The Grand Ancestor of the Miao people - CHIYOU 蚩尤

[97tomv]

Niamtxiv, what are your thoughts about Chiyou and Yandi being the same person. Many Chinese say they are the same. Both are Ox totem. If not then they could be like the Vang and Lor. Both are Hmong but on different side of the struggle. Yandi is credited with being the father of rice cultivation and the Hmong are the people whom farmed rice.

I also came across a theory that the Huns are the SanMiao who were forced to the Northwest. I'm curious as what happen to that group of Hmong.

[chongxin67]

I hope someday, each of you can make a pilgrimage to China and visit the Miao villages of Guangxi and Hunan. I can tell you, they are really wonderful people, proud to be Miao. I have many Miao friends in Guangxi and Hunan, been to many villages, but unfortunately, they dont look like the videos you see here. . The villages are quite poor, some have electricity, most do not have running water... but during the holidays, wow, so many people, eating drinking dancing, so much fun.. Beautiful......

[chongxin67]

@chongxin67 by the way, I am not Chinese, but married to Dong Zu... they are next door neighbors, brothers, mixing in culture, hand in hand in friendship.. Please feel free to visit the Dong villages as well, mine is in sough Hunan, Huaihua, village called Tongdao..

xie xie, zhu ni yi ge mei hao de yi tian, zhu dao zhong guo, kan yi kan, wo de mei li de zhong xin..

[niamtxiv]

@chongxin67

Yes, many Miao people still live in poverty and are the poorest of all ethnic groups. Our holidays, our clothes, our beautiful ways are to ease our suffering.

[chongxin67]

@niamtxiv Well， not quite the poorest, I would say the dong are the poorest, I have been there, see that.. The beautiful clothes, the music the dance, all a part of holding on to the rich and beautiful culture. But the cultures would no be as much glamorized and noted if it not been for Zong Zuying and her influence with high ranking officials and her singing.There are still some villages off limits to the general public, Dong and Miao,

[chongxin67]

@chongxin67 You would be heartbroken by the poverty in those villages, thus the attempt by the gov. to sweep them under the rug and out of sight. Fortunately I have been allowed to visit these villages because of my wife and doing charity work supplying food clothes and medical care to the villages. Trust me, I have been there, it has been a part of my life...

[TheMADGET1]

My father and i I have 2 of the Chi Yu's statue... No one can have it or can make this statue due to copy rights... My dad was the one who went over seas to help financially with the development of Chi Yu's statue and history..

[phabeight]

niamtxiv, would you happen to know what the name of the second song is? I've been looking for it for a long time. Please help out. Thanks. Nice vid post by the way.

[Tonyshyg]

stop arguing brothers and sisters. I think we all should donate some money to the Chiyou tomb keeper in china, and thank him for his patriotism.

[ciab8]

did you know that koreans claim that Txiv Yawg (chiyou) is their leader/ancestor....so unbelievable.

[BAIYUE1]

@ciab8

Korean also claim Txiv Yawg (chiyou) is their ancestor , it is true.

Because after Chiyou lost before Huangdi, have one part of Dong Di run to north and they are ancestor of Korean now.

[27msqueens]

Look here man, who here isn't HMONG/MIAO!!! GET THE FUCK OUT!!! I finally get to know more about my fucken background and now you silly bitches are arguing.. Make your point on your own videos and then see what peoples got to say!!! R.I.P. TO ALL HMONG/MIAO LEADERS OFF ALL TIME!!! JUST TALKING ABOUT IT MAKES ME WANNA SLAP EVERY CHINESE MEN I SEE!!!

[Opetlao]

Sorry but the word niphilim is the earliest word for God, but not just God it literally mean Gods.

[Opetlao]

Insearchofhmong nice job " niphi

[Solamanduh]

what the name of this second song of this video

[oneshero]

wow, very interesting.. do you know if there's any actual book or records I can check out?

[Sclassmercedes]

Hmong miao are some of the.most amazing people on. I love you Hmong people . We must love our kind , why do you think we are here in the u.s . Lets love our kind so we can search our roots and culture. We are strong ,sometimes too strong thats why we kill each other. Lets break this curse my Hmong Miao people.

