i just love it when religious preachers get all boo-hooey when they are called on their abuse expecting people to be nice and how unfair it it when others highlight it...when their sermon is self-righteous and are the FIRST ONES to cast the first stone and encourage their congregation to all throw stones too. religion = hypocrisy
that is religion ALLLL the way...uses the bible/god/jesus to justify its behaviour/abuse on others...sexual abuse/wars/hate/burning people who dont believe in what they believe in, etc GROSS
When everyone stands before ALMIGHTY GOD on Judgment Day, we will all find out what the truth is and what GOD accepts and doesn't accept. JEHOVAH and JESUS CHRIST are the final authority. Read Romans 1.
@Americanjazzlady And a woman with short hair or a man with long hair is an abomination. Or growing two different crops in the same field is an abomination, eating shellfish is an abomination and wearing clothes made from two different fabrics is an abomination... Need I go on?
Anyone who claims to be a preacher of the gospel and a believer in Jesus Christ is deceived. Period.
@Americanjazzlady Well, the Bible, 1 Corinthians 11:6 tells us thus: "...it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head." So, since I guess you are a woman, do you have long hair? If not, you are a disgrace to God. If you do have long hair, do you have it covered? If not, you are a disgrace to God.
You need to sit down and read the Bible abit more carefully before you go out and judge anyone else of being deceived.
@Americanjazzlady My problem is that you are just as big a hypocrite as these gay preachers, and you seem to think you can assume some sort of moral high-ground where you can stand and lecture others on how to live their lives.
It is more or less impossible to live by the bible in this day, and anyone who claims to be a 'true' Christian is by definition a liar and a hypocrite, so I don't understand why you are singling out gays as any worse than all the rest?
@Americanjazzlady Do you rail against Christians who enjoy shellfish once in a while too, or Christian women who say enough is enough, and divorce their abusive husbands, or lets say you see your minister putting the finishing touches on his new porch, on a Sunday? All have committed crimes against God, so you in your divine purity should be the first to 'throw the first stone' against all of these people.
You seem to be one of the biggest 'accusing spirits' in this thread, just so you know.
@Superslemmet FYI...I'm NOT A HYPOCRITE nor am I a dike. I AM HETEROSEXUAL AND I LIKE MEN AND EAT SHELLFISH. I am divorced. ARE YOU ON DRUGS? YOU are not a Christian.
I supported and loved Bishop Eddie Long, but believe that he paid off those men because he is guilty of what they accused him of. The Blood of Jesus is powerful and can wash him clean and restore him. Homosexuality and lesbianism is an abomination in the eyes of GOD. TRUTH hurts, huh? BUG OFF!
@Americanjazzlady Typical. I present you with your own hypocrisy then instead of saying, "Okay. I'll own that because I have integrity & you hit me with my own dogma.", you come up with a satan blast. Pathetic. You're batshit.
@Americanjazzlady There is a word for you too, and I can say it. Delusional. Instead of covering your sins with the blood of jesus, why don't just just grown up and take responsibility for your own action? Stop being a bad person.
And in what way does your need to hide behind a fairytale give you any right to condemn gay people as 'sinners'? It's just you being an a**hole and when challenged, you hide being 'mental disorder'/'religious conviction' because you can't defend your horrible views.
The rectum and anal canal are passageways for feces and it's loaded with bacteria. It saddens me that people argue about homosexuality when it is such a disgusting act in the first place.
@GooferCheese Yeah, like 90% of heteros don't occasionally engage in anal sex too..including a lot of hetero men that like their women to sodomize them or like to sodomize their women. You're full of shit (pun intended.)
how could a preacher tell other people how to live ..lash out against wrong doing and then be doing something like that.. its not like he stole a candy from a baby..he wa doing satan work...and getting paid for it...taking people hard earned money and them balling young homosexual men...while children right there in america are hungry...GOD dont like ugly EDDIE LONG STOKE..
All things of the flesh are against the worship of God, which "believers" are commanded to do in the spirit. Fornication, deceit, homosexuality, theology, are all things of the flesh and, YES are sin. It's hypocritical and ridiculous when "ministers" try and "theologize" what Christ ministry was all about. Christ came to do his His FATHER will. To glorify HIS FATHER. What is the FATHER will? Is sin of any kind HIS will?
these gay guys are out for Bishop Eddie's head! jajajajajajaja strange thing is that most of the vocal ones are not the kind of people that most would listen to, yet Eddie long's strong postion has brought them out the wood work
Oral sodomy? Is that like rimming with tongue penetration? Once again the loudest homophobe turns out to be a closeted homosexual or bisexual committed to destroying the rights and the lives of others through the leverage of the control mechanism called Religion. And he's doing it to cover up for his own desires which he publically condemns. Let this be a lesson, if your pastor or priest spouts off against gay rights leave the church because he's most likely throwing stones from his closet.
Ted Haggard is the same b s-er he was when it was found out he had sex with a male - and was kicked out of his church. He is still in that "denial pocketbook" and will never be able to come to terms about the truth of his situation on this planet. I can't stand him.
@blanketed I agree and do you know why Ted Haggard is still pushing position of denial? It's because of the money, Ted's lifestyle is based on his ability to sell religion and he's in denial to protect his place in the preaching profession. Money is the real God is this world and Ted sold his soul to it the minute he turned his little church into a multimillion dollar corporate empire. He has learned nothing and is a stain on the fabric of humanity.
