I am so confused I hook my 4 100 watt 12 volt panels up positive to positive, negative to negative. I have 12 volts it wont turn on my grid tie which is a 22-60 vdc can I wire 2 panels in series and 2 in parallel to get right voltage. If I hook them all in series my volts are to high. Any advice?
I hook my 4 100 watt 12 volt solar panels up positive to negative and get a reading of 70 volts on my volt meter the grid tie inverter reads fault.? What am I doing wrong?
@jeralli2002 You have hooked your solar panels up in series which increases the voltage. You have exceeded the high limit voltage of the grid tie inverter and making it go into fault. Your inverter should be around 10 to 30 volts or 22 to 50 volts. Rewire your panels to come close to the GTI high limit voltage.
ya pas mis de diode shockly entre ces deux pannaux solair pour empecher que le courant revienne dans les panaux solair, quand il y a de lombre sur un pannaux comme il a fait de le tourner pour montrer les branchemant arriere pendant ce temp la l'autre pannaux solair. es en trin de bruler celui qui es dans l'ombre. attention a ca si vous meter plus que un panaux solair en serie.?????????????
can you tell me how much the kit costs and if the solarpanels are the same as the ones in the video? also what if you need it to go into a 220 volt grid for the people not living in the U.S
Does the grid tie inverter shut off if the electricity goes off to protect the electric workers that go to turn back on the electric ie fix a transformer? I've heard that is the major reason they don't allow do it yourselfers to plug into their grid without a permit or be professionally installed. At least that's what someone told me. I'm trying to find a way around this Sincerely, Neal
@TheChineseEmpire Yes it shuts off when the grid goes down, they all do. It's called island protection. There to simple to use, that's why the utility companies don't want you to have the.
@jeffmolly1, excellent. I have one more problem. I've discovered that the smartmeter prevents any benefit or so it has been said on other forums. Are you successfully using with a smartmeter or is your meter an analog meter? I don't think the smartmeter is meant to be smart for us. Do you know of anyway around this. Thanks for your help you are a true human.
Hi Jeff, thanks for keeping it simple for us newbe's. I am interested in getting a 400 watt wind turbine that they have on ebay that come from China and and maybe later (3) 100 watt solar panels. What do you recommend for the first timer on a budget to get me started and my other question is . At night time the solar panel may not be working but the wind turbine is and when I go to bed and shut everything down as to lighting, tv's, computers and such, what happens to this electricity.
@HappyEndingsRescue Your welcome. Well i have never heard of anyone being happy with a Chinese wind turbine for starters. The electricity gets feed back into the grid when your not using anything.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS SINCE I STATED WATCHING YOU I HAVE BOUGHT SOME SOLAR PANELS AND GRID TIE INVERTER. I KNOW A KIA WATT HOUR IS A 1000 WATTS. SO IF MY PANELS MAKE 100 WATTS OF ENERGY ARE THEY DOING THAT EVERY MINUTE OR EVERY HOUR. SO HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO MAKE THE 1000 WATTS TO MAKE UP FOR ONE KIAWATT HOUR THAT WOULD BE SUBTRACTED FROM YOUR POLE METER IF YOU METER WAS RUNNING BACK WARDS
@chevypowergreen If your panels produce 100W, they will produce that while they're in the sun, which is enough power to drive a 100W incandescent light bulb during that time. After an hour of producing 100W, they will have made 100 Watt-hours, which is enough to power the bulb for 1 hour.
After 10 hours of doing that (over a couple days), they will have made 1000 Watt-hours, or 1 kWh.
hello any idea on how to prevent the snow keep accumulating on my solar panels. i have tried ,salt, hot water, etc, but the snow ,still keeps sticking to my system.
Is that a solar can heater or similar to your left when outside? Just curious. Anyways thanks for the clear instruction and illustrating the solar design of grid tie-ins.
@Jantxx Yes. 2- 500 watt solar grid tie inverters will handle your 800 watts worth of solar panels just fine. the wire size should be #10 or #12 fine stranded cable.
@Jantxx THE POWERJACK 600 AND 1200 WATT INVERTERS ARE JUNK..COULD'NT GET ANYMORE THAN 300 WATTS OUT OF THE 600 ONLY AFTER I REPLACED THE CORD THAT COMES WITH THEM WHICH IS 22 GAUGE AT BEST. WE HAVE 500 WATT INVERTERS THAT PUT OUT 450 WATTS.
