@macktheknife888: If peace is the true desire, the wrongs must be righted first. If I broke into your house and kidnapped your kids and raped and murdered your wife and the next year or so came back to you and said I won't do it again. Would that be enough for you? You would want justice right? There are still people alive who killed innocent people in the late 60's early 70's who never paid for their crimes. They were tried by biased juries and let go. Why don't we deserve justice?
My dear friend, your heart seeks justice, but be careful what kind of justice you seek. Ask yourself, which country have the highest murder and rape count? It is Africa. Look at it from this angle. If the white man never wanted slaves from Africa then you mum and dad, grand dad and so on, might have been murdred by blackmen, your own kind. Better to be a slave, than a dead native. Yes, being a slave, they were not free, but the way of Africa has always been the same, control, murder, rape.
If you look at the world, who is the one stealing killing raping and murdering on a grand scale? It is the European nations. They are responsible for the deplorable conditions in the so-called third world countries because they have gone there and pillaged and destabilized the countries. It is known that the CIA is involved in starting wars in these countries. I'm not saying that there wouldn't be murder and rape without them but you are pretending that white hands are clean and they're not
No, what i am saying is would your family tree be better off living in Africa, than being slaves in the US. Think about it my friend. Even though your family tree there are slaves, if they were not, they could have been murdered by your own kind. So, in a way, we have done your family tree a favor, yes it is better to be free, but free from what, ask yourself. Your family tree might have been slaves, but i believe they were safer as slaves in the US then in Africa with all those murders around.
It's just like your people to say that. "Yeah we raped and killed and segregated and stereotyped and made up lies about you but at least you aren't in africa." Africa wouldn't be so bad without the whites stealing their resources. The stealing of resources and the wars to take over and colonize africa by the europeans is what caused the conditions that we see today. There is no way to take your people out of the equation. It would be different without interference from whites.
Look at it this way. I am from the united kingdom. In the past, you know, the kings army when in the US in the year 1775, when they found slaves, they gave the slaves the right to serve the king, and be free from slavery. I believe that slavery is wrong, i believe that we can work as one, just like the kings army freeing them from the slavery of the yanks, and working together as one. In the british army in the year 1775 the black man could move up in rank, just like a white man, my friend.
The answer (when you count the murders that they commit at home and abroad) is America. The thing is that most white americans have this idea that usa has always been a "good christian" country but that's not true. There is rape and murder in Africa and all over the world but look who's hands are usually involved in starting the wars to destabilize those so-called third world countries. Then sit back and point the finger as if they have clean hands. Wolves in sheeps clothing.
mac where did you get that info that is rubbish its sad that people actually believe such foolishness control murder and rape are a part not of white culture per say(sp) but are part and partial with the building of the West
The fact is western culture has nothing to do with being white but all all to do with having the freedom to pursuing your own happiness as an person. Ultimately, it's not group Vs. group in this world, it's all groups Vs. YOU. The greatest of all minorities in this world is the individual.
@UNSUNGBAND Happiness can only be experienced by the individual. There's no such thing as the collective mind. The desire to be free is the desire to not lead nor follow. Anyone who tells you any different is either trying to dump THEIR responsibly on to you or trying to chain you to your fellow man for THEIR benefit and is the true propagandist .
@MariluLane our mind state has enabled us to live on the planet for thousands of years,that is the problem with the west ,YOu only see what is before your eyes,nothing more
who are you talking about you demented idiot? do you realise that your race suffers from early dementia more than any other?? this is why you have imposed these freakish tortures on other people ever since you arrived on OUR planet.
and now you are polluting it with your shit spewing out on to OUR environment. the biggest fucking greedy bastards in the world are making the most pollution. the global community feels sick about you now. when are you going to realise the shit game is over???
We are quick to define certain countries as developed and others developing withou establishing the 300-500 years of colonialism,slavery,genocide and looting of resources belonging to the countries we now term developing.
USA,Britain,France,the Netherlands,Spain and all the countries who benefited from slavery should realise the wrongful acts commited by their forefathers and make reparations to those who were wronged.
