Shinn is the best, plotkai saved a lot of asses in destiny. Kira, should had obviously died, Athrun should had died. In the end, Shinn only lost cause of the creator. He even allowed Kagalli to perform on Shinn level so she wouldn't get ROLFPWN'D. I still demand my ACTUAL alternate ending where Shinn kicks ass like hes suppose too and not his machine's leg breaking in some bs fashion the way it did.
i don't understand why everbody hates shinn, and that he is mentaly fucked, if i where in his situation i would fell exacly the same. first his family is laying dead before him, then he joins the military and meets the dumb bitch stellar ( dont understand why he loves her) that heales a little of his pain from the death of his family. and then she dies, so i really think anybody else in that situation would want to do suicide, and after that the only thing left for him is anger and hatred.
@ollebullebello because all the reasons to like him (ie any skill with mobile suits and sense of justice) dissapeared as he got the destiny gundam (he had no moments of ingenuity with it and essentially became a cultist of zaft head person guy). oh and the series made all of his actions evil as soon as god yamato arrived, so that made people dislike him.
that and the fact that awesomes wise, the v2 gundam which had the original wings of light, was a hundred times more badass (although at least five times worse looking, just a thing that comes with being too badass in universal century)
funny thing about beam boomerangs is that in U.C. people threw their sabers, people in seed think it was a good idea to make actual boomerangs. Yes, the militaries are that stupid. GG cosmic era
@kevinlei92 i don't watch too much uc (apart from unicorn) so i can't really comment but i'll say that they really didn't do much with destiny which is a shame (most scenes are just shinn chopping things up in emo mode :/)
as for the boomerangs, i never really quite got how a thrown boomerang could catch up to something faster than a fighter jet :P that and how they always managed to get them to hit
now all you need to know is that swords are better swung with much longer and flexible arms, and that rifles will always be better than a sword in combat because of speed.
they got really lazy these days, not doing war damage and all. By saying shit like 'PS' armor or GN coating. yea, bad excuse not to show your mecha getting damaged. Its like a bunch of guys playing a game with god mode on and saying they were great.
@kevinlei92 haha i made a comment a while back about how 00 gundam ever made it into melee when the army could just barrage them like they did in first season (i mean, the only thing stopping them in first season was not knowing where cb was)
yea the problem with 00 was that it lacks common sense. it also trolled in a epically fail way, by not having a chick in the cast. Season one was .. alright, it was some what ok, its season 2 that made me faceplant and just completely throw 00 aside. The movie was even worse than s2. i asked myself how bad could 00 possible get after the ending of s1, and got my slap in the face with a trail blazing rage from understanding aliens.
@negima47 naw the fight with the freedom (the one with blast impulse and the the one where he destroys it) were both nice and the one where he destroys the orb fleet for the first time was good too
In terms of Gundam, Destiny was so much better than Strike Freedom imo. All they did was take Freedom, added gold framing, a DRAGOON system, and more firepower (you couldn't possibly miss with all that firepower), while Destiny had a more original design. It's just unfortunate that Shinn was a total tool and would've been much better if he didn't listen to Rey and joined Athrun/Kira.
@darkxzero13 i do like the destiny's design but it isnt that original (apart from the face :P). imo the series would have been better if they hadnt made shinn a scapegoat for everything and instead made all parties have their flaws
@TheThatguyoverthere Indeed, I agree that Shinn would've been better in a different role. However, I think Destiny is original in that it took all the pros of the GAT-X series and made them all work with a new look- and yes, the head is one of the best I've built on a gundam model kit :P
kira begins to actually shoot and kill people. He begins to do this as he has support from other people. And at the very end, he wasn't a pussy at all. he was a gud person who tried to stop this war and all this fighting. and also, he stopped crying and finally became a soldier
I believe that Seed is actually a very good series, the plot and the story is just really good to me. Why? there are lots of reasons. one of them is, the character Kira, at first, he was just a normal school kid, but he develops as he pilots the gundam. yes, he WAS a cry baby, had trouble killing, but who doesnt? he was just a normal kid, if it was u, i dont think u could kill someone at the start, this is why this show is quite realistic.
I hate Kira as a character. It's not just because of all this fanboys/girls, because there are tons, but it's because he's such a goody two shoes and, in my opinion, a pussy. I don't like Shinn either, he wines too much, but at least he's not afraid to kill someone. Overall, I don't really like many of the Seed Destiny pilots. The Destiny Gundam is awesome though.
yes strike freedom would win in space...................not so much in atmosphere ie. the lack of its signature weaponry the dragoons which cant be used within the atmosphere thats where the destiny would take that one (bring athrun in and you get the show)
Gundam has always been an anti-war story according to its creators. Shins motivations for fighting were anger and revenge. These are understandable motives but the ultimat emessage of gundam is that we must overcome those emotions.
Because of this Shin was a clear nati-hero in the gundam universe and so was always going to have to be schooled by the true themed heros, athran and kira...as they have reached a point of violence only when needed and kill only when they have to.
According to production interviews: The destiny gundam was an idea made during the creation of the original gundam seed. It was supposed to be an amalgum of all the different strike gundam modes. The guy in charge decided it wasnt quite right so they went on and created the freedom. Later on, when talking about doing another seed story, they brought the destiny gundam in and worked the lore so it fit with Shin and his story.
@Xinathor Which was what exactly? As far as I can tell it would have been him and Ray being Gestapo of the world crushing anyone or anything that stood in the chairman’s way. Now if Shinn had grown as a character the same way Kamille did in Zeta but went against the chairman, Kira only had a cameo role like Amuro did in Zeta, and Athrun wasn’t a wuss and actually did a better job of tutoring Shinn it would have been a far better series.
@animeownage86 i agree with you and that was the original plan for the most part but if it wasn't for them giving into fan service and the directer letting his wife take over the script we would have had one epic Gundam show
Hmm..what exactly did they say? no offence intended...but I often hear repeated statements that arent so accurate. I'm not saying youre wrong just that id like some clarification.
@ronanscreed i don't exactly 100% remember but the stuff i have seen is stuff that the Voice Actors were saying you might look around for it and i'd tell you where to look but i was all over the place investigating it
@Xinathor thats what happens when the director decides to let elitist fans run the show instead of thier own original intentions. Its a shame cuz the series couldve have been better if maintained the attention on shin throughout the whole series allowing him to grow and develop.
@TheOriginalHigh heck yeah i liked Kira but in all honesty i'd have no problem with him dying if Shinn stepped up and became what he was supposed to be
@ronanscreed seed being the spiritual successor to the original mobile suit gundam, seed destiny was supposed to be the successor to zeta gundam.If you haven't watched zeta gundam you will see that they introduced a new character named Kamille and even tho they had appearances of the older cast thier was not doubting that the main character was always Kamille. Shinn was supposed to be the Kamille of seed destiny and they are similliar in alot of ways like they both dont do well with authority,
@TheOriginalHigh Personally, I prefer Kamille to Shinn, Kamille was much much more likeable than Shinn. With Shinn you just wanted to Bright Slap him every time he threw tantrums and whined about shit. With Kamille I laughed and at the same time if felt a sense of empathy. Kamille had a balance about him, he was rash, somewhat childish and rushed into a lot of things, but in the end, he developed a lot as a character ( unlike Shinn), and I think that was due to the excellent supporting cast.