If your power goes out the grid tie will stop working, but what about the wind tubine if this happens in strong winds want your windtubine spin to fast and burn up the PDA,,,,,if so is there a way to have a brake for the windtubine or devirt the power some how
Hey these videos are great! i have a question, does the grid tied inverter act like a charge controller? If it doesn't, i would need to put a charge controller in between the panels/generator, to keep the panels from drawing power, right?
@noahcarver I have never heard of such a thing. i think there bullshitting you.
it's not unlike the utility company to lie to keep you from stealing there business.there a business and your trying to use less of there product and get your neighbors to use less of there product.
100's of people tell me there electric bill has went down without a 2 way meter.
MY SOLAR SISTEM HAVE A 600 WATTS TIE INVERTER AND A 50 WATTS SOLAR PANEL, AND WITH ALL THE APPLIANCES ON IN THE HOUSE .IT IS MARKING 4.5 WATTS, HOW MUCH IS THAT TO THE GRID? DO I NEED A BIGGER SOLAR PANNEL TO GET MORE POWER ?
Hi Jeff, its about time someone did vids the right way. Simple but very explanatory. My question is when the power from the power company go out could you shut the main breaker off and then resume using your own power source. If not short of a battery set up what do you need? Having your own power is kind of the point during outages.
Jeff, great job explaining things in your vids. When the power is out from the power company you say this shuts down. I suppose that is for safety to the lineman??? What if you shut your main breaker off? Can you then resume powering your own stuff?
Hey Jeff you are very informative, can you tell me if you can tie a grid tie inverter into a battery bank fed by your wind generator or are they just for solar use? Thank you for your time.
Hey jeff one question. when we run our turbines through batteries what happens when the turbine is not turning .does it drain the batteries untill the GTI shuts down then come back on only when turbine spins thanks for your time
if you have wound your own coils and made your own motor (3 phase) for a VAWT could you plug that kilowatt meter into a wall and then plug your turbine into it directly and see how much it's putting out?
normally you you have 2 wires from your turbine,positive and negative,just hook them to the inverter.sometimes you have to run a turbine thru 2 12 volt batteries in series to get 24 volts,the inverters start at 14 volts.the 2 batteries are to protect the inverter from voltage spikes from the turbine unless you use a small turbine like a 200 watt job.
If this would work I will I be disconnect (shutting off) my main circuit panel from the city Power Grid when we lose power. I couldn't bare the thought or would want to be responsible for harming anyone trying to do there job.
@btechint I understand the Grid inverter will not work if it does not see power. So I can assume it would it be safe connecting both a battery bank to my house wiring (via a outlet or gang box) along with a Grid inverter at the same time from the same solar panel ?
you have some great stuff here
msjessypp 3 weeks ago
This is a great video
sprattysy 1 month ago
"I'm getting 181 watts...this CFL light bulb uses 15 watts...you can run 20 of these cuz the inverter is 300 watts."
WTF???
doctorfuse007 1 month ago
I am so confused I hook my 4 100 watt 12 volt panels up positive to positive, negative to negative. I have 12 volts it wont turn on my grid tie which is a 22-60 vdc can I wire 2 panels in series and 2 in parallel to get right voltage. If I hook them all in series my volts are to high. Any advice?
jeralli2002 4 months ago
@jeralli2002
did you solve your problem of 12v and 24v for your inverter?
crsbt 1 month ago
I hook my 4 100 watt 12 volt solar panels up positive to negative and get a reading of 70 volts on my volt meter the grid tie inverter reads fault.? What am I doing wrong?
jeralli2002 4 months ago
@jeralli2002 You have hooked your solar panels up in series which increases the voltage. You have exceeded the high limit voltage of the grid tie inverter and making it go into fault. Your inverter should be around 10 to 30 volts or 22 to 50 volts. Rewire your panels to come close to the GTI high limit voltage.
