Jedes Volk soll das Recht haben selbst zu bestimmen wie es mit Homosexuellen umgeht. In Deutschland sind die akzeptiert aber in arabischen Ländern sieht die Situation eben anders aus. Artikel 2 UN Charta. Kroes sollte sich auf die digitalen Märkte konzentrieren und den Amerikanern mehr in den Arsch treten. Wichtig ist, dass das Volk seine eigenen Geschicke lenken kann und von ausländischen Einflüssen beschirmen kann.
Die EU will unsere Familien und Völker zerstören und uns alle zu vollwertigen Arbeitssklaven fürs die Großunternehmen umerziehen. Kein Wunder, dass Kroes den Perversen den Hof macht. Menschen, die keine eigene Familie haben wollen, hat man früher einfach in den Krieg oder ins Kloster geschickt.. Aber nun greift der grenzenlose Individualismus um sich.
Though I must confess, I was unaware of the need for this project in the EU countries, I'm so glad that they appear to be on top of things! How impressive that they were able to get such a prominent member of their governing body to address European youth! Thank you my friend for uploading this!
I think the recent comments below are very unfair. I work in Ms Kroes' department in Brussels. She is warm and down-to-earth. I know she volunteered to do this, no one had to ask her. And give her a break - she's 69 and straight. Talking about women's inequality is her way of showing that she understands discrimination. And as a gay man I KNOW the internet has made a huge difference to the process of coming out. so of course she should mention it. p.s. EU ICT is not selling out to US.
@ryangheath The EU hands out millions of ICT and telekom funding contracts but is incapable to enforce open market rules, think of the open standards failure, think of AT&T's net neutrality lobbying. Kroes has not the guts to enforce Austrian economics. The American lobby tells her what to provide state aid for and those guys who receive the wasteful contracts do nothing to help European digital markets and reward the actual change agents.
I have no words to thank you for what you're doing. I have lot's and lot's of respect for you. Please, keep being involved in the European work. Europe needs a woman with your spirit. Thank you
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Not sure what to think of this. I can't help the feeling that she's using this to promote her portfolio 'digital agenda' and also to talk about feminism. I would have understood it if she was comparing feminism to gay rights. But the 'It gets better camapign' is NOT about gay rights, it's about gay teens getting bullied in high school. So talking about feminism or even gay marriage rights is kinda out of place here. Sure, it's all connected in a way...but still her speech seems kinda off.
@moennen All kids get bullied in school but that is beyond the powers of her office. It is not only off-topic but a detraction propaganda. Her "Digital Agenda" means sell-out of our government services to US ICT corporations, that is Brussels digital policy in a nutshell.
Actually, though the project addresses the bullying of ALL teens (you are correct there), its founder, Dan Savage, intended it SPECIFICALLY for gay youth.
As he put it, those who get bullied for other reasons find refuge at home or their place of worship.
With the gay youth, however, suicide rates are much higher because the bullying doesn't stop at home, place of worship, political campaign, etc.
Regardless of Kroes' agenda, her voice, considering her position, is much appreciated.
@Anrwi Well, it just bugs me that she's obviously doing it to promote her own agenda. I feel she's not being sincere. She just does not come accross as this warm caring person who truely is worried about bullying of gay youth, from the moment she started talking about feminism, gay rights and the internet (her digital agenda). But I guess that's just politics.
@serafimpantea This has everything to do with the Digital Agenda. With the internet young people who are struggling or thinking about killing themselves have more places to turn for support. Having said that, this is an important issue. I have a portfolio, but I have a wider responsibility - to stand up for European values of freedom and solidarity and there is no freedom if young people do not feel wanted and safe in our society
@NeelieKroesEU In a liberal society citizens are the subjects, they are not to be educated by paternalistic politicians on general values. You only find that in dictatorships where officials do not consider themselves servants of the public but their leaders. You feel the power distance still in Barroso's style because Portugal once was an authoritarian regime. Except that he has limited power, so it gets rather funny for observers.