Don't forget about the "native Americans". They owned slaves as well. In fact they had slaves some 50 years after it became outlawed in the rest of the states. Rulers in Africa also greatly benefited for the slave trade as well as china. Remember the brits went after the Chinese slave ships and ended the slave trade at sea. Will they get a refund or be comped for doing so?
the original navitive americans were black; in fact most of the slaves in america were these black native americans; it is a myth they we come here from africa. the route was in reverse slaves went from america to africa and then to europe.
that doesn't matter. the fact is that they started the slave trade (triangle trade of the Africans) and just because they chased down some chinese slave ships, you think that makes it all better? who cares where the word came from?
Right money they did it because it was no longer adventagous to undergo it the same as the supposed freeing of the slaves throughout the world,it was not some philanthropic effort as if they suddenly had a moment of clarity,and your statement that they didn't start it is ridiculous,also the constant slave revolts had quite a bit to do with abolition Haiti discouraged many
"Your statement that they didn't start it is ridiculous"
I would have to say to you that don't know your facts. Slavery is as old as the dawn of man kind and the dawn of man kind happen Africa.
Yes, there was no moment of clarity. No "group think" or massive Gov't action that lead to it's down fall. Slavery's down fall was when Gov't started to step out of the way and allow free people to pursue there own happiness as individuals.
How can we make reparations to those who were wronged, it was so long ago, they are all dead by now. Besides, this is the past, look to the future. How long does it take for black people to forget the wrongs of the past, we have all done wrong, it does not matter if you are black, white, yellow or brown, we have all done wrong. But, it would be wrong to keep dragging up the past wrongs again, and again. If we want to live in a future of peace and love, we must come together as one God willing.
Murder, rape, mutilation and other crimes against humanity quite often have no statute of limitation, and certainly the lasting vestiges of all these crimes against humanity are ogoing and need to be addressed in the courts, and by the government.
It wasn't as long ago as you think. my grandfather was raised by an ex-slave. he was born in 1926 and just died. so that means he lived through segregation. there are more people like him. Rosa Parks just died a few years back. How long will it take you to forget 9/11? How long before the jews forget the holocaust? Why is it that the only ones who are supposed to forget the killing of their forefathers is us? It was just taken out of law a few decades ago that we were considered 3/5 of a man
All the things about the slavery was about money.People made money from slavery.Slaves worked years but did not get any pay for the wealth they helped to creat.Those who are enjoying the wealth through inheritance should be made to give part to the descendants of the slaves who now live in poverty in America,the Caribbean and AFRICA.
oh my goodnes what a bunch of slavery-supporting demented freakshows that have commented on here. i wish i was nicer, but i'm not....
MariluLane 2 years ago
"slavery-supporting" Do you have any rational thinking behind that insult, you wish to share?
I could care less about the rest of them.
yammyspeed13 2 years ago
@MariluLane ..DID YOU CHOKE ON YOU TONGUE YET...HOPE YOU ARE DEAD FROM DROWNING IN YOUR SLOBBER RACIST JERK..
smokeykeita 3 months ago
@smokeykeita what evil you wish will come back to you. there ya go satan!!!!!!!!!! choke on your own evil!!!!!!!
MariluLane 1 month ago
@macktheknife888: If peace is the true desire, the wrongs must be righted first. If I broke into your house and kidnapped your kids and raped and murdered your wife and the next year or so came back to you and said I won't do it again. Would that be enough for you? You would want justice right? There are still people alive who killed innocent people in the late 60's early 70's who never paid for their crimes. They were tried by biased juries and let go. Why don't we deserve justice?
dawatcha100 2 years ago
My dear friend, your heart seeks justice, but be careful what kind of justice you seek. Ask yourself, which country have the highest murder and rape count? It is Africa. Look at it from this angle. If the white man never wanted slaves from Africa then you mum and dad, grand dad and so on, might have been murdred by blackmen, your own kind. Better to be a slave, than a dead native. Yes, being a slave, they were not free, but the way of Africa has always been the same, control, murder, rape.