Jeff
jeffmolly1 4 months ago
ya pas mis de diode shockly entre ces deux pannaux solair pour empecher que le courant revienne dans les panaux solair, quand il y a de lombre sur un pannaux comme il a fait de le tourner pour montrer les branchemant arriere pendant ce temp la l'autre pannaux solair. es en trin de bruler celui qui es dans l'ombre. attention a ca si vous meter plus que un panaux solair en serie.?????????????
melodic17em 4 months ago
Can i hook (4) 12 volt 100w solar panels to a 600 watt 22-60 vdc grid tie inverter?
jeralli2002 5 months ago
@jeralli2002 yes you can if you run them in series.
Jeff
jeffmolly1 5 months ago
@jeffmolly1 dear jeff ,if nothing is on in my house will this inverter make my meter go backwards. thanks
hayworth111 4 months ago
@hayworth111 Yes it will.
jeffmolly1 4 months ago
@jeralli2002 yes you can if you run them in series.
Jeff
jeffmolly1 5 months ago
@jeralli2002 yes you can if you tie your panels in series.
Jeff
jeffmolly1 5 months ago
can you tell me how much the kit costs and if the solarpanels are the same as the ones in the video? also what if you need it to go into a 220 volt grid for the people not living in the U.S
momo11644 6 months ago
@momo11644 you can get 220 volt GTI's. These are old panels, we have new kits on our website.
jeffmolly1 6 months ago
HEY JEFF,
DO YOU SELL LARGER PLUG IN GRID TIE INVERTERS?
MUDDy
muddymuddymuddmann 6 months ago
Dear Sir,
Does the grid tie inverter shut off if the electricity goes off to protect the electric workers that go to turn back on the electric ie fix a transformer? I've heard that is the major reason they don't allow do it yourselfers to plug into their grid without a permit or be professionally installed. At least that's what someone told me. I'm trying to find a way around this Sincerely, Neal
TheChineseEmpire 7 months ago
@TheChineseEmpire Yes it shuts off when the grid goes down, they all do. It's called island protection. There to simple to use, that's why the utility companies don't want you to have the.
jeffmolly1 7 months ago
@jeffmolly1, excellent. I have one more problem. I've discovered that the smartmeter prevents any benefit or so it has been said on other forums. Are you successfully using with a smartmeter or is your meter an analog meter? I don't think the smartmeter is meant to be smart for us. Do you know of anyway around this. Thanks for your help you are a true human.
TheChineseEmpire 7 months ago
@TheChineseEmpire To many stories about meters. Some true some not.
jeffmolly1 7 months ago
What happens if your solar panle and or wind generator is putting out more wattage than your gidtie inverter can handle ???
RHEAD100 10 months ago
Hi Jeff, thanks for keeping it simple for us newbe's. I am interested in getting a 400 watt wind turbine that they have on ebay that come from China and and maybe later (3) 100 watt solar panels. What do you recommend for the first timer on a budget to get me started and my other question is . At night time the solar panel may not be working but the wind turbine is and when I go to bed and shut everything down as to lighting, tv's, computers and such, what happens to this electricity.
HappyEndingsRescue 11 months ago
@HappyEndingsRescue Your welcome. Well i have never heard of anyone being happy with a Chinese wind turbine for starters. The electricity gets feed back into the grid when your not using anything.
Jeff
jeffmolly1 11 months ago
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS SINCE I STATED WATCHING YOU I HAVE BOUGHT SOME SOLAR PANELS AND GRID TIE INVERTER. I KNOW A KIA WATT HOUR IS A 1000 WATTS. SO IF MY PANELS MAKE 100 WATTS OF ENERGY ARE THEY DOING THAT EVERY MINUTE OR EVERY HOUR. SO HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO MAKE THE 1000 WATTS TO MAKE UP FOR ONE KIAWATT HOUR THAT WOULD BE SUBTRACTED FROM YOUR POLE METER IF YOU METER WAS RUNNING BACK WARDS
chevypowergreen 11 months ago
@chevypowergreen If your panels produce 100W, they will produce that while they're in the sun, which is enough power to drive a 100W incandescent light bulb during that time. After an hour of producing 100W, they will have made 100 Watt-hours, which is enough to power the bulb for 1 hour.
After 10 hours of doing that (over a couple days), they will have made 1000 Watt-hours, or 1 kWh.