@ronanscreed they both lost their families and funny enough they both are ragers in battle (maybe shinn is a little more). The seed destiny=zeta was intentional and they intended shinn to be the main character but the main problem is fukuda because he decided to do in my opinion a moronic thing and let the fans dictate the show. Also with seed introducing alot of new fans to gundam many of them worshipped kira lol and werent familiar with how a usual gundam show is all about so naturally they
@ronanscreed the MANY fans (not all of them) told fukuda, "Hey Fuck you we want kira the main character we dont want shinn cuz we lame and dont want a good character development to take place in seed destiny plus we loves freedom lolz" so being unfaithful to his work he changed it for those ignorant and IN MY OPINION stupid because FUCK man seed destiny would have been AMAZING if they let shinn develop like Kamille did in zeta gundam. THATS WHY FANSERVICE IS BULLSHIT! Unless its for mechs hehe
When I look at Destiny Gundam I am really reminded of the Epyon from Gundam Wing. It's primaraly a Close range suit even though it has mid range weaponry its true strength is that Massive ati-ship sword along with its overwhelming speed. Kinda like Epyon who's primary weapon was its Sword while it had the Heat whip as its mid range weapon and also used speed to make up for its short commings.
ok destiny gundam is a total bad ass mobile suit but shinn is a total fucker. i dont like kira because he's a pussy but i think kira would win for sure cuz kira is a super coordinator. case closed haha
look everyone is all talking about who would in shinn or kira. my solution to this is to get them both in a DINN or GINN and get them to fight without any advantages and then see who wins
hheeeaa,,. shinn is not bad, but he needs a heavy punch in the face to wake up.. and for me, maybe kira is fit with that, to explain, and tell shinn something to calm down..
that shinn is not a bad guy. he was just drowning with anger, and hatred. i thimk kira can handle him, but not in mobile suit fight,. i'm not saying that kira is no match for him, but observing what kira is doing, you know that the freedom fights only when necessary, but he just disabling mobile suits, not not killing the pilots. unlike shinn.. for me, shinn needs a heavy hit in the head to be pulled in the right way you know..
yohw,. people,. they're excelent pilots from kira, athrun, shin, and even those who do not possess the seed, they're just fighting in different sides, and still having some pressures and confusions. and, come to think of it,. their mobile suits are base on their previous fighting data. they're all good, but they different beliefs,. shinn is not bad. for me kira can wake him up, but i guess not in mobile suit fighting. they can be good friends tooo.. hehehe.. wat do ya think?
its funny that such a bad series can actually has one of the cooler MS designs in recent gundam series, even if it is just a continuation of the rip-off-Victory Gundam trend they did with Impulse.
Good vid my least favorite series has one of my top 10 favorite gundams it's kinda funny. I like how every one keeps arguing over who's the better pilot or which is the strongest gundam every pilot has their own strengths and weaknesses same for every gundam.
Gotta say this, Destiny Gundam is badass eh, it has poh sword (Lunar 2), shining finger(G gundam), sonic boom(street fighter), beams, half physical/half energy wings, and magical blurr powers. the machine rocks yoh. the pilot sucks though hes a crazy emo with no justice just hate for war and orb "my opinion dont bite my head off please"
@7kiku7honda7japan Look , Shinn was having a mental breakdown and hallucination , which makes him unable to pilot properly. Thats the only reason Athrun 'won' without a scratch. We don't have a clear view of his piloting skills in GSD.
As for Athrun 'sucking' , I feel that him constantly switching sides ALL the time ( In GS & GSD) made me feel that he sucks (Obviously not refering to his skills)
@johnnymama123 If you remember the rest of the series, that is when he did his best. When he destroyed the orb fleet he was under a lot of stress. When he took down the freedom he was still crazy and grieving from stella dying. He does better under these little breakdowns as they increase his focus and pretty much make him unstoppable, but athrun was still able to dismember destiny like it was nothing. It's true he's a great pilot with an amazing mobile suit, but he's rash and inexperienced.
@7kiku7honda7japan The one he had in the end of the series is nothing compared to the 'stress' he felt in the past few battle.
When he destroyed Orb fleet , he was determined to live . And the battle with freedom, Stella's death motivated him .His not 'crazy' at there.
If you want to know what is crazy , thats what happened to him in the final battle against Athrun .He basically went crazy + hallucinated. This severely crippled him . Its like Athrun disabling a Destiny without a pilot in it.
@johnnymama123 No. maybe the orb fleet was nothing, but I think it would be a lot more painful and mind warping when the one you love dies than when you don't know what to fight for. The confusion and rage he feels is his strength, not a setback. Athrun was an ace that was proficient at piloting a mobile suit before shinn even joined zaft, plus he was fighting infinite justice at it's optimum range so he really didn't stand a chance.
@7kiku7honda7japan The one on the last one is actually crippling him. Do you know what hallucination is? Do you know what mental breakdown is? Define these terms and you will know it DOES NOT HELP. This is the only time that he 'broke' . The others is not even close to be called mental breakdown. Stress from the war and confusion has consumed him.
@johnnymama123 Umm ya I am not a retard it's sad when you don't know what that means, but he really wasn't hallucinating much. Mental breakdown? shinn was a heartless jerk (cool, but also kinda annoying,) but even he broke down when stella died. you can't compare the pain he felt when she died to the confusion durandal put in his head, one was absolutely devastating but the other was more tolerable. I am pretty sure the way he felt for stella was stronger than his allegiance to ZAFT.
@7kiku7honda7japan Im not saying your a retard ok? Don't get the wong idea. Unless your really one that is. If you really know what it is , you would know it will get him into trouble in a fight , he couldn't even stop attacking when Luna got infront of him. Basically he didn't saw Luna at all , instead he saw his loved ones and freedom. Thats how bad the hallucination and Mental breakdown is. Not Hallucinating much? His heartless? Cool.
@johnnymama123 I'm not. It would if it were serious, but it's not like he was seein colors while fighting athrun. But to be honest he attacked luna for getting in his way. He was questioning durandal that is true, but again it was more something at the back of his mind than the main focus. At the time all he could think about is killing athrun and blowing up the freedom while defending the messiah. Or at least that is what the show conveyed. If that was really the intent, then it was poorly done
@7kiku7honda7japan Well , GSD is not notorious for nothing. The show shows that Kira and gang is like the good guys , but in an interview with the director , he states that Kira and gang had strayed from the path of justice , which actually is true if you look at the plot in a political view. Poor writing is the reason for all these 'wars' among fans for so many years.
@7kiku7honda7japan When he 'broke' when fighting Athrun , the stress from the war exploded inside his head(which includes Stellar dying , Freedom terrioristing the battlefield and losing his families) . Your point is he is completely fine and actually 'powered up' when fighting Athrun , which is just invalid and sounded riduculous as proven by the animation.
@johnnymama123 He was fine. If you want to see crazy and hallucinations look at 00QAN(T) as setsuna fought the ELS. From what the show showed, he was just wanting to get it over with, and by some random mistake that shouldn't even have happened his mobile suit got completely destroyed. Now if that was what they wanted to convey, again it was so poorly done that you really couldn't tell. I'm not a seed hater or a shinn hater, but facts are facts. He lost that fight fair and square.
@johnnymama123 so really he has no excuse for what happened in front of the messiah. He made a stupid mistake, thrust himself into infinite justice's optimum combat range, and suffered a humiliating defeat. Now I am not saying that he deserved that cause to be frank he decimated everything in his path and even took down the mighty freedom just by planning his attacks and studying his opponents weaknesses, yet he got taken down for such a stupid mistake. Poor plot writing.
@7kiku7honda7japan ...which what you said here is completely out of point. People is calling him heartless for killing in a WAR? LOL? Besides , he feel that it is nessary to prevent the tragedy that happened to him . How is this heartless? His fighting to stop the war and people is bashing him left and right...his confused , and emotionally tortured, and viewers don't want to try to understand him.
@johnnymama123 No, that he actually thinks that killing would end the war. that is how but it's not the point. He is tortured and yeah his life sucked a whole lot, but the way the series conveyed that was less than perfect, so that is why people don't feel bad for him.
@johnnymama123 It was poor plot writing, Infinite justice should have at least been badly mangled at least. But no it was disappointing that they guy who took down the freedom and an entire fleet was taken down that easily. The fights were less than amazing.
I don't mean to create waves, but I dislike SEED. SEED DESTIY was better imo but I still didn't enjoy it as much as the UC timeline related series. But that doesn't mean I hate everything about it necessarily... I hated Kira, period. I hated the freedom/strike freedom, period. But I enjoyed Shinn as a character, he is probably one of my favorite characters in any Gundam series so far. The Destiny is one of my favorite Gundam designs as well, and I look forward to getting the Master Grade!