macktheknife888 2 years ago
If you look at the world, who is the one stealing killing raping and murdering on a grand scale? It is the European nations. They are responsible for the deplorable conditions in the so-called third world countries because they have gone there and pillaged and destabilized the countries. It is known that the CIA is involved in starting wars in these countries. I'm not saying that there wouldn't be murder and rape without them but you are pretending that white hands are clean and they're not
dawatcha100 2 years ago
No, what i am saying is would your family tree be better off living in Africa, than being slaves in the US. Think about it my friend. Even though your family tree there are slaves, if they were not, they could have been murdered by your own kind. So, in a way, we have done your family tree a favor, yes it is better to be free, but free from what, ask yourself. Your family tree might have been slaves, but i believe they were safer as slaves in the US then in Africa with all those murders around.
macktheknife888 2 years ago
It's just like your people to say that. "Yeah we raped and killed and segregated and stereotyped and made up lies about you but at least you aren't in africa." Africa wouldn't be so bad without the whites stealing their resources. The stealing of resources and the wars to take over and colonize africa by the europeans is what caused the conditions that we see today. There is no way to take your people out of the equation. It would be different without interference from whites.
dawatcha100 2 years ago
Look at it this way. I am from the united kingdom. In the past, you know, the kings army when in the US in the year 1775, when they found slaves, they gave the slaves the right to serve the king, and be free from slavery. I believe that slavery is wrong, i believe that we can work as one, just like the kings army freeing them from the slavery of the yanks, and working together as one. In the british army in the year 1775 the black man could move up in rank, just like a white man, my friend.
macktheknife888 2 years ago
The answer (when you count the murders that they commit at home and abroad) is America. The thing is that most white americans have this idea that usa has always been a "good christian" country but that's not true. There is rape and murder in Africa and all over the world but look who's hands are usually involved in starting the wars to destabilize those so-called third world countries. Then sit back and point the finger as if they have clean hands. Wolves in sheeps clothing.
dawatcha100 2 years ago
mac where did you get that info that is rubbish its sad that people actually believe such foolishness control murder and rape are a part not of white culture per say(sp) but are part and partial with the building of the West
richbullva 2 years ago
Thanks, I needed a good laugh today!
Go compare the murder rate of other cultures vs the western cultures.
In Africa, rape and murder are the norm and it's been that way for thousands of years even before any white man set food in that place.
yammyspeed13 2 years ago
The fact is western culture has nothing to do with being white but all all to do with having the freedom to pursuing your own happiness as an person. Ultimately, it's not group Vs. group in this world, it's all groups Vs. YOU. The greatest of all minorities in this world is the individual.
yammyspeed13 2 years ago
@yammyspeed13 That's the nicest piece of propaganda I've read in a long time. What a joke. American culture and freedom?? YEAH RIGHT.
UNSUNGBAND 1 year ago
@UNSUNGBAND Happiness can only be experienced by the individual. There's no such thing as the collective mind. The desire to be free is the desire to not lead nor follow. Anyone who tells you any different is either trying to dump THEIR responsibly on to you or trying to chain you to your fellow man for THEIR benefit and is the true propagandist .
yammyspeed13 1 year ago
your people are psychotic.
MariluLane 2 years ago
@yammyspeed13 YOU POOR DIRTY RACIST RAT ...YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO AFRICA ...HOW DO YOU KNOW ALBINO MONKEY.
smokeykeita 3 months ago
i dont think so freakshow
MariluLane 2 years ago
@MariluLane our mind state has enabled us to live on the planet for thousands of years,that is the problem with the west ,YOu only see what is before your eyes,nothing more
richbullva 2 years ago
who are you talking about you demented idiot? do you realise that your race suffers from early dementia more than any other?? this is why you have imposed these freakish tortures on other people ever since you arrived on OUR planet.
and now you are polluting it with your shit spewing out on to OUR environment. the biggest fucking greedy bastards in the world are making the most pollution. the global community feels sick about you now. when are you going to realise the shit game is over???