Vuelhering 7 months ago
hello any idea on how to prevent the snow keep accumulating on my solar panels. i have tried ,salt, hot water, etc, but the snow ,still keeps sticking to my system.
sterlingsan 1 year ago
This is a very very excellent product. Do you have a dealer here in Canada? Thanks for posting
HHOhybridBuilder 1 year ago
Is that a solar can heater or similar to your left when outside? Just curious. Anyways thanks for the clear instruction and illustrating the solar design of grid tie-ins.
baggetja1234 1 year ago
@baggetja1234 Yes it's a solar can heater.
Jeff
jeffmolly1 10 months ago
Jeff, Mite I assume that wiring my array to 24v is a better Idea for your sun?...A 20 ft run
with 10 gauge should give me very little loss in volts? The way I figure maybe a 3% loss.
Is there a way I can get less loss? Thanks
Dennis
Jantxx 1 year ago
@Jantxx sure, bigger wire
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
Jeff...I like the sun..Will 2 of your 500w be enough for my array? 800w...With the sun,
what should the wire size be?...
Dennis
Jantxx 1 year ago
@Jantxx Yes. 2- 500 watt solar grid tie inverters will handle your 800 watts worth of solar panels just fine. the wire size should be #10 or #12 fine stranded cable.
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
Jeff, do you have anything larger?...I have an 800 array...Or what would you suggest?
Like to get 2 600's or maybe a 1200...Is it better to run 2, or 1 large one?...I'm assuming
trying to keep the heat down will increase longevity?..Any input will help...Thanks
Dennis
Jantxx 1 year ago
@Jantxx THE POWERJACK 600 AND 1200 WATT INVERTERS ARE JUNK..COULD'NT GET ANYMORE THAN 300 WATTS OUT OF THE 600 ONLY AFTER I REPLACED THE CORD THAT COMES WITH THEM WHICH IS 22 GAUGE AT BEST. WE HAVE 500 WATT INVERTERS THAT PUT OUT 450 WATTS.
JEFF
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
Are the grid tie inverters safe?
Jantxx 1 year ago
@Jantxx There have been no problems reported as of yet.
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
Can I plug my Wind turbine into the inverter?
crusn16 1 year ago
@crusn16 no you cannot.
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
Jeff would this grid tie inverter work with a new smart meter that my local electric company installed outside my house?
moremov52 1 year ago
@moremov52 I don't know if it would,some people tell me it does.
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
I heard the "plug-in" grid tie inverters are illegal to use in america. Am I wrong?
incendie22 1 year ago
@incendie22 yes you are wrong.they are not illegal to use at all. that's CRAP that the utility companies put out.
Jeff
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
thank you, nice and simply explanation we all can understand.
your the best.
tryme2pls 1 year ago
If your power goes out the grid tie will stop working, but what about the wind tubine if this happens in strong winds want your windtubine spin to fast and burn up the PDA,,,,,if so is there a way to have a brake for the windtubine or devirt the power some how
robrice2004 1 year ago
@robrice2004 this inverter is not meant for wind turbines,solar ONLY.
you need the inverter with a dump load feature for wind turbines.
jeff
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
Hey these videos are great! i have a question, does the grid tied inverter act like a charge controller? If it doesn't, i would need to put a charge controller in between the panels/generator, to keep the panels from drawing power, right?
qcages 1 year ago
@qcages No it does not. the panels will not draw power at night. they have built in diodes anyway.
jeff
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
the more power you have the grid tie is the same?
if grid tie is 600 the solar panel will be the same ?
600 watts solar panels???
kricotas 1 year ago
@kricotas that is correct.
jeff
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
so if you have 300 wats solar panels the grid tie have to be 300????
kricotas 1 year ago
@kricotas no,the grid tie can be bigger.
jeff
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
gotta have it !
RAM4486 1 year ago
@noahcarver I have never heard of such a thing. i think there bullshitting you.
it's not unlike the utility company to lie to keep you from stealing there business.there a business and your trying to use less of there product and get your neighbors to use less of there product.
100's of people tell me there electric bill has went down without a 2 way meter.