@NeelieKroesEU Mrs. Kroes .. I am in America (San Francisco) .. and I just watched your beautiful contribution to "It Gets Better". Thank you for your participation and great encouragement to the young people of Holland, Europe and even the world. This video of you is being seen whereever people have the internet.
And the link between gay people and Digital Agenda is?... They use "digitus" to get work done? I get the point of you wanting to get even more political momentum but I sincerely disagree with your way of doing it. Digital world belongs to everyone, you should _NOT_ take sexual, racial, religious, political or any other sides. You doing your work to make sure we have a free digital world is the best thing you can do and it's just what we need. Just my 2c.
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
Romans 1: 26 For this cause YHVH gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Just keep in mind it may get worse , or your idea of worse, but life has an ability of reaching a stage of homeostasis, it will eventually balance it's will .
You may experience amazing success with very little effort or you may struggle to attain your idea of success, but keep i mind , always, you are a unique individual but never special .
Dare to dream of far of vistas, but ground yourself in the reality they may never be reached
Thank you Neelie! I'm 33 now, but I'm confident that if I had seen a message like this during my adolescent years, it would have been a great support. You are truly amazing.
When I read comments like bimhimbim's, I always enjoy the fact that there are about 7 billion people and they all influence each other. I also enjoy the fact that people die. That is bount to bring about some new ideas.
Your intelligence is marked whit the words you wrote..religion was not the message of this kind politision and was not insulted at all!!! the message is for those who feel alone who are what you call it "sexually disoriented" And if "those people" bother you..you should tell them at that moment to leave you alone, no need to place such posts under this great video! The main reason why people can not accept people who are diffrent is because deep inside those people don't accept thei
@locoleiden I do not accept sexually-disoriented persons to set the agenda of society. That is just their neoliberal dream of undermining our religious and cultural values, to make it accessible for unlimited capitalism. No one ever did vote Kroes in her office, so she is invited to leave me alone and stay in her portfolio which is the digital agenda, not promotion of rights for the perverse.
@bimhimbim How does this video or how do the neoliberal European officials, insult your religion by supporting people who aren't sure what sexual orientation they have? You are being self-centred and that is exactly why people who are gay, lesbian, bi or transgender are being bullied.
Place yourself in their position. They just want to be accepted and the ignorant comment you just placed doesn't help one bit.
I am fine when my others are sexually-disoriented as long as they leave me alone. I don't think it is upon neoliberal European officials to promote that or insult my religious values.
@f00nix That politicians don't tell the public and the children perversion was acceptable in any way. Education is a task of the parents not neoliberal hedonists.
@bimhimbim only few parents are capable of educating their children adequate for current society's needs. If the parents are, homeschooled children might be much smarter then other children, they haven't developed skills to socialize and communicate with people outside of a home situation.
Moreover, you are arrogant to think the rest of the world should agree to your religion. Of course, you are allowed to pass your beliefs to your children; but you should never force then to have your religion
@bimhimbim Yes, but the state is responsible to grant every child certain rights, for example the right to be glbt. Of course, your religion can state that glbt-people are perverts, but the law does not. Moreover, there is no way you can prove this without assuming your religion is *right*.
Therefore the state needs to protect these children against parents who don't respect them and probably even punish them for something they should be allowed to be.
@f00nix Education is not the task of the state but the parents. It is not upon the state or an EU commissioner to feed pork to muslim children (because their belief system does not respect food superstition) or promote sexual-disorientation for our children, tell them it was acceptable to be in sins, and for them as politicians to counter the teachings of the church.
You do realize that children who don't eat pork are still capable of being happy where children who are forced to marry a wife where they would rather marry a man or the other way around do get very unhappy?
Therefore, allowing every child to have the right to eat pork is by far less important then allowing every child to love and marry who they want.