~You just proved my point lol.You keep denying the fact that your not a SEED/Destiny Basher and yet you clearly hated on Shinn's character with that comment you posted.I'm not gonna insult you or contradict your statements.Arguing with you is a complete waste of time.And go ahead and keep insulting me,your insults let you achieve nothing except reveal the true colors of your stupidity.Period.
i think all the ppl says that shin lost because of his mental breakdown is completely bullshit, think of this, before shin mental break down his laser sword got destroyed already. his long distance weapons wont do shit as athrun can dodge easily. so what he got left - hand cannons which the mental breakdown didnt affect it coz regardless he used it to attack and it's a good choice to use it but got owned by justice double laser sword instead. Mental breakdown only cause shin attack recklessly
@Eviser1993 part of the reason why he got owned even when in seed mode and athrun isn't is that shinn idiotically used an anti-"SHIP" sword against a "MOBILE SUIT".. apparently he thinks it's cool because of it's huge ass size and shinntards go "kya! kya!" when he use it in combination with the wings of light.. what he failed to realize is that only one edge of it has beam emitter and the other edge is easily destroyed by a clever maneuver in athrun's part.. durrrrr
@ponkadolz Wrong , the one who plotted the story somehow made Shinn had mental problems whenever he faces Kira/Athrun . Thats why after episode 34 , we don't get any good fights from the show anymore . Like in orb , Kira returns and shocked shinn , athrun returns and double shocked him , making him mentally unstable ,the final battle where he loses his mind? They are just trying to avoid Shinn fighting Kira/Athrun properly .
@johnnymama123 the one who plotted the story ultimately has control over all that's happening and what's going to happen.. is your QQing gonna change what already happened? NO.. it won't change a damn thing.. it won't change the fact that shinn can be easily mind raped.. -_-"
@Eviser1993 Hand cannons is not a good choice , he could have used the beam shields at the back of Destiny's palm to block .If he didn't had a mental breakdown he would use it. If not i will have seen him using the palm cannons to block beams in the show, lol.
as far as piloting skills is concerned, there's not a single fair and square battle than happened so it can't be accurately measured. but if you base it on the battles and how they won, then i could say athrun is the best.
as for the most interesting character, i'd say gilbert. i really don't understand why some people likes an angsty emo cry baby tool like shinn.. oh well, to each their own..
But the second...I think Rau le Creuset is most interesting. Although Gilbert thinks of him as a tool , you can't say he is one . He believed Gilbert , and followed his ideals after rey persuaded him to do so. He actually have doubts before this , if rey didn't do so , we will see Shinn + Kira + Athrun vs Rey. I really don't understand why people would like an emo cry baby terrorising hypocrite like Kira.. oh well, to each their own..
@johnnymama123 le creuset wanted everyone dead while durandal wanted to make a perfect world.. i'd prefer someone who would avoid bloodshed if possible.. but that's just me..
and again, there's no use QQing over something you don't have control with(the story).. it'll just depress you.. just deal with it, that's the only thing you can do..
~I don't call everyone who disagree's with me ''retarded''.I respect their opinions but if they hate on my opinions and facts simply because I refuse to be Kira Fan,then I engage in a pointless argument that they created.I suppose that since they've had their say,I think it's only fair that I have my say.That is the only reason why I even bother to reply to their laughable one sided short-sided statements.If I look like a ''ignorant, holier-than-thou moron'' that's your opinion plain & simple.
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@Newtamaki wow, just wow. what about your reply on my comments on the other videos? you only replied insults and personal attacks instead of giving a counter argument. what a fucking hypocrite.
~Let's get one thing straight,I don't hate Kira.I simply dislike the Kira Fans who claim that Kira is the best pilot in the entire Gundam Franchise(when in fact hes not) and they disagree with anyone who doesn't agree with them.They hate on the opinions of others and once they run out of verbal counter arguments,they resort to rude behavior and insults.They don't realize that the more they defend their self righteous naive plot armored idol,the more people start to dislike Kira Yamato.
~First of all,I am NOT a Shinn fanboy so you basically called me a ''fanboy'' blindly.Simply because I contradict KiraFanTards when they bring pathetic statements to the debate table such as ''If Kira wanted to kill Shinn,he would have killed him in a matter of seconds'' and ''Kira is unbeatable,Shinn only won because Kira was not serious'',that doesn't make me fanboy.Those statements and statements related to those are stupid and false.
~There is a perfectly good explanation as to why Shinn lost the battle between him and Athrun in Gundam SEED Destiny episode 50.He was having a mental breakdown.No one is interested in your opinions or your insults,so just do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut.Your mentally challenged insults don't affect me or anyone else.
Oh, I'm sure it all sounds perfectly reasonable, please, go on. I'm sorry, it's just fun to see a Shinn fanboy bust his ass trying to defend his precious character by calling everyone who disagrees with him retarded. I suppose that people are just dying to know your opinion, obviously, so please, continue to run your mouth and look like an ignorant, holier-than-thou moron.
@Newtamaki yeah thats true i mean how can you kill someone when you are seeing the people you cared for fglash before your eyes. also the justice has god knows how many beam swords and the whole foot sword think is just pure wuss
@ronanscreed ...i have to point out that the strategy shin used involved exploiting kira kindness not to shoot to kill i really thought that was lame at the time, however i agree with you athrun is the best pilot in the series.
@ronanscreed Kira has also beat Athrun if I remember correctly and it was 4 v Kira. When Athrun self detonated his Gundam on Kira's, that was considered a draw imo. It was said that Athrun won because everyone thought Kira died. The other Gundam pilot must submit, retreat or die for an actual win to count with the superior Gundam pilot still alive, concious, and standing. Besides Kira's the ultimate coordinator as well. But imo I think Kira+Athrun are the best pilots in the Seed and GSD series.
As I mentioned before, the problem with the series is that two pilots are often set against each other when one has seed mode and one doesn't..or some other obviously unbalanced situation.
Thing is when Athrun detonated his gundam on kiras gundam...Athrun walked away healthy while kira needed serious medical attention. In my book, when you look at the end result of a fight. The guy who is still standing beat the guy who is near comatose!
@ronanscreed Athrun didn't walk away healthy.. he was found unconcious and put on a medical bed. He also had to have a cast and get bandages as well. So it was a draw.
~You'll agree with any comment as long as it contains negative talk and hatred towards Shinn because your a Shinn hater and an opinion hater.
In my opinion,left4deadian = Pathetic Annoying Kira Worshiper.
The Destiny Mobile Suit was created with Shinn Asuka in mind.The Destiny was custom built for Shinn Asuka and was based on Shinn's combat data from the Impulse.In other words,it was specifically built for him.That Mobile Suit was assigned to Shinn.Period.
@Newtamaki as if you're one to talk you shinntard, of course it was specifically built for him.. that's why he got owned by athrun even without SEED mode, suck on that fanboy..
@ponkadolz Shinn's major weakness is his mind , he always seems to be unstable at the most important time. If he could perfect his mind , he would be a force to reckon with.
i always really liked Gundam Seed Destiny. i mean the other gundam series in the franchise, they were cool and i liked them to, but they all had the same story line. Seed Destiny brought something new to the anime series. i really liked this vid, i wouldn't have thought to use 3 days grace for GSD. it actually went together well i thought. i personally liked the impulse, but i didn't care for the destiny. this vid actually made the destiny look cool. thanks for this.
Destiny Gundam is the shit! If is wasn't for the the stupid director changing the story when people were complaining there wasn't enough Kira, then this mobile suit would have been God-Like, unlike Jesus Yamato and the Strike Freedom. I still can't believe that in Gundam Seed he fricken survivied the Aegis Self-Destruct, there was absolutly no time for him to escape, WTF?
@Comangeit like you said, he's god-like.. an emo pussy god-like piece of shit.. same goes for shinn, except he's not a pussy but still he's an emo piece of shit..
indeed seed destiny is garbage, along with wing and g gundam.
gundam x and 00 just barely scrape past the cheese/really predictable line. the only shows people should recognize as proper gundam depictions are zeta, turn a, mobile suit gundam, unicorn and 8th ms team. i personally donno how you guys can like this garbage, boggles the mind.
@left4deadian I love people who rage and cant english - but yeah I probs shouldnt be a dick and insult what other people like.
But honestly, If youve ever seen zeta, mobile suit gundam, unicorn, turn a and 8thms team, then watch say destiny, wing or g and enjoy it hen you need to honestly raise your standards cause these shows production values and story line are really gimmicky and shallow.
In the anime world, when you defend shows like seed, wing or g, your metaphorically defending walmart.