MariluLane 2 years ago
@MariluLane dude that ws't for me what are you talkng about
richbullva 2 years ago
@MariluLane ..You RACIST BASTARD I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON YOUR OWN TONGUE...
smokeykeita 3 months ago
We are quick to define certain countries as developed and others developing withou establishing the 300-500 years of colonialism,slavery,genocide and looting of resources belonging to the countries we now term developing.
politicalthinker 3 years ago
USA,Britain,France,the Netherlands,Spain and all the countries who benefited from slavery should realise the wrongful acts commited by their forefathers and make reparations to those who were wronged.
politicalthinker 3 years ago
Don't forget about the "native Americans". They owned slaves as well. In fact they had slaves some 50 years after it became outlawed in the rest of the states. Rulers in Africa also greatly benefited for the slave trade as well as china. Remember the brits went after the Chinese slave ships and ended the slave trade at sea. Will they get a refund or be comped for doing so?
yammyspeed13 2 years ago
the original navitive americans were black; in fact most of the slaves in america were these black native americans; it is a myth they we come here from africa. the route was in reverse slaves went from america to africa and then to europe.
rjohson 2 years ago
Natives from the Americanas werent black haha. They were a tanned skinned race.
LeviFOE 2 years ago 5
well im considered black my color is brown, what im saying is walk the streets of harlem and thats what the original native americans looked like
rjohson 2 years ago
@LeviFOE but they had a colored skin which was catorigized as black.
paigealyssa1 6 months ago
what's that prove? they started it so why would that mean they should be comped for that?
dawatcha100 2 years ago
Started slavery? Do you even know were the word SLAVE came from?
yammyspeed13 2 years ago
that doesn't matter. the fact is that they started the slave trade (triangle trade of the Africans) and just because they chased down some chinese slave ships, you think that makes it all better? who cares where the word came from?
dawatcha100 2 years ago
The fact is Europeans didn't start the slave trade, they ended it.
yammyspeed13 2 years ago
yammy that was funny as hell,and why did they end it may i ask?
richbullva 2 years ago
Capitalism.
Copy, paste, search, "Milton Friedman on Slavery and Colonization"
yammyspeed13 2 years ago
Right money they did it because it was no longer adventagous to undergo it the same as the supposed freeing of the slaves throughout the world,it was not some philanthropic effort as if they suddenly had a moment of clarity,and your statement that they didn't start it is ridiculous,also the constant slave revolts had quite a bit to do with abolition Haiti discouraged many
richbullva 2 years ago
"Your statement that they didn't start it is ridiculous"
I would have to say to you that don't know your facts. Slavery is as old as the dawn of man kind and the dawn of man kind happen Africa.
Yes, there was no moment of clarity. No "group think" or massive Gov't action that lead to it's down fall. Slavery's down fall was when Gov't started to step out of the way and allow free people to pursue there own happiness as individuals.
yammyspeed13 2 years ago
that is just not true dude and its sad that you believe that
richbullva 2 years ago
@yammyspeed13
I knew he would show up sooner or later. And here he is: Milton Friedman and his apologetics for American slavery.
You worthless fucks never give the fuck up, do you?
To quote Woody Guthrie: "All of you fasscists bound to lose / you're bound to lose / bound to lose "
bapyou 6 months ago
yeah and you're mental
MariluLane 2 years ago
How can we make reparations to those who were wronged, it was so long ago, they are all dead by now. Besides, this is the past, look to the future. How long does it take for black people to forget the wrongs of the past, we have all done wrong, it does not matter if you are black, white, yellow or brown, we have all done wrong. But, it would be wrong to keep dragging up the past wrongs again, and again. If we want to live in a future of peace and love, we must come together as one God willing.
macktheknife888 2 years ago
Murder, rape, mutilation and other crimes against humanity quite often have no statute of limitation, and certainly the lasting vestiges of all these crimes against humanity are ogoing and need to be addressed in the courts, and by the government.
DIOP1 2 years ago
It wasn't as long ago as you think. my grandfather was raised by an ex-slave. he was born in 1926 and just died. so that means he lived through segregation. there are more people like him. Rosa Parks just died a few years back. How long will it take you to forget 9/11? How long before the jews forget the holocaust? Why is it that the only ones who are supposed to forget the killing of their forefathers is us? It was just taken out of law a few decades ago that we were considered 3/5 of a man
dawatcha100 2 years ago
i agree
dawatcha100 2 years ago
All the things about the slavery was about money.People made money from slavery.Slaves worked years but did not get any pay for the wealth they helped to creat.Those who are enjoying the wealth through inheritance should be made to give part to the descendants of the slaves who now live in poverty in America,the Caribbean and AFRICA.
politicalthinker 3 years ago 3