[DQFXPRESS]

GREAT MUSIC THANKS.

[yueluo2000]

Hi Hmong people. I'm Vietnamese and I think that Hmong people is the first people who were lost the the territory to the Han chinese.

According to your history, your ancestor living in Southward of the Yellow River, while according to Yue history, our ancestor living southward of Yangtze river.

So your homeland is the land between the 2 rivers.

[Kingmiao]

Love my miao people hmong american lost our histrory we need to study our roots

[2012Countdown2012]

Easy my hmong fams. They will never understand us. Our history shows what kind of people we are. RIP General VANG PAO...

[2015ww3]

In regards to 6:20, I think Txiv Yawg simply means "Grandfather", it's not really a title. If you think about it, the Americans often referred to George Washington as one of the founding fathers. This doesn't make "father" a title, but rather to remind Americans that it had become a new family and that George Washington was a founding father.

[niamtxiv]

@2015ww3

Txiv Yawg does mean grandfather in the Hmong language. lol

[2015ww3]

@niamtxiv Look you retard, read what you wrote at 6:20. You were claiming that "Txiv Yawg" was a title. Stupid Hmong kids these days, I swear you guys are dumb. Must be a Hmoob Lauj thing. ><

[niamtxiv]

@2015ww3

See, here we go. You're probably one of the fucktard that I talked to. Fucktards like you are so jealous. Why don't you come up with your stupid video, you stupid fucktard. Chi You Jiang. Txiv Yawg Tsaab. It's simply means Grandfather Jiang in Hmong. Just like Huangdi means Huabtais in Hmong. I swear, little bitch like you, don't even bother commenting on my videos. You're so fucking stupid. A title in this case is a generational title. Hmoob Lauj and proud. Maggot.

[BAIYUE1]

@niamtxiv

hi,I like this song in this clip.What is it's name? Is it Miao language?

[niamtxiv]

@BAIYUE1

The first song is a Hmong song from China. It's called "You are like a flower." hehe thanks.

[yang0936]

@2015ww3 Dude, you must be really stupid. The title of "Txiv Yawg" is a TITLE and it's giving to someone who has reached old age. Your George Washington comparison example is retarded like you. If, you can even speak the language you would know that it's true and you can't compare word for word for different languages since all languages are not the same. Take a linguistics class.

[jephboy]

Damn... youtube comment war, LOL. Don't worry, Mommydaddy, the literate will do their own due dlligence and learn the truth. Your efforts will open the way for lost Hmong to learn their roots.

[civwjlo]

I am a big fan of Txiv Yawg. Where is the statue of Txiv Yawg located in China? (The one towards the end of your video?

Thanks.

[niamtxiv]

@civwjlo

I believe the statue is located in Hubei, from Sanzu Hall, temple of China's three ancestors or forefathers.

[Hmoob301Nation]

@Niamtxiv. Dont't worry about what this faggot is talking about. Keep doing what u do. Ur an inspiring individual, and please continue to teach our ppl of who we are and what our ancestors have been through. Posterity need ppl like urself so thank you for educating our young ppl.

[hewarm]

anyway im also tired of responding to your angry nonsensical tantrums so bye. at least for now lol.

[niamtxiv]

@hewarm

cause you're an idiot. That's what you are. You came to my videos trying to insult me and my culture. Well guess what, Xia dynasty never existed. Huangdi and Yandi never existed. All these Chinese myths never existed. :) Thank you for being an idiot.

[Hmongpersononly]

this is very interesting for my people =)....... this remind me as learning about the romance of the three kingdom =)

[hewarm]

dumbass fake historian niamtxiv

[niamtxiv]

@hewarm

Dumbass fake retard with no videos to show. :)

Did you read my info? The info was from Zhang Xiao, a Hmong Chinese Historian from China. Idiot can't read. It's very understandable.

[hewarm]

@niamtxiv

Thats because I don't spend all day on the internet making up fake historical videos. If you actually did any field work, than I would be impressed, but nope, you only have stupid communist looking revisionist videos to show for your "knowledge".