23 minutes ago Im just going to say this. If an individual considers themself a Christian or "saved" they cant live out a homosexual lifestyle & still be a true "saints" of God. Also, to address what ppl are calling or try to protray as the Church; all of these leaders arent teaching the unadulted truth. If so,we would all belief & profess the same thing, but we dont. There is only One Lord, One Faith, & One Baptism that is considered right (Eph 4:5).
@ojibwayjayceon You will end up where all sinners who have not accepted Yahsh'ah Hamash'ah as their Lord and Saviour end up.
If you acknowledge that Yahsh'ah came as God in a mans body (legal way into this world) to bare your sins and break the yoke of death, acknowledge you're a sinner (10 commandments) repent (turn from sin) asking the Lord to forgive you for your sins invite Him to be your Lord and Saviour and live a life pleasing to YAH (read the Bible), You will escape the pits of hell.
@mykinfoknew Really? So all Muslims are going to hell? That sux. I happen to know alot of them with good hearts. it is too bad to hear they they will all burn in hell. Ok you have me sold. I'm ready to follow the dead flying zombie jew all the way to heaven.
@mykinfoknew Jesus rose again 3 days later. Don't tell me you never seen a zombie movie.In zombie movies that is what the dead do, rise again. Then he flies up to heaven. That is where i get the flying part. I think you should read my profile before you send me to hell there great judge. I never rehearse it takes the fun out of things.
@mykinfoknew Any one who rises from the dead is a zombie to me. Another fool that does not expand their mind! If you attach you mind to any ideology you are going to be on a road.That road may or may not lead you in a good direction.When when you star yelling or ranting that other people have to follow your lead or the world is going to end and the Christians are going to be taken away into heaven i know you're full of shit.Scared lonely sad people lock onto that non-sense so they feel they
are a part of something.That is what it is it preys on people who's lives fuckin suck.It all ducks! it not like you shit is cool and my shits not, like fuckin yoga is the answer or mushrooms are the answer. There are just questions.Until we are honest about that we are never going to evolve.
@ojibwayjayceon You're an idiot. You came to me asking what you had to do to get to heaven. I didn't rant to NE one. I don't care which god or religion u wanna follow. That's your perogative. You just hope you know the full historical facts around your religions origins to know whether you're faith will get you to "heaven."
I haven't lied about anything.
You say I think my faith is better, better than what?
@mykinfoknew "Zombies" whom ever stated that does not have a "full" spiritual led understanding of what "resurrection" is. And this is why Christ spoke in parables because many will not receive the Ruach to be able to understand the true spiritual message and not the fleshly/worldly one
The Church of Ourselves", we say and do as we feel and we expect to make what God says fit into our ideas and not be obedient to what God says because it is too hard for us to follow-it is too much a burden. Give me a break! The least a person can do is be honest with self.
I want to do what I do because doing me is all that matters right now-
then when its time for God to do what he does then that is that! No body elses business but to do what their relationship with God tells them-the end!
The problem we have in this society is weak men! people make commments on everythign as if they are some kind of authority but they themselves are soft. You see this is the problem, when your involved in a preverted religion like "Christianity" this stuff happens! Christianity is nothign more than a religion birth out of Roman. There is a spirit linked to christians! It's the biggest false religion on this earth and that is the truth! So personal opinions do not matter you had better repent!
First of all. That openly gay pastor bullshit is foolishness. Homosexuality is an abomination. A minister is supposed to be ordained. Don't let mankind convince you that God is okay with ordaining an abomination. That's some more of man's bullshit.
@BrothaMinister I understand where you are coming from (having grown up in the church for 25 yrs), however, he's right. The same text says that women can't be preachers, and you can't wear poly-blends, and people should be killed for adultery... but we ignore of those. Why is that?
@boicharmer so then your saying its ok to be gay.. and secondly.. i dont see where paul said woman shouldnt be teaching or asurping authority in same context as wearing poly blends. i dont see where in ROMANS 1 where it talks about homosexual going to be turned over to reprobate mind and then say its ok. i dont see in 1 cor 6 where it says DONT BE DECIEVED these (homosexuals) will NOT enter the kingdom of heaven. the penalty of stoning was taking away. BUT WRATH OF GOD WILL COME NEXT. REPENT
@BrothaMinister I was specifically speaking of the text in Lev or does that not matter nemor? Also when quotin a script quote all of it. In Rom it was talkin bout a certain lifestyle, it says in v28 "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge," they left God all together. I believe thats what Romans was talking about b/c it goes on to say 29 "Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication..." Basically living a hedonistic lifestyle, which Pastor Troy isn't unlike some St
@BrothaMinister I understand that, we've all been taught this same way of thinking... but I cannot believe that God will send someone to hell that has devoted their life to bringing ppl to Christ. God is a just God and its definitely a possibility that all homosexuals wont make it to heaven but I also think it's a possibility that they will. Esp since Rev 20:12&13 says we will be judge by our works. I dont pretend to know all the answers but I'd rather give people hope then condemn them to hell.
@boicharmer Just check out the two so-called men who Cooper is interviewing. They both are sad and sorry! both have women spirits! And to think you folks are still watching these nasty men. I keep telling you folks "Christianity" is a big LIE! Look at these weak sorry men! The world does not love the so called church! It's ratings they are after.
@boicharmer we will be judged by our works of righteousness.. and righteousness is practicing the law.... deut 6:25 and it will be our righteousness if we observe to do all of this law YHWH our father has commanded us.. 1 john 3:7 be not deceived he who practices righteousness is righteous just as He(the messiah) is righteous..
