quran in chronological order NOT the order they want you to read it and you'll know what I mean).He was a pedophile no ifs or buts. If his message if for all times and ages, having sex with children is wrong then and now. Killing, beating your wife, praying to the moon God and so much more.500 characters isnt enough to do this question justice.
ElectricModel 1 month ago
@satan'sModel
no pedophile, he married his wife, something your gay priests do to children is pedophilia, no warlord he got kiqed out of his home and won it back fair, like you evil kkk wife would know, america's admit what they did to the indians were wrong so if they won it back they would be heroes you ass, wife beating is only 4 sin, usa military they rape their own girls, we prostrate to 1 God like Jesus and Moses peace be upon them, 500 charcters not enough to do your stupidity justice.
UT5000 1 month ago
@UT5000 He married a 6 years old = Pedophile. He and his moon deity tell you to kill anyone who doesn't share your belief system = a cult of nut-jobs. I like how you didn't even touch the abrogation point. I bet you've never researched your own religion you do what you're told like a mindless zombie so go beat up your wife as your false prophet and deity tell you and believe in what you want. I've done my home work, research and asked honest questions. You go ahead and Keep believing blindly
ElectricModel 1 month ago
@satan'sModel
Pepohile is force, not marriage, you don't ask honest questions because you don't talk honestly, he was a role model, its culture and he as a perfect man showed others how to be kind to women of all ages, all his other wives were older, you are an idiot, lolz blindly, i see history, see all others unite on dishonesty out of jeoulsy of the peaceful caliphate Islam formed, Islam grows w/ research, a faithless liar shouldn't call anyone zombie, lolz, you bitter, twisted fool!
UT5000 1 month ago
@ElectricModel
Abrogation only eads to somethigns better, liek how you don't talk about how they are so insecure that they pay ppl like ergun caner to lie about ISlam, is that who ou learned Slam adn english from, lozl you are a joke, you didn't ask honest questions you don't ahve honest speech, where is the warlord talk when i brogught out hte liberated his land in tehmedina phase ten years after oppresion in teMeccan one, I don't have to finish, you are a lying spinelss idiot. Ya Allah!
UT5000 1 month ago
@ElectricModel
i bet an idiot like you can only use ad hominem.
UT5000 1 month ago
@UT5000 I made you angry didn't I? The truth hurts, I get it. like I said believe what you want. Facts are facts and calling me an idiot won't change them. When you have a 6 year old daughter you go ahead and marry her to a 43 year old man to follow your role model and go to heaven. Also, make sure to honor your wife/wives by beating them when they don't obey you. Don't forget to hate anyone and everyone who disagrees with you. You have such a great role model...sarcasm is lost in chat :-)
ElectricModel 1 month ago
@Electhoe
Angry? I am comfortable w/ truth, you got tunnel vision, Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him was an exceptional man w/ many wives and taught the wisest woman and never beat his wives, not of his model. BTW you have police enforcers that beat women all the time on false pretenses, i get your ignorance makes you fear truth! INsha'Allah I'll marry an honest women who listens to truth. Islam removed racism, don't forget, be a racist hoe and neglect your creator.
UT5000 1 month ago
@UT5000 The difference between you and I is that I'm bringing forth facts from your own book. Since YOU know that there is no way to defend what your false prophet did when it comes to pretty much everything, you resort to attacking me and anyone who points out the truth to you. Believe in what you want but if you ever decide you want to do some honest research instead of following your religious monkeys blindly, shoot me a message and I'll be happy to send you pages of facts :-) Peace!
ElectricModel 1 month ago
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@ElectricModel
No not really, because it is a fact that Islam removed racism, and the non Islamic aetheist cultures were built on bloodshed/racism, and you are only making a monkey out of yourself, did you also notice that you backed off exchanging facts, not me, did you notice that you are repeating what i said, however i noticed you would use ad hominem, so the difference is that you are pleased being deaf dumb and blind as the Qu'ran describes you, the misguided hypocrites.
UT5000 4 weeks ago
@ElectricSloMo
Any quotes (lolz NO!), you been refuted, don't forget that 80% of relationships in west have abuse and 60% have adultery (reported in their tv), land of God and free but born on genocide and slavery, don't forget to sleep around all the time, then not know your baby's uncle tom dad, then adapt a kid w/ your gay lover (animals value gender more then you),then burned at a stake like a witch (sarcasm). LOLZ
Things ISLam removed
You prefer racism, hate, lies, the absence of IsLam!