[hewarm]

any real reliable historian would not be so sure that chiyou ever existed. No archaeological evidence and chiyou was never even mentioned in the earliest records but just popped up later. hundreds of years later i might add. why would the people during his time not mention him at all if he was so great? it should be considered a made up semi mystical being until proof comes up, bc from the looks of it, he was made up later in time.

[niamtxiv]

@hewarm

see, here is the thing about you, you think you can come here and try to belittle me and my culture. Huangdi never existed. Xia dynasty never existed... =) Huaxia never existed.... Yao Shun and Yu never existed. =) Who do you think you are?

[hewarm]

@niamtxiv

like i give a shit. if saying that will make u stop forging history out of your lying mouth. i'm looking at your recent posts right now and you seem to be doing the same thing talking shit about other people and being pissed off when they don't agree with you, so yes i will keep belittling your hmong ass. sorry to those hmong who are actually realistic about history. like the members on that one hmong forum...

[niamtxiv]

@hewarm

can you stfu? you're the one who is being pissed off here. you're the dumbass that came to my videos talking shiit.. you stupid dimwit fuck. :) Do you have a brain?

[niamtxiv]

@hewarm

belittle. LOL silly little fool. Maybe if you have some videos, I will take you seriously. In the mean time, you are worthless. I'm not interested in you, your info and craps. Yi this Qiang this.. sorry, I'm not interested. Do you know that these are my videos? little idiot.

[hewarm]

@niamtxiv

lol making fake historical videos and ripping off those propaganda happy minority dance videos off of chinese websites doesn't get you any respect other than from the ones with the lowest denominators in intelligence. pretty funny that an overseas hmong would actually fall for those propoganda videos when the target audience is chinese on the mainland. shows how brainless you are when it comes to creating your own fantasies.

[hewarm]

btw you can listen to these no-name chinese "historians" all you want but all they're doing is making things up so you can spend your money on their tourism industry and to keep you miaos in check. I would know I was born and lived in china for half my life.

[niamtxiv]

@hewarm

that still doesn't mean you know shiit... lol you're trying too hard...

you can stfu.

[hewarm]

Thats why Miao people are so dumb and backwards. They actually believe this is real and scientific.

[niamtxiv]

@hewarm

Your mom. :) 

[hewarm]

childish, just what I expected from you.

[niamtxiv]

@hewarm

yes you do. Idiot is what I expected from you. :)

[torelloBank]

where can i find the soundtrack of this video?

[laomoua14]

who da fak dislikes our Miao History?!!!!!!!?

[niamtxiv]

@laomoua14

Amen. Who the heck dislike our history?

[laomoua14]

@niamtxiv the 1 dislikes shit right there

[blueberrysmilie1]

knowing more makes me that much prouder of who i am, knowing about who my ancestors were....i no longer linger as a person with unknown roots. In one documentry a guy said Tvix Yawg was a war god - haha. x)

[niamtxiv]

@blueberrysmilie1

I'm glad to know blueberrysmilie1. No more wondering and lingering. No more praising other cultures and no more belittling your own culture. Knowing who you are heal that inner pain of trying to discover yourself. Many used Txiv Yawg as a god of war to protect themselves because he was once a very very powerful leader. Thank you.

[Arislan2006]

@blueberrysmilie1 I am so happy too after watching this video. Something inside me just keeps telling me to smile and I feel like wowowowow.

[aliasdoe007]

niamtxiv, Naturally it was a matter of time you'd find KY Yang's website to find this info about Ci You based off of Z Xiao's research though abeit late. This was known since the mid 90s when Xiao tourd ed US Hmong communities to speak about her factfinding research alongside KY Yang. Good that you made a vid reiterating the info.

[XiangMian]

In regards to the Miao who completely assimilated into the Han culture, I believe I had encountered some of them while touring China a couple years ago. On many occasions in different cities, I had come across someone who looks just like a Hmong/Miao guy in every which way, but he's Han. It's possible that these are the Miao who became Han thousands of years ago. People can transform in many ways, but their personal trait will remain.  However, the Miao & the Han should be brothers & sisters.