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
GREAT EXPLANATION,, THANKS
MR. I HAVE A QUESTION
MY SOLAR SISTEM HAVE A 600 WATTS TIE INVERTER AND A 50 WATTS SOLAR PANEL, AND WITH ALL THE APPLIANCES ON IN THE HOUSE .IT IS MARKING 4.5 WATTS, HOW MUCH IS THAT TO THE GRID? DO I NEED A BIGGER SOLAR PANNEL TO GET MORE POWER ?
sterlingsan 1 year ago
@sterlingsan you need a bigger solar panel.closer to 600 watts
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
you rock jeff
nas4x 1 year ago
@nas4x Thanks man
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
Sir:
Can you connect these inverters in parallel?
carajo66 1 year ago
@carajo66 yes you can
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
I would like to hook one of the 500 watt turbine into a plug in grid tie.. do you have a 500 watt version of this model?
w6dce 1 year ago
@w6dce
sorry i don't but the 300 watt will work best with the 500 watt turbine.
jeffmolly1 1 year ago
finally a simple strait to the point video
eidtaaron 2 years ago 9
Hi Jeff, its about time someone did vids the right way. Simple but very explanatory. My question is when the power from the power company go out could you shut the main breaker off and then resume using your own power source. If not short of a battery set up what do you need? Having your own power is kind of the point during outages.
599891 2 years ago 3
Jeff, great job explaining things in your vids. When the power is out from the power company you say this shuts down. I suppose that is for safety to the lineman??? What if you shut your main breaker off? Can you then resume powering your own stuff?
599891 2 years ago
@599891
if you shut your main breaker off your inverter will shut down.the inverter has to see power in your outlet to operate.
jeff
jeffmolly1 2 years ago
Hey Jeff you are very informative, can you tell me if you can tie a grid tie inverter into a battery bank fed by your wind generator or are they just for solar use? Thank you for your time.
tdk1955 2 years ago 2
they are for wind and solar.you don't tie them into a battery bank.they plug into a gfi outlet only.
jeff
jeffmolly1 2 years ago
Hello Jeff. Thanks for this video, I will call after the holidays and order. Brett
TXCoindigger 2 years ago
great job on the video
michael970 2 years ago 2
thank you michael1970..
jeff
jeffmolly1 2 years ago
Hey jeff one question. when we run our turbines through batteries what happens when the turbine is not turning .does it drain the batteries untill the GTI shuts down then come back on only when turbine spins thanks for your time
michael970 2 years ago 2
it drains the batteries down to 14 volts then the inverter shuts off.
we have a voltage regulator that replaces the batteries coming out.this will solve the problem.
jeff
jeffmolly1 2 years ago
Jeff thanks for the quick reply your products on your site look great I will keep you in mind.thanks again happy holidays
michael970 2 years ago 2
if you have wound your own coils and made your own motor (3 phase) for a VAWT could you plug that kilowatt meter into a wall and then plug your turbine into it directly and see how much it's putting out?
IsaacB5679 2 years ago
to isaacB5679
NO YOU CANNOT plug your turbine into the killowatt meter in a wall outlet.you'll get electrocuted,and a fire will result.
jeff
jeffmolly1 2 years ago
any idea when they will be UL approved?
slacker361 2 years ago 2
we have some that are ce and ul approved.
jeffmolly1 2 years ago
some are CE and UL approved now.
jeffmolly1 2 years ago
great job in showing how it work Jeff!
Can you show us how to do that with the wind turbines as well?
econewpower 2 years ago 2
normally you you have 2 wires from your turbine,positive and negative,just hook them to the inverter.sometimes you have to run a turbine thru 2 12 volt batteries in series to get 24 volts,the inverters start at 14 volts.the 2 batteries are to protect the inverter from voltage spikes from the turbine unless you use a small turbine like a 200 watt job.
jeff
jeffmolly1 2 years ago
Thanks very informative video.
LarryMReed 2 years ago 6
@LarryMReed
If this would work I will I be disconnect (shutting off) my main circuit panel from the city Power Grid when we lose power. I couldn't bare the thought or would want to be responsible for harming anyone trying to do there job.
NDpendentconnection 1 year ago
With the grid tie hooked up and running does it accordingly reduce the electric meter tabulation?
btechint 2 years ago 3
yes it does.if your not using any power it will turn your meter backwards.
jeff
jeffmolly1 2 years ago
@btechint I understand the Grid inverter will not work if it does not see power. So I can assume it would it be safe connecting both a battery bank to my house wiring (via a outlet or gang box) along with a Grid inverter at the same time from the same solar panel ?
Thanks for vids.
NDpendentconnection 1 year ago