UT5000 4 weeks ago
@UT5000 you realize that muslim countries have the highest rates of rape,adultery and so on they just never report them. Just because you hide something and you don't talk about it, it doesn't mean it's not happening :) Like I said you can insult me all you want. it won't change the fact that islam is a virus and it also won't make your point any stronger :) your own prophet raped a 6 year old and then called her his wife so joke's on you for following him now go beat your wife :)
ElectricModel 4 weeks ago
@Electricslomo
Because you pretend something happens doesn't mean its true, take your medication, unlike your false statistics, Islam IS fastest growing religion in the world including west, where they fade because of hate and divorce, sluthood, proven wife beatings etc, where they do it out of human weakness due to lack of spirituality, where as Muslims raise virtuous women and grow w/ love, marriage.
Jokes on you, go do an abortion and get witch hunted racist, AYE,AYE!!!
UT5000 4 weeks ago
@UT5000 islam is growing fast not because people are converting you silly. it's because muslims don't believe in birth control and they multiply like a virus that's all :) silly muslim...
ElectricModel 4 weeks ago
@Electricslomo4REAL
Questions already been answered b4 me!
Why do 20 million ppl convert every year, you look down at positives, Islam is the fastest growing religion also becasue secular bloody genocide civilizations have high abuse, divorce. You Think babies are viruses, Witch!!, its clear from your baby aborting society why you be jelous, 1/24secs. Evil! I sleep easy, just don't watch, fast in Ramadan to control yourself, don't let your husband get you, he'll beat and witch hunt you!!!
UT5000 4 weeks ago
@UT5000 LOL you're not making any sense. You're too funny! Answer my questions with convincing proof and I'll convert to islam right here right now! :) Is that fair enough?
ElectricModel 4 weeks ago
@ElectricModel hahahahahahaha they multiply in mass! there mums have 12 kids in a cat basket in one go! filthy! no wonder its statisticly growing!
dontrililikepackies1 3 weeks ago
@UT5000 Muslims have good marraiges? Ermm, they should fucking well do dont you filthy cunts have 6 wives or something? all under aged, well some grandma age some underaged! Your poor women dont have a fucking chance to get out! or im sure they would. Only reason theres no divorce is because your so damn savage there frightened to death the poor old mears!
dontrililikepackies1 3 weeks ago
@dontrililikepackies1
You dumasses have panzy marraiges and gay preists pedophiles, that is sick and then you gays adapt children. aniamls have more gender value then you, lolz, Marrying more then one wife is the way of the Prophets peace and blessings be upon them, you an oxymoronic moron, shut up, save yourself the embarassment.
Jesus christ peace be upon him was a Muslim innocent of the trintiy, which paul the assassin of Christ taught, you follow his assassin, nuff said you backward fool.
UT5000 3 weeks ago
@UT5000 an oxymoronic moron? mwa? I think not. You are highly confused if you think that Jesus was a Muslim hahaha! and 7 wives in the footsteps of your peadophile prophet? come on. Do the math! it's not adding up to me sonny boy! I think you may be slightly confused.
Tell you what, why don't you follow the heard and live in your delusions. ; It's okay though, we can't all be right! there can only be ONE and that's in Christianity. Bye bye insestual islamic terrorist jr!
dontrililikepackies1 3 weeks ago
@dontrililikepackies1
Why did Jesus peace be upon him say he as Muslim in the orignial aramaic translation, there so many different transaltions of the bible all inconsistant, why did they change teh words, because it was corrupt by the assasin Paul who you idiots, follo, what jackasses, why not listen to hitler preech the Torah, lolz.
Bye Panzy Jr.
Islam is fastest growing religion in east, west, jokes on you. So the truth does stand out you panzy freak, lolz. X-ity racist and untrustworthy.
