USA empire rewards their ass lickers and punishes those who do not lick USA ass.
For example Croatia August 1995 Croatian invasion of separatist region Serbian Krajina where USA military heavy involvement 350.000 Serbs expelled text book example of ethnic cleansing.
1999 Albanian terrorists and USA army kicking Serbs out of Kosovo and rewarding Albanians with Serbian land Kosovo.
as we all now know the EU commission stated that it was Georgian agression and Russia had all the legal rights to militarily responce to Georgian agression on disputed territory where Russian troops were stationed according to peacekeeping mandate issued to Russia by UN and OSCE (EU)...
This absolutely propagandistic video,whole 16 minutes of telling us the history of abkhazia, together with how democratic they are showing young generation with their ambitions, and only 4 minutes showing Georgian side..Maybe you should have gone and asked some more Georgian refugees what they think? maybe you should also have interviewed Georgian young people? maybe you should have talked to the historians and not base your report upon on what Bagabsh and his sepratistgovernment has to say!
Что ты несёшь здесь? Это после того, как Грузия обстреляла, а затем вошла в Южную Осетию на тяжелой бронетехнике и убивала уцелевших осетин уже в подвалах. А по поводу стрельбы по "братьям", так это скажи своему мрази-саакашвили, а не Русским.
and ONLY after this people are returned to their homes-THEY CAN VOTE for INDEPENDENCY!!! who not now? because in those regions population is about 100 000 people. do you understand what i mean? it means that MAJORITY OF POPULATION OF ABKHAZIA AND SAMACHABLO ARE REFUGEES
Can you tell me how did it happen: in 1931 just under half (47%)population of Abkhazia were Abkhazs, but in 1989 they were under 18%?
About voting for independence - you think that in Estonia and Latvia in 1991 all Russians had to vote? (If they would - I'm afraid Estonia and Latvia would be called Tallin and Riga districts of RF!)
No, my friend, over 600,000 russians HAD TO LEAVE Baltic countries, and the rest didn't have voting rights- that's why they are independent now. And that is right!
So we should just ignore all the Georgian who have lived in their homeland for centuries and their voting rights and base everything on the will of Some abkhazians, who them selves are not clear do they want independence or being part of Russia? What is your answer to those people whose grandparents, and grand grandparent have lives in Gali or other ergions and now they are forced to live their homeland just because Russian federation wants to use this conflicts as the source of provocation?
I think Georgia should leave abkhaz alone. i also think that our goverment (The american government) shouldnt help Georgia opress Abkhaz. My opinion ;). Im also glad Russia is helping its neighbor. (I really wish we wouldn't get involved in other countries wars especially ones like this.)
Russia after recognition of Abchazia and South Osetia should do the same with Chechenya, North Osetia, Dagestan, Tatarstan, Kaliningrad..... They are more than Welcome!!!!!
nice that you asked for this:-) Here you have some differences: 1.Georgians were not conducting ethinic cleansing as Serbs did. 2.Kosovo is not administred and supported by one, big, hegemoneus state (vide Russia) 3.Kosovo till 1989 had a wide autonomy which were keeping down the ocnflict. Milosevic cancelled it, Kosovar became second category citizens. 4. Russian "peace keepers" in Osetia - buhhhaaaaaaaa :))))) regular -anri georgian army
LVG31. its easy to say that georgia's fault is what happened BUT: GEORGIA have 350 000 refugees not abkhazia and samachablo(S.O), which STILL are refugees after 19(!!!) years of that conflict! it means 2 things:
1.russia is not Peacekeeper in reality
2.russia is peacekeeper but CANT resolve the conflict.
in BOTH cases Russia MUST leave Georgia ALONE!!! only NATO or USA can do someething to resolve this conflict and let refugees to return to their homes
NATO and USA? That's a good one! Tell me, how many serbian refugees returned home to Kosovo after NATO and USA "did something" to resolve that conflict?
