i cannot hear this communist over the sound of freedom and prosperity and opportunity offered by capitalism. imperfect but better than anything else. eat it, revolutionaries.
how about you learn somthing...americans kill dirty fucking dog shit reds like you...wonder why...might want to find out or forever be a stupid red unable to think for urself....oh wait thats the whole idea of being a red is you dont think...well enjoy makeing every single death for americas freedom worthless..well untill ur blood is spilled
@buddymac201 That's not the idea of revolutionary Marxism. I'm not a Trotskyist but I am a Marxist. It's not an I'm right your wrong thing, or forcing people to follow you.
Lenin didn't know stalin would take power the man who was to take over was trotsky but stalin ecused him of treason and deported him to mexico so lenin had good intentions.
I used to be a Trotskyist. I realized that if Lenin was some kind of guardian of democracy as Trotsky said, why would he create a state with unlimited potential for bloodshed and political repression. If Trotsky really wanted someone else besides Stalin to blame for the nightmare the USSR became, look at Lenin! He created the structure of the state which gave Stalin unlimited power.
So I became a Luxemburgist with anarcho-syndicalist tendencies.
@commissarusa : I think that's pretty convincing. I nearly had the same thoughts and the same developement. Trotsky and Lenin had some great ideas, but they were violent authoritarians after all. I don't want to say you shouldn't read their writings, you can still learn a lot from thei theories, and you definitely should learn something from their practical mistakes, which is that trying to change society in a violent/authoritarian way makes it even worse. Forcing people to be free is paradox ;)
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Stay away from all Communist and Socialist parties! they are all funded by the Capitalists. I agree with the ideas of Communism but unfortunately since Marx the movement has been funded and controlled by the bankers. funny how the "left" and "right" are fighting each other instead of fighting the powers that be!
This is one that this out there, that the banks just fund the communists etc. This is, however, not true. And communists are the only real possibility of doing away with a system that brutally exploits, oppresses and murders people here and all over the world. Check out the RCP and what Bob Avakian is putting out, a re-envisioned revolution and communism that re-opens the possibility of making revolution here and getting to communism. google: revolution newspaper and bobavakiandotnet.
@buddhagem No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. Planned economy is the epitome of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
Whom we include in our label matters, not only for this kind of elated value of clarity in language, but also for the practical reason that an idea's credibility is on the line. I mean, would you include National Socialists in the club of "we Socialists"?
But I think you missed the point of my first comment anyways. I think, generally speaking, the Personist varieties of Socialism tend to be more authoritarian and centralized in practice, since they often revolve around a cult of personality. While non-Personist varieties, like anarchism or council communism, generally lack such a cult of personality, and are thus more liberatory in spirit.
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i cannot hear this communist over the sound of freedom and prosperity and opportunity offered by capitalism. imperfect but better than anything else. eat it, revolutionaries.
chrispollock 9 months ago
LOL. A bunch of Trot revisionists. League for a REVISIONIST Party is more like it...
RedStalin1928 1 year ago
how about you learn somthing...americans kill dirty fucking dog shit reds like you...wonder why...might want to find out or forever be a stupid red unable to think for urself....oh wait thats the whole idea of being a red is you dont think...well enjoy makeing every single death for americas freedom worthless..well untill ur blood is spilled
MD40LD50 1 year ago
you have nothing to loose apart from your shit hair cut
MrSkosig 1 year ago
My views are right your views are wrong, and if u dont agree with me, my ppl will use violence to make you agree with my views. what a joke!
buddymac201 1 year ago
@buddymac201 That's not the idea of revolutionary Marxism. I'm not a Trotskyist but I am a Marxist. It's not an I'm right your wrong thing, or forcing people to follow you.
adiosucks123 1 year ago
Lenin didn't know stalin would take power the man who was to take over was trotsky but stalin ecused him of treason and deported him to mexico so lenin had good intentions.
GagesChannel 1 year ago
@GagesChannel Well, Lenin certainly did quite a bit to prevent Stalin from taking power, he seemed to fear it, rightly so I'd argue.
TheHerbulator 1 year ago
I used to be a Trotskyist. I realized that if Lenin was some kind of guardian of democracy as Trotsky said, why would he create a state with unlimited potential for bloodshed and political repression. If Trotsky really wanted someone else besides Stalin to blame for the nightmare the USSR became, look at Lenin! He created the structure of the state which gave Stalin unlimited power.