@boicharmer giving them false hope is worse. you will be judged yourself for not just sticking to the scriptures and allowing the scriptures to do as they are mean to do.. convinct convince and convert. you better stick with scripture and dont go by what you or even i think. all that matters is what the SCRIPTURE SAYS.
@BrothaMinister My only problem with that is if we get to the end and we find out all these people that we told are going to hell could have made it to heaven if someone just took the time to give them hope. I know you're response will be "that wont happen" but since neither you or I are God and since we've never been to the end we can't say that 100%. "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
@boicharmer your right none of us are God. BUT HIS WORD SAYS it... see thats the point. we are just messengers.. GOD CANT LIE.. if his word said that effeminate WILL NOT ENTER INTO KINGDOM then they wont. its that simple.. what you dont understand is if YOUR DONT STAND FOR TRUTH and help people remain in DECEPTION your going to be held accountable for not telling the truth and for giving them false hope. yes a homosexual can get SAVED if he or she REPENTS AND RENOUNCES THE LIFTESTYLE..
Lo, this is the man that made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness. Psalms 52 : 7
Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
I won't say that This guy was one of the most influential ministers in the country. I'm sure that most of the people, when this story broke, didn't even know who this guy was. I know that must people that I've spoken to about this didn't know who the fuck he was.
Pastor Ted I commend u!!! The gay preacher is tryin to say that if u struggle wit an issue then u shuldnt preach the truth abt it.. Like saying if u have kids and ur a crackhead that u shuldnt tell ur kids its wrong to smoke crack!!! Christ last command was for us to walk in love! We r not doing that by trying to get rich by tearing one another down... God bless u Bishop Long!
The worst thing is not that Haggard and Long are hypocrites but that things they claim are wrong. Religion is not the same thing as morality. Religious is not the same as moral.
this guy, pastor troy, is the one who is the hypocrite, as well as the slanderer of God's word. he calls himself a servant of God but he calls the old testament statutes, principles and moral standards of God "oppressive"? HOW DARE HIM? he's changing the word to fit his own openly homosexual lifestyle. the bible clearly says that a person who adds to or takes from the WORD is cursed. the bible is clear on it's stance against homosexuality. so either you preach the bible as is, or you don't...
2...you don't compromise God's word in order to justify your own vices, nor do you twist it to conform to the world's standards. troy is guilty of this. and to anyone who reads this message, please don't take it as my being homophobic or hating gay people. i am not, and i don't. believers are called to reach out to and to love, and to draw ALL PEOPLE to God. gays included. i hate blatant hypocrisy. i'd say the same thing about a politician who out of one side of his mouth claims to be an....
3...advocate of civil and human rights, but out of the other side of his mouth tries to justify denying or violating people's civil and human rights. how are you going to claim to preach the Gospel of Jesus and call His Father's law 'oppressive'? either you stand 100% or you are a fraud. i don't trust eddie long or any televangelist, but as far as i'm concerned, he's innocent until proven guilty. and if he's guilty, he should pay the price.
@revlooshin SAME GOES FOR HAGGARD AND LONG. Makes no damn difference because they did their dirt in the dark and Pastor Troy is open and honest. Wake up!
@odessyrcr589 my argument is not that hidden homosexuality is somehow better than open homosexuality. read my comment again. i'm saying that the bible is clear on it's stance against ALL homosexuality, and if you are going to profess to represent God you HAVE TO represent Him 100%. you can't change His Word to permit your gay lifestyle if His Word prohibits the gay lifestyle. that means pastor troy has the power to veto the God of the universe. NO WAY!!! Troy is openly rebellious against GOD!!
Why isn't Anthony Boyd, Maurice Robinson's partner in crime talking and telling why they decided to steal from the church? B J Bernstein is trying to keep Maurice Robinson out of jail by trying to ruin the reputation of Bishop Long and New Birth in the process. B J Bernstein is a criminal defense attorney and civil law suit attorney and a former prosecutor. An interesting background. She knows how it works and she is doing her best to work the system,but Anthony Boyd is not on board
Why isn't Anthony Boyd, Maurice Robinson's partner in crime talking and telling why they decided to steal from the church? B J Bernstein is trying to keep Maurice Robinson out of jail by trying to ruin the reputation of Bishop Long and New Birth in the process. B J Bernstein is a criminal defense attorney and civil law suit attorney and a former prosecutor. An interesting background. She knows how it works and she is doing her best to work the system,but Anthony Boyd is not on board it seems
Why isn't Anthony Boyd, Maurice Robinson's partner in crime talking and telling why they decided to steal from the church? B J Bernstein is trying to keep Maurice Robinson out of jail by trying to ruin the reputation of Bishop Long and New Birth in the process. B J Bernstein is a criminal defense attorney and civil law suit attorney and a former prosecutor. An interesting background. She knows how it works and she is doing her best to work the system,but Anthony Boyd is not on board it seems
Check out the hands of the man in the leaked pictures. He has on no rings. If you look at all the images of Bishop Long, you can clearly see that he wears his wedding ring and his New Birth Crescent ring. Also, Bishop Long is shorter and of fuller statute than the man in the picture. Pay attention to details.! Also, when is the court date of Maurice Robinson regarding the buglery charges he faces? The is no date showing when the alleged pictures where texted.
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
@preachersaredumb I do not mean any disrespect but you obviously have never seen the scriptures in the original Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek, the translations say slave but the actual Hebrew word that is used is ebed which means servant, doer or tiller and it was if you read all of the chapter illegal for anyone to mistreat their servants and it was also law that after a certain amount of years those which were in servitude were no longer obligated under the contract to which they were paid.