@toketokepass nah i dont care i im like defending walmart im not a narrow minded person like u who only likes watching uc and downgrading alternate universes get a life please.
as bdss as Destiny is, its to overpowered all in all i like kira and Freedom gundam the best. thumbs down me if you feel like it will solve anything but its still a badazz show 8D
Wow its like a massive ragefest in here LOL... Suuuureee Shin is so awesome that he gets his leg kicked off and his fight with Athrun lasts 3 seconds. And in the first second he gets his wings cut off. Damn... Seriously, I watched Gundam for FUN not like. O SHIET.. I MUST STUDY ALL THE CHARACTERS AND FULLY UNDERSTAND THE STORY INSIDE OUT.. So yeah, for people like me who watch it for the ACTION, the constant whiny scream Shinn makes is annoying. as hell.
i love the destiny gundam suit but i really kinda dont like the pilot shinn. I can see they tried to make him more of a relatable character because he actually seemed alot more human than the other characters but i feel they overdid his immaturity and that made me dislike him a bit. I guess though him getting bad ass destiny gundam makes up for it? XDD
@yugiohming Because I can't comment on a show I havent seen, and now I have seen it, I can safely say it sucks BALLS! Also don't use that argument in the future, it's quite a stupid thing to say.
@left4deadian LOL I c an just tell you're a foolish Seed Destiny fanboy. How does it feel to worship the worst Gundam series, with the worst character development and the most overpowered mobile suits ever?
@madpat2007 worst character development and most overpowered? omg im sure you havent watched gs gsd cause you are so dumb and ignorant. most overepowered? o yeah your so dumb im sure you havent watch wing and 00 mobile suits either get a life scum!
@left4deadian No other Gundam series has such spammy beam battles. NONE OTHER! Also would you care to explain why at the beginning of the series Shin was a queer emo and at the end of the series he was still a queer emo. NO character development at all! Please stop being blinded by your gay infatuation with Shin and see the real picture! SEED DESTINY IS GARBAGE!
@madpat2007 your really an ignorant idiot have you watch 00? ohh my even there have spammy beam battles and ridiculous overpowered ms if you hate destiny then why are you in this vid?
@left4deadian Yes I have seen 00, and although there are moments of spam beam weapons in the battles it's nowhere near as bad as oh i dunno.... DESTINY. Surely you remember the Stike Freedom when it looks onto several targets at once and suddenly fires like 20 beams, all of which hitting their targets.
Shinn is the best, plotkai saved a lot of asses in destiny. Kira, should had obviously died, Athrun should had died. In the end, Shinn only lost cause of the creator. He even allowed Kagalli to perform on Shinn level so she wouldn't get ROLFPWN'D. I still demand my ACTUAL alternate ending where Shinn kicks ass like hes suppose too and not his machine's leg breaking in some bs fashion the way it did.
OtakuDORA 2 days ago
go shinn asuka! 3rd favorite pilot behind setsuna and kira!
blackarrow929 1 week ago
ah, the classic case of love the gundam, hate the pilot.
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thepryooper 4 weeks ago
i don't understand why everbody hates shinn, and that he is mentaly fucked, if i where in his situation i would fell exacly the same. first his family is laying dead before him, then he joins the military and meets the dumb bitch stellar ( dont understand why he loves her) that heales a little of his pain from the death of his family. and then she dies, so i really think anybody else in that situation would want to do suicide, and after that the only thing left for him is anger and hatred.
ollebullebello 1 month ago
@ollebullebello because all the reasons to like him (ie any skill with mobile suits and sense of justice) dissapeared as he got the destiny gundam (he had no moments of ingenuity with it and essentially became a cultist of zaft head person guy). oh and the series made all of his actions evil as soon as god yamato arrived, so that made people dislike him.
TheThatguyoverthere 4 weeks ago
@TheThatguyoverthere
that and the fact that awesomes wise, the v2 gundam which had the original wings of light, was a hundred times more badass (although at least five times worse looking, just a thing that comes with being too badass in universal century)
funny thing about beam boomerangs is that in U.C. people threw their sabers, people in seed think it was a good idea to make actual boomerangs. Yes, the militaries are that stupid. GG cosmic era
kevinlei92 3 weeks ago
@kevinlei92 i don't watch too much uc (apart from unicorn) so i can't really comment but i'll say that they really didn't do much with destiny which is a shame (most scenes are just shinn chopping things up in emo mode :/)
as for the boomerangs, i never really quite got how a thrown boomerang could catch up to something faster than a fighter jet :P that and how they always managed to get them to hit
TheThatguyoverthere 2 weeks ago
@TheThatguyoverthere
lol your on the first step to greatness. friend.
now all you need to know is that swords are better swung with much longer and flexible arms, and that rifles will always be better than a sword in combat because of speed.
they got really lazy these days, not doing war damage and all. By saying shit like 'PS' armor or GN coating. yea, bad excuse not to show your mecha getting damaged. Its like a bunch of guys playing a game with god mode on and saying they were great.
kevinlei92 2 weeks ago
@kevinlei92 haha i made a comment a while back about how 00 gundam ever made it into melee when the army could just barrage them like they did in first season (i mean, the only thing stopping them in first season was not knowing where cb was)
TheThatguyoverthere 2 weeks ago
@TheThatguyoverthere
yea the problem with 00 was that it lacks common sense. it also trolled in a epically fail way, by not having a chick in the cast. Season one was .. alright, it was some what ok, its season 2 that made me faceplant and just completely throw 00 aside. The movie was even worse than s2. i asked myself how bad could 00 possible get after the ending of s1, and got my slap in the face with a trail blazing rage from understanding aliens.
kevinlei92 2 weeks ago
@TheThatguyoverthere wa? his action were always bad it was just sugar coated to look nice. kira was the only one who dint buy in to him that all
negima47 2 weeks ago
@negima47 naw the fight with the freedom (the one with blast impulse and the the one where he destroys it) were both nice and the one where he destroys the orb fleet for the first time was good too
TheThatguyoverthere 2 weeks ago
WHAT SONG USE??..ITS WONDERFULL!!!..AND OF COURSE GUNDAM!!!
Ebissan 1 month ago
In terms of Gundam, Destiny was so much better than Strike Freedom imo. All they did was take Freedom, added gold framing, a DRAGOON system, and more firepower (you couldn't possibly miss with all that firepower), while Destiny had a more original design. It's just unfortunate that Shinn was a total tool and would've been much better if he didn't listen to Rey and joined Athrun/Kira.
darkxzero13 1 month ago
@darkxzero13 i do like the destiny's design but it isnt that original (apart from the face :P). imo the series would have been better if they hadnt made shinn a scapegoat for everything and instead made all parties have their flaws
TheThatguyoverthere 1 month ago
@TheThatguyoverthere Indeed, I agree that Shinn would've been better in a different role. However, I think Destiny is original in that it took all the pros of the GAT-X series and made them all work with a new look- and yes, the head is one of the best I've built on a gundam model kit :P
darkxzero13 1 month ago
@darkxzero13 Yea, I totally agree except that Strike Freedom has a much better name :)
shipp0master 1 month ago
I liked the original Gundam SEED more than any of the gundams in story, chars, music.
Destiny was not as good but kept me hooked on.
EliMiX 2 months ago
and more is
kira begins to actually shoot and kill people. He begins to do this as he has support from other people. And at the very end, he wasn't a pussy at all. he was a gud person who tried to stop this war and all this fighting. and also, he stopped crying and finally became a soldier
Keviii291 2 months ago
Ok, this is what i think
I believe that Seed is actually a very good series, the plot and the story is just really good to me. Why? there are lots of reasons. one of them is, the character Kira, at first, he was just a normal school kid, but he develops as he pilots the gundam. yes, he WAS a cry baby, had trouble killing, but who doesnt? he was just a normal kid, if it was u, i dont think u could kill someone at the start, this is why this show is quite realistic.
Keviii291 2 months ago
I hate Kira as a character. It's not just because of all this fanboys/girls, because there are tons, but it's because he's such a goody two shoes and, in my opinion, a pussy. I don't like Shinn either, he wines too much, but at least he's not afraid to kill someone. Overall, I don't really like many of the Seed Destiny pilots. The Destiny Gundam is awesome though.
darknessengulfsme 2 months ago
Aww yeah Destiny Gundam is my fave!