I can understand the importance of religion for you, but can't understand why your children should also respect it.
@f00nix The known secret is: for people with gender issues the church cares. Yet, an incitement of sexual abnormal behaviour is not ok. Everyone has a right to a normal sex life and needs to get the full medical treatment to enjoy it.
@Reichstempler Do you mean that people who aren't straight should get psychological help to become straight or do you mean that people who want to be of the opposite gender should be allowed to have a gender change?
@f00nix Children are the responsibility of the parents. It is not upon EU officials driven by business interests to indoctrinate minors with values that are not approved by their parents, esp. the destruction of the family.
@bimhimbim European governments aren't that business driven as american might be. Moreover, this destruction of family sounds very unlikely. GLBT-teens do not destruct families, parents who disallow them to be GLBT do.
@f00nix You don't know Brussels, in fact that is all propaganda. The EU Commission cares for foreign businesses, that's all. I recommend you to follow more closely their policies and their "stakeholder" work.
@bimhimbim It makes sense they care about international relations. But I don't see how policies around GLBT's has anything to do with it.
Moreover, are you pointing to the policies the ECB and the EC have for allowing other countries to join the EU and it's mometairy system or for adversary party's to interact with this momentairy system? I don't really see what you mean with stakeholders of the EU or for that matter the ECB.
@f00nix The term stakeholder means interests which are considered in Brussels. Citizens do not matter, so this is mere propaganda. I don't want the pope to tell people not to use condomes and I don't want the Commissioner to make off-topic statements which concern family values. Go to the UN, there you will learn brutal dictators talk about humanity. The "mensch" attitude and paternalism is an indication of a democracy deficit. In a liberal society "normative individualism" would be ideal.
Thank you Neelie, you are awesome! I am a very happy Gay Dutch (49 year young) man and I am part of the Hacker (Free- and Open Source Software) community. Needles to say that I Love you and your great work from the bottom of my heart. I am Living proof that it gets better indeed. Best wishes, Marti Van Lin (ML2MST), Maastricht, The Netherlands
Great Woman! Regards from Manhatttan
Jeannenyc57 5 months ago
Thats what I call a real woman: "A woman with a heart!"
TheSuperSatisfaction 8 months ago
Jedes Volk soll das Recht haben selbst zu bestimmen wie es mit Homosexuellen umgeht. In Deutschland sind die akzeptiert aber in arabischen Ländern sieht die Situation eben anders aus. Artikel 2 UN Charta. Kroes sollte sich auf die digitalen Märkte konzentrieren und den Amerikanern mehr in den Arsch treten. Wichtig ist, dass das Volk seine eigenen Geschicke lenken kann und von ausländischen Einflüssen beschirmen kann.
Digitalienbruder 8 months ago
Die EU will unsere Familien und Völker zerstören und uns alle zu vollwertigen Arbeitssklaven fürs die Großunternehmen umerziehen. Kein Wunder, dass Kroes den Perversen den Hof macht. Menschen, die keine eigene Familie haben wollen, hat man früher einfach in den Krieg oder ins Kloster geschickt.. Aber nun greift der grenzenlose Individualismus um sich.
linksgruen 10 months ago
@NeelieKroesEU
Ciao!
Though I must confess, I was unaware of the need for this project in the EU countries, I'm so glad that they appear to be on top of things! How impressive that they were able to get such a prominent member of their governing body to address European youth! Thank you my friend for uploading this!
Blaine
blainebill39 10 months ago
I think the recent comments below are very unfair. I work in Ms Kroes' department in Brussels. She is warm and down-to-earth. I know she volunteered to do this, no one had to ask her. And give her a break - she's 69 and straight. Talking about women's inequality is her way of showing that she understands discrimination. And as a gay man I KNOW the internet has made a huge difference to the process of coming out. so of course she should mention it. p.s. EU ICT is not selling out to US.
ryangheath 1 year ago
@ryangheath The EU hands out millions of ICT and telekom funding contracts but is incapable to enforce open market rules, think of the open standards failure, think of AT&T's net neutrality lobbying. Kroes has not the guts to enforce Austrian economics. The American lobby tells her what to provide state aid for and those guys who receive the wasteful contracts do nothing to help European digital markets and reward the actual change agents.
