I just wish all video footage of group b was released! u do relize that peugeot teams recorded full onboards for almost every stage for review. imagine if they created a DVD from that!!!
570PS for this Rally, met Walter in 84 when he won the Ulster driving an S1 (not E2) great guy, very aproachable, very fast but so consistent, we ran the car on secondment from Audi Germany and he drove the S1 at a ridiculous speed and it really was just a component test, the E2 seen here was awesome, so fast but so difficult, huge understeer at ALL times due to engine position, Audi Germany just kept increasing power to combat the better handling mid engined cars, 600PS in Portugal - last rally
fantastic! rorhl has balls the size of melons. slight error at 1:59 shows how hard snow banks are. been watching some old sierra rs500 footage and it shows that big power, simple chassis is the way to go.
@Rik1pk Yes you are right. In my opinion, B-Group was the golden era of motoring stories. Car manufacturers created some really great designs. And at the present time creates a plastic toy. And I do not like the current limitations of the FIA. It is not enough power and far too many stupid restrictions. They want to make F1 WRC. Sorry for my English: D
@piotrek42gv you'r english is more perfect than mine xD
yes yes. i wish i was born in that era, but i am glad to see Colin Macrae, Richard Burns and Carlos Sainz smashing the stages :P
FIA should creat a prototype group like Group-B but with more safety restrictions.... right?
I think the WRC ill be more softer than this... they need small cars, and wide axles, (nex wrc now) plenty of power without any aids, just pure simple skill....
@Rik1pk You're right. The FIA should reactivate the B-Group. thanks once again rallying to have grown very fans. However, the question of safety is only debatable issue. In the class S1600 also are accidents. Currently, we have much better opportunities for the construction of fences safety and security systems than 25years ago. FIA F1 puts on because there is a $ $.
@Rik1pk WRC dies needed Resurrection B-Group. And amazing drivers;) as Henri Toivonen, Walter Röhrl, Juha Kankkunen, Hannu Mikkola and many others. Interesting as advised by the WRC drivers in cars with the power of 600PS without electronic systems.
@piotrek42gv Just driving a car without ABS is dificult on hard breaking points, imagine 600 hp without any traction control and ESP and ABS. That's why that drivers are so so talented. I think the results of Motorsport should depend on the skills of the drivers, not on the machine. Sofisticated cars with no driving aids what so ever it's what i define pure and real motorsport...
@piotrek42gv For the reviews i had the oportunity to see and read about rally car's from 2000 until now, all the journalist said it was very easy to drive, more easy than a normal road car :S. And they compared to the 90's cars and that cars where mechanical and hard to control, so imagine group B.
If you look at this last seasons, Loeb has 7 titles because i doesn't have strong oponents or cars :S.
@Rik1pk - you can't compare Citroen's record to that of Lancia. Today's rallies are so short with no endurance. Audi would have won the World Championship for manufacturers in 1981 and 1983 if the rallies back then would have been as short as they are today because retirements usually came AFTER the length of current events would have already finished by 100's of miles!
@JFBDriverTraining yes i know you're right. When i was a child I remember the days of Colin Macrae, Richard Burns, Carlos Sainz, Tommi makinen and etc, they just had problems after problems with the cars. So i just want to imagine the insane Group B Era...
After the big stumble with the BX, Citroen is going in the right way, so as Ford, i think. The VW group with the Polo it will be awsome and very competetive. I don't like the new huge, and tall "Mini" but in Prodrive factory they are genius!
@JFBDriverTraining - and 1985 might also have been a different story for Audi because Walter Rohrl would easily have won in Portugal (he hit trouble on the final night) and Hannu Mikkola would have won the RAC rally (he retired on stage 22 whilst leading. But as today's rally GB only has about 17 stages, and most of them are repeated over and over again, you get my point).
Since Röhrl is talking very much at the beginning of the video while driving I guess it's the pre-run of the stage where he gives his co-pilot the information about the corners (speed, angle i.e.) which the co-pilot writes down. This pre-run is normally not in full race-speed so probably no helmet is required ^^
love the fact that he seat is way back unlike the other racing drivers especially stupid nascar drivers who cant corner properly
zlotmaster 3 weeks ago
Lovely Driving!!!
mobeenkhan 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
in those years there was a lot of snow, big cars, and great pilots, today..... NOTHING.
drchepa 1 month ago
what pace note system did he use? Does anyone understand what he is saying?
7794filip 2 months ago
@7794filip He is talking in german --> He's from germany ;)
But it is the normal system like Left3; Right4; 200; ...
