NY TIMES OUTS AMPTP: SAG CONTRACT FACTS

[SAGDEAL]

Actual breakdown 4/22/10 for iPad commercial:

Union Status SAG

Conflicts None

Run(Usage) Web & New Media including viral, iPhone & iPad

Rate *$88 for 10 hour day (min. wage) + $10 buyout for 1 year

[SAGDEAL]

Internet TV will be in your home shortly according to the LA TIMES (12/06/09) and the current SAG contract has virtually no residuals for actors as programs will be rerun in perpetuity.

Search LA TIMES for recent article:

"FCC pushes for Internet access on your TV" Los Angeles Times 12/6/09

[SAGDEAL]

@SAGDEAL CORRECTION: the date of this article is 12/6/2010

[RevelationJoeTess]

In a SAG Board meeting tonight, David White "informed" the room that he pretty much has no plan of action for the future, and is doing nothing to achieve for the members what forcing this contract through was "supposed to" gain. And he took about 800 words to say nothing, as well, leaving the entire room baffled as to what his response actually was. So that's where we're at now folks-YEAH! a 3 percent (standard gain) increase for the loss of the control of your image & likeness in perpetuity!ya!

[DrChebutykin]

I watched the first episode of NURSE JACKIE here on YouTube, last night.

For free.

Sorry, Edie. I honestly hope you get paid from ShoTime distributing your show here for nothin.

[1SECRETBILLY]

If we vote this contract in the newspaper boy will be able to cash our paychecks.There is no good time to strike but you have to have a veiled threat otherwise where is the leverage.The onl;y thing worse than strike is a contract that you can't live with.

[joanystar]

AMEN!!!  VOTE NOOOO!!!

[girlygirlindahood]

How do you know when a

SAG Vote Yes member is about to say something smart?

When they start the sentence with "something a VOTE NO SAG member says!"

LOL ... Ha, ha, ha!

[SAGDEAL]

See new video at SAGDEAL channel highlighting how this contract ELIMINATES SAG Background Performers from some network-produced episodics.

[1SECRETBILLY]

Please don't be easy SAG.We don't need a SUNRISE clause to see that if producers are paid we should be too.Vote no Now!!

[RevelationJoeTess]

Yes, Actors, please get informed! The LA Contract info meeting got pretty heated--overwhelming majority VOTING NO. The Elderly Members of SAG virtually thrown out like garbage w/ this Contract, & they said "some things are necessary". So the RICHEST Members can get their pay increases RIGHT NOW, they think it's acceptable to take the last pennies of income the Elderly SAG Members need to FEED THEMSELVES. Deplorable. VOTE No to protect your FUTURE. They are trying to TRICK you out of it.

[SAGDEAL]

Vote NO- this contract ELIMINATES residuals.

73% of the Hollywood Board voted NOT to recommend this contract to the membership.

Attend SAG informational meetings. Even David White in LA meeting called the contract "Crap".

NEW YORK MEETING: Monday, June 1, 2009

6:00 p.m. 8:00 p.m.

Directors Guild of America

110 West 57th Street

(between 6th & 7th Aves.)

New York, NY 10019

[RevelationJoeTess]

Listen to the good Doctor below--he's absolutely right. This is the THIRD time the AMPTP has tried to do the SAME thing regarding new media to SAG Members--the THIRD time. The Theatrical Contract CAN be negotiated fairly and without a Strike, the first step is to VOTE NO and force these greedy mofos back to the bargaining table treating us like human beings who are of value, not like a bunch of idiots. We hold the cards now, VOTE NO. The Contract is a TRICK like twice before. Protect your future

[joanystar]

THAT'S RIGHT We MUST get a NO vote to have some bargaining power!!!

[DrChebutykin]

We are extremely pleased to report the best non-holiday quarter revenue and earnings in our history, said Peter Oppenheimer, Apples CFO, in announcing the companys March quarter financial results. In its fiscal 2009 second quarter, Apple posted revenue of $8.16 billion and a net quarterly profit of $1.21 billion, or $1.33 per diluted share. Gross margin was 36.4 percent, up from 32.9 percent in the year-ago quarter."

yeah. how's that "bad economy" lie going?