And you are very right that Russia CAN'T resolve this conflict. Nobody can. After Shevardnadze's HUGE mistake I personally don't think any "georgians-abkhazians getting together and live happily ever after" is possible.
Nato and USA can't resolve the conflict and RUssians can right? according to your logics.
YOu think that Georgian-abkhaz getting together is not possible? than what do you suggest?because as much as abkhazians are determined that they don't want to live in Georgia the same way every single Georgian is determined that we are not going to give up our land, where our ancestors lived for centuries and where our home is.start war again and turn or homeland into battelfield of Russia_USA?
Now to your point 2. So if it would be many states it would be right? Like many countries supported USA's attack on Iraq? Just one country - doesn't mean "wrong", as alliance of many - does't mean "right".
p.3. Abkhazia and S.Osetia were wide autonomies too! And according to the law, if any republic of USSR proclaimed its independence from USSR, then autonomies within that republic had a RIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE. So when Geogria went out of USSR in 1990, Abkhazia and S.Osetia held referendum
(cont) where they voted for independence from Georgia. The answer of Gamsahurdia's nazi government was war.
"Kosovars became 2nd category citizens" - that's a true difference! Abkhazs and S.Osetins would never consider Georgian citizenship - it's an offence for them.
p.4 "Russian "peace keepers" in Osetia - buhhhaaa"
From 1994 Russia sent its peace keepers there on UN mandate. And true peace keepers they were - unlike EU's in Serbia where they never stopped war - just watched!
U know, iv'e heard that the world is gna end in December 2012 n after seeing wats going on in iraq and watching this, i definitely think is a possibiltiy every country is gna start going at it with each other then the nukes are gna start flying and the world will be done...
Russia wouldn't have looked bad if they would have stayed in the disputed areas. instead they send 20,000 soldiers and 500 tanks supported by migs and takeover cities and major ports of Georgias. Thats when it turned from self defence into an invasion. and when russias last pres. was a former KGB agent and 'self appointed' prime minister do you think the west will trust russia? and yeah georgia did kill civilians, but russians and S. Ossetians did as well. very sad.
This is USA war.
USA empire rewards their ass lickers and punishes those who do not lick USA ass.
For example Croatia August 1995 Croatian invasion of separatist region Serbian Krajina where USA military heavy involvement 350.000 Serbs expelled text book example of ethnic cleansing.
1999 Albanian terrorists and USA army kicking Serbs out of Kosovo and rewarding Albanians with Serbian land Kosovo.
aviomaster 6 months ago
as we all now know the EU commission stated that it was Georgian agression and Russia had all the legal rights to militarily responce to Georgian agression on disputed territory where Russian troops were stationed according to peacekeeping mandate issued to Russia by UN and OSCE (EU)...
gre556 1 year ago
when war criminal Saakashvili will be finally put to Justice?
gre556 1 year ago
08.12 Only in the bloc(s) is vodka a 'life staple'. Hardcore!
sillymoney1 1 year ago
Kosovo is Serbia , Thank you Russia , Slava Russia ,,
Eye for an eye , tooth for a tooth.
USA bombed SERBIA for 78 days ,, USA zionist presidents and leaders , will STOP at nothing to control the world.
aviomaster 2 years ago 8
This absolutely propagandistic video,whole 16 minutes of telling us the history of abkhazia, together with how democratic they are showing young generation with their ambitions, and only 4 minutes showing Georgian side..Maybe you should have gone and asked some more Georgian refugees what they think? maybe you should also have interviewed Georgian young people? maybe you should have talked to the historians and not base your report upon on what Bagabsh and his sepratistgovernment has to say!
Sophiegeo 3 years ago
Русские оккупанты должны покинуть территорию Грузии!!!
Мы, абхазы, просим Россию покинуть территорию Грузии, так как Грузия наша родина и мы не хотим воевать против своих братьев!!!