@preachersaredumb where have you ever known that if someone kills a slave that person was punished? never however if you harm an employee the law will prosecute. also try and read all the passages and then look at Ex 21.26-27
"If a man hits a manservant or maidservant in the eye and destroys it, he must let the servant go free to compensate for the eye. And if he knocks out the tooth of a manservant or maidservant, he must let the servant go free to compensate for the tooth.
The real problem is the Black family unit and community needs to fear to except everyone for who they are and teach tolerance and love. That should make a major difference in this kind of behavior. The shame and fear that is in the Black community makes this behavior more likely to happen.
Both pastors are not walking in truth.
SassySoulja4 4 months ago
".... and everybody knows it dangerous to enter an exit..."
What a buffoon. He's so worried about the act of sex that he's confusing it with the practice of love.
upabittoolate 7 months ago in playlist Eddie Long
i rest my case: "you cant use religion to terronize others" by Ted Haggard (Preacher who paid to sex with male prostitutes)
ilindah 7 months ago
i just love it when religious preachers get all boo-hooey when they are called on their abuse expecting people to be nice and how unfair it it when others highlight it...when their sermon is self-righteous and are the FIRST ONES to cast the first stone and encourage their congregation to all throw stones too. religion = hypocrisy
ilindah 7 months ago
that is religion ALLLL the way...uses the bible/god/jesus to justify its behaviour/abuse on others...sexual abuse/wars/hate/burning people who dont believe in what they believe in, etc GROSS
ilindah 7 months ago
WTF? Is Americanjazzlady trying to do an excorcism on youtube?
AManOfHope 7 months ago
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Americanjazzlady 7 months ago
if you were to look at a list of the world's problems...religion/myth is the cause of probably 80% of them.
the "I have the right answer to things unanswerable" delusion of religious followers is a force for strife, wars, and all around hate.
rmutt4 8 months ago
When everyone stands before ALMIGHTY GOD on Judgment Day, we will all find out what the truth is and what GOD accepts and doesn't accept. JEHOVAH and JESUS CHRIST are the final authority. Read Romans 1.
Americanjazzlady 8 months ago
Black people fully assimilated by introducing the white man's religion..forcing them to abandon their African ways. Weak race.
tkathryyn 8 months ago
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tkathryyn 8 months ago
Ted Haggard is a phony, a liar, and should be ashamed of himself.
derekllp23 8 months ago
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Americanjazzlady 10 months ago
@Americanjazzlady And a woman with short hair or a man with long hair is an abomination. Or growing two different crops in the same field is an abomination, eating shellfish is an abomination and wearing clothes made from two different fabrics is an abomination... Need I go on?
Anyone who claims to be a preacher of the gospel and a believer in Jesus Christ is deceived. Period.
Superslemmet 8 months ago
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Americanjazzlady 8 months ago
@Americanjazzlady Well, the Bible, 1 Corinthians 11:6 tells us thus: "...it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head." So, since I guess you are a woman, do you have long hair? If not, you are a disgrace to God. If you do have long hair, do you have it covered? If not, you are a disgrace to God.
You need to sit down and read the Bible abit more carefully before you go out and judge anyone else of being deceived.
Superslemmet 8 months ago
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Americanjazzlady 8 months ago
@Americanjazzlady My problem is that you are just as big a hypocrite as these gay preachers, and you seem to think you can assume some sort of moral high-ground where you can stand and lecture others on how to live their lives.
It is more or less impossible to live by the bible in this day, and anyone who claims to be a 'true' Christian is by definition a liar and a hypocrite, so I don't understand why you are singling out gays as any worse than all the rest?
Superslemmet 8 months ago
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Americanjazzlady 8 months ago
@Americanjazzlady Do you rail against Christians who enjoy shellfish once in a while too, or Christian women who say enough is enough, and divorce their abusive husbands, or lets say you see your minister putting the finishing touches on his new porch, on a Sunday? All have committed crimes against God, so you in your divine purity should be the first to 'throw the first stone' against all of these people.
You seem to be one of the biggest 'accusing spirits' in this thread, just so you know.
Superslemmet 8 months ago
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Americanjazzlady 8 months ago
@Superslemmet FYI...I'm NOT A HYPOCRITE nor am I a dike. I AM HETEROSEXUAL AND I LIKE MEN AND EAT SHELLFISH. I am divorced. ARE YOU ON DRUGS? YOU are not a Christian.
I supported and loved Bishop Eddie Long, but believe that he paid off those men because he is guilty of what they accused him of. The Blood of Jesus is powerful and can wash him clean and restore him. Homosexuality and lesbianism is an abomination in the eyes of GOD. TRUTH hurts, huh? BUG OFF!
Americanjazzlady 8 months ago
@Americanjazzlady Divorce is grounds for stoning. That would probably hurt too. You're batshit.
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Americanjazzlady 7 months ago
@Americanjazzlady Typical. I present you with your own hypocrisy then instead of saying, "Okay. I'll own that because I have integrity & you hit me with my own dogma.", you come up with a satan blast. Pathetic. You're batshit.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
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Americanjazzlady 7 months ago
@Americanjazzlady You are a moron.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
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Americanjazzlady 7 months ago
@Americanjazzlady You are a moron.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
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Americanjazzlady 7 months ago
@Americanjazzlady There is a word for you too, and I can say it. Delusional. Instead of covering your sins with the blood of jesus, why don't just just grown up and take responsibility for your own action? Stop being a bad person.
And in what way does your need to hide behind a fairytale give you any right to condemn gay people as 'sinners'? It's just you being an a**hole and when challenged, you hide being 'mental disorder'/'religious conviction' because you can't defend your horrible views.