Reichstempler 10 months ago
@ursus15g - for President of the Netherlands!!!
joebalzac 1 year ago
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I have no words to thank you for what you're doing. I have lot's and lot's of respect for you. Please, keep being involved in the European work. Europe needs a woman with your spirit. Thank you
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nerveblues 1 year ago
Thank you. That was beautifully said.
1drnicholson 1 year ago
Not sure what to think of this. I can't help the feeling that she's using this to promote her portfolio 'digital agenda' and also to talk about feminism. I would have understood it if she was comparing feminism to gay rights. But the 'It gets better camapign' is NOT about gay rights, it's about gay teens getting bullied in high school. So talking about feminism or even gay marriage rights is kinda out of place here. Sure, it's all connected in a way...but still her speech seems kinda off.
moennen 1 year ago
@moennen All kids get bullied in school but that is beyond the powers of her office. It is not only off-topic but a detraction propaganda. Her "Digital Agenda" means sell-out of our government services to US ICT corporations, that is Brussels digital policy in a nutshell.
Reichstempler 1 year ago
@moennen
Actually, though the project addresses the bullying of ALL teens (you are correct there), its founder, Dan Savage, intended it SPECIFICALLY for gay youth.
As he put it, those who get bullied for other reasons find refuge at home or their place of worship.
With the gay youth, however, suicide rates are much higher because the bullying doesn't stop at home, place of worship, political campaign, etc.
Regardless of Kroes' agenda, her voice, considering her position, is much appreciated.
Anrwi 1 year ago
@Anrwi Well, it just bugs me that she's obviously doing it to promote her own agenda. I feel she's not being sincere. She just does not come accross as this warm caring person who truely is worried about bullying of gay youth, from the moment she started talking about feminism, gay rights and the internet (her digital agenda). But I guess that's just politics.
moennen 1 year ago
Thank you that was a very good speech.
beautifullife787 1 year ago
Thank you very much. <3
TThaTZmE4sUReXDDDD 1 year ago
@serafimpantea This has everything to do with the Digital Agenda. With the internet young people who are struggling or thinking about killing themselves have more places to turn for support. Having said that, this is an important issue. I have a portfolio, but I have a wider responsibility - to stand up for European values of freedom and solidarity and there is no freedom if young people do not feel wanted and safe in our society
NeelieKroesEU 1 year ago 11
@NeelieKroesEU In a liberal society citizens are the subjects, they are not to be educated by paternalistic politicians on general values. You only find that in dictatorships where officials do not consider themselves servants of the public but their leaders. You feel the power distance still in Barroso's style because Portugal once was an authoritarian regime. Except that he has limited power, so it gets rather funny for observers.
bimhimbim 1 year ago
@NeelieKroesEU Mrs. Kroes .. I am in America (San Francisco) .. and I just watched your beautiful contribution to "It Gets Better". Thank you for your participation and great encouragement to the young people of Holland, Europe and even the world. This video of you is being seen whereever people have the internet.
LifterWill 1 year ago
@ursus15g right she is ( also from the Netherlands ) i love here .
FTMedge 1 year ago
Dank jewel voor deze video Neelie
FTMedge 1 year ago
And the link between gay people and Digital Agenda is?... They use "digitus" to get work done? I get the point of you wanting to get even more political momentum but I sincerely disagree with your way of doing it. Digital world belongs to everyone, you should _NOT_ take sexual, racial, religious, political or any other sides. You doing your work to make sure we have a free digital world is the best thing you can do and it's just what we need. Just my 2c.
serafimpantea 1 year ago
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Repent Gays
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
Romans 1: 26 For this cause YHVH gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
derekdb2 1 year ago
Fantastic Neelie. Thank you.
maatroos 1 year ago
Just keep in mind it may get worse , or your idea of worse, but life has an ability of reaching a stage of homeostasis, it will eventually balance it's will .