UT5000 3 weeks ago
@UT5000 I dont know which translation your refering too my friend. There is no such book, and if there is, it was translated wrong! Trust me! He was not a Muslim lol! The only reason your relegion is fast growing is because your mothers have x10 children at a good you breed in cat litters! So obviously it's growing. Soon i'm sure the governments will cap your birth rates. As for relegion, Your book is copied massively from the original Bible, you have about 7 books..
dontrililikepackies1 3 weeks ago
@UT5000 And the prophet you follow was a theif, a pedophile and had a bunch of 9 year old wives! come on, think along the correct lines. Does that seem right to you? would you give your 9 year old child off for marriage? use your brain fool!
Truth is your books 100 percent fake accept it! Jesus was NOT a Muslim haha! nor a prophet. But the Son of God! Why dont you listen to Osama preach his terror plans, oh no wait. He's dead. For ever! oops. Fair well habu jr
dontrililikepackies1 3 weeks ago
@donuthead
Propeht Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him married widows, his only young wife was to teach MAy Allah be pleased with them.
Funny, LAdin trained by USA land of radical x-ity-KKK-judaism, terrorism , mass genocide scaling half world, salvery, racism, bloodlust, land mongering, displacement, more like teh religion of Satan, Jesus peace be upon him said he was the Propeht and that Muhammad peace and blessings be upon them was the sprirt of truth the comfortor, you read/talk lies.
UT5000 3 weeks ago
@UT5000 Do you know how silly you are writing peace this peace that. Bin Ladin was killed by Americans dummy! lol, have you not see the terror videos he put out. The Holy land of the Son of god Jesus I belive is Jerusalem, Isreal, Iran and Iraq all neighboring countrys are muslim. Christians and Jews don't like the fake relegion which is Islam, infact Isreal have vowed to wipe Iran off the map I belive. Sooner or later we will all see Who the Son of God is. Jesus!
dontrililikepackies1 2 weeks ago
@dontliketruth
Math 15:9 is a biblical book fool, its proofs you hvae no connection to true source of knoweldge, Bin ladin's death was a photoshopped pic, 9-11 was an inside job which is why wtc7 fell on its own, and fire fighters said the owners were going to pull the switch, JFK talked about shadow gov't, and jews curse Christ you idiot ever read, Talmud, you are a jackass. You're heedless to truth, trinity worship is from pagan time of ancient egypt,its on reliable sources even wikipedia.
UT5000 2 weeks ago
@UT5000 a photoshopped picture? arr hahahaha are you on crack! LOL! you are one funny little person. Please go away!
dontrililikepackies1 2 weeks ago
@dontrililikepackies1
Jesus peace eb upon him said in AMth 15:9 in vein they do worship me, you are an idiot, you have no proof, you just mumble jumbo from sources with agendas, you have no objective truth , this is why your rleigion shrinks, because people think, and your divorces take place because of lies, you guys have panzy marriages, this si why your women leave you, and oyu have high murder an d itch hunting rate, yet they still leave you , lolz
UT5000 3 weeks ago
@UT5000 Why do you quote your book though to me when Im Christian? I dont have time for your fake book. Thankyou.
dontrililikepackies1 2 weeks ago
@dontliketruth
You fag, in bible, Gen 9:18-27 they call No peace be upon him someon who was raped by his ons falsely and they called Lut incestuous and a pedophile with his daughter somewhere else, adn you civilization was built on racist slavery,lolz youa re a freak projecting your evil ways, Marriage insn't Pedophilia and Propeht Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him had one young Wife MAy Allah be pleased with her to teach, but in your book its for incestous pedophilia, you hypocrite fag.
UT5000 2 weeks ago
@UT5000 excuse me? are you speaking to me? Why dont you take your relegion too your islamic country and walk around that building of yours a few times, mean while why don't we send a plane into it! you piece of shit! shut your mouth dribble at once! Your prophet had a wife and what? please please SHUTUP you brainwashed foreigner! Fuck Off. Your relegion might be good to you, but for the rest of the world it is Not. I am Christian and proud! Now go fuck a mountain goat!!!
dontrililikepackies1 1 week ago
@dontrililikepackies1
the truth hurt you, which is why you bable curses like a beast, stop projecting your gay animal ways, why odn't you shut up you hit your own buildings, your x-ity is an evil pagan faith, the trintiy is from ancient egypt and preeched by Paul not Jesus peace be upon him. ISlam si the fastest growing faith in the world.
UT5000 1 week ago