[RevelationJoeTess]

SAG Members--don't be afraid to VOTE when your ballot comes. Don't let people from other unions threaten or intimidate you. This is YOUR CAREER AND YOUR LIFE. ALL WE HAVE TO SELL IN THE WORLD AS ACTORS IS OUR IMAGE, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO STEAL THAT FROM US FOR FREE. They won't go back later and 're-evaluate' anything--they didn't the LAST TWO TIMES THEY LIED TO US BEFORE. We will be stuck with this contract for good. There is no "later". You ARE important. You have rights. VOTE NO and show them

[RevelationJoeTess]

So, actors should sacrifice their lives and their futures to put in place a contract that they will be stuck with forever because you were too stupid to save any money and bought a house that you couldn't afford. Actors' tax money is paying for government bailouts of people like you who bought things they couldn't afford. You have a job because of actors. Instead of yelling at the AMPTP, the real villain who is holding up all production out of greed, you attack working folks. You are an A SS.

[RevelationJoeTess]

Hi guys. Well, we fought hard to get a chance to VOTE--here it is. Ask yourself only this--If you are NOT a Celebrity who regularly negotiates your deals well above Scale and glides easily from job to job, YOU MUST VOTE 'NO' ON THIS CONTRACT TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FUTURE. FAMOUS & WEALTHY people are pushing SAG to accept this Contract

[RevelationJoeTess]

AT THE EXPENSE OF ALL OF US, the typical average Member. They want to "get back to work" RIGHT AWAY, making more money and getting richer and richer, AT OUR EXPENSE. They don't care that this Contract means that we won't be able to feed ourselves and our families. They don't care that we have paid into this Union for twenty, forty, fifty years to protect us--they only care about getting RICHER RIGHT NOW. WE ARE NOT THE ONES HOLDING UP PRODUCTION--IT'S THE PRODUCERS. WE ARE NOT THE ONES

[RevelationJoeTess]

feed ourselves and our families. They don't care that we have paid into this Union for twenty, forty, fifty years to protect us--they only care about getting RICHER RIGHT NOW. WE ARE NOT THE ONES HOLDING UP PRODUCTION--IT'S THE PRODUCERS. WE ARE NOT THE ONES CHOOSING TO 'MOVE OVER' TO A NEW MODEL--IT'S THE PRODUCERS--TO MAKE MORE MONEY, AT OUR EXPENSE. WHY WOULD THEY BE MOVING OVER PRODUCT TO THE INTERNET IF THERE WEREN'T BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BE MADE? OUR LIVES AND CAREERS ARE THE ONLY THING

[RevelationJoeTess]

BEING SACRIFICED RIGHT NOW--FOR GREED. THE RICH TO GET RICHER, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE SMALLEST PERSON ON THE TOTEM POLE. They are saying that "because the Economy is bad right now" that WE SHOULD SACRIFICE OUR FUTURES--WHEN THEY ARE CAUSING THIS! They are the ONLY ONES making a PROFIT in a hurting Economy, and they EVEN WANT THE PENNIES THAT WE NEED TO SURVIVE! They say "they are losing money to the cable markets"--THEY OWN THE CABLE MARKETS! IT'S A SCAM! Our Union fought hard in the Fifties

[RevelationJoeTess]

to setup this business model, where WE ARE COMPENSATED FOR USE AND RE-USE OF OUR IMAGE, WHICH IS ALL WE HAVE TO SELL. Now they want to take that from us practically FOR FREE.  ALL WE HAVE TO SELL IN THE WORLD FREE. Half of our own BOARD has been corrupted by GREED--that's why we are in this mess. You don't push through a Contract that will only benefit the WEALTHIEST members of a Union, and destroy the careers livelihoods of the REST. WE ARE THE MAJORITY OF THIS UNION--NOT THE GREEDY TOP

[RevelationJoeTess]

PERCENTILE. We are asking for PEANUTS in the grand-scheme of this and WE ARE BEING BLAMED for "holding up work". PEANUTS. They want to buy a bigger yacht and mansion, WHEN IT WILL MEAN THE END OF OUR CAREERS. WE have the same RIGHTS in America as the RICHEST. This contract will be used as the template for ALL future negotiations in new media. We can't make another mistake like we did when VHS was "new". THIS CAN BE NEGOTIATED FAIRLY WITHOUT A STRIKE. EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT TO BE AN ACTOR. VOTE NO

[RevelationJoeTess]

This disgusting person below is part of the reason all of this is such a mess--the motherfu&@ers who think they have the right to shoot off their FUC%$ING STUPID MOUTHS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. YOU SIT IN YOUR FUC%ING LIVING ROOM AND SOUND OFF ON OTHER PEOPLES' LIVES! IT'S NOT YOUR CONTRACT! You have a JOB because of actors. I'm sure you're angry every time you see some actor with more money than you. You want to BLAME someone and you're too stupid to know where to look.