GundamChao 3 months ago
yes strike freedom would win in space...................not so much in atmosphere ie. the lack of its signature weaponry the dragoons which cant be used within the atmosphere thats where the destiny would take that one (bring athrun in and you get the show)
henikio 3 months ago
FYI
Gundam has always been an anti-war story according to its creators. Shins motivations for fighting were anger and revenge. These are understandable motives but the ultimat emessage of gundam is that we must overcome those emotions.
Because of this Shin was a clear nati-hero in the gundam universe and so was always going to have to be schooled by the true themed heros, athran and kira...as they have reached a point of violence only when needed and kill only when they have to.
ronanscreed 3 months ago
FYI
According to production interviews: The destiny gundam was an idea made during the creation of the original gundam seed. It was supposed to be an amalgum of all the different strike gundam modes. The guy in charge decided it wasnt quite right so they went on and created the freedom. Later on, when talking about doing another seed story, they brought the destiny gundam in and worked the lore so it fit with Shin and his story.
ronanscreed 3 months ago
i wish they would've used the original idea they had for Shinn instead of keeping him a emotional wreck the whole time
Xinathor 4 months ago
@Xinathor Which was what exactly? As far as I can tell it would have been him and Ray being Gestapo of the world crushing anyone or anything that stood in the chairman’s way. Now if Shinn had grown as a character the same way Kamille did in Zeta but went against the chairman, Kira only had a cameo role like Amuro did in Zeta, and Athrun wasn’t a wuss and actually did a better job of tutoring Shinn it would have been a far better series.
animeownage86 2 months ago
@animeownage86 i agree with you and that was the original plan for the most part but if it wasn't for them giving into fan service and the directer letting his wife take over the script we would have had one epic Gundam show
Xinathor 2 months ago
@Xinathor
and you know the original plan how?
ronanscreed 2 months ago
@ronanscreed i seen some dude talking about it then i started investigating it
Xinathor 2 months ago
@Xinathor
Hmm..what exactly did they say? no offence intended...but I often hear repeated statements that arent so accurate. I'm not saying youre wrong just that id like some clarification.
ronanscreed 2 months ago
@ronanscreed i don't exactly 100% remember but the stuff i have seen is stuff that the Voice Actors were saying you might look around for it and i'd tell you where to look but i was all over the place investigating it
Xinathor 2 months ago
@Xinathor
fair enough
ronanscreed 2 months ago
@Xinathor thats what happens when the director decides to let elitist fans run the show instead of thier own original intentions. Its a shame cuz the series couldve have been better if maintained the attention on shin throughout the whole series allowing him to grow and develop.
TheOriginalHigh 2 months ago
@TheOriginalHigh heck yeah i liked Kira but in all honesty i'd have no problem with him dying if Shinn stepped up and became what he was supposed to be
Xinathor 2 months ago
@TheOriginalHigh
Wait. How do we know what they originally planned? I never saw any interviews where they said anything like what youre describing...
ronanscreed 2 months ago
@ronanscreed seed being the spiritual successor to the original mobile suit gundam, seed destiny was supposed to be the successor to zeta gundam.If you haven't watched zeta gundam you will see that they introduced a new character named Kamille and even tho they had appearances of the older cast thier was not doubting that the main character was always Kamille. Shinn was supposed to be the Kamille of seed destiny and they are similliar in alot of ways like they both dont do well with authority,
TheOriginalHigh 2 months ago
@TheOriginalHigh Personally, I prefer Kamille to Shinn, Kamille was much much more likeable than Shinn. With Shinn you just wanted to Bright Slap him every time he threw tantrums and whined about shit. With Kamille I laughed and at the same time if felt a sense of empathy. Kamille had a balance about him, he was rash, somewhat childish and rushed into a lot of things, but in the end, he developed a lot as a character ( unlike Shinn), and I think that was due to the excellent supporting cast.
Earthen80 2 months ago
@ronanscreed they both lost their families and funny enough they both are ragers in battle (maybe shinn is a little more). The seed destiny=zeta was intentional and they intended shinn to be the main character but the main problem is fukuda because he decided to do in my opinion a moronic thing and let the fans dictate the show. Also with seed introducing alot of new fans to gundam many of them worshipped kira lol and werent familiar with how a usual gundam show is all about so naturally they
TheOriginalHigh 2 months ago
@ronanscreed the MANY fans (not all of them) told fukuda, "Hey Fuck you we want kira the main character we dont want shinn cuz we lame and dont want a good character development to take place in seed destiny plus we loves freedom lolz" so being unfaithful to his work he changed it for those ignorant and IN MY OPINION stupid because FUCK man seed destiny would have been AMAZING if they let shinn develop like Kamille did in zeta gundam. THATS WHY FANSERVICE IS BULLSHIT! Unless its for mechs hehe
TheOriginalHigh 2 months ago
When I look at Destiny Gundam I am really reminded of the Epyon from Gundam Wing. It's primaraly a Close range suit even though it has mid range weaponry its true strength is that Massive ati-ship sword along with its overwhelming speed. Kinda like Epyon who's primary weapon was its Sword while it had the Heat whip as its mid range weapon and also used speed to make up for its short commings.
Vert344 5 months ago
Even though the Destiny Gundam is THE WORST gundam ever created with Shinn being the most Horribly Developed Gundam Character ever created....
I will give you props for this AMV, cuz this is VERY WELL MADE!!!!
JOB WELL DONE, BRO!!! ;-)
P.S. anybody who is in question as to WHY the Destiny itself is bad:
/watch?v=vpbEUdL25Vw
NUFF SED!!
WackyModder84 6 months ago
@WackyModder84 lol your the best i want more
Footballer13th 4 months ago
@Footballer13th
oh, thats okay! =)
I got one for the Strike Freedom too!
/watch?v=5-ZT7A7mnGY
WackyModder84 4 months ago
ok destiny gundam is a total bad ass mobile suit but shinn is a total fucker. i dont like kira because he's a pussy but i think kira would win for sure cuz kira is a super coordinator. case closed haha
garth526 6 months ago 2
stop hating shinn.
plumpywing 6 months ago
I have never seen a bad Gundam This is one of the best
TheDarkhorse5 7 months ago
look everyone is all talking about who would in shinn or kira. my solution to this is to get them both in a DINN or GINN and get them to fight without any advantages and then see who wins
astar2702 8 months ago
@astar2702 Now THAT would be an interesting fight!
Raptor232 7 months ago
hheeeaa,,. shinn is not bad, but he needs a heavy punch in the face to wake up.. and for me, maybe kira is fit with that, to explain, and tell shinn something to calm down..
dinjun09 8 months ago
that shinn is not a bad guy. he was just drowning with anger, and hatred. i thimk kira can handle him, but not in mobile suit fight,. i'm not saying that kira is no match for him, but observing what kira is doing, you know that the freedom fights only when necessary, but he just disabling mobile suits, not not killing the pilots. unlike shinn.. for me, shinn needs a heavy hit in the head to be pulled in the right way you know..
dinjun09 8 months ago
yohw,. people,. they're excelent pilots from kira, athrun, shin, and even those who do not possess the seed, they're just fighting in different sides, and still having some pressures and confusions. and, come to think of it,. their mobile suits are base on their previous fighting data. they're all good, but they different beliefs,. shinn is not bad. for me kira can wake him up, but i guess not in mobile suit fighting. they can be good friends tooo.. hehehe.. wat do ya think?
dinjun09 8 months ago
its funny that such a bad series can actually has one of the cooler MS designs in recent gundam series, even if it is just a continuation of the rip-off-Victory Gundam trend they did with Impulse.
ZKoftherebellion 9 months ago
song name?
youknowtherules22 9 months ago
@youknowtherules22 Wake Up - Three Days Grace
DeusExNull 8 months ago
@DeusExNull thank you
youknowtherules22 8 months ago
Good vid my least favorite series has one of my top 10 favorite gundams it's kinda funny. I like how every one keeps arguing over who's the better pilot or which is the strongest gundam every pilot has their own strengths and weaknesses same for every gundam.
pmendoza2698 9 months ago
awsome amv the destiny is just the most awsome suit i know. the pilot shinn asuka is awsome to thanks for uploading this amv
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MsLacusKira 10 months ago
@Brazilianman92 DAMN RIGHT!!!! Speak the truth!!!!!!!