Superslemmet 6 months ago
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Americanjazzlady 7 months ago
Religion is creepy, spooky and deluded because it is glorified superstition.
Brahmsfourth 1 year ago
Religion kills.
Richardgwm 1 year ago
@Richardgwm it might fuck u first too!
LAWAGO 1 year ago
The rectum and anal canal are passageways for feces and it's loaded with bacteria. It saddens me that people argue about homosexuality when it is such a disgusting act in the first place.
GooferCheese 1 year ago
@GooferCheese Yeah, like 90% of heteros don't occasionally engage in anal sex too..including a lot of hetero men that like their women to sodomize them or like to sodomize their women. You're full of shit (pun intended.)
james1200 1 year ago
@GooferCheese homosexuality is in you mind/brain + it is a sexual desire not an act.
not all homosexuals do those acts either.
All human orifices a filled with bacteria especially the mouth!
LAWAGO 1 year ago
so its ok to be a gay preacher as long as ur not hiding it ??
honeybun33 1 year ago
i heard anderson cooper is a homoplexual too
honeybun33 1 year ago
I guess the message here is if you ever enter a church dont drop anything on the floor and under no circumstances bend over to pick it up again!
FLUSEM666 1 year ago
Ted Haggard looks cockeyed!
LadyofWar1980 1 year ago
@LadyofWar1980 If by that you mean he is a willy watcher, then you are correct.
FLUSEM666 1 year ago
how could a preacher tell other people how to live ..lash out against wrong doing and then be doing something like that.. its not like he stole a candy from a baby..he wa doing satan work...and getting paid for it...taking people hard earned money and them balling young homosexual men...while children right there in america are hungry...GOD dont like ugly EDDIE LONG STOKE..
richardjasonryan 1 year ago
"Judgement shall begin first at the house of the Lord"; that is why I left the church.
BogusJesus 1 year ago
When you build a "true" relationship with God. Sometimes you come to realize that your ministers are not who they say they are
FitnessMinded 1 year ago
All things of the flesh are against the worship of God, which "believers" are commanded to do in the spirit. Fornication, deceit, homosexuality, theology, are all things of the flesh and, YES are sin. It's hypocritical and ridiculous when "ministers" try and "theologize" what Christ ministry was all about. Christ came to do his His FATHER will. To glorify HIS FATHER. What is the FATHER will? Is sin of any kind HIS will?
FitnessMinded 1 year ago
I don't see how Haggard got his azz handed to him? In my opinion they both stood their ground.
icecoldsinfonian 1 year ago
Why does Ted Haggard have a permanent clue face on his face?
brucenitro 1 year ago
these gay guys are out for Bishop Eddie's head! jajajajajajaja strange thing is that most of the vocal ones are not the kind of people that most would listen to, yet Eddie long's strong postion has brought them out the wood work
Chaz770 1 year ago
TROY SANDERS NEEDS JESUS
nichvegasplayaz 1 year ago
Oral sodomy? Is that like rimming with tongue penetration? Once again the loudest homophobe turns out to be a closeted homosexual or bisexual committed to destroying the rights and the lives of others through the leverage of the control mechanism called Religion. And he's doing it to cover up for his own desires which he publically condemns. Let this be a lesson, if your pastor or priest spouts off against gay rights leave the church because he's most likely throwing stones from his closet.
fywacia 1 year ago
Ted Haggard is the same b s-er he was when it was found out he had sex with a male - and was kicked out of his church. He is still in that "denial pocketbook" and will never be able to come to terms about the truth of his situation on this planet. I can't stand him.
blanketed 1 year ago
@blanketed I agree and do you know why Ted Haggard is still pushing position of denial? It's because of the money, Ted's lifestyle is based on his ability to sell religion and he's in denial to protect his place in the preaching profession. Money is the real God is this world and Ted sold his soul to it the minute he turned his little church into a multimillion dollar corporate empire. He has learned nothing and is a stain on the fabric of humanity.
fywacia 1 year ago
@biggbadmilt Why would you want to fuck a faggot?
ojibwayjayceon 1 year ago
@biggbadmilt You first!
rayoctober 1 year ago
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23 minutes ago Im just going to say this. If an individual considers themself a Christian or "saved" they cant live out a homosexual lifestyle & still be a true "saints" of God. Also, to address what ppl are calling or try to protray as the Church; all of these leaders arent teaching the unadulted truth. If so,we would all belief & profess the same thing, but we dont. There is only One Lord, One Faith, & One Baptism that is considered right (Eph 4:5).
7777Erwin 1 year ago
"Pastor" T is just as bad as any other hypocritical preacher.
The bible doesn't teach homosexuals can preach. The bible does preach where homos will go, along w/ murderers, adulterers, theifs, liars etc.
This "pastor" T is twisting scriptures big time.
Listen people, Yah is exclusive. You must turn from your sins, forsaking self (bare your own cross) and follow Christ if you want to end up in heaven.
His invitation to be saved is inclusive. You have free will to decide to be included.
mykinfoknew 1 year ago
@mykinfoknew I'm Muslim. what will happen to me?
ojibwayjayceon 1 year ago
@ojibwayjayceon You will end up where all sinners who have not accepted Yahsh'ah Hamash'ah as their Lord and Saviour end up.