You may experience amazing success with very little effort or you may struggle to attain your idea of success, but keep i mind , always, you are a unique individual but never special .
Dare to dream of far of vistas, but ground yourself in the reality they may never be reached
jvforever72 1 year ago
Lol miss..
85% of the boys/men on this planet "play" with girls..it's not diffrent
13Psycho13 1 year ago
Europeans, I'm sorry, but, your land is vanishing.
OnePresidentOfPeace 1 year ago
@OnePresidentOfPeace If you have health care insurance , see a doctor ;-)
SukhdevZomer 1 year ago
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SukhdevZomer 1 year ago
@SukhdevZomer y do u want me to see a doctor, im healthy? im just 17 years old. i heard europeans have a hard time getting health insurance. idk.
what i meant is: check out the channel: believersunderground
he talks about ireland & UK, and also about ocean sinking.
OnePresidentOfPeace 1 year ago
Thank you Neelie! I'm 33 now, but I'm confident that if I had seen a message like this during my adolescent years, it would have been a great support. You are truly amazing.
corneliskolbach 1 year ago
She's a jaguar, not your usual housepuss. A living feminist icon.
feromoon 1 year ago
When I read comments like bimhimbim's, I always enjoy the fact that there are about 7 billion people and they all influence each other. I also enjoy the fact that people die. That is bount to bring about some new ideas.
Bravo for Neelie Kroes.
GLANL 1 year ago
@bimhimbim
Your intelligence is marked whit the words you wrote..religion was not the message of this kind politision and was not insulted at all!!! the message is for those who feel alone who are what you call it "sexually disoriented" And if "those people" bother you..you should tell them at that moment to leave you alone, no need to place such posts under this great video! The main reason why people can not accept people who are diffrent is because deep inside those people don't accept thei
locoleiden 1 year ago
@locoleiden I do not accept sexually-disoriented persons to set the agenda of society. That is just their neoliberal dream of undermining our religious and cultural values, to make it accessible for unlimited capitalism. No one ever did vote Kroes in her office, so she is invited to leave me alone and stay in her portfolio which is the digital agenda, not promotion of rights for the perverse.
bimhimbim 1 year ago
@bimhimbim i'll put it in very simple terms to A VERY STUPID BIGOT: FUCK YOU
MrBorisbadanoff 1 year ago
@bimhimbim hey bimhimbim, 1915 is calling, they want their thoughts back!
basw84 1 year ago
Fantastische oproep van Neelie Kroes! Ik wou er dat meer mensen zoals zij waren die opstaan voor dit thema.
SukhdevZomer 1 year ago
@bimhimbim How does this video or how do the neoliberal European officials, insult your religion by supporting people who aren't sure what sexual orientation they have? You are being self-centred and that is exactly why people who are gay, lesbian, bi or transgender are being bullied.
Place yourself in their position. They just want to be accepted and the ignorant comment you just placed doesn't help one bit.
Props for Neelie!
RopeNL 1 year ago
JAAAA MENZEN ZIJ IS EEN NEDERLANDER!!!!
amsterdam26 1 year ago
I am fine when my others are sexually-disoriented as long as they leave me alone. I don't think it is upon neoliberal European officials to promote that or insult my religious values.
bimhimbim 1 year ago
@bimhimbim In what way exactly, do these sexually-disoriented other, not leave you alone?
f00nix 1 year ago
@f00nix That politicians don't tell the public and the children perversion was acceptable in any way. Education is a task of the parents not neoliberal hedonists.
bimhimbim 1 year ago
@bimhimbim only few parents are capable of educating their children adequate for current society's needs. If the parents are, homeschooled children might be much smarter then other children, they haven't developed skills to socialize and communicate with people outside of a home situation.