TheAceman45 10 months ago
shinn is a beast plain and simple
brazilianman92 10 months ago
1:03 that's too weird
madmad169 10 months ago
Gotta say this, Destiny Gundam is badass eh, it has poh sword (Lunar 2), shining finger(G gundam), sonic boom(street fighter), beams, half physical/half energy wings, and magical blurr powers. the machine rocks yoh. the pilot sucks though hes a crazy emo with no justice just hate for war and orb "my opinion dont bite my head off please"
terdmongoler 11 months ago
Let's everybody jst calm the fuck down, everyone has a favourite character let's jst leave it at dat nd watch the vid XD
Spirits4LifeDa2nd 11 months ago
@7kiku7honda7japan I wanna say he still sucks bt you have a point
TheAceman45 11 months ago
Kira's cool bt gets to emotional athrun sucks completely and shinn gets mind fucked too easily. All the aces have their flaws
TheAceman45 11 months ago
@TheAceman45 Yes athrun the guy who dismembered destiny without a scratch and still ended up saving shinn sucked completely
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
@7kiku7honda7japan Look , Shinn was having a mental breakdown and hallucination , which makes him unable to pilot properly. Thats the only reason Athrun 'won' without a scratch. We don't have a clear view of his piloting skills in GSD.
As for Athrun 'sucking' , I feel that him constantly switching sides ALL the time ( In GS & GSD) made me feel that he sucks (Obviously not refering to his skills)
johnnymama123 11 months ago
@johnnymama123 If you remember the rest of the series, that is when he did his best. When he destroyed the orb fleet he was under a lot of stress. When he took down the freedom he was still crazy and grieving from stella dying. He does better under these little breakdowns as they increase his focus and pretty much make him unstoppable, but athrun was still able to dismember destiny like it was nothing. It's true he's a great pilot with an amazing mobile suit, but he's rash and inexperienced.
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
@7kiku7honda7japan The one he had in the end of the series is nothing compared to the 'stress' he felt in the past few battle.
When he destroyed Orb fleet , he was determined to live . And the battle with freedom, Stella's death motivated him .His not 'crazy' at there.
If you want to know what is crazy , thats what happened to him in the final battle against Athrun .He basically went crazy + hallucinated. This severely crippled him . Its like Athrun disabling a Destiny without a pilot in it.
johnnymama123 11 months ago
@johnnymama123 No. maybe the orb fleet was nothing, but I think it would be a lot more painful and mind warping when the one you love dies than when you don't know what to fight for. The confusion and rage he feels is his strength, not a setback. Athrun was an ace that was proficient at piloting a mobile suit before shinn even joined zaft, plus he was fighting infinite justice at it's optimum range so he really didn't stand a chance.
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
@7kiku7honda7japan The one on the last one is actually crippling him. Do you know what hallucination is? Do you know what mental breakdown is? Define these terms and you will know it DOES NOT HELP. This is the only time that he 'broke' . The others is not even close to be called mental breakdown. Stress from the war and confusion has consumed him.
johnnymama123 11 months ago
@johnnymama123 Umm ya I am not a retard it's sad when you don't know what that means, but he really wasn't hallucinating much. Mental breakdown? shinn was a heartless jerk (cool, but also kinda annoying,) but even he broke down when stella died. you can't compare the pain he felt when she died to the confusion durandal put in his head, one was absolutely devastating but the other was more tolerable. I am pretty sure the way he felt for stella was stronger than his allegiance to ZAFT.
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
@7kiku7honda7japan Im not saying your a retard ok? Don't get the wong idea. Unless your really one that is. If you really know what it is , you would know it will get him into trouble in a fight , he couldn't even stop attacking when Luna got infront of him. Basically he didn't saw Luna at all , instead he saw his loved ones and freedom. Thats how bad the hallucination and Mental breakdown is. Not Hallucinating much? His heartless? Cool.
johnnymama123 11 months ago
@johnnymama123 I'm not. It would if it were serious, but it's not like he was seein colors while fighting athrun. But to be honest he attacked luna for getting in his way. He was questioning durandal that is true, but again it was more something at the back of his mind than the main focus. At the time all he could think about is killing athrun and blowing up the freedom while defending the messiah. Or at least that is what the show conveyed. If that was really the intent, then it was poorly done
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
@7kiku7honda7japan Well , GSD is not notorious for nothing. The show shows that Kira and gang is like the good guys , but in an interview with the director , he states that Kira and gang had strayed from the path of justice , which actually is true if you look at the plot in a political view. Poor writing is the reason for all these 'wars' among fans for so many years.
johnnymama123 11 months ago
@7kiku7honda7japan When he 'broke' when fighting Athrun , the stress from the war exploded inside his head(which includes Stellar dying , Freedom terrioristing the battlefield and losing his families) . Your point is he is completely fine and actually 'powered up' when fighting Athrun , which is just invalid and sounded riduculous as proven by the animation.
johnnymama123 11 months ago
@johnnymama123 He was fine. If you want to see crazy and hallucinations look at 00QAN(T) as setsuna fought the ELS. From what the show showed, he was just wanting to get it over with, and by some random mistake that shouldn't even have happened his mobile suit got completely destroyed. Now if that was what they wanted to convey, again it was so poorly done that you really couldn't tell. I'm not a seed hater or a shinn hater, but facts are facts. He lost that fight fair and square.
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
@johnnymama123 so really he has no excuse for what happened in front of the messiah. He made a stupid mistake, thrust himself into infinite justice's optimum combat range, and suffered a humiliating defeat. Now I am not saying that he deserved that cause to be frank he decimated everything in his path and even took down the mighty freedom just by planning his attacks and studying his opponents weaknesses, yet he got taken down for such a stupid mistake. Poor plot writing.
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
@7kiku7honda7japan ...which what you said here is completely out of point. People is calling him heartless for killing in a WAR? LOL? Besides , he feel that it is nessary to prevent the tragedy that happened to him . How is this heartless? His fighting to stop the war and people is bashing him left and right...his confused , and emotionally tortured, and viewers don't want to try to understand him.
johnnymama123 11 months ago
@johnnymama123 No, that he actually thinks that killing would end the war. that is how but it's not the point. He is tortured and yeah his life sucked a whole lot, but the way the series conveyed that was less than perfect, so that is why people don't feel bad for him.
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
@7kiku7honda7japan People is just mad at him opposing out GS main characters. Yes , poor plot writing.
johnnymama123 11 months ago
@johnnymama123 It was poor plot writing, Infinite justice should have at least been badly mangled at least. But no it was disappointing that they guy who took down the freedom and an entire fleet was taken down that easily. The fights were less than amazing.
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
@johnnymama123 My apologies, I meant 00 Raiser not QAN(T) he was fine when he used the QAN(T)
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
I don't mean to create waves, but I dislike SEED. SEED DESTIY was better imo but I still didn't enjoy it as much as the UC timeline related series. But that doesn't mean I hate everything about it necessarily... I hated Kira, period. I hated the freedom/strike freedom, period. But I enjoyed Shinn as a character, he is probably one of my favorite characters in any Gundam series so far. The Destiny is one of my favorite Gundam designs as well, and I look forward to getting the Master Grade!
PaceBreaker23 1 year ago 4
~The comment below me is meant for the YouTube user ''left4deadian''.
Newtamaki 1 year ago
~You just proved my point lol.You keep denying the fact that your not a SEED/Destiny Basher and yet you clearly hated on Shinn's character with that comment you posted.I'm not gonna insult you or contradict your statements.Arguing with you is a complete waste of time.And go ahead and keep insulting me,your insults let you achieve nothing except reveal the true colors of your stupidity.Period.