So I became a Luxemburgist with anarcho-syndicalist tendencies.
commissarusa 2 years ago
@commissarusa : I think that's pretty convincing. I nearly had the same thoughts and the same developement. Trotsky and Lenin had some great ideas, but they were violent authoritarians after all. I don't want to say you shouldn't read their writings, you can still learn a lot from thei theories, and you definitely should learn something from their practical mistakes, which is that trying to change society in a violent/authoritarian way makes it even worse. Forcing people to be free is paradox ;)
gangstarr92 5 months ago
Nickvanzetti....your fascism is showing
proletariatmedia 2 years ago
And what fascism is he showing us?
Imhornydadcomeinside 1 year ago
Check out Progressive Labor Party.
youngwill1979 2 years ago
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Stay away from all Communist and Socialist parties! they are all funded by the Capitalists. I agree with the ideas of Communism but unfortunately since Marx the movement has been funded and controlled by the bankers. funny how the "left" and "right" are fighting each other instead of fighting the powers that be!
nickvanzetti 2 years ago
That's bullshit, I'm not being funded by bankers. I dare you to find where they are funding the SPUSA? You're just a class traitor.
amsterdam78 2 years ago
This is one that this out there, that the banks just fund the communists etc. This is, however, not true. And communists are the only real possibility of doing away with a system that brutally exploits, oppresses and murders people here and all over the world. Check out the RCP and what Bob Avakian is putting out, a re-envisioned revolution and communism that re-opens the possibility of making revolution here and getting to communism. google: revolution newspaper and bobavakiandotnet.
comraderavep 2 years ago
Nonsense. The CP and SP both are critical of capitalism. So how can they be both funded by capitalists if they oppose it?
ThirdPartyRevolution 2 years ago
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yeah real revolutionary shopping at old navy. im sick of this shit.
mattack972 2 years ago
Ya, they should only wear clothing they fish out of a dumpster!
Harpakhrad11 2 years ago
interesting. I like how dedicated they seem to be to being active as radicals in their unions.
nuclearnight 2 years ago 2
Trotsky was a hero and martyr. Keep up the good work comrades.
amsterdam78 2 years ago
And delicious!
jackriter 2 years ago
no he wasn't! he was a tool of the international bankers. he sold out the cause in Russia! research!
nickvanzetti 2 years ago
Stalinist?
amsterdam78 2 years ago
Anarchist still pissed over Krondstadt
amsterdam78 2 years ago
Dude is articulate.
rubbleofempires 2 years ago 2
These guys don't seem like Trotskyists at all... do they advocate a Leninist vanguard?
destructicon500 2 years ago
Links in the sidebar if you'd like to learn more about the League of the Revolutionary Party
buddhagem 2 years ago
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@buddhagem No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. Planned economy is the epitome of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
You could become like a train spotter following all these leftist groups/parties/splits/tendencies. There are so many of them.
yeahwotevaman 2 years ago
Hmm. Looks like an interesting organization. I'll check them out. Thanks for getting out the word on them.
CitizenCindy 2 years ago
These are great videos, they really know what they are talking about.
Truthisnonexistant 2 years ago
Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, Trotskyists, Maoists.... so many personists
Irtidad 2 years ago
so many different ideas ... refreshing. And they say we Socialists are about centralized control?
Arondeus 2 years ago
That depends on whom you mean by "we Socialists."
Irtidad 2 years ago 2
Sure, we can lose the point of the comment and focus on labels and syntax instead.
Arondeus 2 years ago
Whom we include in our label matters, not only for this kind of elated value of clarity in language, but also for the practical reason that an idea's credibility is on the line. I mean, would you include National Socialists in the club of "we Socialists"?
Irtidad 2 years ago 2
But I think you missed the point of my first comment anyways. I think, generally speaking, the Personist varieties of Socialism tend to be more authoritarian and centralized in practice, since they often revolve around a cult of personality. While non-Personist varieties, like anarchism or council communism, generally lack such a cult of personality, and are thus more liberatory in spirit.
Irtidad 2 years ago 2
Fuck Authoritarian Socialists!
LaughingMan0X 2 years ago
"Fuck Authoritarian Socialists!"
I'd actually prefer to avoid sexual relations with them...
Irtidad 2 years ago 2
A) You underestimate the dynamism of the word "fuck."
B) If sexual relations negate their authoritarianism (and they aren't too fuggly) it might be an effective "revolutionary" strategy.
LaughingMan0X 2 years ago
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LoveAmericaStyle 2 years ago