Moreover, you are arrogant to think the rest of the world should agree to your religion. Of course, you are allowed to pass your beliefs to your children; but you should never force then to have your religion
f00nix 1 year ago
@f00nix Parents steer the development of their childs, it is not subject of the state.
bimhimbim 1 year ago
@bimhimbim Yes, but the state is responsible to grant every child certain rights, for example the right to be glbt. Of course, your religion can state that glbt-people are perverts, but the law does not. Moreover, there is no way you can prove this without assuming your religion is *right*.
Therefore the state needs to protect these children against parents who don't respect them and probably even punish them for something they should be allowed to be.
f00nix 1 year ago
@f00nix Education is not the task of the state but the parents. It is not upon the state or an EU commissioner to feed pork to muslim children (because their belief system does not respect food superstition) or promote sexual-disorientation for our children, tell them it was acceptable to be in sins, and for them as politicians to counter the teachings of the church.
bimhimbim 1 year ago
You do realize that children who don't eat pork are still capable of being happy where children who are forced to marry a wife where they would rather marry a man or the other way around do get very unhappy?
Therefore, allowing every child to have the right to eat pork is by far less important then allowing every child to love and marry who they want.
I can understand the importance of religion for you, but can't understand why your children should also respect it.
f00nix 1 year ago
@f00nix The known secret is: for people with gender issues the church cares. Yet, an incitement of sexual abnormal behaviour is not ok. Everyone has a right to a normal sex life and needs to get the full medical treatment to enjoy it.
Reichstempler 1 year ago
@Reichstempler Do you mean that people who aren't straight should get psychological help to become straight or do you mean that people who want to be of the opposite gender should be allowed to have a gender change?
f00nix 1 year ago
@f00nix Children are the responsibility of the parents. It is not upon EU officials driven by business interests to indoctrinate minors with values that are not approved by their parents, esp. the destruction of the family.
bimhimbim 1 year ago
@bimhimbim European governments aren't that business driven as american might be. Moreover, this destruction of family sounds very unlikely. GLBT-teens do not destruct families, parents who disallow them to be GLBT do.
f00nix 1 year ago
@f00nix You don't know Brussels, in fact that is all propaganda. The EU Commission cares for foreign businesses, that's all. I recommend you to follow more closely their policies and their "stakeholder" work.
bimhimbim 1 year ago
@bimhimbim It makes sense they care about international relations. But I don't see how policies around GLBT's has anything to do with it.
Moreover, are you pointing to the policies the ECB and the EC have for allowing other countries to join the EU and it's mometairy system or for adversary party's to interact with this momentairy system? I don't really see what you mean with stakeholders of the EU or for that matter the ECB.
f00nix 1 year ago
@f00nix The term stakeholder means interests which are considered in Brussels. Citizens do not matter, so this is mere propaganda. I don't want the pope to tell people not to use condomes and I don't want the Commissioner to make off-topic statements which concern family values. Go to the UN, there you will learn brutal dictators talk about humanity. The "mensch" attitude and paternalism is an indication of a democracy deficit. In a liberal society "normative individualism" would be ideal.
bimhimbim 1 year ago
Neelie Kroes for President!!!!
Wonderful message!
samartinlavea 1 year ago 2
Sure it gets better when we join, together, think positive, ignore all negative influences. Only go for the future!
marialromme 1 year ago
Thank you Neelie, you are awesome! I am a very happy Gay Dutch (49 year young) man and I am part of the Hacker (Free- and Open Source Software) community. Needles to say that I Love you and your great work from the bottom of my heart. I am Living proof that it gets better indeed. Best wishes, Marti Van Lin (ML2MST), Maastricht, The Netherlands
tinus1961 1 year ago