Newtamaki 1 year ago 4
shinn is not a better pilot then athrun or kira because they have more exp but the gundam destiny is better
TheRain169 1 year ago
活躍しなかった(脚本のせいで活躍させてもらえなかった)かわいそうな主人公機だけど…悪魔的なデザインがカッコイイ!
xxg01d2 1 year ago
jk
avatarann9 1 year ago
jk
avatarann9 1 year ago
とてもよい動画なんだけど...最後に福田のksの名前を出す必要はなかったのでは...?
xxg01d2 1 year ago
i think all the ppl says that shin lost because of his mental breakdown is completely bullshit, think of this, before shin mental break down his laser sword got destroyed already. his long distance weapons wont do shit as athrun can dodge easily. so what he got left - hand cannons which the mental breakdown didnt affect it coz regardless he used it to attack and it's a good choice to use it but got owned by justice double laser sword instead. Mental breakdown only cause shin attack recklessly
Eviser1993 1 year ago
@Eviser1993 part of the reason why he got owned even when in seed mode and athrun isn't is that shinn idiotically used an anti-"SHIP" sword against a "MOBILE SUIT".. apparently he thinks it's cool because of it's huge ass size and shinntards go "kya! kya!" when he use it in combination with the wings of light.. what he failed to realize is that only one edge of it has beam emitter and the other edge is easily destroyed by a clever maneuver in athrun's part.. durrrrr
ponkadolz 1 year ago
@ponkadolz Wrong , the one who plotted the story somehow made Shinn had mental problems whenever he faces Kira/Athrun . Thats why after episode 34 , we don't get any good fights from the show anymore . Like in orb , Kira returns and shocked shinn , athrun returns and double shocked him , making him mentally unstable ,the final battle where he loses his mind? They are just trying to avoid Shinn fighting Kira/Athrun properly .
johnnymama123 1 year ago
@johnnymama123 the one who plotted the story ultimately has control over all that's happening and what's going to happen.. is your QQing gonna change what already happened? NO.. it won't change a damn thing.. it won't change the fact that shinn can be easily mind raped.. -_-"
ponkadolz 1 year ago
@ponkadolz True , but no harm sharing my opinions right? lol.
johnnymama123 1 year ago
@Eviser1993 Hand cannons is not a good choice , he could have used the beam shields at the back of Destiny's palm to block .If he didn't had a mental breakdown he would use it. If not i will have seen him using the palm cannons to block beams in the show, lol.
johnnymama123 1 year ago
and now that i remember it, shinn didn't have a mental breakdown in phase 43 but athrun still pwned him.. durrrrrr
ponkadolz 1 year ago
@ponkadolz His shocked that he was alive , while he did not broke down , its obvious that his not in a clear state of mind.
johnnymama123 1 year ago
anyone notice that the Destiny Gundam's hand cannons look a lot like The Shining gundam's shining finger from G-Gundam?
Megidramon 1 year ago
as far as piloting skills is concerned, there's not a single fair and square battle than happened so it can't be accurately measured. but if you base it on the battles and how they won, then i could say athrun is the best.
as for the most interesting character, i'd say gilbert. i really don't understand why some people likes an angsty emo cry baby tool like shinn.. oh well, to each their own..
ponkadolz 1 year ago
@ponkadolz I agree with your first paragraph .
But the second...I think Rau le Creuset is most interesting. Although Gilbert thinks of him as a tool , you can't say he is one . He believed Gilbert , and followed his ideals after rey persuaded him to do so. He actually have doubts before this , if rey didn't do so , we will see Shinn + Kira + Athrun vs Rey. I really don't understand why people would like an emo cry baby terrorising hypocrite like Kira.. oh well, to each their own..
johnnymama123 1 year ago
@johnnymama123 le creuset wanted everyone dead while durandal wanted to make a perfect world.. i'd prefer someone who would avoid bloodshed if possible.. but that's just me..
and again, there's no use QQing over something you don't have control with(the story).. it'll just depress you.. just deal with it, that's the only thing you can do..
ponkadolz 1 year ago
@ponkadolz Glad to see you changing your opinion after one month , this is the way to go.
johnnymama123 1 year ago
@ponkadolz Btw i wouldn't want le creuset in real life lol. This is just an anime , its entertaining to see him scheming and watching him go .
johnnymama123 1 year ago
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~I don't call everyone who disagree's with me ''retarded''.I respect their opinions but if they hate on my opinions and facts simply because I refuse to be Kira Fan,then I engage in a pointless argument that they created.I suppose that since they've had their say,I think it's only fair that I have my say.That is the only reason why I even bother to reply to their laughable one sided short-sided statements.If I look like a ''ignorant, holier-than-thou moron'' that's your opinion plain & simple.
Newtamaki 1 year ago 2
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@Newtamaki wow, just wow. what about your reply on my comments on the other videos? you only replied insults and personal attacks instead of giving a counter argument. what a fucking hypocrite.
ponkadolz 1 year ago
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~Let's get one thing straight,I don't hate Kira.I simply dislike the Kira Fans who claim that Kira is the best pilot in the entire Gundam Franchise(when in fact hes not) and they disagree with anyone who doesn't agree with them.They hate on the opinions of others and once they run out of verbal counter arguments,they resort to rude behavior and insults.They don't realize that the more they defend their self righteous naive plot armored idol,the more people start to dislike Kira Yamato.
Newtamaki 1 year ago 3
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@Newtamaki NO U. this statement definitely fits you more
ponkadolz 1 year ago
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''GeneralRaptor888''
~First of all,I am NOT a Shinn fanboy so you basically called me a ''fanboy'' blindly.Simply because I contradict KiraFanTards when they bring pathetic statements to the debate table such as ''If Kira wanted to kill Shinn,he would have killed him in a matter of seconds'' and ''Kira is unbeatable,Shinn only won because Kira was not serious'',that doesn't make me fanboy.Those statements and statements related to those are stupid and false.
Newtamaki 1 year ago 4
''ponkadolz''
~There is a perfectly good explanation as to why Shinn lost the battle between him and Athrun in Gundam SEED Destiny episode 50.He was having a mental breakdown.No one is interested in your opinions or your insults,so just do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut.Your mentally challenged insults don't affect me or anyone else.
Newtamaki 1 year ago 18
@Newtamaki
Oh, I'm sure it all sounds perfectly reasonable, please, go on. I'm sorry, it's just fun to see a Shinn fanboy bust his ass trying to defend his precious character by calling everyone who disagrees with him retarded. I suppose that people are just dying to know your opinion, obviously, so please, continue to run your mouth and look like an ignorant, holier-than-thou moron.
GeneralRaptor888 1 year ago
@Newtamaki Umm that and he didn't know infinite justice had a beam in it's leg.
7kiku7honda7japan 11 months ago
@Newtamaki Keep talking the truth brother :) !
Joseph132100 10 months ago
@Newtamaki yeah thats true i mean how can you kill someone when you are seeing the people you cared for fglash before your eyes. also the justice has god knows how many beam swords and the whole foot sword think is just pure wuss
NatakuGundam15 9 months ago
@Newtamaki
(After loosing to him previously) Shin once beat Kira because
1: he was following someone elses strategy.
2: he had the support of his ship to send him new parts after kira choped him up.
On the other hand athrun beat kira by
1: realizing they were equals
2: attaching his gundam to kiras and self detonating...
so..
Athrun has shown the skills of kira, and better strategy..besting both Kira and Shin
Athrun is the clearly superior pilot in the series.
ronanscreed 3 months ago
@ronanscreed ...i have to point out that the strategy shin used involved exploiting kira kindness not to shoot to kill i really thought that was lame at the time, however i agree with you athrun is the best pilot in the series.
syraneko 3 months ago
@syraneko
youre right about that. Kira was holding back and they knew he would.
ronanscreed 3 months ago
@ronanscreed Kira has also beat Athrun if I remember correctly and it was 4 v Kira. When Athrun self detonated his Gundam on Kira's, that was considered a draw imo. It was said that Athrun won because everyone thought Kira died. The other Gundam pilot must submit, retreat or die for an actual win to count with the superior Gundam pilot still alive, concious, and standing. Besides Kira's the ultimate coordinator as well. But imo I think Kira+Athrun are the best pilots in the Seed and GSD series.
pizzahizza 2 weeks ago
@pizzahizza
As I mentioned before, the problem with the series is that two pilots are often set against each other when one has seed mode and one doesn't..or some other obviously unbalanced situation.
Thing is when Athrun detonated his gundam on kiras gundam...Athrun walked away healthy while kira needed serious medical attention. In my book, when you look at the end result of a fight. The guy who is still standing beat the guy who is near comatose!
:)
ronanscreed 2 weeks ago
@ronanscreed Athrun didn't walk away healthy.. he was found unconcious and put on a medical bed. He also had to have a cast and get bandages as well. So it was a draw.
pizzahizza 2 weeks ago
@pizzahizza
Well if that is the case then I remembered it incorrectly. I will concede sir. :)
ronanscreed 2 weeks ago
too bad it got raped by athrun and the infinte justice..fufufufu
ponkadolz 1 year ago
@ponkadolz It wasn't a fair fight in the first place. Blame the bad story telling.
johnnymama123 1 year ago
pause at 0.09, OMG those controls would take ages to get used to!
