His audience seems uncertain where every joke is going until he makes it explicit. Odd because I get where he's headed exactly and agree with everything he said.
People forget that we had to be sold on the idea of a nation (by using us-and-them categorization), and it took centuries to get us to give enough of a shit about a "country" to actually volunteer to die for one. I'm a veteran but I always saw the bullshit, we rarely fight for worthy causes, more often for someone else's disproportionate gain. These days most of "who we are" is made up bullshit anyway, basically arbitrary or simplistic categories to help us decide how to treat each other, dumb.
@theshow2k8 Nationalism is an outdated concept. Our actions, even on a national level have an effect on the entire world. Even retard politicians know that we live in a global society, even if they don't act like it. Work and national productivity are the only things we should hold on to, and once we live in a truly wealthy society we will have the power to bring up the entire world's standard of living. Otherwise we can make Stanhope drink hemlock potion.
It is only because we live in a peaceful era that you have the luxury of thinking this way. When times are hard people revert to tribalism. By nature people prefer people that look and act the same way as they do. It's an innate part of human nature and nationalism is a reflection of this. It's not going away, fact is it never will.
@sneeptheelite That's a copout. Like an infamous Navy SEAL said, "fuck human nature." Humans are animals, but learn most behavior. It is in our nature to categorize, but how these are determined and acted upon is culturally determined. Obviously we all defend ourselves by reflex, but to kill strangers requires ideology, homicide is not natural, it has to be learned (hence boot camp). Categories are subjective: "hard times" (enough to hurt others?), who is or isn't in my "tribe", etc. All change.
@theshow2k8 Nationalism was made up by monarchs. Even the oldest nations aren't that old compared to human history. Categories got bigger and stakes higher as population grew in "civilized" areas and there was uneven growth in demand and technology: competition. Elites using ideology to impose social control established a paradigm of constant war between factions that over time became "nations". Someone gets greedy for wealth, status, power and the killing starts. People fight but nations war.
"Nationalism does nothing but teach you how to hate people that you've never met, and all of the sudden you take pride in accomplishments you had no part in whatsoever." -Doug Stanhope
@ninjajesus81 Oh yeah. That's one I hear a lot, too (who doesn't?) and I point it out on occasion to the person who says it. On occasion being most times, actually. I don't bother when it is someone who I think might not understand.
@ninjajesus81 Usually said by an obese guy with a pitcher of beer in his hand wearing an ill-fitting jersey with the name of some D-Bag athlete with a criminal record, who couldn't do a pushup to save himself from castration.
His audience seems uncertain where every joke is going until he makes it explicit. Odd because I get where he's headed exactly and agree with everything he said.
WalterLiddy 2 weeks ago
this guys really good.
propjam2 2 weeks ago
I suppose that either americans have a different view on nationalism or simply don't understand the true meaning of this term...
RudolphAlder 2 months ago
@RudolphAlder So give us a definition. It sounds to me like it's you who doesn't understand.
WalterLiddy 2 weeks ago
@WalterLiddy americans will never understand it... no use of explaining.
RudolphAlder 2 weeks ago
@RudolphAlder try it on a norwegian then
BIasphemer 1 week ago
@RudolphAlder alright take your time....you must not have a dictionary with you or some shit...
sirklondike303 6 days ago 2
I didn't know this guy, but I think he rocks
Ulfnarr 4 months ago
Hahaha... definition of "loser": ordering food at a drive-thru and finding out you have no money.
pratikh 6 months ago
People forget that we had to be sold on the idea of a nation (by using us-and-them categorization), and it took centuries to get us to give enough of a shit about a "country" to actually volunteer to die for one. I'm a veteran but I always saw the bullshit, we rarely fight for worthy causes, more often for someone else's disproportionate gain. These days most of "who we are" is made up bullshit anyway, basically arbitrary or simplistic categories to help us decide how to treat each other, dumb.
inthebiscuits 8 months ago
Most people who bitch about immigrants and taxation DON'T EVEN PAY INCOME TAXES. If you get a refund equal to your with holding, you need to STFU.
pretorious700 9 months ago
this is a carlin bit, but i still like it
mbear14 9 months ago
genius
DasFunkwagen 10 months ago
I'm a nationalist but this is funny......wrong.....but funny.
theshow2k8 10 months ago
@theshow2k8 Nationalism is an outdated concept. Our actions, even on a national level have an effect on the entire world. Even retard politicians know that we live in a global society, even if they don't act like it. Work and national productivity are the only things we should hold on to, and once we live in a truly wealthy society we will have the power to bring up the entire world's standard of living. Otherwise we can make Stanhope drink hemlock potion.
MrThefish86 10 months ago
@MrThefish86
It is only because we live in a peaceful era that you have the luxury of thinking this way. When times are hard people revert to tribalism. By nature people prefer people that look and act the same way as they do. It's an innate part of human nature and nationalism is a reflection of this. It's not going away, fact is it never will.
sneeptheelite 10 months ago
@sneeptheelite That's a copout. Like an infamous Navy SEAL said, "fuck human nature." Humans are animals, but learn most behavior. It is in our nature to categorize, but how these are determined and acted upon is culturally determined. Obviously we all defend ourselves by reflex, but to kill strangers requires ideology, homicide is not natural, it has to be learned (hence boot camp). Categories are subjective: "hard times" (enough to hurt others?), who is or isn't in my "tribe", etc. All change.
inthebiscuits 8 months ago
@theshow2k8 Nationalism was made up by monarchs. Even the oldest nations aren't that old compared to human history. Categories got bigger and stakes higher as population grew in "civilized" areas and there was uneven growth in demand and technology: competition. Elites using ideology to impose social control established a paradigm of constant war between factions that over time became "nations". Someone gets greedy for wealth, status, power and the killing starts. People fight but nations war.
inthebiscuits 7 months ago
I only found out about this guy today - the more videos of him I watch the better he fuckin' gets.
Joshua001A 11 months ago
You know what chaps my ass barry
scavenger4life 1 year ago 3
Watch derick jenson identification
9000nickhtube 1 year ago
"Nationalism does nothing but teach you how to hate people that you've never met, and all of the sudden you take pride in accomplishments you had no part in whatsoever." -Doug Stanhope
ericfontainejazz 1 year ago 27
People also identify with a sports team. "We beat your ass". No, you just watched the fuckin game, you didn't do shit.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago 41
@ninjajesus81 Oh yeah. That's one I hear a lot, too (who doesn't?) and I point it out on occasion to the person who says it. On occasion being most times, actually. I don't bother when it is someone who I think might not understand.
Pushtrak 1 year ago 4
@ninjajesus81 Usually said by an obese guy with a pitcher of beer in his hand wearing an ill-fitting jersey with the name of some D-Bag athlete with a criminal record, who couldn't do a pushup to save himself from castration.
TreachMarkets 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81 yeah, what position did you play? oh, you just drank beer and shouted at the tv.
tinanade 10 months ago
Probably one of my favorites. Amazing application of the stanhope gun! <3
TrueEmergence 1 year ago 6
Stanhope would deflate so many peoples ego's and self importance. I love how he gives everyone a reality check.
howlbigbadwolf 1 year ago 12
@howlbigbadwolf I can't even remember how I found out about him. Love his stuff and happy I did find out about him however it was.
Pushtrak 1 year ago