[niamtxiv]

@XiangMian

Yes, there are Miao/Hmong who are completely assimilated into the Han culture.

[jephboy]

@niamtxiv

Just like there are Hmong who care completely Americanized in the U.S. and don't speak the dialect or care about it.

[bobby215]

The war against the Chinese still lingers in our blood....that is why we Hmong people never know how to give up....we will never surrender to other races. Proud to have 100% Hmong blood in me.

[niamtxiv]

@bobby215

Very glad to know. The war against the Chinese is long over, but it still linger in our blood because our ancestors went through hardship and a long trail of bloody migration. We were mistreated for thousands of years, this is why many of us are still very angry, yet, we must learn to move on and be proud of our culture.

[exopheric]

@niamtxiv, quite unfortunately, anger has not done us any good. Those who live off anger will perish by anger. Great aspirations must be met with corresponding competitiveness. Here, we have failed miserably. 

[iviewutoob]

Thank you for sharing this amazing history with us. I'm proud to be Hmong.

[kevinhawj13]

These video brings tear to my eyes. My Stupid hmong people were all dieing. How come we tsis sib hlub eachother. We don't love us who is going to. Man I am from Chi-you is my father no matter what. It's because of him I am here today in America To be called Hmong

[exopheric]

@kevinhawj13, just about any Hmong would have said the same thing, but then what is "Hmoob sib hlub Hmoob"? I bet no one has a clear definition.

With regard to Chi You, come on, this is a legend. To claim that Chi You is a father amounts to the same as claiming Jesus is. Might as well claim that Obama is.

[niamtxiv]

@exopheric

Txiv Yawg (Chiyou) is one of the most important figure in the Hmong culture. His name is recited in funeral song. Txiv Yawg yog Hmoob li tug. Simple as that.

[renzokukenleonhart]

@niamtxiv Hey dude so do u know how to recite these funeral songs? It be cool if you could pass them along to the younger generations so it doesn't end up as history just like this. Great job on the vid. The statue of Ci You is a great symbol. He is powerful, proud, and demands respect. And screw you for the second music. That music and the pics makes me think of all the stuff that they have gone through, yet still proud and it makes my heart cries. These are not tears of grief but pride.

[kevinhawj13]

@exopheric So what is your point of replying back to me then? Telling me we should call Obama father? For sure Jesus is father. We call Chi You because that is his name. It is pronounce father in law. Do you understand.

[xyang26]

Whats the name of the second instrumental?

[eroticESCTASY]

Love the songs, info, and the last picture a lot!

[ahmongus]

Amazing history. I've always interest into my people's history but could only go so much to the Vietnam era. This really help. Do you by any chance know who's the proper source to contact if I were to make a trip to China to do a little research? I would like to include our ancient history as an introductory to my in-progress documentary.

[niamtxiv]

This info was by a Miao historian from Guizhou name Zhang Xiao. She did this research. She came to the United States to work with the Hmong.

[ahmongus]

Awsome. Not sure if she's the same person I met in St. Paul during one of my research trips to the midwest. She was at Yuepheng's store where I met her.

[Vajhmoob]

Hello My bother ,

Thank you for sharing the information. I am looking forward to meet you someday .

I love my Hmon/miao People .

[ommiub]

Thanks very much for this video. This is a plain way of history telling, yet very easy to understand.

It's really helpful for those who haven't known about our history.

[niamtxiv]

@ommiub

You're welcome. Thank for coming by. Hmong history is very complex and complicated. Very long. There are lots to learn.

[yellowladee]

this makes me really said and wish that when i call myself hmong i knew what my history came from. sniff...thank you!

[niamtxiv]

@yellowladee

Be proud of your heritage. Grandmother's paths and Grandfather's ways. They've shed blood and tear to preserve our culture. Knowing your root, you will no longer yearn to be accepted by others. Be yourself and be proud.

[yellowladee]

I am proud...i just wish more of the younger generation felt the same too!

[smarthomebiz]

Thank you.