Terrance677 1 year ago
''left4deadian''
~You'll agree with any comment as long as it contains negative talk and hatred towards Shinn because your a Shinn hater and an opinion hater.
In my opinion,left4deadian = Pathetic Annoying Kira Worshiper.
The Destiny Mobile Suit was created with Shinn Asuka in mind.The Destiny was custom built for Shinn Asuka and was based on Shinn's combat data from the Impulse.In other words,it was specifically built for him.That Mobile Suit was assigned to Shinn.Period.
Newtamaki 1 year ago 17
@Newtamaki as if you're one to talk you shinntard, of course it was specifically built for him.. that's why he got owned by athrun even without SEED mode, suck on that fanboy..
ponkadolz 1 year ago
@ponkadolz Shinn's major weakness is his mind , he always seems to be unstable at the most important time. If he could perfect his mind , he would be a force to reckon with.
johnnymama123 1 year ago
@Newtamaki
yeah thats all true, it was even stated by durandal himself.
ThaMachine100 6 months ago
Destiny gundam would be the best gundam in this series IF Shinn Asuka wasn't the pilot.
ilr3593 1 year ago
@ilr3593 agree. hes a shity stupid pilt afterall.
left4deadian 1 year ago
too bad the destiny got wasted by the EARTH forces
101CommanderWarfare 1 year ago
i always really liked Gundam Seed Destiny. i mean the other gundam series in the franchise, they were cool and i liked them to, but they all had the same story line. Seed Destiny brought something new to the anime series. i really liked this vid, i wouldn't have thought to use 3 days grace for GSD. it actually went together well i thought. i personally liked the impulse, but i didn't care for the destiny. this vid actually made the destiny look cool. thanks for this.
AidanCecile 1 year ago
Another video in a line of countless videos on YouTube where the music has neither anything to do with the show nor does it belong. So stupid.
MadonnaProject 1 year ago
Destiny Gundam is the shit! If is wasn't for the the stupid director changing the story when people were complaining there wasn't enough Kira, then this mobile suit would have been God-Like, unlike Jesus Yamato and the Strike Freedom. I still can't believe that in Gundam Seed he fricken survivied the Aegis Self-Destruct, there was absolutly no time for him to escape, WTF?
Comangeit 1 year ago
@Comangeit
By reading MS Gundam SEED Astray you'll get an answer for that.
thetruerasengan 1 year ago
@Comangeit like you said, he's god-like.. an emo pussy god-like piece of shit.. same goes for shinn, except he's not a pussy but still he's an emo piece of shit..
ponkadolz 1 year ago
Destiny proved that a good gundam makes up for a pathetic pilot. As long as your not flying against Athrun.
SPatrickRoss 1 year ago
@cyrel257 his daddy took him to brown town a few to many times.
feeblemind 1 year ago
As much as I love Gundam Seed, G Gundam is the best.
Kudosute 1 year ago
indeed seed destiny is garbage, along with wing and g gundam.
gundam x and 00 just barely scrape past the cheese/really predictable line. the only shows people should recognize as proper gundam depictions are zeta, turn a, mobile suit gundam, unicorn and 8th ms team. i personally donno how you guys can like this garbage, boggles the mind.
toketokepass 1 year ago
@toketokepass then why are u wasting time on this u so called garbage? maybe because ur also a garbage worst than you mentioned.
left4deadian 1 year ago
@left4deadian I love people who rage and cant english - but yeah I probs shouldnt be a dick and insult what other people like.
But honestly, If youve ever seen zeta, mobile suit gundam, unicorn, turn a and 8thms team, then watch say destiny, wing or g and enjoy it hen you need to honestly raise your standards cause these shows production values and story line are really gimmicky and shallow.
In the anime world, when you defend shows like seed, wing or g, your metaphorically defending walmart.
toketokepass 1 year ago
@toketokepass nah i dont care i im like defending walmart im not a narrow minded person like u who only likes watching uc and downgrading alternate universes get a life please.
left4deadian 1 year ago
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@left4deadian 'nah i dont care i im like defending walmart' is where the conversation ended. g.day sir.
toketokepass 1 year ago
WTF
DESTINY IS FUCKED UP
THE EVIL ONE IS THE PROTAGONIST?
but then they changed it to kira on halfway -.-''
phi1s0n 1 year ago
好正 不過我覺得用返gundam d歌會好d
musou9222 1 year ago
as bdss as Destiny is, its to overpowered all in all i like kira and Freedom gundam the best. thumbs down me if you feel like it will solve anything but its still a badazz show 8D
drazul101 1 year ago
i really don't get shinn he is pissed because the freedom killed his parents but as i recall it was the calamity that shot them
coolguy10060 1 year ago
Wow its like a massive ragefest in here LOL... Suuuureee Shin is so awesome that he gets his leg kicked off and his fight with Athrun lasts 3 seconds. And in the first second he gets his wings cut off. Damn... Seriously, I watched Gundam for FUN not like. O SHIET.. I MUST STUDY ALL THE CHARACTERS AND FULLY UNDERSTAND THE STORY INSIDE OUT.. So yeah, for people like me who watch it for the ACTION, the constant whiny scream Shinn makes is annoying. as hell.
NubsLickHarshAss 1 year ago
@NubsLickHarshAss it was fun seeing his ass kicked in the last episode
ponkadolz 1 year ago
go destiny gundam!!!
yugiohming 1 year ago
i love the destiny gundam suit but i really kinda dont like the pilot shinn. I can see they tried to make him more of a relatable character because he actually seemed alot more human than the other characters but i feel they overdid his immaturity and that made me dislike him a bit. I guess though him getting bad ass destiny gundam makes up for it? XDD
variablex 1 year ago
@variablex :D muhahahaha the Destiny will pwn all XD
yugiohming 1 year ago
I can't beilive I'm saying this. But it was so fing cheap that athren was double teamed
phillipher 1 year ago
whats this song? its awsome. it sounds like its from 3 days grace.
phillipher 1 year ago
1:00 is beautyful :3
RicOf1213 1 year ago
this is one of my favorite ever...next to the strike freedom...
love the song =)
crusnik102605 1 year ago
I frickin hate SEED and DESTINY! The Gundams are too overpowered, the characters desings SUCK! and there's too much crying!
FUCK COSMIC ERA!
madpat2007 1 year ago
@madpat2007 if u hate it why do u watch it then?
yugiohming 1 year ago 2
@yugiohming Because I can't comment on a show I havent seen, and now I have seen it, I can safely say it sucks BALLS! Also don't use that argument in the future, it's quite a stupid thing to say.
madpat2007 1 year ago
@madpat2007 ummm ok then
yugiohming 1 year ago
@madpat2007 if you think it sucks then get the fuckout of this vid no life scumbags
left4deadian 1 year ago
@left4deadian LOL I c an just tell you're a foolish Seed Destiny fanboy. How does it feel to worship the worst Gundam series, with the worst character development and the most overpowered mobile suits ever?
madpat2007 1 year ago
@madpat2007 worst character development and most overpowered? omg im sure you havent watched gs gsd cause you are so dumb and ignorant. most overepowered? o yeah your so dumb im sure you havent watch wing and 00 mobile suits either get a life scum!
left4deadian 1 year ago
@left4deadian No other Gundam series has such spammy beam battles. NONE OTHER! Also would you care to explain why at the beginning of the series Shin was a queer emo and at the end of the series he was still a queer emo. NO character development at all! Please stop being blinded by your gay infatuation with Shin and see the real picture! SEED DESTINY IS GARBAGE!
madpat2007 1 year ago
@madpat2007 your really an ignorant idiot have you watch 00? ohh my even there have spammy beam battles and ridiculous overpowered ms if you hate destiny then why are you in this vid?
left4deadian 1 year ago
@left4deadian Yes I have seen 00, and although there are moments of spam beam weapons in the battles it's nowhere near as bad as oh i dunno.... DESTINY. Surely you remember the Stike Freedom when it looks onto several targets at once and suddenly fires like 20 beams, all of which hitting their targets.
madpat2007 1 year ago