GeoAbkhazeti01 3 years ago
GeoAbkhazeti01,
Что ты несёшь здесь? Это после того, как Грузия обстреляла, а затем вошла в Южную Осетию на тяжелой бронетехнике и убивала уцелевших осетин уже в подвалах. А по поводу стрельбы по "братьям", так это скажи своему мрази-саакашвили, а не Русским.
NAZIMALIEV 2 years ago
Bravo Russian heroes and Putin for liberating Abkhazia.
Killazer 3 years ago
Georgia's example of democracy?
Saakashvili is a dictator and war criminal
GOOGLE FOR AN ARTICLE IN CSMONITOR
"I survived the Georgian war. Here's what I saw"
HerrMoppel 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
US-americans are starting to realize that they were supporting a criminal regime in Georgia.
watch?v=vIZu-rLLtlY
junkformen 3 years ago
and ONLY after this people are returned to their homes-THEY CAN VOTE for INDEPENDENCY!!! who not now? because in those regions population is about 100 000 people. do you understand what i mean? it means that MAJORITY OF POPULATION OF ABKHAZIA AND SAMACHABLO ARE REFUGEES
levmans 3 years ago
Can you tell me how did it happen: in 1931 just under half (47%)population of Abkhazia were Abkhazs, but in 1989 they were under 18%?
About voting for independence - you think that in Estonia and Latvia in 1991 all Russians had to vote? (If they would - I'm afraid Estonia and Latvia would be called Tallin and Riga districts of RF!)
No, my friend, over 600,000 russians HAD TO LEAVE Baltic countries, and the rest didn't have voting rights- that's why they are independent now. And that is right!
LVG31 3 years ago
So we should just ignore all the Georgian who have lived in their homeland for centuries and their voting rights and base everything on the will of Some abkhazians, who them selves are not clear do they want independence or being part of Russia? What is your answer to those people whose grandparents, and grand grandparent have lives in Gali or other ergions and now they are forced to live their homeland just because Russian federation wants to use this conflicts as the source of provocation?
Sophiegeo 3 years ago
I think Georgia should leave abkhaz alone. i also think that our goverment (The american government) shouldnt help Georgia opress Abkhaz. My opinion ;). Im also glad Russia is helping its neighbor. (I really wish we wouldn't get involved in other countries wars especially ones like this.)
destroyerdragon2002 3 years ago 2
Russia after recognition of Abchazia and South Osetia should do the same with Chechenya, North Osetia, Dagestan, Tatarstan, Kaliningrad..... They are more than Welcome!!!!!
frompolandwithlove 3 years ago 2
Then Poland and Belgium should recognise Abkhazia and S. Osetia after they recognised Kosovo.
LVG31 3 years ago
nice that you asked for this:-) Here you have some differences: 1.Georgians were not conducting ethinic cleansing as Serbs did. 2.Kosovo is not administred and supported by one, big, hegemoneus state (vide Russia) 3.Kosovo till 1989 had a wide autonomy which were keeping down the ocnflict. Milosevic cancelled it, Kosovar became second category citizens. 4. Russian "peace keepers" in Osetia - buhhhaaaaaaaa :))))) regular -anri georgian army
frompolandwithlove 3 years ago
1."We must return our territories even if it means DESTROYING or driving away every single one of Osetian bastards from our land!" (June 2008).
2."Abkhazians are not a nation. They are just a branch of northern Georgians."(2005)
3."Georgia must be ONLY FOR GEORGIANS!"(1989)
Guess who said? Presidents of Georgia! 1,2 - Saakashvili, 3- Gamsahurdia.
No ethnic cleansing?! AFTER Georgian agression of 1991-1992 none indeed . Russian peace keepers do not allow such things.