MrYamahaRD350 1 month ago
what would happen if u put a young walter röhrl in an F1 Car ?
Pitchplus8 4 months ago
@Pitchplus8 young röhrl would be bored
schwalbstar 3 months ago 19
@schwalbstar young Rohrl would also die of boredom in todays WRC.
JFBDriverTraining 2 months ago
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There are two things a man needs in his life. One of them is a turbocharged Audi five cylinder car.
ivojiggy 6 months ago
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Think it is more likely to be a press day outing. Amazing footage which would make all modern health and safety nuts chock on their green tea
ELUSIVEJIM 7 months ago
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ELUSIVEJIM 7 months ago
I just wish all video footage of group b was released! u do relize that peugeot teams recorded full onboards for almost every stage for review. imagine if they created a DVD from that!!!
secretRBRman 9 months ago
sogt er bei 1:56 als er in Schneehaufa eintaucht - Kruzefix?;-)
Kurzb3 10 months ago
@Kurzb3 naaa, er sogt "ah, zefix" :-)
ich find das so wunderbar, weil genau das einer der vielen Dinge ist die ihn auszeichnen und ihn so aussergewöhnlich machen.
Das Streben nach absoluter Perfektion in der Fahrzeugbeherrschung.
andy22223333 7 months ago
He would be at 85%
paultatters 11 months ago
not racing... just taking notes in jeans for the co-driver, for the real Race. Walter Rohrl true living Legend
ivojiggy 11 months ago
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OMG WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no one has seen this footage!! very rare
secretRBRman 11 months ago
570PS for this Rally, met Walter in 84 when he won the Ulster driving an S1 (not E2) great guy, very aproachable, very fast but so consistent, we ran the car on secondment from Audi Germany and he drove the S1 at a ridiculous speed and it really was just a component test, the E2 seen here was awesome, so fast but so difficult, huge understeer at ALL times due to engine position, Audi Germany just kept increasing power to combat the better handling mid engined cars, 600PS in Portugal - last rally
paultatters 1 year ago
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Rally808 1 year ago
Just think what Walter's doing there:
1) Driving a car with around 600hp on an icy, snowy road
2) Concentrating on driving, looking as far ahead down the road where possible and analysing the road
3) Looking at the road and telling Geistdorfer the pace notes to write down for the stage
This is why Group B drivers, in particular, are the very best.
kevatcrewe 1 year ago 3
Monte meister Röhrl,
QuattroS1 to match the best combination.
as good as the best got exactly.
TwinTurboRS 1 year ago
fantastic! rorhl has balls the size of melons. slight error at 1:59 shows how hard snow banks are. been watching some old sierra rs500 footage and it shows that big power, simple chassis is the way to go.
dbwrc 1 year ago
love this video! it's amazing to think it was tken in the 80's, it looks like it could have been taken yesterday!
Qnickel27 1 year ago
Nice rare Vid keep em coming :D
fgtxpaco7458ss 1 year ago
Rare footage. Thanks for the upload. Anymore monte carlo stuff from the group B era?
Marvdogger 1 year ago
1:58 ułaaa.. grubo
piotrek42gv 1 year ago
@piotrek42gv no need for the restart button :P
my idols: walter rohrl and audi quattro s1
Rik1pk 1 year ago
@Rik1pk Henri Toivonen and lancia delta s4. This is King and Queen !!!!
piotrek42gv 1 year ago 9
@piotrek42gv yes no doubt that :P
but i love Walter Rohrl style, 4 WRC titles with 4 diferent cars... no one did that right?
Lancia Delta S4 gives chills but the raging sound of that Audi, god :D
Rik1pk 1 year ago
@Rik1pk Röhrl is 2-time World champion and 4-time Monte winner
037racing 1 year ago
@037racing with 4 diferent cars right?
Rik1pk 1 year ago
@Rik1pk yes, Fiat, Opel, Lancia and Audi
037racing 1 year ago
@Rik1pk But lancia was 10 times world champion: P
piotrek42gv 1 year ago
@piotrek42gv and citroen is going on the same way
Rik1pk 1 year ago
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piotrek42gv 1 year ago
@Rik1pk But citroen ride in the WRC, and lancia in the men's B-Group.
piotrek42gv 1 year ago
@piotrek42gv true but citroen didn't have enough time to teste a group B car (Citroen BX)
Rik1pk 1 year ago
@Rik1pk Yes you are right. In my opinion, B-Group was the golden era of motoring stories. Car manufacturers created some really great designs. And at the present time creates a plastic toy. And I do not like the current limitations of the FIA. It is not enough power and far too many stupid restrictions. They want to make F1 WRC. Sorry for my English: D
piotrek42gv 1 year ago 2
@piotrek42gv you'r english is more perfect than mine xD
yes yes. i wish i was born in that era, but i am glad to see Colin Macrae, Richard Burns and Carlos Sainz smashing the stages :P
FIA should creat a prototype group like Group-B but with more safety restrictions.... right?