[RevelationJoeTess]

And, by the way douche--the deal is NOT done. We have yet to cast our votes. The Members. A Mighty Mighty Union of 122,000 people have yet to be heard. We've been FIGHTING for the chance to VOTE for months. Get your facts straight you F***ing MORON. Sympathy and respect? Wow. You're the one that thinks that I SHOULD GO WORK FOR FREE SO YOU'RE FUC**ING DUMB ASS CAN GET BACK TO WORK. SMART. YOU'RE NOT EXACTLY A BRAIN SURGEON.

[jpgalli]

the deal is done and you barely got any more than you would have before the hold out except a complete loss of sympathy and respect from the rest of WORKING hollywood. SAG needs to go away, the fact that non working actors,m back ground, and stand ins can shut down an entire industry is appalling. Plenty of people lost homes and got into huge amounts of debt for you morons to hold out and get nothing.

[girlygirlindahood]

jpgalli -- you are a total MORON. Shut up. You know nothing of the plight of an actor. You know nothing about why actors get paid and need residuals. No one is respecting your position, and fact is, the WGA strike caused more damage than SAG's negotiating ever did. So, catch a clue, and direct your anger where it belongs. Toward your mother!

[jpgalli]

hahahahaha, the plight of an actor. you are the morons who chose that as a profession. it is not our fault that you dont work. if you were a working actor you would know how much SAGs negotiating hurt the industry, especially in times like this. You are so clueless, but to be honest I dont expect much from a non working actor. IT IS FACT THAT THE NEGOTIATIONS COST PEOPLE JOBS AND MONEY WHEN PEOPLE NEED IT THE MOST YOU DUMB B* YOU DUMB F*s COULDNT WAIT 3 YEARS YOU SELFISH C

[girlygirlindahood]

Hmmm... funny, I am a working actor. You sound like a jealous BTL hater. If you were good at what you do, you'd be called by your union to work ... wouldn't you? There ARE some people working, me included ... and you??? Out of work simply b/c you aren't cream of the crop?

Probably, can't blame anyone but yourself dude! Look in the mirror.

[jpgalli]

Thanks but i have been working, however work in general has slowed to a trickle since films couldn't be insured till the deal was struck. Hater? Wow you sound really intelligent, which explains why you are an actor.

[jpgalli]

from da hood explains everything.

[girlygirlindahood]

REMEMBER: NO RESIDUALS = THE END OF ACTING CAREER AS YOU KNOW IT RANK AND FILE

VOTE YES on a strike - rank and file are fed up. Producers are liars - never revisited DVD issue, won't revisit new media residual issue.

4/20/09: Rosenberg told Daily Variety that he'll strongly oppose ratification, particularly because it doesn't guarantee SAG jurisdiction and residuals on some new-media projects.

[jpgalli]

New York Times might as well be the national enquirer. Actors are not artists they are morons in wardrobe. Thanks for destroying the film industry and destroying lives. But i guess if you were smart you wouldnt be actors in the first place.

[girlygirlindahood]

To jpgali Thanks for such an unintelligent comment. Today's actors are fighting for their rights! Hard-won rights won by actors before (Cagney, Bogart, etc.)

Upholding Global Rule One

which is SAG's Constitution & Bylaws states "No member shall work as a performer or make an agreement to work as a performer for any producer who has not executed a basic minimum agreement with the Guild which is in full force and effect." - currently being dismantled by the producers it's SAG genocide!

[girlygirlindahood]

To jpgalli: Jealous? I bet you are!! In fact, I sense a real deep envy there boy!! Oh Yeah!!

[boyd1]

The truth is only half out there.

Ask any SAG member what they might make for 1 days work as a featured character on a TV show.

Ask any venerable SAG senior with a hefty feature background what they might make as a featured star on a weekly basis.

Do you think they will tell you?

SAG lost there momentum round about when this video was first posted if not sooner.

SAG says this is whats best for the industry, when in reality they could give a good god damn about the crafts.

Get back to work.

[bluejava]

Vote NO on a strike and DEMAND that a productive negotiating process begins immediately.

[Memphismom]

You are a GENIUS!!!! Why can't people see this has been their plan all along???? THANK-YOU for putting in easy to understand words. I am re-posting this and putting it on Face Book.

[iTwinkletv]

That article is over a year and a half old. This isn't breaking news.

[beautyqueenincal]

Yes, but how many people read it. That's the point!

[girlygirlindahood]

So? Still holds true, many pilots are AFTRA now NOT because SAG can't negotiate, b/c AFTRA's residuals are very low and the producers LOVE that! If you're not in the biz, you wouldn't know. AFTRA back-stabbed SAG, and are the producers sweetheart right now, until they start demanding what is right too. You'll see.

[AvisWrentmore]

Right On;) I'm forwarding your youtube to all my Actor Friends;) Way to Go on getting the message out there to VOTE YES for the Strike