If you acknowledge that Yahsh'ah came as God in a mans body (legal way into this world) to bare your sins and break the yoke of death, acknowledge you're a sinner (10 commandments) repent (turn from sin) asking the Lord to forgive you for your sins invite Him to be your Lord and Saviour and live a life pleasing to YAH (read the Bible), You will escape the pits of hell.
mykinfoknew 1 year ago
@mykinfoknew Really? So all Muslims are going to hell? That sux. I happen to know alot of them with good hearts. it is too bad to hear they they will all burn in hell. Ok you have me sold. I'm ready to follow the dead flying zombie jew all the way to heaven.
ojibwayjayceon 1 year ago
@ojibwayjayceon What an intelligent, well thought out and deep response. Seem like someone well rehearsed in historical facts.
FYI, even good hearted people who don't believe in a god at all will end up in hell along w/ evil elitists.
Enjoy your life.
Remember what I told you before it's too late. The greatest gift the Lord gave us is free will. Where you get zombie from beats me.
mykinfoknew 1 year ago
@mykinfoknew Jesus rose again 3 days later. Don't tell me you never seen a zombie movie.In zombie movies that is what the dead do, rise again. Then he flies up to heaven. That is where i get the flying part. I think you should read my profile before you send me to hell there great judge. I never rehearse it takes the fun out of things.
ojibwayjayceon 1 year ago
@ojibwayjayceon
Another fool that doesn't listen.
When did I judge you??
The idea of zombies raising from the dead 3 days later would mean its a copy of the death and resurrection of Yahsh'ah, not the other way round.
He doesn't fly to heaven unlearned one. Read the scriptures properly and you'll find Davinci's a joke of a jackass too.
Tell me what your profile could possibly tell me when your comments already explain the type of thinker you are?
Grow up and recognise the times.
mykinfoknew 1 year ago
@mykinfoknew Any one who rises from the dead is a zombie to me. Another fool that does not expand their mind! If you attach you mind to any ideology you are going to be on a road.That road may or may not lead you in a good direction.When when you star yelling or ranting that other people have to follow your lead or the world is going to end and the Christians are going to be taken away into heaven i know you're full of shit.Scared lonely sad people lock onto that non-sense so they feel they
ojibwayjayceon 1 year ago
are a part of something.That is what it is it preys on people who's lives fuckin suck.It all ducks! it not like you shit is cool and my shits not, like fuckin yoga is the answer or mushrooms are the answer. There are just questions.Until we are honest about that we are never going to evolve.
ojibwayjayceon 1 year ago
@ojibwayjayceon You're an idiot. You came to me asking what you had to do to get to heaven. I didn't rant to NE one. I don't care which god or religion u wanna follow. That's your perogative. You just hope you know the full historical facts around your religions origins to know whether you're faith will get you to "heaven."
I haven't lied about anything.
You say I think my faith is better, better than what?
You say my Saviour is a zombie?
You're a jackass Waste of oxygen.
mykinfoknew 1 year ago
@mykinfoknew waste of oxygen? God doesn't think so.. would you go against god?
ojibwayjayceon 1 year ago
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@ojibwayjayceon Depends on whom you call god?
mykinfoknew 1 year ago
@mykinfoknew "Zombies" whom ever stated that does not have a "full" spiritual led understanding of what "resurrection" is. And this is why Christ spoke in parables because many will not receive the Ruach to be able to understand the true spiritual message and not the fleshly/worldly one
FitnessMinded 1 year ago
@FitnessMinded Couldn't say it better myself.
JAH bless.
mykinfoknew 1 year ago
The Church of Ourselves", we say and do as we feel and we expect to make what God says fit into our ideas and not be obedient to what God says because it is too hard for us to follow-it is too much a burden. Give me a break! The least a person can do is be honest with self.
I want to do what I do because doing me is all that matters right now-
then when its time for God to do what he does then that is that! No body elses business but to do what their relationship with God tells them-the end!
arenels 1 year ago
The problem we have in this society is weak men! people make commments on everythign as if they are some kind of authority but they themselves are soft. You see this is the problem, when your involved in a preverted religion like "Christianity" this stuff happens! Christianity is nothign more than a religion birth out of Roman. There is a spirit linked to christians! It's the biggest false religion on this earth and that is the truth! So personal opinions do not matter you had better repent!
PastorDowell 1 year ago
God builds his temple in the heart on the ruins of churches and religions.
Pilgrim812 1 year ago
@Pilgrim812 U might be the first one who has ever made sense in the history of man.
ojibwayjayceon 1 year ago
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@Pilgrim812 Which one?
There are literally thousands of man made god figures to choose from.
FLUSEM666 1 year ago
First of all. That openly gay pastor bullshit is foolishness. Homosexuality is an abomination. A minister is supposed to be ordained. Don't let mankind convince you that God is okay with ordaining an abomination. That's some more of man's bullshit.
DJFU999 1 year ago
Haggard is so cunty! lol
Orbot 1 year ago
Pastor Sanders' remarks are declarative and confident while Haggard's are cliche and ambiguous.
lloyd614 1 year ago
Christianity=irrational anger
Brahmsfourth 1 year ago
WOW SATAN IS HARD AT WORK....I do not know what to 666 is all that comes to my mind after viewing this.
corthotube 1 year ago
Never heard of pastor Sanders before this, but what courage and conviction!
ouch2112 1 year ago
its so crazy how SO CALLED pastor troy is a pastor.. he is gay openly
BrothaMinister 1 year ago
@BrothaMinister I understand where you are coming from (having grown up in the church for 25 yrs), however, he's right. The same text says that women can't be preachers, and you can't wear poly-blends, and people should be killed for adultery... but we ignore of those. Why is that?