I think the WRC ill be more softer than this... they need small cars, and wide axles, (nex wrc now) plenty of power without any aids, just pure simple skill....
Rik1pk 1 year ago
@Rik1pk You're right. The FIA should reactivate the B-Group. thanks once again rallying to have grown very fans. However, the question of safety is only debatable issue. In the class S1600 also are accidents. Currently, we have much better opportunities for the construction of fences safety and security systems than 25years ago. FIA F1 puts on because there is a $ $.
piotrek42gv 1 year ago
@Rik1pk WRC dies needed Resurrection B-Group. And amazing drivers;) as Henri Toivonen, Walter Röhrl, Juha Kankkunen, Hannu Mikkola and many others. Interesting as advised by the WRC drivers in cars with the power of 600PS without electronic systems.
piotrek42gv 1 year ago
@piotrek42gv Just driving a car without ABS is dificult on hard breaking points, imagine 600 hp without any traction control and ESP and ABS. That's why that drivers are so so talented. I think the results of Motorsport should depend on the skills of the drivers, not on the machine. Sofisticated cars with no driving aids what so ever it's what i define pure and real motorsport...
Rik1pk 1 year ago
@piotrek42gv For the reviews i had the oportunity to see and read about rally car's from 2000 until now, all the journalist said it was very easy to drive, more easy than a normal road car :S. And they compared to the 90's cars and that cars where mechanical and hard to control, so imagine group B.
If you look at this last seasons, Loeb has 7 titles because i doesn't have strong oponents or cars :S.
A rally with two teams :S
Rik1pk 1 year ago
@piotrek42gv - You are absolutely right. And i hate the noise restrictions that are placed on the current cars.
JFBDriverTraining 9 months ago
@Rik1pk - you can't compare Citroen's record to that of Lancia. Today's rallies are so short with no endurance. Audi would have won the World Championship for manufacturers in 1981 and 1983 if the rallies back then would have been as short as they are today because retirements usually came AFTER the length of current events would have already finished by 100's of miles!
JFBDriverTraining 9 months ago
@JFBDriverTraining yes i know you're right. When i was a child I remember the days of Colin Macrae, Richard Burns, Carlos Sainz, Tommi makinen and etc, they just had problems after problems with the cars. So i just want to imagine the insane Group B Era...
After the big stumble with the BX, Citroen is going in the right way, so as Ford, i think. The VW group with the Polo it will be awsome and very competetive. I don't like the new huge, and tall "Mini" but in Prodrive factory they are genius!
Rik1pk 9 months ago
@JFBDriverTraining - and 1985 might also have been a different story for Audi because Walter Rohrl would easily have won in Portugal (he hit trouble on the final night) and Hannu Mikkola would have won the RAC rally (he retired on stage 22 whilst leading. But as today's rally GB only has about 17 stages, and most of them are repeated over and over again, you get my point).
JFBDriverTraining 9 months ago
@piotrek42gv lol, but audi was first...
DrBrainsurferCH 5 months ago
@piotrek42gv your King dies 1986 ... So Röhrl was and still is King
Quattroowner 2 months ago
@Quattroowner King died as a king, and thy king is a normal old man.
piotrek42gv 2 months ago
@piotrek42gv He is definitly not a normal old man ... But you are surly a stupid man ...
Quattroowner 2 months ago 4
A legendary pilot and a legendary car!! Very nice!!
Thanks!!
EmersonMeyer33 1 year ago
just looks like hes out for a sunday drive
basilbrush156 1 year ago
Great video!!!! Tnx!!!
Boizita 1 year ago
Guida stile scandinava , spettacolare
paolohf83 1 year ago
group b? and no helmets intense
TheRallycrossKing 1 year ago
@TheRallycrossKing
Since Röhrl is talking very much at the beginning of the video while driving I guess it's the pre-run of the stage where he gives his co-pilot the information about the corners (speed, angle i.e.) which the co-pilot writes down. This pre-run is normally not in full race-speed so probably no helmet is required ^^
polaxis84 1 year ago 13
@polaxis84 Recce :)
dx6789 1 year ago
@polaxis84 o dang he was still haulin :P
TheRallycrossKing 1 year ago