LVG31 3 years ago
LVG31. its easy to say that georgia's fault is what happened BUT: GEORGIA have 350 000 refugees not abkhazia and samachablo(S.O), which STILL are refugees after 19(!!!) years of that conflict! it means 2 things:
1.russia is not Peacekeeper in reality
2.russia is peacekeeper but CANT resolve the conflict.
in BOTH cases Russia MUST leave Georgia ALONE!!! only NATO or USA can do someething to resolve this conflict and let refugees to return to their homes
levmans 3 years ago
NATO and USA? That's a good one! Tell me, how many serbian refugees returned home to Kosovo after NATO and USA "did something" to resolve that conflict?
And you are very right that Russia CAN'T resolve this conflict. Nobody can. After Shevardnadze's HUGE mistake I personally don't think any "georgians-abkhazians getting together and live happily ever after" is possible.
LVG31 3 years ago
Nato and USA can't resolve the conflict and RUssians can right? according to your logics.
YOu think that Georgian-abkhaz getting together is not possible? than what do you suggest?because as much as abkhazians are determined that they don't want to live in Georgia the same way every single Georgian is determined that we are not going to give up our land, where our ancestors lived for centuries and where our home is.start war again and turn or homeland into battelfield of Russia_USA?
Sophiegeo 3 years ago
Now to your point 2. So if it would be many states it would be right? Like many countries supported USA's attack on Iraq? Just one country - doesn't mean "wrong", as alliance of many - does't mean "right".
p.3. Abkhazia and S.Osetia were wide autonomies too! And according to the law, if any republic of USSR proclaimed its independence from USSR, then autonomies within that republic had a RIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE. So when Geogria went out of USSR in 1990, Abkhazia and S.Osetia held referendum
LVG31 3 years ago
(cont) where they voted for independence from Georgia. The answer of Gamsahurdia's nazi government was war.
"Kosovars became 2nd category citizens" - that's a true difference! Abkhazs and S.Osetins would never consider Georgian citizenship - it's an offence for them.
p.4 "Russian "peace keepers" in Osetia - buhhhaaa"
From 1994 Russia sent its peace keepers there on UN mandate. And true peace keepers they were - unlike EU's in Serbia where they never stopped war - just watched!
LVG31 3 years ago
U know, iv'e heard that the world is gna end in December 2012 n after seeing wats going on in iraq and watching this, i definitely think is a possibiltiy every country is gna start going at it with each other then the nukes are gna start flying and the world will be done...
AirasscloWN 3 years ago
Russia wouldn't have looked bad if they would have stayed in the disputed areas. instead they send 20,000 soldiers and 500 tanks supported by migs and takeover cities and major ports of Georgias. Thats when it turned from self defence into an invasion. and when russias last pres. was a former KGB agent and 'self appointed' prime minister do you think the west will trust russia? and yeah georgia did kill civilians, but russians and S. Ossetians did as well. very sad.
1jsummer 3 years ago
Brilliant logic. So according to you, allies should have end the war before Nazi Germany's borders.
Russia had to ensure destroying Georgian military bases in Gori, Poti and around Tbilisi.
LVG31 3 years ago
Good report! Not a propaganda at all. It is unbiased and objective. GOOD JOB!
igor9rus 3 years ago 6
USA and EU propaganda
supmylo9 3 years ago
disinformation
antiwestpropaganda 3 years ago
Georgia (backed by the US) attacked Ossetia.
HerrMoppel 3 years ago
stupid western garbage,
georgia started the war its a known fact
1200chan 3 years ago
Long live independent Abkhazia !
I want to return to Sukhum and meet with my friends there !
Saaka sucks.
zapoi67 3 years ago
There is no democracy in Georgia.
Saakashvili is a dictator and an American Puppet.
Why don't you show how Georgian soldiers were dropping cluster bombs against unarmed women and children in Tshinvali?
Mazurka7 3 years ago
This is such crap.
GEORGIA started this with U.S. backing.
PureFaux 3 years ago 4
finally a two-sided report
AndyNamel 3 years ago
stupid propaganda
kotov12345 3 years ago 2
disinformation
zombieseezombiedo 3 years ago