boicharmer 1 year ago
@boicharmer so then your saying its ok to be gay.. and secondly.. i dont see where paul said woman shouldnt be teaching or asurping authority in same context as wearing poly blends. i dont see where in ROMANS 1 where it talks about homosexual going to be turned over to reprobate mind and then say its ok. i dont see in 1 cor 6 where it says DONT BE DECIEVED these (homosexuals) will NOT enter the kingdom of heaven. the penalty of stoning was taking away. BUT WRATH OF GOD WILL COME NEXT. REPENT
BrothaMinister 1 year ago
@BrothaMinister I was specifically speaking of the text in Lev or does that not matter nemor? Also when quotin a script quote all of it. In Rom it was talkin bout a certain lifestyle, it says in v28 "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge," they left God all together. I believe thats what Romans was talking about b/c it goes on to say 29 "Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication..." Basically living a hedonistic lifestyle, which Pastor Troy isn't unlike some St
boicharmer 1 year ago
@BrothaMinister I understand that, we've all been taught this same way of thinking... but I cannot believe that God will send someone to hell that has devoted their life to bringing ppl to Christ. God is a just God and its definitely a possibility that all homosexuals wont make it to heaven but I also think it's a possibility that they will. Esp since Rev 20:12&13 says we will be judge by our works. I dont pretend to know all the answers but I'd rather give people hope then condemn them to hell.
boicharmer 1 year ago
@boicharmer Just check out the two so-called men who Cooper is interviewing. They both are sad and sorry! both have women spirits! And to think you folks are still watching these nasty men. I keep telling you folks "Christianity" is a big LIE! Look at these weak sorry men! The world does not love the so called church! It's ratings they are after.
PastorDowell 1 year ago
@PastorDowell amen.
BrothaMinister 1 year ago
@boicharmer we will be judged by our works of righteousness.. and righteousness is practicing the law.... deut 6:25 and it will be our righteousness if we observe to do all of this law YHWH our father has commanded us.. 1 john 3:7 be not deceived he who practices righteousness is righteous just as He(the messiah) is righteous..
Hezekyah 1 year ago
@boicharmer giving them false hope is worse. you will be judged yourself for not just sticking to the scriptures and allowing the scriptures to do as they are mean to do.. convinct convince and convert. you better stick with scripture and dont go by what you or even i think. all that matters is what the SCRIPTURE SAYS.
BrothaMinister 1 year ago
@BrothaMinister My only problem with that is if we get to the end and we find out all these people that we told are going to hell could have made it to heaven if someone just took the time to give them hope. I know you're response will be "that wont happen" but since neither you or I are God and since we've never been to the end we can't say that 100%. "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
boicharmer 1 year ago
@boicharmer your right none of us are God. BUT HIS WORD SAYS it... see thats the point. we are just messengers.. GOD CANT LIE.. if his word said that effeminate WILL NOT ENTER INTO KINGDOM then they wont. its that simple.. what you dont understand is if YOUR DONT STAND FOR TRUTH and help people remain in DECEPTION your going to be held accountable for not telling the truth and for giving them false hope. yes a homosexual can get SAVED if he or she REPENTS AND RENOUNCES THE LIFTESTYLE..
BrothaMinister 1 year ago
HAGGARD-GAY
realrell36 1 year ago
Well, low IQs do not care about what scientists say.
Those with high IQ do.
bamboostinger 1 year ago
I'm not very sure if they can convert a gay in to a straight. But I'm very sure that they can convert a black in to a white.
Homo Michael Jackson has done so long ago.
bamboostinger 1 year ago
@bamboostinger ROTFL!!!! Wow, that's sad but funny!
Orbot 1 year ago
And the problem today is that you low IQ suckers choose to follow and listen to that homo nigger.
You choose to believe in your very delusional God.
That's the problem today.
bamboostinger 1 year ago
Lo, this is the man that made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness. Psalms 52 : 7
Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
Psalms 73 : 12
falseteaching 1 year ago
prayed onLOL
thinker900 1 year ago
haggard did not get his ass handed to him. I think he made some good points at the end.
magnetic77 1 year ago
I won't say that This guy was one of the most influential ministers in the country. I'm sure that most of the people, when this story broke, didn't even know who this guy was. I know that must people that I've spoken to about this didn't know who the fuck he was.
puppydog88 1 year ago
In The End of times the Bible says many false prophets will be preaching the GOSPEL. Gays should not be preaching in the Church.
vmstudio2001 1 year ago
Haggard and Long are in bed together literally and proverbially! Two snake oil salesmen!
odessyrcr589 1 year ago
Pastor Ted I commend u!!! The gay preacher is tryin to say that if u struggle wit an issue then u shuldnt preach the truth abt it.. Like saying if u have kids and ur a crackhead that u shuldnt tell ur kids its wrong to smoke crack!!! Christ last command was for us to walk in love! We r not doing that by trying to get rich by tearing one another down... God bless u Bishop Long!
meshahart1 1 year ago
The worst thing is not that Haggard and Long are hypocrites but that things they claim are wrong. Religion is not the same thing as morality. Religious is not the same as moral.
strobleicht 1 year ago
this guy, pastor troy, is the one who is the hypocrite, as well as the slanderer of God's word. he calls himself a servant of God but he calls the old testament statutes, principles and moral standards of God "oppressive"? HOW DARE HIM? he's changing the word to fit his own openly homosexual lifestyle. the bible clearly says that a person who adds to or takes from the WORD is cursed. the bible is clear on it's stance against homosexuality. so either you preach the bible as is, or you don't...
revlooshin 1 year ago
2...you don't compromise God's word in order to justify your own vices, nor do you twist it to conform to the world's standards. troy is guilty of this. and to anyone who reads this message, please don't take it as my being homophobic or hating gay people. i am not, and i don't. believers are called to reach out to and to love, and to draw ALL PEOPLE to God. gays included. i hate blatant hypocrisy. i'd say the same thing about a politician who out of one side of his mouth claims to be an....
revlooshin 1 year ago
3...advocate of civil and human rights, but out of the other side of his mouth tries to justify denying or violating people's civil and human rights. how are you going to claim to preach the Gospel of Jesus and call His Father's law 'oppressive'? either you stand 100% or you are a fraud. i don't trust eddie long or any televangelist, but as far as i'm concerned, he's innocent until proven guilty. and if he's guilty, he should pay the price.
revlooshin 1 year ago
@revlooshin SAME GOES FOR HAGGARD AND LONG. Makes no damn difference because they did their dirt in the dark and Pastor Troy is open and honest. Wake up!
odessyrcr589 1 year ago
@odessyrcr589 my argument is not that hidden homosexuality is somehow better than open homosexuality. read my comment again. i'm saying that the bible is clear on it's stance against ALL homosexuality, and if you are going to profess to represent God you HAVE TO represent Him 100%. you can't change His Word to permit your gay lifestyle if His Word prohibits the gay lifestyle. that means pastor troy has the power to veto the God of the universe. NO WAY!!! Troy is openly rebellious against GOD!!
revlooshin 1 year ago
Why isn't Anthony Boyd, Maurice Robinson's partner in crime talking and telling why they decided to steal from the church? B J Bernstein is trying to keep Maurice Robinson out of jail by trying to ruin the reputation of Bishop Long and New Birth in the process. B J Bernstein is a criminal defense attorney and civil law suit attorney and a former prosecutor. An interesting background. She knows how it works and she is doing her best to work the system,but Anthony Boyd is not on board
gmamagee 1 year ago
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Why isn't Anthony Boyd, Maurice Robinson's partner in crime talking and telling why they decided to steal from the church? B J Bernstein is trying to keep Maurice Robinson out of jail by trying to ruin the reputation of Bishop Long and New Birth in the process. B J Bernstein is a criminal defense attorney and civil law suit attorney and a former prosecutor. An interesting background. She knows how it works and she is doing her best to work the system,but Anthony Boyd is not on board it seems
gmamagee 1 year ago
Why isn't Anthony Boyd, Maurice Robinson's partner in crime talking and telling why they decided to steal from the church? B J Bernstein is trying to keep Maurice Robinson out of jail by trying to ruin the reputation of Bishop Long and New Birth in the process. B J Bernstein is a criminal defense attorney and civil law suit attorney and a former prosecutor. An interesting background. She knows how it works and she is doing her best to work the system,but Anthony Boyd is not on board it seems
gmamagee 1 year ago
Check out the hands of the man in the leaked pictures. He has on no rings. If you look at all the images of Bishop Long, you can clearly see that he wears his wedding ring and his New Birth Crescent ring. Also, Bishop Long is shorter and of fuller statute than the man in the picture. Pay attention to details.! Also, when is the court date of Maurice Robinson regarding the buglery charges he faces? The is no date showing when the alleged pictures where texted.
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gmamagee 1 year ago
Pedophile? I think not. These were young men. I think it was Christian guilt aimed at homosexuals that manipulated these youngsters.
auntiesanity 1 year ago
I wish more people would listen to Pastor Sanders.
justaloe 1 year ago
the Bible does not say to enslave people this is a error in Biblical translations
the Bible does not say that women cannot preach this is a misunderstanding of the actual text and to whom this was addressed
the two fabrics woven was a practice to make a garment to worship a false god and it was two specific fabrics woven in a specific way
the pastor troy sanders was in error on that and in his teaching, thinking and preaching. he obviously lacks Biblical understanding. God Bless
pastorlavaughncarter 1 year ago
@pastorlavaughncarter LOL! You obviously haven't read that filth called the bible!
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
preachersaredumb 1 year ago
@preachersaredumb I do not mean any disrespect but you obviously have never seen the scriptures in the original Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek, the translations say slave but the actual Hebrew word that is used is ebed which means servant, doer or tiller and it was if you read all of the chapter illegal for anyone to mistreat their servants and it was also law that after a certain amount of years those which were in servitude were no longer obligated under the contract to which they were paid.
pastorlavaughncarter 1 year ago
@preachersaredumb where have you ever known that if someone kills a slave that person was punished? never however if you harm an employee the law will prosecute. also try and read all the passages and then look at Ex 21.26-27
"If a man hits a manservant or maidservant in the eye and destroys it, he must let the servant go free to compensate for the eye. And if he knocks out the tooth of a manservant or maidservant, he must let the servant go free to compensate for the tooth.
pastorlavaughncarter 1 year ago
Thanks for reuploading videos from my channel under your username. Try making your own videos & not copying mine!
SuchIsLifeVideos 1 year ago
they both sucked.
DefConservative 1 year ago 5
@DefConservative Oh I think they did more than just suck...
PaleBlueDotCitizen 1 year ago 5
@PaleBlueDotCitizen this is very sad but common in the black church.
The real problem is the Black family unit and community needs to fear to except everyone for who they are and teach tolerance and love. That should make a major difference in this kind of behavior. The shame and fear that is in the Black community makes this behavior more likely to happen.
xchanticochulox 1 year ago
@DefConservative i see what u did there....
bdhenderson 1 year ago